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00:01:42,529\n這個方向在做處理好這個方向在做處理所以我剛剛所講的就是說如果他這一個是無照的話被抓到了當場就吊扣車輛還有拍照車輛我們會疑似保管然後吊扣拍照吊扣拍照那這個罰款呢\n\n6\n00:01:45,477 --> 00:01:59,993\n我們會規劃分它是無照機車或汽車有不同的罰款額度然後呢這個罰款沒有上限然後接下來是累犯設計上就是跟酒駕一樣第一次的話就是按照剛才講的這個\n\n7\n00:02:03,716 --> 00:02:23,141\n氣機車分開接下來累犯第二次會有給他一個額度然後第三次以上的以後就是一直加所謂加是把第一次第二次再加第三次然後如果你第四次就一二三四就一直這樣往下加所以叫做罰款沒有上限以上好那這是屬於這個無照駕駛部分那還有要補充說明的嗎\n\n8\n00:02:26,144 --> 00:02:54,221\n剛才也特別提到原則上就是駕駛跟車輛是一併做處理的啦所以剛才講到駕照如果你是無照駕駛的時候滑環以外無上限以外那另外會對於你無照的情節來做這個吊扣駕照或者是吊銷駕照的一個處理那你那一台這個無照駕駛開的車子剛才有講到當場一日保管以後就會有吊扣那吊扣也會有期限的不同\n\n9\n00:02:54,961 --> 00:03:21,344\n那如果你這個汽車駕駛人你去開的這部車不是你本人的話那一樣相關的這個汽車所有人該要做的處罰我們一併罰這樣那跟那個行為人是同樣的嗎行為人同樣當然就是一套的也就是說有關汽車跟不同一個人他相關的一個處罰其實是會是一樣的好那這是無照駕駛的部分那高齡駕駛的部分勒\n\n10\n00:03:22,585 --> 00:03:35,949\n高齡駕駛的部分原則上部長有特別提到我們原則上在未來的三個月內會提出相關的一個配套的一個措施那相關的一個方向不外乎就是提升高齡駕駛的一個安全以這樣的一個觀點去研擬後續的一個規劃\n\n11\n00:03:39,150 --> 00:04:04,223\n那這裡頭會去希望提高這個高齡駕駛人的這個危險感知或這個相關安全的知識對法規的了解所以它會有一個相關的一個講習那另外我們會跟這個駕駛會跟醫療會跟這個醫生或醫學會或是其他學者我們會組成一個交通部有一個駕駛人醫療諮詢委員會我們會去對於認知\n\n12\n00:04:08,205 --> 00:04:31,080\n功能的相關的如何更精進會去討論那第三個部分就是大家經常提到的如果是高風險的這個駕駛人我們如何認定如何判定然後如何來換照如何來限制他駕車這等等的一個配套那當然還有特別提到說是不是有要安裝其他的一個設備我想這個我們都一併再考量那換照年齡就是確定從75歲下修到70歲\n\n13\n00:04:32,609 --> 00:04:50,336\n原則上這個大家對於這個年齡的問題都持續在關注上那這部分我們會聽聽看大家的意見來做處理那原則上是以高風險的駕駛人來做處理好那所以這個都是我關於無照跟高齡駕駛都是六月份會送出來\n\n14\n00:04:52,935 --> 00:05:09,853\n是有關無照駕駛的處罰條例的修正條文那高齡的話我們大概8月底前會提出來好那最後一個問題現在有關這個微型電動二輪車的這一個駕照的這個制度那請問一下你們現在對於這個微型電動二輪車有在做管理嗎\n\n15\n00:05:12,964 --> 00:05:42,151\n微型電動二輪車的話不管是從登記領牌那個或者是保險我們大概都有一系列的的管理的規定那在這裡頭我剛才我也特別說明就是有關駕照的話是跟現行的汽機車的管理上是有缺這個那這部分的我們後續會去跟教育部或相關單位去研究或地方政府去研究如何來對去騎乘微型電動二輪車的這個駕駛朋友來做一些相關的\n\n16\n00:05:43,411 --> 00:06:03,601\n講習或訓練現在是您滿14歲國中學生免訓練無駕駛就可以騎微型電動二輪車因為現行對於微型電動二輪車是把它定位為慢車那慢車就是這樣的跟腳踏車一樣所以是沒有駕照所以這部分你們要怎麼去做修正所以這部分駕照我剛才講對這一部分我們\n\n17\n00:06:04,421 --> 00:06:33,433\n會去跟相關單位來討論如何讓這個訓練落實在那裡頭譬如說學生跟學校或跟教育單位或是你賣車的人對賣出去的車子如何讓這個車輛所有人能夠有一些相關的訓練那所以原則上還是可以騎只是說你們多了教育訓練這樣子嗎是是是是這樣子蠻奇怪的啦就是那至於說是不是因為他是慢車啦是是是\n\n18\n00:06:34,284 --> 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這個處罰條例齁將會說這個將這個無照駕駛比照酒駕當場吊扣車輛及牌照那車主連帶重罰而且累犯罰款無上限大概是這個方向嗎\n這個方向在做處理好這個方向在做處理所以我剛剛所講的就是說如果他這一個是無照的話被抓到了當場就吊扣車輛還有拍照車輛我們會疑似保管然後吊扣拍照吊扣拍照那這個罰款呢\n我們會規劃分它是無照機車或汽車有不同的罰款額度然後呢這個罰款沒有上限然後接下來是累犯設計上就是跟酒駕一樣第一次的話就是按照剛才講的這個\n氣機車分開接下來累犯第二次會有給他一個額度然後第三次以上的以後就是一直加所謂加是把第一次第二次再加第三次然後如果你第四次就一二三四就一直這樣往下加所以叫做罰款沒有上限以上好那這是屬於這個無照駕駛部分那還有要補充說明的嗎\n剛才也特別提到原則上就是駕駛跟車輛是一併做處理的啦所以剛才講到駕照如果你是無照駕駛的時候滑環以外無上限以外那另外會對於你無照的情節來做這個吊扣駕照或者是吊銷駕照的一個處理那你那一台這個無照駕駛開的車子剛才有講到當場一日保管以後就會有吊扣那吊扣也會有期限的不同\n那如果你這個汽車駕駛人你去開的這部車不是你本人的話那一樣相關的這個汽車所有人該要做的處罰我們一併罰這樣那跟那個行為人是同樣的嗎行為人同樣當然就是一套的也就是說有關汽車跟不同一個人他相關的一個處罰其實是會是一樣的好那這是無照駕駛的部分那高齡駕駛的部分勒\n高齡駕駛的部分原則上部長有特別提到我們原則上在未來的三個月內會提出相關的一個配套的一個措施那相關的一個方向不外乎就是提升高齡駕駛的一個安全以這樣的一個觀點去研擬後續的一個規劃\n那這裡頭會去希望提高這個高齡駕駛人的這個危險感知或這個相關安全的知識對法規的了解所以它會有一個相關的一個講習那另外我們會跟這個駕駛會跟醫療會跟這個醫生或醫學會或是其他學者我們會組成一個交通部有一個駕駛人醫療諮詢委員會我們會去對於認知\n功能的相關的如何更精進會去討論那第三個部分就是大家經常提到的如果是高風險的這個駕駛人我們如何認定如何判定然後如何來換照如何來限制他駕車這等等的一個配套那當然還有特別提到說是不是有要安裝其他的一個設備我想這個我們都一併再考量那換照年齡就是確定從75歲下修到70歲\n原則上這個大家對於這個年齡的問題都持續在關注上那這部分我們會聽聽看大家的意見來做處理那原則上是以高風險的駕駛人來做處理好那所以這個都是我關於無照跟高齡駕駛都是六月份會送出來\n是有關無照駕駛的處罰條例的修正條文那高齡的話我們大概8月底前會提出來好 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人、二十\n六、台灣民眾黨黨團分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條條文修正草案」、二十七、委\n員黃健豪等19人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條、第三十五條之二及第六十七條條文修\n正草案」、二十八、委員顏寬恒等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十四條及第四十五條條\n文修正草案」、二十九、委員林俊憲等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十五條條文修正草\n案」、三十、委員牛煦庭等18人、三十一、委員魯明哲等16人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例\n第五十六條條文修正草案」、三十二、台灣民眾黨黨團 (11-1-13) 、三十三、台灣民眾黨黨團\n(11-1-21)分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第六十七條條文修正草案」、三十四、委員羅智強\n等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十二條條文修正草案」、三十五、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具\n「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十八條及第八十四條條文修正草案」、三十六、委員魯明哲等16人\n擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第八十條條文修正草案」、三十七、委員林俊憲等20人、三十八、\n委員廖先翔等19人、三十九、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具分別「道路交通管理處罰條例第九十二條條文\n修正草案」及四十、委員林思銘等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例增訂第九十二條之二條文草\n案」案【本日會議僅進行詢答】","agenda_id":"1145802_00004"}}}