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00:00:44,137\n各位委員早早我想今天很謝謝趙偉排案那這個我作為這個太空粉這個阿宅其實也認為這個主題非常重要本席過去也贊助過火箭阿伯的計畫所以也希望這個太空相關的發展我們可以一起持續往前衝那太空計畫的第三期呢多年前就有聽說國歌會要修正那聽說現在是送到行政院有說\n\n3\n00:00:45,858 --> 00:01:10,607\n經費有可能要提升到650億那目前想了解一下因為這裡面有包含通訊衛星、入軌火箭等等的計畫目前行政院的意見怎麼樣?什麼時候會向國人報告?4月16號我們已經在行政院開了第一次審查會議然後6月13號已經正式送入行政院裡面所以大概預期什麼時候我們可以向國人再具體的分享?\n\n4\n00:01:12,930 --> 00:01:30,971\n我們在等那個行政院的指示行政院現在好像這個就是到處集中不管是AI基本法還是太空的計畫我們也希望我們卓榮泰院長可以多花時間在您手上的這些文件跟資料台灣的發展不能等那我想我們也關注一下\n\n5\n00:01:31,591 --> 00:01:51,452\n現在各國都在做這個太空競逐那也有人開始去想說算力可以直接上到近地軌道OrbitalEdgeComputing就OEC那我想問一下國科會跟太空中心有沒有計畫把AI算力把它放到這個軌道上去更快速的來計算一些相關的訊號有沒有這樣的想法OK好\n\n6\n00:01:51,892 --> 00:02:09,424\n就是說我們未來會發展那個完整的遙測衛星,這裡面包含關節的包含那個合成孔徑雷達,裡面會有AGcomputing所以相關的這個AI運算也會含在裡面,那這一次的這個第一顆衛星A是沒有的,那接下來BCDE是會有嗎?\n\n7\n00:02:13,410 --> 00:02:30,162\n就是因為剛剛有說未來嘛那到底是哪一顆哪一號以後我們大家可以要早一點準備我們也來配合我們總共有胡巴總共光學有六加二顆前面六顆的我們後面有兩顆有一個叫做HRX那顆會有還有EF\n\n8\n00:02:31,303 --> 00:02:45,199\n好非常好謝謝謝謝這個相關的回應那接下來我也想請教一下這個近期大家有一些社會上的一些不安所以有人在拍攝街景等等好像有這個匪諜\n\n9\n00:02:46,580 --> 00:03:12,174\n還是有這個敵人在到處亂拍攝但實際上呢大家的說法是說谷歌地圖沒有被掌握在敵人手中所以他們在拍街景可是事實上我們的太空的技術現在全世界也都非常先進了我們也非常感謝我們國科會還有太空中心一直都做得很努力我們的遙測的這個衛星的影像服務員的影像也相當清晰可不可以幫忙大家科普一下其實這些街景\n\n10\n00:03:12,614 --> 00:03:18,703\n其實衛星都拍得到了是不是可以幫我們科普一下不要讓大家過度的焦慮或恐慌被有心人士利用\n\n11\n00:03:24,489 --> 00:03:48,920\n因為我想這個Google或什麼這些都是靜態的東西但是我想民眾在憂慮的是有一些動態的比如飛機的起降啊它一些動作我想這是我講的是街景不好意思對所以街景不會有疑慮啦對不對衛星都有拍了謝謝謝謝這個主任所以我想大家也不用過度憂慮但是當然我們的國安還是要好好的警示一下\n\n12\n00:03:49,460 --> 00:03:51,182\n接下來我想請教一下太空研究我們除了科普之外我們也要研發守梅的深空探測儀的任務完成中央大學有刷新最遠的飛行紀錄當然算是不夠完美\n\n13\n00:04:07,322 --> 00:04:26,702\n接下來再接再厲但我們想要關注一下就是說其實我們也找了一些資訊有看到太空中心呢其實有委託了很多的太空的計畫但是剛剛我們提到的這個計畫太空中心是沒有補助的那我們也看了一下國科會好像對於剛剛那個計畫也是沒有補助他是用高校生根的計畫\n\n14\n00:04:27,543 --> 00:04:48,903\n所以我想請教一下就是教育部國科會太空中心這個互相的這些太空計畫的選案有沒有那種我一起來合作讓一個案子失敗一次了我們再讓他一次我們給他多一點資源讓他成功有沒有這樣一個可能能不能在經費啦或特定的方向上副主委或主任這邊能不能給多一點的協助啊好\n\n15\n00:04:49,929 --> 00:05:17,943\n那個基本上高校對大學的支持還有國科會對大學的支持其實都是非常的重要那基本上來講一般的大學他是根據他們過去在國科的研究成果去申請國科教育部的一些中心的一些經費那所以呢其實這個都是聯繫的很好也就是說其實各中心在審查時候國科會也都會去看所以那個委員講得很好我們基本上那個經費都是一起在應該沒有複製啦\n\n16\n00:05:18,983 --> 00:05:37,248\n對不對沒有說高教生跟用的錢國科會就不能補助太空中心就不能加碼對吧沒有互斥啊曾經有發生過就是這個計畫他們在教育部的經費已經使用完畢了他會回來跟國科會要求我們會去審查如果他所言所述我們會緊急的撥款給他們\n\n17\n00:05:39,369 --> 00:06:01,107\n所以因為我們真的都非常關心我們希望各項太空計畫不管是誰在進行能夠幫助台灣的我們都一起來支持好不好所以剛剛有一些專案我想希望副主委還有主任來關心一下另外我們也看到太空中心委託工研院做的分析報告我先給予肯定2024年在衛星製造上面成長率是100%那整個產值是有往上提升的\n\n18\n00:06:06,852 --> 00:06:16,937\n那2024年現在已經過了六個月我想請教一下2024年的全球佔比的產值是多少今年2025年或者明年接下來有沒有一個預計的目標好我請太空中心的同仁回應跟委員報告2024年產值大概已經接近大概2900億的台幣\n\n19\n00:06:31,361 --> 00:06:49,268\n所以是有持續成長所以我想這個相關的人才還有資源目標都應該要設好最後想跟主委談一下AI的議題我想請教一下副主委對不起抱歉副主委想請教一下您覺得AI現在在各國之間是競爭還是觀望\n\n20\n00:06:52,690 --> 00:07:16,963\n競爭競爭嘛對嘛沒錯所以我們就看到其實鴻海就推出了很多的計畫其實也就知道現在是在競爭韓國也在1月推出人工智慧基本法日本本月初通過了相關的這個法案還成立了所謂的AI戰略部但是國會主委呢竟然在去年提出草案版本被收尾以後呢現在突然說回去了\n\n21\n00:07:17,623 --> 00:07:39,379\n吳主委甚至還在上週三我們審查AI基本法的時候說AI發展仍在起步當中各國這是主委的話喔反而採取一種觀望的態度我想這種做法大家會同意嗎我想請教一下副主委您同意嗎您剛剛已經說了是競爭嘛我們就應該要趕快加速結果主委又說是觀望\n\n22\n00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:57,489\n跟葛委員報告其實我們國會很多計畫現在真的都在加速建制AI的算力還有包含那個他所需要的電源的取得我們都是在加速規劃對那這些資源跟這些算力跟這些人員要有一個整體的框架那您是不是支持AI基本法應該要趕快通過\n\n23\n00:08:00,518 --> 00:08:15,682\n應該要趕快通過是好謝謝我們大家一起努力最後跟主席爭取一點點時間我們現在看到有所謂的AI新十大建設國科會裡面也做了一些響應我想請教一下號稱15兆2040年國科會要分擔15兆當中幾%的產值\n\n24\n00:08:26,011 --> 00:08:47,292\n其實那個整體的方案我們其實包括了國科會、國發部、經濟部、書發部我們目前還整體在討論當中所以很難說這樣國科會負責多少的產值所以我想我還是要再提醒一下如果計畫都還沒有確定吳主委、國科會、國發會的劉主委就喊了這麼大聲\n\n25\n00:08:48,573 --> 00:09:10,215\n結果規劃一問到細節連國科會到底負責多少都不知道那我再問一個嘛那你具體整個大餅你分到多少不知道或者是你要分配多少責任不知道那請問你們提到了四項這個十大建設的AI新科技智慧機器人量子矽光子主旋AI那這四個又怎麼分配比重這是你們內部自己可以決定了決定了嗎\n\n26\n00:09:12,936 --> 00:09:31,807\n跟委員報告基本上來講我們算是全力推動這些前瞻技術的研發所以平均分攤經費的部分還是要看因為目前來講不是產值對不起我講的是十大建設的產值因為國科會喊出這四大項我們在推進十大建設圖片都有寫這個總是你們為主了吧\n\n27\n00:09:35,775 --> 00:09:54,670\n負責前瞻科技的這個部分的投入那當然那個產值會從上中下游整體來去沒有我說你們負責的產值好沒有關係我們其實可以看到其實現在就是一個口號啦那沒有關係我覺得大家在努力但是國外在搶資源在走競爭真的不是觀望\n\n28\n00:09:55,330 --> 00:10:16,638\n也真的已經是不只是起步在加速了我們現在只見到口號沒有內容我們從AI內閣到主權AI現在還沒看到一個線索來突然跑出一個十大建設我想是不是請副主委帶回去跟吳主委討論一下具體方案能不能早一點確認內部的還有跟外部聯繫的尤其主委又是政委\n\n29\n00:10:17,378 --> 00:10:28,075\n面臨到什麼樣的困難那也許早一點現在又在編列相關的計畫我們一起來努力可以嗎好是好謝謝謝謝副主委謝謝謝謝主席好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n12644\t15925\t好 謝謝召委 有請林副主委林副主委請\n19535\t44137\t各位委員早早我想今天很謝謝趙偉排案那這個我作為這個太空粉這個阿宅其實也認為這個主題非常重要本席過去也贊助過火箭阿伯的計畫所以也希望這個太空相關的發展我們可以一起持續往前衝那太空計畫的第三期呢多年前就有聽說國歌會要修正那聽說現在是送到行政院有說\n45858\t70607\t經費有可能要提升到650億那目前想了解一下因為這裡面有包含通訊衛星、入軌火箭等等的計畫目前行政院的意見怎麼樣?什麼時候會向國人報告?4月16號我們已經在行政院開了第一次審查會議然後6月13號已經正式送入行政院裡面所以大概預期什麼時候我們可以向國人再具體的分享?\n72930\t90971\t我們在等那個行政院的指示行政院現在好像這個就是到處集中不管是AI基本法還是太空的計畫我們也希望我們卓榮泰院長可以多花時間在您手上的這些文件跟資料台灣的發展不能等那我想我們也關注一下\n91591\t111452\t現在各國都在做這個太空競逐那也有人開始去想說算力可以直接上到近地軌道Orbital Edge Computing就OEC那我想問一下國科會跟太空中心有沒有計畫把AI算力把它放到這個軌道上去更快速的來計算一些相關的訊號有沒有這樣的想法OK 好\n111892\t129424\t就是說我們未來會發展那個完整的遙測衛星,這裡面包含關節的包含那個合成孔徑雷達,裡面會有AG computing所以相關的這個AI運算也會含在裡面,那這一次的這個第一顆衛星A是沒有的,那接下來BCDE是會有嗎?\n133410\t150162\t就是因為剛剛有說未來嘛那到底是哪一顆哪一號以後我們大家可以要早一點準備我們也來配合我們總共有胡巴總共光學有六加二顆前面六顆的我們後面有兩顆有一個叫做HRX那顆會有還有EF\n151303\t165199\t好 非常好 謝謝謝謝這個相關的回應那接下來我也想請教一下這個近期大家有一些社會上的一些不安所以有人在拍攝街景等等好像有這個匪諜\n166580\t192174\t還是有這個敵人在到處亂拍攝但實際上呢大家的說法是說谷歌地圖沒有被掌握在敵人手中所以他們在拍街景可是事實上我們的太空的技術現在全世界也都非常先進了我們也非常感謝我們國科會還有太空中心一直都做得很努力我們的遙測的這個衛星的影像服務員的影像也相當清晰可不可以幫忙大家科普一下其實這些街景\n192614\t198703\t其實衛星都拍得到了是不是可以幫我們科普一下不要讓大家過度的焦慮或恐慌被有心人士利用\n204489\t228920\t因為我想這個Google或什麼這些都是靜態的東西但是我想民眾在憂慮的是有一些動態的比如飛機的起降啊 它一些動作我想這是我講的是街景 不好意思對所以街景不會有疑慮啦 對不對衛星都有拍了謝謝 謝謝這個主任所以我想大家也不用過度憂慮但是當然我們的國安還是要好好的警示一下\n229460\t231182\t接下來我想請教一下太空研究我們除了科普之外我們也要研發守梅的深空探測儀的任務完成中央大學有刷新最遠的飛行紀錄當然算是不夠完美\n247322\t266702\t接下來再接再厲但我們想要關注一下就是說其實我們也找了一些資訊有看到太空中心呢其實有委託了很多的太空的計畫但是剛剛我們提到的這個計畫太空中心是沒有補助的那我們也看了一下國科會好像對於剛剛那個計畫也是沒有補助他是用高校生根的計畫\n267543\t288903\t所以我想請教一下就是教育部國科會太空中心這個互相的這些太空計畫的選案有沒有那種我一起來合作讓一個案子失敗一次了我們再讓他一次我們給他多一點資源讓他成功有沒有這樣一個可能能不能在經費啦或特定的方向上副主委或主任這邊能不能給多一點的協助啊好\n289929\t317943\t那個基本上高校對大學的支持還有國科會對大學的支持其實都是非常的重要那基本上來講一般的大學他是根據他們過去在國科的研究成果去申請國科教育部的一些中心的一些經費那所以呢其實這個都是聯繫的很好也就是說其實各中心在審查時候國科會也都會去看所以那個委員講得很好我們基本上那個經費都是一起在應該沒有複製啦\n318983\t337248\t對不對 沒有說高教生跟用的錢國科會就不能補助 太空中心就不能加碼 對吧沒有互斥啊曾經有發生過 就是這個計畫他們在教育部的經費已經使用完畢了他會回來跟國科會要求 我們會去審查如果他所言所述 我們會緊急的撥款給他們\n339369\t361107\t所以因為我們真的都非常關心我們希望各項太空計畫不管是誰在進行能夠幫助台灣的我們都一起來支持好不好所以剛剛有一些專案我想希望副主委還有主任來關心一下另外我們也看到太空中心委託工研院做的分析報告我先給予肯定2024年在衛星製造上面成長率是100%那整個產值是有往上提升的\n366852\t376937\t那2024年現在已經過了六個月我想請教一下2024年的全球佔比的產值是多少今年2025年或者明年接下來有沒有一個預計的目標好我請太空中心的同仁回應跟委員報告2024年產值大概已經接近大概2900億的台幣\n391361\t409268\t所以是有持續成長所以我想這個相關的人才還有資源 目標都應該要設好最後想跟主委談一下AI的議題我想請教一下副主委對不起抱歉副主委想請教一下您覺得AI現在在各國之間是競爭還是觀望\n412690\t436963\t競爭競爭嘛對嘛沒錯所以我們就看到其實鴻海就推出了很多的計畫其實也就知道現在是在競爭韓國也在1月推出人工智慧基本法日本本月初通過了相關的這個法案還成立了所謂的AI戰略部但是國會主委呢竟然在去年提出草案版本被收尾以後呢現在突然說回去了\n437623\t459379\t吳主委甚至還在上週三我們審查AI基本法的時候說AI發展仍在起步當中各國這是主委的話喔反而採取一種觀望的態度我想這種做法大家會同意嗎我想請教一下副主委您同意嗎您剛剛已經說了是競爭嘛我們就應該要趕快加速結果主委又說是觀望\n460360\t477489\t跟葛委員報告其實我們國會很多計畫現在真的都在加速建制AI的算力還有包含那個他所需要的電源的取得我們都是在加速規劃對那這些資源跟這些算力跟這些人員要有一個整體的框架那您是不是支持AI基本法應該要趕快通過\n480518\t495682\t應該要趕快通過是好 謝謝我們大家一起努力最後跟主席爭取一點點時間我們現在看到有所謂的AI新十大建設國科會裡面也做了一些響應我想請教一下號稱15兆2040年國科會要分擔15兆當中幾%的產值\n506011\t527292\t其實那個整體的方案我們其實包括了國科會、國發部、經濟部、書發部我們目前還整體在討論當中所以很難說這樣國科會負責多少的產值所以我想我還是要再提醒一下如果計畫都還沒有確定吳主委、國科會、國發會的劉主委就喊了這麼大聲\n528573\t550215\t結果規劃一問到細節連國科會到底負責多少都不知道那我再問一個嘛那你具體整個大餅你分到多少不知道或者是你要分配多少責任不知道那請問你們提到了四項這個十大建設的AI新科技智慧機器人 量子 矽光子 主旋AI那這四個又怎麼分配比重這是你們內部自己可以決定了決定了嗎\n552936\t571807\t跟委員報告基本上來講我們算是全力推動這些前瞻技術的研發所以平均分攤經費的部分還是要看因為目前來講不是產值對不起我講的是十大建設的產值因為國科會喊出這四大項我們在推進十大建設圖片都有寫這個總是你們為主了吧\n575775\t594670\t負責前瞻科技的這個部分的投入那當然那個產值會從上中下游整體來去沒有我說你們負責的產值好沒有關係我們其實可以看到其實現在就是一個口號啦那沒有關係我覺得大家在努力但是國外在搶資源在走競爭真的不是觀望\n595330\t616638\t也真的已經是不只是起步在加速了我們現在只見到口號沒有內容我們從AI內閣到主權AI現在還沒看到一個線索來突然跑出一個十大建設我想是不是請副主委帶回去跟吳主委討論一下具體方案能不能早一點確認內部的還有跟外部聯繫的尤其主委又是政委\n617378\t628075\t面臨到什麼樣的困難那也許早一點現在又在編列相關的計畫我們一起來努力可以嗎好是好謝謝謝謝副主委謝謝謝謝主席好謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝召委 有請林副主委林副主委請\n各位委員早早我想今天很謝謝趙偉排案那這個我作為這個太空粉這個阿宅其實也認為這個主題非常重要本席過去也贊助過火箭阿伯的計畫所以也希望這個太空相關的發展我們可以一起持續往前衝那太空計畫的第三期呢多年前就有聽說國歌會要修正那聽說現在是送到行政院有說\n經費有可能要提升到650億那目前想了解一下因為這裡面有包含通訊衛星、入軌火箭等等的計畫目前行政院的意見怎麼樣?什麼時候會向國人報告?4月16號我們已經在行政院開了第一次審查會議然後6月13號已經正式送入行政院裡面所以大概預期什麼時候我們可以向國人再具體的分享?\n我們在等那個行政院的指示行政院現在好像這個就是到處集中不管是AI基本法還是太空的計畫我們也希望我們卓榮泰院長可以多花時間在您手上的這些文件跟資料台灣的發展不能等那我想我們也關注一下\n現在各國都在做這個太空競逐那也有人開始去想說算力可以直接上到近地軌道Orbital Edge Computing就OEC那我想問一下國科會跟太空中心有沒有計畫把AI算力把它放到這個軌道上去更快速的來計算一些相關的訊號有沒有這樣的想法OK 好\n就是說我們未來會發展那個完整的遙測衛星,這裡面包含關節的包含那個合成孔徑雷達,裡面會有AG computing所以相關的這個AI運算也會含在裡面,那這一次的這個第一顆衛星A是沒有的,那接下來BCDE是會有嗎?\n就是因為剛剛有說未來嘛那到底是哪一顆哪一號以後我們大家可以要早一點準備我們也來配合我們總共有胡巴總共光學有六加二顆前面六顆的我們後面有兩顆有一個叫做HRX那顆會有還有EF\n好 非常好 謝謝謝謝這個相關的回應那接下來我也想請教一下這個近期大家有一些社會上的一些不安所以有人在拍攝街景等等好像有這個匪諜\n還是有這個敵人在到處亂拍攝但實際上呢大家的說法是說谷歌地圖沒有被掌握在敵人手中所以他們在拍街景可是事實上我們的太空的技術現在全世界也都非常先進了我們也非常感謝我們國科會還有太空中心一直都做得很努力我們的遙測的這個衛星的影像服務員的影像也相當清晰可不可以幫忙大家科普一下其實這些街景\n其實衛星都拍得到了是不是可以幫我們科普一下不要讓大家過度的焦慮或恐慌被有心人士利用\n因為我想這個Google或什麼這些都是靜態的東西但是我想民眾在憂慮的是有一些動態的比如飛機的起降啊 它一些動作我想這是我講的是街景 不好意思對所以街景不會有疑慮啦 對不對衛星都有拍了謝謝 謝謝這個主任所以我想大家也不用過度憂慮但是當然我們的國安還是要好好的警示一下\n接下來我想請教一下太空研究我們除了科普之外我們也要研發守梅的深空探測儀的任務完成中央大學有刷新最遠的飛行紀錄當然算是不夠完美\n接下來再接再厲但我們想要關注一下就是說其實我們也找了一些資訊有看到太空中心呢其實有委託了很多的太空的計畫但是剛剛我們提到的這個計畫太空中心是沒有補助的那我們也看了一下國科會好像對於剛剛那個計畫也是沒有補助他是用高校生根的計畫\n所以我想請教一下就是教育部國科會太空中心這個互相的這些太空計畫的選案有沒有那種我一起來合作讓一個案子失敗一次了我們再讓他一次我們給他多一點資源讓他成功有沒有這樣一個可能能不能在經費啦或特定的方向上副主委或主任這邊能不能給多一點的協助啊好\n那個基本上高校對大學的支持還有國科會對大學的支持其實都是非常的重要那基本上來講一般的大學他是根據他們過去在國科的研究成果去申請國科教育部的一些中心的一些經費那所以呢其實這個都是聯繫的很好也就是說其實各中心在審查時候國科會也都會去看所以那個委員講得很好我們基本上那個經費都是一起在應該沒有複製啦\n對不對 沒有說高教生跟用的錢國科會就不能補助 太空中心就不能加碼 對吧沒有互斥啊曾經有發生過 就是這個計畫他們在教育部的經費已經使用完畢了他會回來跟國科會要求 我們會去審查如果他所言所述 我們會緊急的撥款給他們\n所以因為我們真的都非常關心我們希望各項太空計畫不管是誰在進行能夠幫助台灣的我們都一起來支持好不好所以剛剛有一些專案我想希望副主委還有主任來關心一下另外我們也看到太空中心委託工研院做的分析報告我先給予肯定2024年在衛星製造上面成長率是100%那整個產值是有往上提升的\n那2024年現在已經過了六個月我想請教一下2024年的全球佔比的產值是多少今年2025年或者明年接下來有沒有一個預計的目標好我請太空中心的同仁回應跟委員報告2024年產值大概已經接近大概2900億的台幣\n所以是有持續成長所以我想這個相關的人才還有資源 目標都應該要設好最後想跟主委談一下AI的議題我想請教一下副主委對不起抱歉副主委想請教一下您覺得AI現在在各國之間是競爭還是觀望\n競爭競爭嘛對嘛沒錯所以我們就看到其實鴻海就推出了很多的計畫其實也就知道現在是在競爭韓國也在1月推出人工智慧基本法日本本月初通過了相關的這個法案還成立了所謂的AI戰略部但是國會主委呢竟然在去年提出草案版本被收尾以後呢現在突然說回去了\n吳主委甚至還在上週三我們審查AI基本法的時候說AI發展仍在起步當中各國這是主委的話喔反而採取一種觀望的態度我想這種做法大家會同意嗎我想請教一下副主委您同意嗎您剛剛已經說了是競爭嘛我們就應該要趕快加速結果主委又說是觀望\n跟葛委員報告其實我們國會很多計畫現在真的都在加速建制AI的算力還有包含那個他所需要的電源的取得我們都是在加速規劃對那這些資源跟這些算力跟這些人員要有一個整體的框架那您是不是支持AI基本法應該要趕快通過\n應該要趕快通過是好 謝謝我們大家一起努力最後跟主席爭取一點點時間我們現在看到有所謂的AI新十大建設國科會裡面也做了一些響應我想請教一下號稱15兆2040年國科會要分擔15兆當中幾%的產值\n其實那個整體的方案我們其實包括了國科會、國發部、經濟部、書發部我們目前還整體在討論當中所以很難說這樣國科會負責多少的產值所以我想我還是要再提醒一下如果計畫都還沒有確定吳主委、國科會、國發會的劉主委就喊了這麼大聲\n結果規劃一問到細節連國科會到底負責多少都不知道那我再問一個嘛那你具體整個大餅你分到多少不知道或者是你要分配多少責任不知道那請問你們提到了四項這個十大建設的AI新科技智慧機器人 量子 矽光子 主旋AI那這四個又怎麼分配比重這是你們內部自己可以決定了決定了嗎\n跟委員報告基本上來講我們算是全力推動這些前瞻技術的研發所以平均分攤經費的部分還是要看因為目前來講不是產值對不起我講的是十大建設的產值因為國科會喊出這四大項我們在推進十大建設圖片都有寫這個總是你們為主了吧\n負責前瞻科技的這個部分的投入那當然那個產值會從上中下游整體來去沒有我說你們負責的產值好沒有關係我們其實可以看到其實現在就是一個口號啦那沒有關係我覺得大家在努力但是國外在搶資源在走競爭真的不是觀望\n也真的已經是不只是起步在加速了我們現在只見到口號沒有內容我們從AI內閣到主權AI現在還沒看到一個線索來突然跑出一個十大建設我想是不是請副主委帶回去跟吳主委討論一下具體方案能不能早一點確認內部的還有跟外部聯繫的尤其主委又是政委\n面臨到什麼樣的困難那也許早一點現在又在編列相關的計畫我們一起來努力可以嗎好是好謝謝謝謝副主委謝謝謝謝主席好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:12.644 --> 00:15.925\n好謝謝召委有請林副主委林副主委請\n\n00:19.535 --> 00:44.137\n各位委員早早我想今天很謝謝趙偉排案那這個我作為這個太空粉這個阿宅其實也認為這個主題非常重要本席過去也贊助過火箭阿伯的計畫所以也希望這個太空相關的發展我們可以一起持續往前衝那太空計畫的第三期呢多年前就有聽說國歌會要修正那聽說現在是送到行政院有說\n\n00:45.858 --> 01:10.607\n經費有可能要提升到650億那目前想了解一下因為這裡面有包含通訊衛星、入軌火箭等等的計畫目前行政院的意見怎麼樣?什麼時候會向國人報告?4月16號我們已經在行政院開了第一次審查會議然後6月13號已經正式送入行政院裡面所以大概預期什麼時候我們可以向國人再具體的分享?\n\n01:12.930 --> 01:30.971\n我們在等那個行政院的指示行政院現在好像這個就是到處集中不管是AI基本法還是太空的計畫我們也希望我們卓榮泰院長可以多花時間在您手上的這些文件跟資料台灣的發展不能等那我想我們也關注一下\n\n01:31.591 --> 01:51.452\n現在各國都在做這個太空競逐那也有人開始去想說算力可以直接上到近地軌道OrbitalEdgeComputing就OEC那我想問一下國科會跟太空中心有沒有計畫把AI算力把它放到這個軌道上去更快速的來計算一些相關的訊號有沒有這樣的想法OK好\n\n01:51.892 --> 02:09.424\n就是說我們未來會發展那個完整的遙測衛星,這裡面包含關節的包含那個合成孔徑雷達,裡面會有AGcomputing所以相關的這個AI運算也會含在裡面,那這一次的這個第一顆衛星A是沒有的,那接下來BCDE是會有嗎?\n\n02:13.410 --> 02:30.162\n就是因為剛剛有說未來嘛那到底是哪一顆哪一號以後我們大家可以要早一點準備我們也來配合我們總共有胡巴總共光學有六加二顆前面六顆的我們後面有兩顆有一個叫做HRX那顆會有還有EF\n\n02:31.303 --> 02:45.199\n好非常好謝謝謝謝這個相關的回應那接下來我也想請教一下這個近期大家有一些社會上的一些不安所以有人在拍攝街景等等好像有這個匪諜\n\n02:46.580 --> 03:12.174\n還是有這個敵人在到處亂拍攝但實際上呢大家的說法是說谷歌地圖沒有被掌握在敵人手中所以他們在拍街景可是事實上我們的太空的技術現在全世界也都非常先進了我們也非常感謝我們國科會還有太空中心一直都做得很努力我們的遙測的這個衛星的影像服務員的影像也相當清晰可不可以幫忙大家科普一下其實這些街景\n\n03:12.614 --> 03:18.703\n其實衛星都拍得到了是不是可以幫我們科普一下不要讓大家過度的焦慮或恐慌被有心人士利用\n\n03:24.489 --> 03:48.920\n因為我想這個Google或什麼這些都是靜態的東西但是我想民眾在憂慮的是有一些動態的比如飛機的起降啊它一些動作我想這是我講的是街景不好意思對所以街景不會有疑慮啦對不對衛星都有拍了謝謝謝謝這個主任所以我想大家也不用過度憂慮但是當然我們的國安還是要好好的警示一下\n\n03:49.460 --> 03:51.182\n接下來我想請教一下太空研究我們除了科普之外我們也要研發守梅的深空探測儀的任務完成中央大學有刷新最遠的飛行紀錄當然算是不夠完美\n\n04:07.322 --> 04:26.702\n接下來再接再厲但我們想要關注一下就是說其實我們也找了一些資訊有看到太空中心呢其實有委託了很多的太空的計畫但是剛剛我們提到的這個計畫太空中心是沒有補助的那我們也看了一下國科會好像對於剛剛那個計畫也是沒有補助他是用高校生根的計畫\n\n04:27.543 --> 04:48.903\n所以我想請教一下就是教育部國科會太空中心這個互相的這些太空計畫的選案有沒有那種我一起來合作讓一個案子失敗一次了我們再讓他一次我們給他多一點資源讓他成功有沒有這樣一個可能能不能在經費啦或特定的方向上副主委或主任這邊能不能給多一點的協助啊好\n\n04:49.929 --> 05:17.943\n那個基本上高校對大學的支持還有國科會對大學的支持其實都是非常的重要那基本上來講一般的大學他是根據他們過去在國科的研究成果去申請國科教育部的一些中心的一些經費那所以呢其實這個都是聯繫的很好也就是說其實各中心在審查時候國科會也都會去看所以那個委員講得很好我們基本上那個經費都是一起在應該沒有複製啦\n\n05:18.983 --> 05:37.248\n對不對沒有說高教生跟用的錢國科會就不能補助太空中心就不能加碼對吧沒有互斥啊曾經有發生過就是這個計畫他們在教育部的經費已經使用完畢了他會回來跟國科會要求我們會去審查如果他所言所述我們會緊急的撥款給他們\n\n05:39.369 --> 06:01.107\n所以因為我們真的都非常關心我們希望各項太空計畫不管是誰在進行能夠幫助台灣的我們都一起來支持好不好所以剛剛有一些專案我想希望副主委還有主任來關心一下另外我們也看到太空中心委託工研院做的分析報告我先給予肯定2024年在衛星製造上面成長率是100%那整個產值是有往上提升的\n\n06:06.852 --> 06:16.937\n那2024年現在已經過了六個月我想請教一下2024年的全球佔比的產值是多少今年2025年或者明年接下來有沒有一個預計的目標好我請太空中心的同仁回應跟委員報告2024年產值大概已經接近大概2900億的台幣\n\n06:31.361 --> 06:49.268\n所以是有持續成長所以我想這個相關的人才還有資源目標都應該要設好最後想跟主委談一下AI的議題我想請教一下副主委對不起抱歉副主委想請教一下您覺得AI現在在各國之間是競爭還是觀望\n\n06:52.690 --> 07:16.963\n競爭競爭嘛對嘛沒錯所以我們就看到其實鴻海就推出了很多的計畫其實也就知道現在是在競爭韓國也在1月推出人工智慧基本法日本本月初通過了相關的這個法案還成立了所謂的AI戰略部但是國會主委呢竟然在去年提出草案版本被收尾以後呢現在突然說回去了\n\n07:17.623 --> 07:39.379\n吳主委甚至還在上週三我們審查AI基本法的時候說AI發展仍在起步當中各國這是主委的話喔反而採取一種觀望的態度我想這種做法大家會同意嗎我想請教一下副主委您同意嗎您剛剛已經說了是競爭嘛我們就應該要趕快加速結果主委又說是觀望\n\n07:40.360 --> 07:57.489\n跟葛委員報告其實我們國會很多計畫現在真的都在加速建制AI的算力還有包含那個他所需要的電源的取得我們都是在加速規劃對那這些資源跟這些算力跟這些人員要有一個整體的框架那您是不是支持AI基本法應該要趕快通過\n\n08:00.518 --> 08:15.682\n應該要趕快通過是好謝謝我們大家一起努力最後跟主席爭取一點點時間我們現在看到有所謂的AI新十大建設國科會裡面也做了一些響應我想請教一下號稱15兆2040年國科會要分擔15兆當中幾%的產值\n\n08:26.011 --> 08:47.292\n其實那個整體的方案我們其實包括了國科會、國發部、經濟部、書發部我們目前還整體在討論當中所以很難說這樣國科會負責多少的產值所以我想我還是要再提醒一下如果計畫都還沒有確定吳主委、國科會、國發會的劉主委就喊了這麼大聲\n\n08:48.573 --> 09:10.215\n結果規劃一問到細節連國科會到底負責多少都不知道那我再問一個嘛那你具體整個大餅你分到多少不知道或者是你要分配多少責任不知道那請問你們提到了四項這個十大建設的AI新科技智慧機器人量子矽光子主旋AI那這四個又怎麼分配比重這是你們內部自己可以決定了決定了嗎\n\n09:12.936 --> 09:31.807\n跟委員報告基本上來講我們算是全力推動這些前瞻技術的研發所以平均分攤經費的部分還是要看因為目前來講不是產值對不起我講的是十大建設的產值因為國科會喊出這四大項我們在推進十大建設圖片都有寫這個總是你們為主了吧\n\n09:35.775 --> 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