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--> 00:02:00,787\n那這裡面排氣管有多少同樣在去年的時候排氣管的改裝類型有多少請你會後幫我整理資料好不好我們做一個修法一個參考那提案的部分其實我們剛剛都已經說得非常清楚了這個罰則的部分要往上加嘛第二個檢驗驗車的費用當然是要自行負擔我們就把明文入法所以我看到你們交通部的回覆基本上就是尊重審查結果\n\n7\n00:02:01,667 --> 00:02:24,633\n那我們到達法條審查的時候我們再來做討論那今天另外一點點時間我們還是要請教一下我們長期關心大眾運輸的一個問題這一段時間這個今年開始我們編列補助這個公路客運業者的預算這去年是16億嘛對不對今年是24億大概有一個比較顯著的一個增加這本來本期就非常支持我們一向都非常支持大眾運輸我還嫌你增加的不夠但問題是好像\n\n8\n00:02:27,114 --> 00:02:55,671\n上路起來這個結果還是蠻糟糕的像本溪選區南崁這個地方前幾天還是出現了這個因為一個司機感冒請假拖班拖三班那所有這個上班族通勤族大排長龍卡在那邊上不了車叫苦連天那這樣一個狀況顯然沒有改善那每次我們去詢問客運業者他還是這樣講我的司機還是找不到人那我請問你你增加補助之後好針對客運業者的這個司機的缺額的問題有沒有顯著的改善\n\n9\n00:02:56,636 --> 00:02:59,585\n你的這個相關的一些數據能不能提供來請回答\n\n10\n00:03:02,255 --> 00:03:26,850\n數據我們會提供啦因為對於就是說各客運業者缺員的這個部分其實公路局都有相關的一個協助跟業者一起招募啦那對於就是說他招募的時候相關譬如說這一個訓練費用或者是在訓練期間的生活津貼其實我們都有那從這個去年到現在我記得應該是我們招募應該有多大概有一千位\n\n11\n00:03:27,690 --> 00:03:43,994\n這一個全國的這個駕駛不過就是因為他也是分到這一個各個縣市包括這一個這個客運業者或市區公車的業者那這個部分我想委員所提到那個案例我們也了解那確實那個業者他因為我們去查他也說是這個駕駛這個臨時這個身體有狀況這樣子案例其實多不勝數\n\n12\n00:03:49,956 --> 00:04:16,703\n好這樣子我們還是用通盤的角度來看這個事就是說你既然有所謂的大顆車駕駛擴大徵才獎勵就業方案對不對那推動以來你招募到多少心血人力缺口還有多少針對這個缺口你的配套措施是什麼好這三個問題你一樣會後好不好你把這段整理好來整理給本席來做後續的參考我可以先提供給委員一個數據好請從那個開始擴大徵才以來大概有3800多人的透過這樣方式來招募相關的駕駛人\n\n13\n00:04:17,603 --> 00:04:41,191\n那至於詳細的數字我想公路局會會後再問我關鍵要問的是缺口還有多少因為顯然你增加禁用駕駛之後我班次沒有增加我只是本來要裁測要收班的班次我保留了嘛因為我先補了一批人進來但是大家期待不只是看到保留嘛還是在上下班特別亮眼的時間能夠增加班次然後有效輸運甚至導引大家從機車機車改做大眾運輸這才是大家想要看到的交通模式嘛\n\n14\n00:04:41,411 --> 00:05:02,382\n好所以一定還有缺口缺口是多少這你會有提供本期給一個建議除了說你有些補助尤其是職前訓練的部分大概花了比較多的心力之外但改善勞動環境是很重要的就很多客廳業者雖然薪水電得蠻高的可是可能是什麼長途津貼啦加班費啦這些各式各樣的東西加起來的那這個加起來的也很容易被扣掉你就遲到等等你就罰就扣\n\n15\n00:05:03,402 --> 00:05:21,816\n就一來一往朝三暮四待遇還是不好所以我是建議交通部這邊針對客運業者應該給予的薪資項目底薪要高一點嘛對不對津貼什麼的比例來做一下調整針對這樣子的一個薪資結構然後讓勞動環境的改善能夠有一套設算標準這個能不能請交通部先來開始來做一下研議\n\n16\n00:05:23,453 --> 00:05:36,196\n這部分我們會請公路局來做一下好不好因為公路局把待遇做待遇功課來做好我們來做長時間的追蹤跟研討我們都希望這個客運的資源不只要加大投入而且要有效的投入可以嗎是好謝謝好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3067\t5569\t謝謝主席 次長有請好 陳次長喂\n12708\t37875\t市長 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那是所有的改裝類型嘛\n那這裡面排氣管有多少同樣在去年的時候排氣管的改裝類型有多少請你會後幫我整理資料好不好我們做一個修法一個參考那提案的部分其實我們剛剛都已經說得非常清楚了這個罰則的部分要往上加嘛第二個檢驗驗車的費用當然是要自行負擔我們就把明文入法所以我看到你們交通部的回覆基本上就是尊重審查結果\n那我們到達法條審查的時候我們再來做討論那今天另外一點點時間我們還是要請教一下我們長期關心大眾運輸的一個問題這一段時間這個今年開始我們編列補助這個公路客運業者的預算這去年是16億嘛對不對今年是24億大概有一個比較顯著的一個增加這本來本期就非常支持我們一向都非常支持大眾運輸我還嫌你增加的不夠但問題是好像\n上路起來這個結果還是蠻糟糕的像本溪選區南崁這個地方前幾天還是出現了這個因為一個司機感冒請假拖班拖三班那所有這個上班族通勤族大排長龍卡在那邊上不了車叫苦連天那這樣一個狀況顯然沒有改善那每次我們去詢問客運業者他還是這樣講我的司機還是找不到人那我請問你你增加補助之後好針對客運業者的這個司機的缺額的問題有沒有顯著的改善\n你的這個相關的一些數據能不能提供來請回答\n數據我們會提供啦因為對於就是說各客運業者缺員的這個部分其實公路局都有相關的一個協助跟業者一起招募啦那對於就是說他招募的時候相關譬如說這一個訓練費用或者是在訓練期間的生活津貼其實我們都有那從這個去年到現在我記得應該是我們招募應該有多大概有一千位\n這一個全國的這個駕駛不過就是因為他也是分到這一個各個縣市包括這一個這個客運業者或市區公車的業者那這個部分我想委員所提到那個案例我們也了解那確實那個業者他因為我們去查他也說是這個駕駛這個臨時這個身體有狀況這樣子案例其實多不勝數\n好這樣子我們還是用通盤的角度來看這個事就是說你既然有所謂的大顆車駕駛擴大徵才獎勵就業方案對不對那推動以來你招募到多少心血人力缺口還有多少針對這個缺口你的配套措施是什麼好這三個問題你一樣會後好不好你把這段整理好來整理給本席來做後續的參考我可以先提供給委員一個數據好請從那個開始擴大徵才以來大概有3800多人的透過這樣方式來招募相關的駕駛人\n那至於詳細的數字我想公路局會會後再問我關鍵要問的是缺口還有多少因為顯然你增加禁用駕駛之後我班次沒有增加我只是本來要裁測要收班的班次我保留了嘛因為我先補了一批人進來但是大家期待不只是看到保留嘛還是在上下班特別亮眼的時間能夠增加班次然後有效輸運甚至導引大家從機車機車改做大眾運輸這才是大家想要看到的交通模式嘛\n好 所以一定還有缺口缺口是多少 這你會有提供本期給一個建議除了說你有些補助尤其是職前訓練的部分大概花了比較多的心力之外但改善勞動環境是很重要的就很多客廳業者雖然薪水電得蠻高的可是可能是什麼長途津貼啦加班費啦這些各式各樣的東西加起來的那這個加起來的也很容易被扣掉你就遲到等等你就罰就扣\n就一來一往 朝三暮四待遇還是不好所以我是建議交通部這邊針對客運業者應該給予的薪資項目底薪要高一點嘛 對不對津貼什麼的比例來做一下調整針對這樣子的一個薪資結構然後讓勞動環境的改善能夠有一套設算標準這個能不能請交通部先來開始來做一下研議\n這部分我們會請公路局來做一下好不好 因為公路局把待遇做待遇功課來做好 我們來做長時間的追蹤跟研討我們都希望這個客運的資源不只要加大投入而且要有效的投入 可以嗎是好 謝謝好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.067 --> 00:05.569\n謝謝主席次長有請好陳次長喂\n\n00:12.708 --> 00:37.875\n市長午安我們今天討論盜交管理處罰條例這個稍早本席在做提案說明的時候其實有談有關於噪音車的問題那我先請教一下交通部自從2025年我們在改裝排氣管這樣的一個認證制度正式上路之後現在抓到了多少的違規案件那請問你們這邊跟環境部這邊有沒有做統整這樣子的一個制度上路之後改裝排氣管噪音車擾民的狀況有沒有減少\n\n00:43.129 --> 00:52.215\n如果有數字的麻煩你們說明一下好不好來陳局長就是目前舉發這個違規有兩萬多件兩萬八千多件這兩萬八千多件是\n\n01:00.812 --> 01:17.711\n是各類的各類的設備設備的這個缺失的一個違規排氣管嘛我問的是排氣管噪音車嘛我們今天討論噪音車的問題嘛是不是因為排氣管的那個部分我想我們還要再做還要有細部數據對因為他那個條款裡面有包括好幾類設備\n\n01:18.792 --> 01:39.915\n來這樣子好了這個今年是2025嘛2024因為去年今年新制舊制上路之前差別有沒有出來這是本席要非常關心的因為大家都非常討厭噪音車半夜擾民的一個狀況那大家都希望不管是中央還是地方都可以來針對這個東西來做源頭的取締跟查緝嘛那你講今年有兩萬八千件但不全是白氣管嘛那是所有的改裝類型嘛\n\n01:40.996 --> 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人、二十\n六、台灣民眾黨黨團分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條條文修正草案」、二十七、委\n員黃健豪等19人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第三十五條、第三十五條之二及第六十七條條文修\n正草案」、二十八、委員顏寬恒等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十四條及第四十五條條\n文修正草案」、二十九、委員林俊憲等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第四十五條條文修正草\n案」、三十、委員牛煦庭等18人、三十一、委員魯明哲等16人分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例\n第五十六條條文修正草案」、三十二、台灣民眾黨黨團 (11-1-13) 、三十三、台灣民眾黨黨團\n(11-1-21)分別擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第六十七條條文修正草案」、三十四、委員羅智強\n等16人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十二條條文修正草案」、三十五、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具\n「道路交通管理處罰條例第七十八條及第八十四條條文修正草案」、三十六、委員魯明哲等16人\n擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例第八十條條文修正草案」、三十七、委員林俊憲等20人、三十八、\n委員廖先翔等19人、三十九、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具分別「道路交通管理處罰條例第九十二條條文\n修正草案」及四十、委員林思銘等23人擬具「道路交通管理處罰條例增訂第九十二條之二條文草\n案」案【本日會議僅進行詢答】","agenda_id":"1145802_00004"}}}