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00:01:47,211\n來努力可以承諾嗎我跟委員報告一下我們朝這個目標來做努力因為這個東西這個基準出來之後現在到那個單品新車基本上加快速度去安裝應該困難度比較少這應該沒問題但是那個標準要先出來啦當然我知道要有標準嘛那在舊車呢舊車的這個部分我想說基準出來之後我們再來這個輔導\n\n6\n00:01:53,687 --> 00:02:01,419\n當然舊車要輔導啦我們也希望給予一些寬限期那我們建議115年6月以後全面安裝你覺得有困難嗎\n\n7\n00:02:02,943 --> 00:02:25,559\n這個可能我跟文報告這個可能在討論我的認同是可以給予寬限期啦但是你要怎麼樣去加強輔導你要有配套啊那你要告訴我說你要116年我也不是說鐵板一塊溝通產業那你要怎麼具體的方案去做溝通去做配套你要讓我知道啊\n\n8\n00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:47,087\n我想說我們有具體規劃成果就跟委員報告我另外跟委員報告一下那個使用中車輛的一個這個部分當然標準出來之後那使用中車輛如何加裝那這個剛剛講的一個部分使用中車輛高檔這個20萬輛這樣的東西要回去安裝如何安裝在哪邊安裝這個東西都還有一些量能課題這個東西因為我們好\n\n9\n00:02:49,288 --> 00:03:01,938\n這個我都可以體諒但是我要講的是我們要多少人的傷亡才能夠換回這件事情被重視升降尾門不是我在那邊吵那邊鬧是我看到這麼多人死亡市長你知道有人傷亡嗎\n\n10\n00:03:05,726 --> 00:03:22,544\n我瞭解瞭解嘛所以這個已經造成死亡的一個案例我想為了三峽事件我們也積極的在補破網希望能夠做一個變革但是在深巷尾門也有人死亡啊那這個部分上我們也應該好好關切啊可以認同嗎市長\n\n11\n00:03:23,064 --> 00:03:47,933\n是我想我們很感佩委員對這個議題的一個重視安全是沒辦法打折扣但是實務上要去安裝的時候還有實務上的一個困難那這部分就容許我們在相關後續配套措施那我要講的就是說因為已經有過一段時間了啦在去年的六月跟九月車安中心就已經討論過了今年三月又討論一次結果還是沒有下文我想市長很清楚\n\n12\n00:03:49,335 --> 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