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00:03:12,143\n就否決委員的提案因為我從早上聽到現在我不希望如此而是希望把這些寶貴的意見來綜合我們所有的條件以因應我們因為氣候變遷極端災害所受損農民的痛苦跟他的收入請做說明\n\n10\n00:03:25,255 --> 00:03:52,827\n我跟委員報告第一個就是我絕對沒有否定所有委員的版本這第一個要說明的第二個就是說委員的版本裡面那你就要支持啊沒有沒有對不對因為委員的版本裡面第六年百分之六十把它拿掉以後那就有它的不確定性啦不一定是提高喔也可以是零喔因為沒有寫嘛一到五年有寫那原來的六年以後最上限是六十\n\n11\n00:03:53,587 --> 00:04:03,031\n所以要因應實際需求啊所以不受限在60啊你也可以繼續75啊甚至因應特別情況你也可以80啊所以剛剛本期特別說了是因應你的類別跟因應氣候變遷跟極端災害的頻率嘛所以重點是在第二項裡面要求農業部一定要定期的檢討我覺得那個才是重點然後第二個就是說\n\n12\n00:04:22,078 --> 00:04:40,912\n那個我們現在就算一到前面五年是75上限因為法律規定是上限嘛那以農業部來講以農業部來講我們實際在過去五年大概是用二分之一為標準也沒有到上限那我們鼓勵跟地方政府合作那地方政府出太多的\n\n13\n00:04:41,172 --> 00:05:05,279\n這是因為只有二分之一所以你的誘因也沒有那麼多剛開始大家怕怕的所以也沒有宣討的那麼好那現在逐步有一點成績所以這個議題這樣子我希望你們去好好檢討我們整個農業保險制度要怎麼樣去提升頭髮的意願真正能夠保護我們的農民跟他的經濟收益我相信這個共識點\n\n14\n00:05:07,419 --> 00:05:36,451\n部長應該同意吧我跟委員報告就是台中市的部分農業部補二分之一台中市政府補四成所以農民只出一成然後用這種方式也不會違背現在的法律規定現在法律規定只是這是因為我們盧市長他對於農業當非常的關心啊可是你不一定每件事都是如此啊今天是你是農業部是中央啊不能拿一個來比喻啊你比喻其他你比不了啊我告訴你好\n\n15\n00:05:37,091 --> 00:05:41,394\n所以我跟你說這最重要你好好去檢討我們的農業保險制度要怎麼提升這個投保的意願要怎麼可以確保我們農民的權利跟有經濟收入以因應我還是回歸最源頭氣候變遷跟極端的災害頻率好不好你去研議好那第二個本校要請教視網\n\n16\n00:06:02,262 --> 00:06:30,561\n赤網的部分最近媒體一直在披露宜蘭南方澳的豆腐甲海域它是整個它是這個三港區但是有一些潛水的教練他們在那裡發覺到了這個問題民眾幫我們發覺政府就要有責任去管控赤網本來就是在2021年的時候我們就已經說了喔赤網實名制對不對部長\n\n17\n00:06:32,813 --> 00:06:58,063\n2021年我們就說赤網要實名制你這個網路面前要有一個準確的編號所以萬一發生你才有線索去瞭解這是誰做的啊對不對那現在這個區塊都是什麼珊瑚耶這珊瑚這麼寶貴耶你這樣去抓尤其現在又是龍蝦的旺季\n\n18\n00:06:59,346 --> 00:07:13,960\n對不對那可以嗎那我們政府要怎麼應對請教這種行為是絕對不允許的絕對不允許我們也加強了這個實名制的查核但是很可惜很遺憾的就是說現在目前\n\n19\n00:07:15,222 --> 00:07:26,349\n包覆在那個珊瑚礁上面的那個赤網齁他並沒有辦法查到他的實名制可能是更早之前的啊所以你的方法不對嘛你既然你明知道有這個問題政府沒有辦法去應對這不是應付應付就可以了這次你要好好去應對你要有方法你查不到那是誰可是誰怎麼放下去你要去找方法啊\n\n20\n00:07:40,478 --> 00:08:05,367\n因為你不能破壞整個珊瑚礁這個是我們聽了心都會痛怎麼辦所以我才會說因為雖然說現在沒辦法查到那個已經覆蓋在珊瑚礁的刺網但是後續我們會針對這邊區域跟地方政府還有跟海巡要去強化就是說任何一個刺網你只要出去的話我先檢查你有沒有實名制再說\n\n21\n00:08:06,187 --> 00:08:24,357\n管控對不對從源頭管控而去落實行動才能夠保住對不對而且這個次網是出去也要回來喔你不能出去以後回來就不見了所以部長你知道嗎你們比如說去年你的次網你查獲得有幾件啊\n\n22\n00:08:25,748 --> 00:08:44,440\n你查會有幾件你前年查會的有幾件去年我們總共查了23件那處分的有13件前年幾件前年是17件處分是11件部長你聽了會不會心痛你有方法要寫越來越多要不要改變方法\n\n23\n00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:56,711\n對不對前年跟去年增加那你要不要改變方法這個是我們行政部門的責任對不對尤其他又是珊瑚區又是香港區不容許\n\n24\n00:08:58,018 --> 00:09:24,157\n要注意現在是農家的旺季生產旺季可以抓的旺季要趕快去圍堵好啦要有應對方法好不好最後一個議題你把方案給本席齁最後一個議題齁糧食產業全面升級方案就是你在6月10號你們所推動我也給予鼓勵也就是要讓我們地區農會大家都能夠有契作的制度欸對不起這個這個\n\n25\n00:09:27,339 --> 00:09:53,788\n都能夠要有契作的這個制度你強化整個統一栽培管理安全用藥產銷履歷的驗證跟水稻收入的保險機制這個非常重要來提升我們整個稻米的品質跟穩定農民的收益這也是我們一直一直一直在努力的所以在這邊本期要請教因為我們台灣米有夠讚世界讚我們觀光我們的這個品種\n\n26\n00:09:55,829 --> 00:10:19,084\n還有栽培技術跟實惠優勢會加了QQQ哇這個是又香這太棒了所以我們外銷的潛力會很多怎麼樣能夠有管道可以讓我們的農民水稻的農民他們的收益能夠更好到目前為止你1月份到5月份呢我可以統計你外銷日本是大概突破7700公噸那是因為\n\n27\n00:10:21,906 --> 00:10:40,374\n那是因為比去年同期增加6倍那是因為日本的米在欠所以米荒所以我們這個時機做對了所以請教部長既然有這樣子的一個方案那我們針對於稻米在外銷的部分你是不是有針對日本不要因為人家米荒\n\n28\n00:10:41,374 --> 00:10:43,677\n我非常認同委員所說的也是我們在做的\n\n29\n00:11:00,768 --> 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漁產跟農作物的覆蓋率甚至是達到2.13跟2.8那都基於3當然在去年度113年我們不斷的在調整方案113年度那是有增加的但是我們仍舊認為在這樣的風險高風險的因子當中我認為我們還有很大的一個成長空間\n90067\t93930\t那所以今天我們的召委我們也跟著一起來提案也就是怎麼樣在思緒怎麼樣能夠讓我們的農民更加的得到保障又更加的誘因讓他們可以來參加保險有很多的高經濟的產值的我們的農業比如說我們的這個來養哇 這個產值非常的高但是現在高風險它\n118827\t144085\t不掉果 不會掉果啦就掉了 有時候就掉在我們的這個這個 紙包裡頭結果它裡面是因風搖曳而斷掉它到最後沒有辦法得到養分所以到最後 到最後也是沒效的這個果實就壞掉了那所以看到這麼大一顆 可是它竟然是沒有辦法\n146065\t156149\t來採收農民的損失非常的大所以我們也提出了也就是我們的農業保險的這個部分在前五年上限75%的協助第六年60%那因應這個整個策略性以及老天爺給我們的一個挑戰\n164071\t167836\t以前沒有想過的現在都會發生在這樣的情況之下我們非常的希望能夠把誘因能夠把條件更加的放寬因時因類別而定制所以我希望的也就是行政部門不要一下子\n182774\t192143\t就否決委員的提案因為我從早上聽到現在我不希望如此而是希望把這些寶貴的意見來綜合我們所有的條件以因應我們因為氣候變遷極端災害所受損農民的痛苦跟他的收入 請做說明\n205255\t232827\t我跟委員報告第一個就是我絕對沒有否定所有委員的版本這第一個要說明的第二個就是說委員的版本裡面那你就要支持啊沒有沒有對不對因為委員的版本裡面第六年百分之六十把它拿掉以後那就有它的不確定性啦不一定是提高喔也可以是零喔因為沒有寫嘛一到五年有寫那原來的六年以後最上限是六十\n233587\t243031\t所以要因應實際需求啊所以不受限在60啊你也可以繼續75啊甚至因應特別情況你也可以80啊所以剛剛本期特別說了是因應你的類別跟因應氣候變遷跟極端災害的頻率嘛所以重點是在第二項裡面要求農業部一定要定期的檢討我覺得那個才是重點然後第二個就是說\n262078\t280912\t那個我們現在就算一到前面五年是75上限因為法律規定是上限嘛那以農業部來講以農業部來講我們實際在過去五年大概是用二分之一為標準也沒有到上限那我們鼓勵跟地方政府合作那地方政府出太多的\n281172\t305279\t這是因為只有二分之一所以你的誘因也沒有那麼多剛開始大家怕怕的所以也沒有宣討的那麼好那現在逐步有一點成績所以這個議題這樣子我希望你們去好好檢討我們整個農業保險制度要怎麼樣去提升頭髮的意願真正能夠保護我們的農民跟他的經濟收益我相信這個共識點\n307419\t336451\t部長應該同意吧我跟委員報告就是台中市的部分農業部補二分之一台中市政府補四成所以農民只出一成然後用這種方式也不會違背現在的法律規定現在法律規定只是這是因為我們盧市長他對於農業當非常的關心啊可是你不一定每件事都是如此啊今天是你是農業部是中央啊不能拿一個來比喻啊你比喻其他你比不了啊我告訴你好\n337091\t341394\t所以我跟你說 這最重要 你好好去檢討我們的農業保險制度 要怎麼提升這個投保的意願要怎麼可以確保 我們農民的權利跟有經濟收入以因應 我還是回歸最源頭氣候變遷跟極端的災害頻率 好不好 你去研議好 那第二個 本校要請教 視網\n362262\t390561\t赤網的部分最近媒體一直在披露宜蘭南方澳的豆腐甲海域它是整個 它是這個三港區但是有一些潛水的教練他們在那裡發覺到了這個問題民眾幫我們發覺政府就要有責任去管控赤網本來就是在2021年的時候我們就已經說了喔赤網實名制 對不對 部長\n392813\t418063\t2021年我們就說赤網要實名制你這個網路面前要有一個準確的編號所以萬一發生你才有線索去瞭解這是誰做的啊對不對那現在這個區塊都是什麼 珊瑚耶這珊瑚這麼寶貴耶你這樣去抓 尤其現在又是龍蝦的旺季\n419346\t433960\t對不對 那可以嗎那我們政府要怎麼應對 請教這種行為是絕對不允許的絕對不允許我們也加強了這個實名制的查核但是很可惜很遺憾的就是說現在目前\n435222\t446349\t包覆在那個珊瑚礁上面的那個赤網齁他並沒有辦法查到他的實名制可能是更早之前的啊所以你的方法不對嘛你既然你明知道有這個問題政府沒有辦法去應對這不是應付應付就可以了這次你要好好去應對你要有方法你查不到那是誰可是誰怎麼放下去你要去找方法啊\n460478\t485367\t因為你不能破壞整個珊瑚礁這個是我們聽了心都會痛怎麼辦所以我才會說因為雖然說現在沒辦法查到那個已經覆蓋在珊瑚礁的刺網但是後續我們會針對這邊區域跟地方政府還有跟海巡要去強化就是說任何一個刺網你只要出去的話我先檢查你有沒有實名制再說\n486187\t504357\t管控對不對從源頭管控而去落實行動才能夠保住對不對而且這個次網是出去也要回來喔你不能出去以後回來就不見了所以部長你知道嗎你們比如說去年你的次網你查獲得有幾件啊\n505748\t524440\t你查會有幾件你前年查會的有幾件去年我們總共查了23件那處分的有13件前年幾件前年是17件 處分是11件部長你聽了會不會心痛你有方法要寫越來越多要不要改變方法\n525200\t536711\t對不對前年跟去年增加那你要不要改變方法這個是我們行政部門的責任對不對尤其他又是珊瑚區又是香港區不容許\n538018\t564157\t要注意現在是農家的旺季生產旺季可以抓的旺季要趕快去圍堵好啦要有應對方法好不好最後一個議題你把方案給本席齁最後一個議題齁糧食產業全面升級方案就是你在6月10號你們所推動我也給予鼓勵也就是要讓我們地區農會大家都能夠有契作的制度欸對不起這個這個\n567339\t593788\t都能夠要有契作的這個制度你強化整個統一栽培管理安全用藥產銷履歷的驗證跟水稻收入的保險機制這個非常重要來提升我們整個稻米的品質跟穩定農民的收益這也是我們一直一直一直在努力的所以在這邊本期要請教因為我們台灣米有夠讚世界讚我們觀光我們的這個品種\n595829\t619084\t還有栽培技術跟實惠優勢會加了QQQ 哇 這個是又香這太棒了所以我們外銷的潛力會很多怎麼樣能夠有管道可以讓我們的農民 水稻的農民他們的收益能夠更好到目前為止 你1月份到5月份呢 我可以統計你外銷日本是大概突破7700公噸那是因為\n621906\t640374\t那是因為比去年同期增加6倍那是因為日本的米在欠所以米荒所以我們這個時機做對了所以請教部長既然有這樣子的一個方案那我們針對於稻米在外銷的部分你是不是有針對日本不要因為人家米荒\n641374\t643677\t我非常認同委員所說的也是我們在做的\n660768\t685615\t我們不能因為日本缺米然後我們短時間之內供給比較多的米就引以為傲其實我們要消耗日本的米是一個優質的而且是要長期的供應的部分兩個重點第一個重點就是現在各縣市有很多各縣市優質的米那我們會協助它有一個品牌因為我覺得打造日本要用品牌去打第二個就是通路的鏈接啦\n686195\t710274\t那通路鏈結我們現在也跟很多日本的大商社邀請他們來台灣然後去參訪我們的稻米的產地然後希望說他們能夠用一個比較長期的訂單來支持這個部分才是我們要的對 這個也是政府的責任品牌 通路 穩定 採購 制度非常的重要因為我們台灣米是非常的\n711695\t738604\t這個棒喔 那我也希望近期可以聽到好的消息 方向是對了因為我們國內米要差不多30多塊那你外銷一定會比較好而且幫我們也等於做一個外交也協助我們的農民這是非常好的一個方向一定要加油有了好的成績請告訴大家可以開一個記者會告訴我們的通路是怎麼樣我們的米是怎麼樣好好的去宣傳 好不好幫助我們的農民 謝謝\n741865\t741886\t好\n","txt":"謝謝主席 楊潔瑜發言 邀請我們部長陳部長\n部長好我想面對於整個氣候變遷跟極端災害的頻率上升那麼我們努力的也就是農業保險條例這個對我們農民來講是非常的重要因為剛剛所說的這兩項因素\n對於整個農業經營的風險是日益的在升高那所以我們的農業保險制度呢應該是要保障我們農民的所得穩定農業經濟的一個重要的一個政策工具但是我們看到目前為止似乎在整個執行的情形不如我們預期那又因為這樣的因素所以我也統計到112年底我們自願性投保的農民僅佔了6.1%\n17%漁業 漁產跟農作物的覆蓋率甚至是達到2.13跟2.8那都基於3當然在去年度113年我們不斷的在調整方案113年度那是有增加的但是我們仍舊認為在這樣的風險高風險的因子當中我認為我們還有很大的一個成長空間\n那所以今天我們的召委我們也跟著一起來提案也就是怎麼樣在思緒怎麼樣能夠讓我們的農民更加的得到保障又更加的誘因讓他們可以來參加保險有很多的高經濟的產值的我們的農業比如說我們的這個來養哇 這個產值非常的高但是現在高風險它\n不掉果 不會掉果啦就掉了 有時候就掉在我們的這個這個 紙包裡頭結果它裡面是因風搖曳而斷掉它到最後沒有辦法得到養分所以到最後 到最後也是沒效的這個果實就壞掉了那所以看到這麼大一顆 可是它竟然是沒有辦法\n來採收農民的損失非常的大所以我們也提出了也就是我們的農業保險的這個部分在前五年上限75%的協助第六年60%那因應這個整個策略性以及老天爺給我們的一個挑戰\n以前沒有想過的現在都會發生在這樣的情況之下我們非常的希望能夠把誘因能夠把條件更加的放寬因時因類別而定制所以我希望的也就是行政部門不要一下子\n就否決委員的提案因為我從早上聽到現在我不希望如此而是希望把這些寶貴的意見來綜合我們所有的條件以因應我們因為氣候變遷極端災害所受損農民的痛苦跟他的收入 請做說明\n我跟委員報告第一個就是我絕對沒有否定所有委員的版本這第一個要說明的第二個就是說委員的版本裡面那你就要支持啊沒有沒有對不對因為委員的版本裡面第六年百分之六十把它拿掉以後那就有它的不確定性啦不一定是提高喔也可以是零喔因為沒有寫嘛一到五年有寫那原來的六年以後最上限是六十\n所以要因應實際需求啊所以不受限在60啊你也可以繼續75啊甚至因應特別情況你也可以80啊所以剛剛本期特別說了是因應你的類別跟因應氣候變遷跟極端災害的頻率嘛所以重點是在第二項裡面要求農業部一定要定期的檢討我覺得那個才是重點然後第二個就是說\n那個我們現在就算一到前面五年是75上限因為法律規定是上限嘛那以農業部來講以農業部來講我們實際在過去五年大概是用二分之一為標準也沒有到上限那我們鼓勵跟地方政府合作那地方政府出太多的\n這是因為只有二分之一所以你的誘因也沒有那麼多剛開始大家怕怕的所以也沒有宣討的那麼好那現在逐步有一點成績所以這個議題這樣子我希望你們去好好檢討我們整個農業保險制度要怎麼樣去提升頭髮的意願真正能夠保護我們的農民跟他的經濟收益我相信這個共識點\n部長應該同意吧我跟委員報告就是台中市的部分農業部補二分之一台中市政府補四成所以農民只出一成然後用這種方式也不會違背現在的法律規定現在法律規定只是這是因為我們盧市長他對於農業當非常的關心啊可是你不一定每件事都是如此啊今天是你是農業部是中央啊不能拿一個來比喻啊你比喻其他你比不了啊我告訴你好\n所以我跟你說 這最重要 你好好去檢討我們的農業保險制度 要怎麼提升這個投保的意願要怎麼可以確保 我們農民的權利跟有經濟收入以因應 我還是回歸最源頭氣候變遷跟極端的災害頻率 好不好 你去研議好 那第二個 本校要請教 視網\n赤網的部分最近媒體一直在披露宜蘭南方澳的豆腐甲海域它是整個 它是這個三港區但是有一些潛水的教練他們在那裡發覺到了這個問題民眾幫我們發覺政府就要有責任去管控赤網本來就是在2021年的時候我們就已經說了喔赤網實名制 對不對 部長\n2021年我們就說赤網要實名制你這個網路面前要有一個準確的編號所以萬一發生你才有線索去瞭解這是誰做的啊對不對那現在這個區塊都是什麼 珊瑚耶這珊瑚這麼寶貴耶你這樣去抓 尤其現在又是龍蝦的旺季\n對不對 那可以嗎那我們政府要怎麼應對 請教這種行為是絕對不允許的絕對不允許我們也加強了這個實名制的查核但是很可惜很遺憾的就是說現在目前\n包覆在那個珊瑚礁上面的那個赤網齁他並沒有辦法查到他的實名制可能是更早之前的啊所以你的方法不對嘛你既然你明知道有這個問題政府沒有辦法去應對這不是應付應付就可以了這次你要好好去應對你要有方法你查不到那是誰可是誰怎麼放下去你要去找方法啊\n因為你不能破壞整個珊瑚礁這個是我們聽了心都會痛怎麼辦所以我才會說因為雖然說現在沒辦法查到那個已經覆蓋在珊瑚礁的刺網但是後續我們會針對這邊區域跟地方政府還有跟海巡要去強化就是說任何一個刺網你只要出去的話我先檢查你有沒有實名制再說\n管控對不對從源頭管控而去落實行動才能夠保住對不對而且這個次網是出去也要回來喔你不能出去以後回來就不見了所以部長你知道嗎你們比如說去年你的次網你查獲得有幾件啊\n你查會有幾件你前年查會的有幾件去年我們總共查了23件那處分的有13件前年幾件前年是17件 處分是11件部長你聽了會不會心痛你有方法要寫越來越多要不要改變方法\n對不對前年跟去年增加那你要不要改變方法這個是我們行政部門的責任對不對尤其他又是珊瑚區又是香港區不容許\n要注意現在是農家的旺季生產旺季可以抓的旺季要趕快去圍堵好啦要有應對方法好不好最後一個議題你把方案給本席齁最後一個議題齁糧食產業全面升級方案就是你在6月10號你們所推動我也給予鼓勵也就是要讓我們地區農會大家都能夠有契作的制度欸對不起這個這個\n都能夠要有契作的這個制度你強化整個統一栽培管理安全用藥產銷履歷的驗證跟水稻收入的保險機制這個非常重要來提升我們整個稻米的品質跟穩定農民的收益這也是我們一直一直一直在努力的所以在這邊本期要請教因為我們台灣米有夠讚世界讚我們觀光我們的這個品種\n還有栽培技術跟實惠優勢會加了QQQ 哇 這個是又香這太棒了所以我們外銷的潛力會很多怎麼樣能夠有管道可以讓我們的農民 水稻的農民他們的收益能夠更好到目前為止 你1月份到5月份呢 我可以統計你外銷日本是大概突破7700公噸那是因為\n那是因為比去年同期增加6倍那是因為日本的米在欠所以米荒所以我們這個時機做對了所以請教部長既然有這樣子的一個方案那我們針對於稻米在外銷的部分你是不是有針對日本不要因為人家米荒\n我非常認同委員所說的也是我們在做的\n我們不能因為日本缺米然後我們短時間之內供給比較多的米就引以為傲其實我們要消耗日本的米是一個優質的而且是要長期的供應的部分兩個重點第一個重點就是現在各縣市有很多各縣市優質的米那我們會協助它有一個品牌因為我覺得打造日本要用品牌去打第二個就是通路的鏈接啦\n那通路鏈結我們現在也跟很多日本的大商社邀請他們來台灣然後去參訪我們的稻米的產地然後希望說他們能夠用一個比較長期的訂單來支持這個部分才是我們要的對 這個也是政府的責任品牌 通路 穩定 採購 制度非常的重要因為我們台灣米是非常的\n這個棒喔 那我也希望近期可以聽到好的消息 方向是對了因為我們國內米要差不多30多塊那你外銷一定會比較好而且幫我們也等於做一個外交也協助我們的農民這是非常好的一個方向一定要加油有了好的成績請告訴大家可以開一個記者會告訴我們的通路是怎麼樣我們的米是怎麼樣好好的去宣傳 好不好幫助我們的農民 謝謝\n好\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.001 --> 00:05.703\n謝謝主席楊潔瑜發言邀請我們部長陳部長\n\n00:14.650 --> 00:17.351\n部長好我想面對於整個氣候變遷跟極端災害的頻率上升那麼我們努力的也就是農業保險條例這個對我們農民來講是非常的重要因為剛剛所說的這兩項因素\n\n00:33.178 --> 00:58.197\n對於整個農業經營的風險是日益的在升高那所以我們的農業保險制度呢應該是要保障我們農民的所得穩定農業經濟的一個重要的一個政策工具但是我們看到目前為止似乎在整個執行的情形不如我們預期那又因為這樣的因素所以我也統計到112年底我們自願性投保的農民僅佔了6.1%\n\n01:02.981 --> 01:08.562\n17%漁業漁產跟農作物的覆蓋率甚至是達到2.13跟2.8那都基於3當然在去年度113年我們不斷的在調整方案113年度那是有增加的但是我們仍舊認為在這樣的風險高風險的因子當中我認為我們還有很大的一個成長空間\n\n01:30.067 --> 01:33.930\n那所以今天我們的召委我們也跟著一起來提案也就是怎麼樣在思緒怎麼樣能夠讓我們的農民更加的得到保障又更加的誘因讓他們可以來參加保險有很多的高經濟的產值的我們的農業比如說我們的這個來養哇這個產值非常的高但是現在高風險它\n\n01:58.827 --> 02:24.085\n不掉果不會掉果啦就掉了有時候就掉在我們的這個這個紙包裡頭結果它裡面是因風搖曳而斷掉它到最後沒有辦法得到養分所以到最後到最後也是沒效的這個果實就壞掉了那所以看到這麼大一顆可是它竟然是沒有辦法\n\n02:26.065 --> 02:36.149\n來採收農民的損失非常的大所以我們也提出了也就是我們的農業保險的這個部分在前五年上限75%的協助第六年60%那因應這個整個策略性以及老天爺給我們的一個挑戰\n\n02:44.071 --> 02:47.836\n以前沒有想過的現在都會發生在這樣的情況之下我們非常的希望能夠把誘因能夠把條件更加的放寬因時因類別而定制所以我希望的也就是行政部門不要一下子\n\n03:02.774 --> 03:12.143\n就否決委員的提案因為我從早上聽到現在我不希望如此而是希望把這些寶貴的意見來綜合我們所有的條件以因應我們因為氣候變遷極端災害所受損農民的痛苦跟他的收入請做說明\n\n03:25.255 --> 03:52.827\n我跟委員報告第一個就是我絕對沒有否定所有委員的版本這第一個要說明的第二個就是說委員的版本裡面那你就要支持啊沒有沒有對不對因為委員的版本裡面第六年百分之六十把它拿掉以後那就有它的不確定性啦不一定是提高喔也可以是零喔因為沒有寫嘛一到五年有寫那原來的六年以後最上限是六十\n\n03:53.587 --> 04:03.031\n所以要因應實際需求啊所以不受限在60啊你也可以繼續75啊甚至因應特別情況你也可以80啊所以剛剛本期特別說了是因應你的類別跟因應氣候變遷跟極端災害的頻率嘛所以重點是在第二項裡面要求農業部一定要定期的檢討我覺得那個才是重點然後第二個就是說\n\n04:22.078 --> 04:40.912\n那個我們現在就算一到前面五年是75上限因為法律規定是上限嘛那以農業部來講以農業部來講我們實際在過去五年大概是用二分之一為標準也沒有到上限那我們鼓勵跟地方政府合作那地方政府出太多的\n\n04:41.172 --> 05:05.279\n這是因為只有二分之一所以你的誘因也沒有那麼多剛開始大家怕怕的所以也沒有宣討的那麼好那現在逐步有一點成績所以這個議題這樣子我希望你們去好好檢討我們整個農業保險制度要怎麼樣去提升頭髮的意願真正能夠保護我們的農民跟他的經濟收益我相信這個共識點\n\n05:07.419 --> 05:36.451\n部長應該同意吧我跟委員報告就是台中市的部分農業部補二分之一台中市政府補四成所以農民只出一成然後用這種方式也不會違背現在的法律規定現在法律規定只是這是因為我們盧市長他對於農業當非常的關心啊可是你不一定每件事都是如此啊今天是你是農業部是中央啊不能拿一個來比喻啊你比喻其他你比不了啊我告訴你好\n\n05:37.091 --> 05:41.394\n所以我跟你說這最重要你好好去檢討我們的農業保險制度要怎麼提升這個投保的意願要怎麼可以確保我們農民的權利跟有經濟收入以因應我還是回歸最源頭氣候變遷跟極端的災害頻率好不好你去研議好那第二個本校要請教視網\n\n06:02.262 --> 06:30.561\n赤網的部分最近媒體一直在披露宜蘭南方澳的豆腐甲海域它是整個它是這個三港區但是有一些潛水的教練他們在那裡發覺到了這個問題民眾幫我們發覺政府就要有責任去管控赤網本來就是在2021年的時候我們就已經說了喔赤網實名制對不對部長\n\n06:32.813 --> 06:58.063\n2021年我們就說赤網要實名制你這個網路面前要有一個準確的編號所以萬一發生你才有線索去瞭解這是誰做的啊對不對那現在這個區塊都是什麼珊瑚耶這珊瑚這麼寶貴耶你這樣去抓尤其現在又是龍蝦的旺季\n\n06:59.346 --> 07:13.960\n對不對那可以嗎那我們政府要怎麼應對請教這種行為是絕對不允許的絕對不允許我們也加強了這個實名制的查核但是很可惜很遺憾的就是說現在目前\n\n07:15.222 --> 07:26.349\n包覆在那個珊瑚礁上面的那個赤網齁他並沒有辦法查到他的實名制可能是更早之前的啊所以你的方法不對嘛你既然你明知道有這個問題政府沒有辦法去應對這不是應付應付就可以了這次你要好好去應對你要有方法你查不到那是誰可是誰怎麼放下去你要去找方法啊\n\n07:40.478 --> 08:05.367\n因為你不能破壞整個珊瑚礁這個是我們聽了心都會痛怎麼辦所以我才會說因為雖然說現在沒辦法查到那個已經覆蓋在珊瑚礁的刺網但是後續我們會針對這邊區域跟地方政府還有跟海巡要去強化就是說任何一個刺網你只要出去的話我先檢查你有沒有實名制再說\n\n08:06.187 --> 08:24.357\n管控對不對從源頭管控而去落實行動才能夠保住對不對而且這個次網是出去也要回來喔你不能出去以後回來就不見了所以部長你知道嗎你們比如說去年你的次網你查獲得有幾件啊\n\n08:25.748 --> 08:44.440\n你查會有幾件你前年查會的有幾件去年我們總共查了23件那處分的有13件前年幾件前年是17件處分是11件部長你聽了會不會心痛你有方法要寫越來越多要不要改變方法\n\n08:45.200 --> 08:56.711\n對不對前年跟去年增加那你要不要改變方法這個是我們行政部門的責任對不對尤其他又是珊瑚區又是香港區不容許\n\n08:58.018 --> 09:24.157\n要注意現在是農家的旺季生產旺季可以抓的旺季要趕快去圍堵好啦要有應對方法好不好最後一個議題你把方案給本席齁最後一個議題齁糧食產業全面升級方案就是你在6月10號你們所推動我也給予鼓勵也就是要讓我們地區農會大家都能夠有契作的制度欸對不起這個這個\n\n09:27.339 --> 09:53.788\n都能夠要有契作的這個制度你強化整個統一栽培管理安全用藥產銷履歷的驗證跟水稻收入的保險機制這個非常重要來提升我們整個稻米的品質跟穩定農民的收益這也是我們一直一直一直在努力的所以在這邊本期要請教因為我們台灣米有夠讚世界讚我們觀光我們的這個品種\n\n09:55.829 --> 10:19.084\n還有栽培技術跟實惠優勢會加了QQQ哇這個是又香這太棒了所以我們外銷的潛力會很多怎麼樣能夠有管道可以讓我們的農民水稻的農民他們的收益能夠更好到目前為止你1月份到5月份呢我可以統計你外銷日本是大概突破7700公噸那是因為\n\n10:21.906 --> 10:40.374\n那是因為比去年同期增加6倍那是因為日本的米在欠所以米荒所以我們這個時機做對了所以請教部長既然有這樣子的一個方案那我們針對於稻米在外銷的部分你是不是有針對日本不要因為人家米荒\n\n10:41.374 --> 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