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00:00:33,903\n主委早主委早主委我想我們今天在討論這個國外專業人才纜財的這個延攬跟僱用的修正草案那這個草案其實我們經過很多各種不同的版本各種不同的討論所以你們有沒有稍微去做過一下盤整包括做過一些整理到底從這個法案\n\n3\n00:00:34,944 --> 00:01:04,224\n第一次三讀通過一直到現在它的成效到底如何它的KPI是怎樣那我們現在要提出來的這一些修法我想每一個人都希望能夠多延攬一些外國人才我們都希望能夠放寬那到底你們有沒有去做過整理現行的規定對於國外人才到台灣來的誘因甚至方便度到底足不足我們如果這樣子修了之後\n\n4\n00:01:05,626 --> 00:01:28,127\n你覺得會增加他們來台灣的機會會增加多少謝謝委員我們有做過統計我們到2025年的4月底外國專業人才得到有效許可的有55,677人那外國特定專業人才也累積了18,430人那留在台灣有多少\n\n5\n00:01:30,305 --> 00:01:45,401\n留在台灣的能夠真的留下來的他可能申請來了一段時間就走還是說他來了之後他可以一直留在這裡跟公司在做互動比如說有可能從A公司到B公司這也是有可能啊留下來的會有多少\n\n6\n00:01:47,426 --> 00:02:09,795\n你可能現在沒有數字啦這個主委您可以再回去稍微整理一下我其實比較想要知道就是說我們讓法令通過擴大我們放寬那真正能夠延攬到他們真的能夠把他們留在台灣的機率的這個數字是會有多少\n\n7\n00:02:11,125 --> 00:02:33,892\n這些我不曉得你們有沒有算過包括就業金卡我們也一直在講就業金卡的申請過去就業金卡的申請也是手續繁複那我們現在也一再的在放寬這些限制那就業金卡申請到了之後這些申請就業金卡的人他有沒有辦法真的很安心的留在台灣工作就業\n\n8\n00:02:35,552 --> 00:02:54,542\n這些數字你們到底有沒有那有沒有跟這些人做過比如說座談會啦或者是了解他們的需求或者是了解他們的困難度那作為我們未來在提案修正上面的一個很重要的參考指標所以我相信我這樣問您看起來\n\n9\n00:02:56,304 --> 00:03:16,383\n好像並不是很清楚有有有我跟您報告一下就業金卡的部分其實我們有做過統計我目前是13000多張的就業金卡那其中有48%目前是留在台灣那另外有其中有有將近3000多張是6個月沒有\n\n10\n00:03:17,203 --> 00:03:34,470\n沒有進出剩下的都還會有進出的部分那我們特別檢討幾件事情所以你說留下來48%那還是不到那就沒有五成啦那是常駐留台喔那有一部分是Travelbase那六個月沒有往來就是六個月沒有再進出台灣的喔\n\n11\n00:03:35,450 --> 00:03:49,995\n那大概有3600多位他是六個月沒有進出的那這個有沒有辦法去了解到底為什麼有我們其實有他是覺得台灣其實不太適合他的不太適合他的生存不太這整個工作環境\n\n12\n00:03:50,635 --> 00:04:12,882\n他並不適應啦還是法條太多太繁雜其實我真的覺得我們很多的規定實在是太多太繁雜那搞到這一些這些申請就業金卡的人很多都是在美國長大或者是在其他歐美地區長大的他會覺得我都不知道要去找哪一條法條才能真正幫助到他我覺得這是我們在法令制定上面的一個困境\n\n13\n00:04:13,522 --> 00:04:36,442\n我們總是希望能夠嚴格管理結果那個管理那個法條已經多如牛毛多到可能搞不好連你們自己都不知道要去依照哪一個法條去做申請所以我其實是比較建議我們在做放寬我當然支持所謂的專業人才的這個放寬但是在很多法條放寬的部分其實你們應該要去修正一些\n\n14\n00:04:37,823 --> 00:04:56,555\n不要把那個法令的東西搞得太複雜這個是我期待那個國發會能夠去做一些統整真的能夠把好的人才帶進來台灣而且讓他願意留在台灣發展第二個這個主委要跟您談到人工智慧島\n\n15\n00:04:57,435 --> 00:05:19,384\n的這個大政策這個是未來國家的願景那這個過去國發會也講過說我們未來要在設定在2040年要達到15兆的產值人工智慧島跟剛剛我們提到的纜財其實他有一點異曲同步就是說他需要很多的人才庫\n\n16\n00:05:20,564 --> 00:05:42,067\n對不對那人才的養成不是我今天推出這個政策明天就會產出AI人才出來那要人才的養成要從什麼時候開始培養要從什麼時候開始做要跟哪一些單位合作那我看到蕭副總統在今年的一月份\n\n17\n00:05:43,268 --> 00:06:03,500\n他去參加這個AI人才高峰會他也特別提到這所謂的這些國發會提出了AI治理框架是不是我們應該要有一些跨部會的協同我覺得教育部是一個很重要的部會是的在我們的AI十大建設裡面有其中有人才是我們的數位基盤之一\n\n18\n00:06:04,540 --> 00:06:23,084\n那這個部分會結合到國家人才競爭力跟教育部整合還有跟速發部經濟部在社會教育上的整合對好那所以在這一個部分到底國發會是主導的單位呢還是是教育部是主導的單位由誰來統整主導我昨天看到這一個新聞這個揮打\n\n19\n00:06:26,005 --> 00:06:51,406\n要進駐北市科但是呢大家現在統整起來根據人力銀行的調查統整起來我們的AI人才是供不應求那所謂的AI人才供不應求那這個很可能你要從外面攬財進來那就牽涉到我們今天的修法夠不夠誘因讓這些人進來第二個就剛剛我跟您提到的AI人工智慧島我們自己去育成我們需要的人才\n\n20\n00:06:51,966 --> 00:07:18,206\n把这些人才从台湾从高中国中国小大家开始培养起来那这一些整体的整个大的政策范围整个教育范围整个涵盖面是国发会会主导吗还是谁会来主导目前这整体的AI十大建设是由国发会提出所以由国发会来主导是已经确定了那这个人才的部分也会我们会来整合各部会的做法\n\n21\n00:07:19,186 --> 00:07:47,894\n你們大概會從什麼時候開始做跟教育部的溝通協調比如說要如何往下扎根把這些整個AI的教育往下扎根那是什麼時候會開始左手進行我們從去年其實就開始我們成立了一個12個部會的國家論財競爭力的這個會議那教育部長都會到那另外其實還有一塊剛剛委員特別提到的就是我們也發現一件事外國人進來以後我們沒有足夠的友善生活環境\n\n22\n00:07:48,254 --> 00:08:10,415\n是所以我們也融合在雙語政策的部分我們跟外教育部我們兩邊合作我們是偏社會舉個例子我們會將來會讓55688有英文的讓外國人叫車比較方便那我們也會補助各個夜市我們跟地方政府合作去補助那我們會有各項活動包括醫院我們現在都已經有雙語那我們希望2030年有70%的地方\n\n23\n00:08:13,218 --> 00:08:35,480\n像區公所之類的可以有英文服務所以我們都有一個計畫在把這個友善環境給打開那另外外國人有一個抱怨就是說他來到台灣他找不到一個community能夠去問東問西的所以我們也會建這個community在我們的TalentTaiwan的辦公室裡面所以我們希望把這個都做整體性的把它整理出來\n\n24\n00:08:36,121 --> 00:08:50,134\n所以這個主委這個非常好這就我剛剛跟您提到就是說這些人來了之後到底政府有沒有去關心過他們我所關心就是說你有沒有實際跟他們對談過了解他的生活需求是什麼他的困難點是什麼\n\n25\n00:08:51,195 --> 00:09:16,220\n他覺得有哪一些東西是他可以在台灣貢獻或者是有哪一些東西他認為台灣其實在配套制度面上是可以在更精進可以做得更好然後讓這些人來到了台灣之後他是願意留在台灣願意生活在這裡的我們要把他當成是一家人所以您剛剛講的這個就是大概比較生活面的部分讓雙語讓英文進入到\n\n26\n00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:47,052\n他的生活還有他們子女的就學也是他們比較煩惱的所以如果這些東西我大概比較期待就是說你們能夠儘早儘速把整體的AI人工智慧島的這一些整體的計畫包括向下扎根的教育的部分這個可能要教育部提出來但是我不知道教育部什麼時候會會把這個部分完成但是我們期待這個部分應該是要開始趕快著手去進行\n\n27\n00:09:47,552 --> 00:10:06,978\n這個已經其實我們在兩週前已經找教育部在談怎麼樣去扎根我們的學校的AI跟文化教育我們就希望把這個部分做強化OK好謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝邱映穎邱委員那我們下一位請\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n798\t3086\t謝主席我請一下這個劉主委國發會好請國發會劉主委\n12389\t33903\t主委早主委早主委我想我們今天在討論這個國外專業人才纜財的這個延攬跟僱用的修正草案那這個草案其實我們經過很多各種不同的版本各種不同的討論所以你們有沒有稍微去做過一下盤整包括做過一些整理到底從這個法案\n34944\t64224\t第一次三讀通過一直到現在它的成效到底如何它的KPI是怎樣那我們現在要提出來的這一些修法我想每一個人都希望能夠多延攬一些外國人才我們都希望能夠放寬那到底你們有沒有去做過整理現行的規定對於國外人才到台灣來的誘因甚至方便度到底足不足我們如果這樣子修了之後\n65626\t88127\t你覺得會增加他們來台灣的機會會增加多少謝謝委員我們有做過統計我們到2025年的4月底外國專業人才得到有效許可的有55,677人那外國特定專業人才也累積了18,430人那留在台灣有多少\n90305\t105401\t留在台灣的能夠真的留下來的他可能申請來了一段時間就走還是說他來了之後他可以一直留在這裡跟公司在做互動比如說有可能從A公司到B公司這也是有可能啊留下來的會有多少\n107426\t129795\t你可能現在沒有數字啦這個主委您可以再回去稍微整理一下我其實比較想要知道就是說我們讓法令通過擴大我們放寬那真正能夠延攬到他們真的能夠把他們留在台灣的機率的這個數字是會有多少\n131125\t153892\t這些我不曉得你們有沒有算過包括就業金卡我們也一直在講就業金卡的申請過去就業金卡的申請也是手續繁複那我們現在也一再的在放寬這些限制那就業金卡申請到了之後這些申請就業金卡的人他有沒有辦法真的很安心的留在台灣工作就業\n155552\t174542\t這些數字你們到底有沒有那有沒有跟這些人做過比如說座談會啦或者是了解他們的需求或者是了解他們的困難度那作為我們未來在提案修正上面的一個很重要的參考指標所以我相信我這樣問您看起來\n176304\t196383\t好像並不是很清楚有有有我跟您報告一下就業金卡的部分其實我們有做過統計我目前是13000多張的就業金卡那其中有48%目前是留在台灣那另外有其中有有將近3000多張是6個月沒有\n197203\t214470\t沒有進出 剩下的都還會有進出的部分那我們特別檢討幾件事情所以你說留下來48%那還是不到那就沒有五成啦那是常駐留台喔那有一部分是Travel base那六個月沒有往來就是六個月沒有再進出台灣的喔\n215450\t229995\t那大概有3600多位他是六個月沒有進出的那這個有沒有辦法去了解到底為什麼有 我們其實有他是覺得台灣其實不太適合他的不太適合他的生存不太 這整個工作環境\n230635\t252882\t他並不適應啦還是法條太多太繁雜其實我真的覺得我們很多的規定實在是太多太繁雜那搞到這一些這些申請就業金卡的人很多都是在美國長大或者是在其他歐美地區長大的他會覺得我都不知道要去找哪一條法條才能真正幫助到他我覺得這是我們在法令制定上面的一個困境\n253522\t276442\t我們總是希望能夠嚴格管理結果那個管理那個法條已經多如牛毛多到可能搞不好連你們自己都不知道要去依照哪一個法條去做申請所以我其實是比較建議我們在做放寬我當然支持所謂的專業人才的這個放寬但是在很多法條放寬的部分其實你們應該要去修正一些\n277823\t296555\t不要把那個法令的東西搞得太複雜這個是我期待那個國發會能夠去做一些統整真的能夠把好的人才帶進來台灣而且讓他願意留在台灣發展第二個這個主委要跟您談到人工智慧島\n297435\t319384\t的這個大政策這個是未來國家的願景那這個過去國發會也講過說我們未來要在設定在2040年要達到15兆的產值人工智慧島跟剛剛我們提到的纜財其實他有一點異曲同步就是說他需要很多的人才庫\n320564\t342067\t對不對那人才的養成不是我今天推出這個政策明天就會產出AI人才出來那要人才的養成要從什麼時候開始培養要從什麼時候開始做要跟哪一些單位合作那我看到蕭副總統在今年的一月份\n343268\t363500\t他去參加這個AI人才高峰會他也特別提到這所謂的這些國發會提出了AI治理框架是不是我們應該要有一些跨部會的協同我覺得教育部是一個很重要的部會是的在我們的AI十大建設裡面有其中有人才是我們的數位基盤之一\n364540\t383084\t那這個部分會結合到國家人才競爭力跟教育部整合還有跟速發部經濟部在社會教育上的整合對好那所以在這一個部分到底國發會是主導的單位呢還是是教育部是主導的單位由誰來統整主導我昨天看到這一個新聞這個揮打\n386005\t411406\t要進駐北市科但是呢大家現在統整起來根據人力銀行的調查統整起來我們的AI人才是供不應求那所謂的AI人才供不應求那這個很可能你要從外面攬財進來那就牽涉到我們今天的修法夠不夠誘因讓這些人進來第二個就剛剛我跟您提到的AI人工智慧島我們自己去育成我們需要的人才\n411966\t438206\t把这些人才从台湾从高中国中国小大家开始培养起来那这一些整体的整个大的政策范围整个教育范围整个涵盖面是国发会会主导吗还是谁会来主导目前这整体的AI十大建设是由国发会提出所以由国发会来主导是已经确定了那这个人才的部分也会我们会来整合各部会的做法\n439186\t467894\t你們大概會從什麼時候開始做跟教育部的溝通協調比如說要如何往下扎根把這些整個AI的教育往下扎根那是什麼時候會開始左手進行我們從去年其實就開始我們成立了一個12個部會的國家論財競爭力的這個會議那教育部長都會到那另外其實還有一塊剛剛委員特別提到的就是我們也發現一件事外國人進來以後我們沒有足夠的友善生活環境\n468254\t490415\t是所以我們也融合在雙語政策的部分我們跟外教育部我們兩邊合作我們是偏社會舉個例子我們會將來會讓55688有英文的讓外國人叫車比較方便那我們也會補助各個夜市我們跟地方政府合作去補助那我們會有各項活動包括醫院我們現在都已經有雙語那我們希望2030年有70%的地方\n493218\t515480\t像區公所之類的可以有英文服務所以我們都有一個計畫在把這個友善環境給打開那另外外國人有一個抱怨就是說他來到台灣他找不到一個community能夠去問東問西的所以我們也會建這個community在我們的Talent Taiwan的辦公室裡面所以我們希望把這個都做整體性的把它整理出來\n516121\t530134\t所以這個主委這個非常好這就我剛剛跟您提到就是說這些人來了之後到底政府有沒有去關心過他們我所關心就是說你有沒有實際跟他們對談過了解他的生活需求是什麼他的困難點是什麼\n531195\t556220\t他覺得有哪一些東西是他可以在台灣貢獻或者是有哪一些東西他認為台灣其實在配套制度面上是可以在更精進可以做得更好然後讓這些人來到了台灣之後他是願意留在台灣願意生活在這裡的我們要把他當成是一家人所以您剛剛講的這個就是大概比較生活面的部分讓雙語讓英文進入到\n558840\t587052\t他的生活還有他們子女的就學也是他們比較煩惱的所以如果這些東西我大概比較期待就是說你們能夠儘早儘速把整體的AI人工智慧島的這一些整體的計畫包括向下扎根的教育的部分這個可能要教育部提出來但是我不知道教育部什麼時候會會把這個部分完成但是我們期待這個部分應該是要開始趕快著手去進行\n587552\t606978\t這個已經 其實我們在兩週前已經找教育部在談怎麼樣去扎根我們的學校的AI跟文化教育我們就希望把這個部分做強化OK 好 謝謝謝謝委員好 謝謝邱映穎 邱委員那我們下一位請\n","txt":"謝主席我請一下這個劉主委國發會好請國發會劉主委\n主委早主委早主委我想我們今天在討論這個國外專業人才纜財的這個延攬跟僱用的修正草案那這個草案其實我們經過很多各種不同的版本各種不同的討論所以你們有沒有稍微去做過一下盤整包括做過一些整理到底從這個法案\n第一次三讀通過一直到現在它的成效到底如何它的KPI是怎樣那我們現在要提出來的這一些修法我想每一個人都希望能夠多延攬一些外國人才我們都希望能夠放寬那到底你們有沒有去做過整理現行的規定對於國外人才到台灣來的誘因甚至方便度到底足不足我們如果這樣子修了之後\n你覺得會增加他們來台灣的機會會增加多少謝謝委員我們有做過統計我們到2025年的4月底外國專業人才得到有效許可的有55,677人那外國特定專業人才也累積了18,430人那留在台灣有多少\n留在台灣的能夠真的留下來的他可能申請來了一段時間就走還是說他來了之後他可以一直留在這裡跟公司在做互動比如說有可能從A公司到B公司這也是有可能啊留下來的會有多少\n你可能現在沒有數字啦這個主委您可以再回去稍微整理一下我其實比較想要知道就是說我們讓法令通過擴大我們放寬那真正能夠延攬到他們真的能夠把他們留在台灣的機率的這個數字是會有多少\n這些我不曉得你們有沒有算過包括就業金卡我們也一直在講就業金卡的申請過去就業金卡的申請也是手續繁複那我們現在也一再的在放寬這些限制那就業金卡申請到了之後這些申請就業金卡的人他有沒有辦法真的很安心的留在台灣工作就業\n這些數字你們到底有沒有那有沒有跟這些人做過比如說座談會啦或者是了解他們的需求或者是了解他們的困難度那作為我們未來在提案修正上面的一個很重要的參考指標所以我相信我這樣問您看起來\n好像並不是很清楚有有有我跟您報告一下就業金卡的部分其實我們有做過統計我目前是13000多張的就業金卡那其中有48%目前是留在台灣那另外有其中有有將近3000多張是6個月沒有\n沒有進出 剩下的都還會有進出的部分那我們特別檢討幾件事情所以你說留下來48%那還是不到那就沒有五成啦那是常駐留台喔那有一部分是Travel base那六個月沒有往來就是六個月沒有再進出台灣的喔\n那大概有3600多位他是六個月沒有進出的那這個有沒有辦法去了解到底為什麼有 我們其實有他是覺得台灣其實不太適合他的不太適合他的生存不太 這整個工作環境\n他並不適應啦還是法條太多太繁雜其實我真的覺得我們很多的規定實在是太多太繁雜那搞到這一些這些申請就業金卡的人很多都是在美國長大或者是在其他歐美地區長大的他會覺得我都不知道要去找哪一條法條才能真正幫助到他我覺得這是我們在法令制定上面的一個困境\n我們總是希望能夠嚴格管理結果那個管理那個法條已經多如牛毛多到可能搞不好連你們自己都不知道要去依照哪一個法條去做申請所以我其實是比較建議我們在做放寬我當然支持所謂的專業人才的這個放寬但是在很多法條放寬的部分其實你們應該要去修正一些\n不要把那個法令的東西搞得太複雜這個是我期待那個國發會能夠去做一些統整真的能夠把好的人才帶進來台灣而且讓他願意留在台灣發展第二個這個主委要跟您談到人工智慧島\n的這個大政策這個是未來國家的願景那這個過去國發會也講過說我們未來要在設定在2040年要達到15兆的產值人工智慧島跟剛剛我們提到的纜財其實他有一點異曲同步就是說他需要很多的人才庫\n對不對那人才的養成不是我今天推出這個政策明天就會產出AI人才出來那要人才的養成要從什麼時候開始培養要從什麼時候開始做要跟哪一些單位合作那我看到蕭副總統在今年的一月份\n他去參加這個AI人才高峰會他也特別提到這所謂的這些國發會提出了AI治理框架是不是我們應該要有一些跨部會的協同我覺得教育部是一個很重要的部會是的在我們的AI十大建設裡面有其中有人才是我們的數位基盤之一\n那這個部分會結合到國家人才競爭力跟教育部整合還有跟速發部經濟部在社會教育上的整合對好那所以在這一個部分到底國發會是主導的單位呢還是是教育部是主導的單位由誰來統整主導我昨天看到這一個新聞這個揮打\n要進駐北市科但是呢大家現在統整起來根據人力銀行的調查統整起來我們的AI人才是供不應求那所謂的AI人才供不應求那這個很可能你要從外面攬財進來那就牽涉到我們今天的修法夠不夠誘因讓這些人進來第二個就剛剛我跟您提到的AI人工智慧島我們自己去育成我們需要的人才\n把这些人才从台湾从高中国中国小大家开始培养起来那这一些整体的整个大的政策范围整个教育范围整个涵盖面是国发会会主导吗还是谁会来主导目前这整体的AI十大建设是由国发会提出所以由国发会来主导是已经确定了那这个人才的部分也会我们会来整合各部会的做法\n你們大概會從什麼時候開始做跟教育部的溝通協調比如說要如何往下扎根把這些整個AI的教育往下扎根那是什麼時候會開始左手進行我們從去年其實就開始我們成立了一個12個部會的國家論財競爭力的這個會議那教育部長都會到那另外其實還有一塊剛剛委員特別提到的就是我們也發現一件事外國人進來以後我們沒有足夠的友善生活環境\n是所以我們也融合在雙語政策的部分我們跟外教育部我們兩邊合作我們是偏社會舉個例子我們會將來會讓55688有英文的讓外國人叫車比較方便那我們也會補助各個夜市我們跟地方政府合作去補助那我們會有各項活動包括醫院我們現在都已經有雙語那我們希望2030年有70%的地方\n像區公所之類的可以有英文服務所以我們都有一個計畫在把這個友善環境給打開那另外外國人有一個抱怨就是說他來到台灣他找不到一個community能夠去問東問西的所以我們也會建這個community在我們的Talent 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