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00:00:57,124\n你認為我先講我的看法我當初我主張要強制納管就是因為我提案說在我們實際的一個交通道路狀況上面很多的微型電動二輪車常常發生事故尤其有很多的外籍移工這個\n\n4\n00:00:59,266 --> 00:01:08,311\n來到台灣他們可能的第一部車是所謂的微型電動二輪車那過去常常有發生過事故糾紛那肇事可能是肇逃或者是事後的賠償常常在這個地方上發生爭議那不知道該怎麼處理跟面對所以我認為其中一個解方就是應該要強制納管那來掛牌上路那現在做的我認為是對的因為我下一頁\n\n5\n00:01:30,253 --> 00:01:51,969\n我現在看到的這個報導跟我當初的想像我覺得有一點不太一樣我不知道這個數據當然我們可以再來討論就我台中市我得到的數據台中市自己市區台中市的境內的微型電動二輪車的事故發生率是有降低的\n\n6\n00:01:52,589 --> 00:02:06,784\n但是以我現在看到的公視跟道安總動員裡面的報告裡面全國的微型電動二輪車的事故是往上提升的事故的發生數是年年增\n\n7\n00:02:07,705 --> 00:02:29,510\n那這個我不知道次長或是交通部有沒有掌握那尤其呢在我們現在看到的這個表上國高中生跟高齡者的事故數是提高那尤其國高中生的一個事故數又是比例又更高次長你知道這件事嗎可以請我們黃司長說明一下\n\n8\n00:02:35,354 --> 00:02:57,281\n來市長跟委員報告基本上就如同委員所說的現在就是自從微型電動用車開放以後因為它的使用數量也增加所以事故的那種數量就跟著游行那我可以請問一下嗎在我搜尋到的數據裡面的大安總動員裡面的數據裡面有包含這個新住民或者是外籍移工的事故發生數嗎\n\n9\n00:03:00,146 --> 00:03:26,635\n這個資料基本上是偷偷的加總起來的要的話要細分啦要再去細分要再細分是不是我現在要提這個問題就是當時我們認為應該要建立制度強制納管要掛牌就是希望能夠呢第一個我們知道車流的一個流量第二個我們能夠掌握人車是對比的起來我找到車子我可以找到人\n\n10\n00:03:28,139 --> 00:03:45,183\n第三個我們認為有強制的納保起碼在事故發生的時候能夠給予一定的保障我想這個本來利益良善而且現在也確實在執行不過我再提醒我們在這個法規制度面裡面新購買的你一定要強制納保跟掛牌上路\n\n11\n00:03:52,503 --> 00:04:19,943\n以前在我們法規修法之前已經存在的我們是用鼓勵性質的那次長我們現在在修法之前既存的就有的微型電動二輪車的一個掛牌納保我們現在掌握的數據是多少公共總局說我們是有25萬的這個那全台灣你們掌握數我們的微型電動二輪車大概有幾輛\n\n12\n00:04:24,628 --> 00:04:50,709\n有掛牌跟沒掛牌跟委員報告因為就是說有掛牌的現在就是之前就是使用中的都我們要求就是都要強制都要掛牌這當然知道這所以你好掌握數量去年12月之後的話就是說如果說他沒有掛牌的話其實他這個就是已經是違法那違法的車輛其實因為有些以前微型電動二輪車他使用有一些壽命所以他有一些部分其實是他有可能會報廢\n\n13\n00:04:52,963 --> 00:05:17,995\n我是建議交通部應該要再更細向的去掌握狀況因為剛剛的回答就讓我知道說事實上我們只有掛牌的新購的車輛已經來強制納管的當然你可以精準的掌握數字這也是當初修法要有這個法規制度的一個最重要的目的但是我也必須要再講那沒有\n\n14\n00:05:18,815 --> 00:05:40,384\n在修法之後如期掛牌納保的還有沒有寄存的到底全台灣的微型電動二輪車到底數量有多少這個就是我們有沒有辦法從源頭去掌握整個大數據我為什麼要求源頭掌握第一個你才能夠清楚的知道全台灣到底有多少的\n\n15\n00:05:41,004 --> 00:05:59,179\n在路上的微型電動二輪車第二個你不是只有放任性的有稽查到有事故發生我才可以掌握如果沒有的話你可以去我們中南部的路上去走一走看一看有許許多多的未掛牌的或者是變形的微型電動二輪車在路上走\n\n16\n00:06:01,081 --> 00:06:27,358\n那這些都是在我們現在在討論交通安全不管是行人安全也好或是我們道路設計的路口安全也好那你如果沒有辦法實實在在的掌握在路上到底有哪些交通運具在行駛那你怎麼去修調整我們的道路規範還有說你要講的這個交通安全的整體的一個推動次長你懂我的意思嗎\n\n17\n00:06:28,860 --> 00:06:34,450\n這個在我們中南部我想你去走一趟就會看得到欸整個很多耶\n\n18\n00:06:39,262 --> 00:07:01,016\n我應該特別提到微型電動二輪車納管其實我們有一定的這個當時的一個目標那現在又特別提到說使用中的既有的是怎麼樣在處理我想這一部分麻煩請公務局跟那個地方的縣市政府還有警察單位大家再去討論一下如何去做一些像稽查\n\n19\n00:07:01,656 --> 00:07:04,620\n以前剛開始要納管的時候也對於那些店家啦或者是這個有去宣導過嘛對不對源頭的一些處理或者是工廠啊等等的去做相關的宣導甚至是去做開發我想可能還是需要再一波的我們希望去輔導\n\n20\n00:07:17,515 --> 00:07:25,083\n我希望你去輔導我希望你去源頭能夠掌握那我們希望在路上都是合法的微型電動二輪車那我們針對的這個電動二輪車在道路行駛上的一個安全問題我們很關注那尤其我們14歲以上就可以\n\n21\n00:07:35,633 --> 00:07:55,721\n騎這個微型電動二輪車他14歲以上就我剛剛講的國高中生國高中生呢他的這個事故比例看起來是年年而且比例爬升的很快那所以我為什麼要你精準的去掌握呢是因為我們要對症下藥所以我接下來最後稍微再給我死顏色了我最後就是要告訴你\n\n22\n00:07:57,216 --> 00:08:07,504\n不管是青少年或是高齡那他們的事故主因到底是什麼那我們要有分析因為我知道在你們道安總動員裡面你們有針對細項去做這個事故噪音的統計但是你們既然有統計數字你們就應該要去分析那有分析你才知道找解方嘛那譬如說少年這一部分\n\n23\n00:08:20,914 --> 00:08:36,080\n看起來好像都是對於交通規則或者是標示標線的優先順序或者是怎麼樣好像比較不清楚那我們該怎麼跟教育部或者是跟校園地方政府來合作怎麼來讓青少年能夠安全的行駛微型電動二輪車\n\n24\n00:08:42,503 --> 00:08:57,220\n成年人的部分高齡者有稍微稍微有這個事故比例有稍微增加那我們對高齡者在使用電動的微型電動二輪車的時候我們又應該有什麼樣的解放或是宣導嘛對不對次長\n\n25\n00:09:00,472 --> 00:09:22,304\n像我們會責請陸正道安司也好或者是跟公務局跟各縣市政府針對這種成因然後來研擬相關的一個配套措施是啦好不好我希望你需要多久的時間一個月給我一個月內給我一個月內給一個書面的一個報告給我一個初步的一個延期規劃好不好好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1841\t3847\t好謝謝今天特別謝謝趙偉剛剛休息10分鐘那我們請次長好請陳次長\n13346\t39114\t市長好市長我想我們曾經共同推動這個微型電動二輪車的一個強制納管從法規的修改到制度的建立那甚至呢到這個所謂的過渡期宣導期那在去年12月正式的來上路強制納管那市長這個你認為已經正式納管半年了\n40202\t57124\t你認為我先講我的看法我當初我主張要強制納管就是因為我提案說在我們實際的一個交通道路狀況上面很多的微型電動二輪車常常發生事故尤其有很多的外籍移工這個\n59266\t68311\t來到台灣他們可能的第一部車是所謂的微型電動二輪車那過去常常有發生過事故糾紛那肇事可能是肇逃或者是事後的賠償常常在這個地方上發生爭議那不知道該怎麼處理跟面對所以我認為其中一個解方就是應該要強制納管那來掛牌上路那現在做的我認為是對的因為我下一頁\n90253\t111969\t我現在看到的這個報導跟我當初的想像我覺得有一點不太一樣我不知道這個數據當然我們可以再來討論就我台中市我得到的數據台中市自己市區台中市的境內的微型電動二輪車的事故發生率是有降低的\n112589\t126784\t但是以我現在看到的公視跟道安總動員裡面的報告裡面全國的微型電動二輪車的事故是往上提升的事故的發生數是年年增\n127705\t149510\t那這個我不知道次長或是交通部有沒有掌握那尤其呢在我們現在看到的這個表上國高中生跟高齡者的事故數是提高那尤其國高中生的一個事故數又是比例又更高次長你知道這件事嗎可以請我們黃司長說明一下\n155354\t177281\t來 市長跟委員報告 基本上就如同委員所說的現在就是自從微型電動用車開放以後因為它的使用數量也增加所以事故的那種數量就跟著游行那我可以請問一下嗎 在我搜尋到的數據裡面的大安總動員裡面的數據裡面有包含這個新住民或者是外籍移工的事故發生數嗎\n180146\t206635\t這個資料基本上是偷偷的加總起來的要的話要細分啦 要再去細分要再細分是不是我現在要提這個問題就是當時我們認為應該要建立制度強制納管要掛牌就是希望能夠呢第一個我們知道車流的一個流量第二個我們能夠掌握人車是對比的起來我找到車子我可以找到人\n208139\t225183\t第三個我們認為有強制的納保起碼在事故發生的時候能夠給予一定的保障我想這個本來利益良善而且現在也確實在執行不過我再提醒我們在這個法規制度面裡面新購買的你一定要強制納保跟掛牌上路\n232503\t259943\t以前在我們法規修法之前已經存在的我們是用鼓勵性質的那次長我們現在在修法之前既存的就有的微型電動二輪車的一個掛牌納保我們現在掌握的數據是多少公共總局說我們是有25萬的這個那全台灣你們掌握數我們的微型電動二輪車大概有幾輛\n264628\t290709\t有掛牌跟沒掛牌跟委員報告因為就是說有掛牌的現在就是之前就是使用中的都我們要求就是都要強制都要掛牌這當然知道這所以你好掌握數量去年12月之後的話就是說如果說他沒有掛牌的話其實他這個就是已經是違法那違法的車輛其實因為有些以前微型電動二輪車他使用有一些壽命所以他有一些部分其實是他有可能會報廢\n292963\t317995\t我是建議交通部應該要再更細向的去掌握狀況因為剛剛的回答就讓我知道說事實上我們只有掛牌的新購的車輛已經來強制納管的當然你可以精準的掌握數字這也是當初修法要有這個法規制度的一個最重要的目的但是我也必須要再講那沒有\n318815\t340384\t在修法之後如期掛牌納保的還有沒有寄存的到底全台灣的微型電動二輪車到底數量有多少這個就是我們有沒有辦法從源頭去掌握整個大數據我為什麼要求源頭掌握第一個你才能夠清楚的知道全台灣到底有多少的\n341004\t359179\t在路上的微型電動二輪車第二個你不是只有放任性的有稽查到有事故發生我才可以掌握如果沒有的話你可以去我們中南部的路上去走一走看一看有許許多多的未掛牌的或者是變形的微型電動二輪車在路上走\n361081\t387358\t那這些都是在我們現在在討論交通安全不管是行人安全也好或是我們道路設計的路口安全也好那你如果沒有辦法實實在在的掌握在路上到底有哪些交通運具在行駛那你怎麼去修調整我們的道路規範還有說你要講的這個交通安全的整體的一個推動次長你懂我的意思嗎\n388860\t394450\t這個在我們中南部 我想你去走一趟就會看得到欸整個很多耶\n399262\t421016\t我應該特別提到微型電動二輪車納管其實我們有一定的這個當時的一個目標那現在又特別提到說使用中的既有的是怎麼樣在處理我想這一部分麻煩請公務局跟那個地方的縣市政府還有警察單位大家再去討論一下如何去做一些像稽查\n421656\t424620\t以前剛開始要納管的時候也對於那些店家啦或者是這個有去宣導過嘛對不對源頭的一些處理或者是工廠啊等等的去做相關的宣導甚至是去做開發我想可能還是需要再一波的我們希望去輔導\n437515\t445083\t我希望你去輔導我希望你去源頭能夠掌握那我們希望在路上都是合法的微型電動二輪車那我們針對的這個電動二輪車在道路行駛上的一個安全問題我們很關注那尤其我們14歲以上就可以\n455633\t475721\t騎這個微型電動二輪車他14歲以上就我剛剛講的國高中生國高中生呢他的這個事故比例看起來是年年而且比例爬升的很快那所以我為什麼要你精準的去掌握呢是因為我們要對症下藥所以我接下來最後 稍微再給我死顏色了我最後就是要告訴你\n477216\t487504\t不管是青少年或是高齡那他們的事故主因到底是什麼那我們要有分析因為我知道在你們道安總動員裡面你們有針對細項去做這個事故噪音的統計但是你們既然有統計數字你們就應該要去分析那有分析你才知道找解方嘛那譬如說少年這一部分\n500914\t516080\t看起來好像都是對於交通規則或者是標示標線的優先順序或者是怎麼樣好像比較不清楚那我們該怎麼跟教育部或者是跟校園地方政府來合作怎麼來讓青少年能夠安全的行駛微型電動二輪車\n522503\t537220\t成年人的部分高齡者有稍微稍微有這個事故比例有稍微增加那我們對高齡者在使用電動的微型電動二輪車的時候我們又應該有什麼樣的解放或是宣導嘛對不對 次長\n540472\t562304\t像我們會責請陸正道安司也好或者是跟公務局跟各縣市政府針對這種成因然後來研擬相關的一個配套措施是啦好不好我希望你需要多久的時間一個月給我一個月內給我一個月內給一個書面的一個報告給我一個初步的一個延期規劃好不好好謝謝\n","txt":"好謝謝今天特別謝謝趙偉剛剛休息10分鐘那我們請次長好請陳次長\n市長好市長我想我們曾經共同推動這個微型電動二輪車的一個強制納管從法規的修改到制度的建立那甚至呢到這個所謂的過渡期宣導期那在去年12月正式的來上路強制納管那市長這個你認為已經正式納管半年了\n你認為我先講我的看法我當初我主張要強制納管就是因為我提案說在我們實際的一個交通道路狀況上面很多的微型電動二輪車常常發生事故尤其有很多的外籍移工這個\n來到台灣他們可能的第一部車是所謂的微型電動二輪車那過去常常有發生過事故糾紛那肇事可能是肇逃或者是事後的賠償常常在這個地方上發生爭議那不知道該怎麼處理跟面對所以我認為其中一個解方就是應該要強制納管那來掛牌上路那現在做的我認為是對的因為我下一頁\n我現在看到的這個報導跟我當初的想像我覺得有一點不太一樣我不知道這個數據當然我們可以再來討論就我台中市我得到的數據台中市自己市區台中市的境內的微型電動二輪車的事故發生率是有降低的\n但是以我現在看到的公視跟道安總動員裡面的報告裡面全國的微型電動二輪車的事故是往上提升的事故的發生數是年年增\n那這個我不知道次長或是交通部有沒有掌握那尤其呢在我們現在看到的這個表上國高中生跟高齡者的事故數是提高那尤其國高中生的一個事故數又是比例又更高次長你知道這件事嗎可以請我們黃司長說明一下\n來 市長跟委員報告 基本上就如同委員所說的現在就是自從微型電動用車開放以後因為它的使用數量也增加所以事故的那種數量就跟著游行那我可以請問一下嗎 在我搜尋到的數據裡面的大安總動員裡面的數據裡面有包含這個新住民或者是外籍移工的事故發生數嗎\n這個資料基本上是偷偷的加總起來的要的話要細分啦 要再去細分要再細分是不是我現在要提這個問題就是當時我們認為應該要建立制度強制納管要掛牌就是希望能夠呢第一個我們知道車流的一個流量第二個我們能夠掌握人車是對比的起來我找到車子我可以找到人\n第三個我們認為有強制的納保起碼在事故發生的時候能夠給予一定的保障我想這個本來利益良善而且現在也確實在執行不過我再提醒我們在這個法規制度面裡面新購買的你一定要強制納保跟掛牌上路\n以前在我們法規修法之前已經存在的我們是用鼓勵性質的那次長我們現在在修法之前既存的就有的微型電動二輪車的一個掛牌納保我們現在掌握的數據是多少公共總局說我們是有25萬的這個那全台灣你們掌握數我們的微型電動二輪車大概有幾輛\n有掛牌跟沒掛牌跟委員報告因為就是說有掛牌的現在就是之前就是使用中的都我們要求就是都要強制都要掛牌這當然知道這所以你好掌握數量去年12月之後的話就是說如果說他沒有掛牌的話其實他這個就是已經是違法那違法的車輛其實因為有些以前微型電動二輪車他使用有一些壽命所以他有一些部分其實是他有可能會報廢\n我是建議交通部應該要再更細向的去掌握狀況因為剛剛的回答就讓我知道說事實上我們只有掛牌的新購的車輛已經來強制納管的當然你可以精準的掌握數字這也是當初修法要有這個法規制度的一個最重要的目的但是我也必須要再講那沒有\n在修法之後如期掛牌納保的還有沒有寄存的到底全台灣的微型電動二輪車到底數量有多少這個就是我們有沒有辦法從源頭去掌握整個大數據我為什麼要求源頭掌握第一個你才能夠清楚的知道全台灣到底有多少的\n在路上的微型電動二輪車第二個你不是只有放任性的有稽查到有事故發生我才可以掌握如果沒有的話你可以去我們中南部的路上去走一走看一看有許許多多的未掛牌的或者是變形的微型電動二輪車在路上走\n那這些都是在我們現在在討論交通安全不管是行人安全也好或是我們道路設計的路口安全也好那你如果沒有辦法實實在在的掌握在路上到底有哪些交通運具在行駛那你怎麼去修調整我們的道路規範還有說你要講的這個交通安全的整體的一個推動次長你懂我的意思嗎\n這個在我們中南部 我想你去走一趟就會看得到欸整個很多耶\n我應該特別提到微型電動二輪車納管其實我們有一定的這個當時的一個目標那現在又特別提到說使用中的既有的是怎麼樣在處理我想這一部分麻煩請公務局跟那個地方的縣市政府還有警察單位大家再去討論一下如何去做一些像稽查\n以前剛開始要納管的時候也對於那些店家啦或者是這個有去宣導過嘛對不對源頭的一些處理或者是工廠啊等等的去做相關的宣導甚至是去做開發我想可能還是需要再一波的我們希望去輔導\n我希望你去輔導我希望你去源頭能夠掌握那我們希望在路上都是合法的微型電動二輪車那我們針對的這個電動二輪車在道路行駛上的一個安全問題我們很關注那尤其我們14歲以上就可以\n騎這個微型電動二輪車他14歲以上就我剛剛講的國高中生國高中生呢他的這個事故比例看起來是年年而且比例爬升的很快那所以我為什麼要你精準的去掌握呢是因為我們要對症下藥所以我接下來最後 稍微再給我死顏色了我最後就是要告訴你\n不管是青少年或是高齡那他們的事故主因到底是什麼那我們要有分析因為我知道在你們道安總動員裡面你們有針對細項去做這個事故噪音的統計但是你們既然有統計數字你們就應該要去分析那有分析你才知道找解方嘛那譬如說少年這一部分\n看起來好像都是對於交通規則或者是標示標線的優先順序或者是怎麼樣好像比較不清楚那我們該怎麼跟教育部或者是跟校園地方政府來合作怎麼來讓青少年能夠安全的行駛微型電動二輪車\n成年人的部分高齡者有稍微稍微有這個事故比例有稍微增加那我們對高齡者在使用電動的微型電動二輪車的時候我們又應該有什麼樣的解放或是宣導嘛對不對 次長\n像我們會責請陸正道安司也好或者是跟公務局跟各縣市政府針對這種成因然後來研擬相關的一個配套措施是啦好不好我希望你需要多久的時間一個月給我一個月內給我一個月內給一個書面的一個報告給我一個初步的一個延期規劃好不好好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.841 --> 00:03.847\n好謝謝今天特別謝謝趙偉剛剛休息10分鐘那我們請次長好請陳次長\n\n00:13.346 --> 00:39.114\n市長好市長我想我們曾經共同推動這個微型電動二輪車的一個強制納管從法規的修改到制度的建立那甚至呢到這個所謂的過渡期宣導期那在去年12月正式的來上路強制納管那市長這個你認為已經正式納管半年了\n\n00:40.202 --> 00:57.124\n你認為我先講我的看法我當初我主張要強制納管就是因為我提案說在我們實際的一個交通道路狀況上面很多的微型電動二輪車常常發生事故尤其有很多的外籍移工這個\n\n00:59.266 --> 01:08.311\n來到台灣他們可能的第一部車是所謂的微型電動二輪車那過去常常有發生過事故糾紛那肇事可能是肇逃或者是事後的賠償常常在這個地方上發生爭議那不知道該怎麼處理跟面對所以我認為其中一個解方就是應該要強制納管那來掛牌上路那現在做的我認為是對的因為我下一頁\n\n01:30.253 --> 01:51.969\n我現在看到的這個報導跟我當初的想像我覺得有一點不太一樣我不知道這個數據當然我們可以再來討論就我台中市我得到的數據台中市自己市區台中市的境內的微型電動二輪車的事故發生率是有降低的\n\n01:52.589 --> 02:06.784\n但是以我現在看到的公視跟道安總動員裡面的報告裡面全國的微型電動二輪車的事故是往上提升的事故的發生數是年年增\n\n02:07.705 --> 02:29.510\n那這個我不知道次長或是交通部有沒有掌握那尤其呢在我們現在看到的這個表上國高中生跟高齡者的事故數是提高那尤其國高中生的一個事故數又是比例又更高次長你知道這件事嗎可以請我們黃司長說明一下\n\n02:35.354 --> 02:57.281\n來市長跟委員報告基本上就如同委員所說的現在就是自從微型電動用車開放以後因為它的使用數量也增加所以事故的那種數量就跟著游行那我可以請問一下嗎在我搜尋到的數據裡面的大安總動員裡面的數據裡面有包含這個新住民或者是外籍移工的事故發生數嗎\n\n03:00.146 --> 03:26.635\n這個資料基本上是偷偷的加總起來的要的話要細分啦要再去細分要再細分是不是我現在要提這個問題就是當時我們認為應該要建立制度強制納管要掛牌就是希望能夠呢第一個我們知道車流的一個流量第二個我們能夠掌握人車是對比的起來我找到車子我可以找到人\n\n03:28.139 --> 03:45.183\n第三個我們認為有強制的納保起碼在事故發生的時候能夠給予一定的保障我想這個本來利益良善而且現在也確實在執行不過我再提醒我們在這個法規制度面裡面新購買的你一定要強制納保跟掛牌上路\n\n03:52.503 --> 04:19.943\n以前在我們法規修法之前已經存在的我們是用鼓勵性質的那次長我們現在在修法之前既存的就有的微型電動二輪車的一個掛牌納保我們現在掌握的數據是多少公共總局說我們是有25萬的這個那全台灣你們掌握數我們的微型電動二輪車大概有幾輛\n\n04:24.628 --> 04:50.709\n有掛牌跟沒掛牌跟委員報告因為就是說有掛牌的現在就是之前就是使用中的都我們要求就是都要強制都要掛牌這當然知道這所以你好掌握數量去年12月之後的話就是說如果說他沒有掛牌的話其實他這個就是已經是違法那違法的車輛其實因為有些以前微型電動二輪車他使用有一些壽命所以他有一些部分其實是他有可能會報廢\n\n04:52.963 --> 05:17.995\n我是建議交通部應該要再更細向的去掌握狀況因為剛剛的回答就讓我知道說事實上我們只有掛牌的新購的車輛已經來強制納管的當然你可以精準的掌握數字這也是當初修法要有這個法規制度的一個最重要的目的但是我也必須要再講那沒有\n\n05:18.815 --> 05:40.384\n在修法之後如期掛牌納保的還有沒有寄存的到底全台灣的微型電動二輪車到底數量有多少這個就是我們有沒有辦法從源頭去掌握整個大數據我為什麼要求源頭掌握第一個你才能夠清楚的知道全台灣到底有多少的\n\n05:41.004 --> 05:59.179\n在路上的微型電動二輪車第二個你不是只有放任性的有稽查到有事故發生我才可以掌握如果沒有的話你可以去我們中南部的路上去走一走看一看有許許多多的未掛牌的或者是變形的微型電動二輪車在路上走\n\n06:01.081 --> 06:27.358\n那這些都是在我們現在在討論交通安全不管是行人安全也好或是我們道路設計的路口安全也好那你如果沒有辦法實實在在的掌握在路上到底有哪些交通運具在行駛那你怎麼去修調整我們的道路規範還有說你要講的這個交通安全的整體的一個推動次長你懂我的意思嗎\n\n06:28.860 --> 06:34.450\n這個在我們中南部我想你去走一趟就會看得到欸整個很多耶\n\n06:39.262 --> 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人、二十\n六、台灣民眾黨黨團分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條條文修正草案」、二十七、委\n員黃健豪等19人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條、第三十五條之二及第六十七條條文修\n正草案」、二十八、委員顏寬恒等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十四條及第四十五條條\n文修正草案」、二十九、委員林俊憲等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十五條條文修正草\n案」、三十、委員牛煦庭等18人、三十一、委員魯明哲等16人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例\n第五十六條條文修正草案」、三十二、台灣民眾黨黨團 (11-1-13) 、三十三、台灣民眾黨黨團\n(11-1-21)分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第六十七條條文修正草案」、三十四、委員羅智強\n等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十二條條文修正草案」、三十五、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具\n「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十八條及第八十四條條文修正草案」、三十六、委員魯明哲等16人\n擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第八十條條文修正草案」、三十七、委員林俊憲等20人、三十八、\n委員廖先翔等19人、三十九、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具分別「道路交通管理處罰條例第九十二條條文\n修正草案」及四十、委員林思銘等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例增訂第九十二條之二條文草\n案」案【本日會議僅進行詢答】","agenda_id":"1145802_00004"}}}