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00:02:26,918\n那這個部分我想已經不是能不能發射衛星的一個問題它可能還牽扯到我們到底能不能夠由台灣這邊來自主監控那能不能夠及時處理能不能夠安全協作那這個部分我想在我們的太空法制的一個建制的一個制度上我不曉得這個國客會這邊有沒有一個比較確定的\n\n8\n00:02:27,538 --> 00:02:51,774\n進程或者是目前我們的規劃還有我們的發展大概是怎麼樣可以請這個副主委來說明一下嗎因為部會有分工那比較屬於國安方面的基本上這部分應該是由速發部跟國安會在負責我們的部分主要還是在一些前瞻的科研還有如何帶動低軌道衛星的產業這是我們要負責的部分\n\n9\n00:02:52,274 --> 00:03:21,349\n剛剛有說我們要跟國外來做合作吧那我們在跟國外做合作的同時我們能不能夠跟國際合作當中掌握我們自己本身的主導權這個部分是是那個委員講得很好基本上我們在跟國外談的時候因為到時候有一些臨時的需求我們的量沒有那麼大的時候一定要跟國外租用所以我們在跟他談的時候一定要談到這個主權也就是說我們在衛星在指揮上在使用上的控制權我們是必須要有自己的主權\n\n10\n00:03:21,969 --> 00:03:42,539\n所以這個是我們部分可以一定是可以掌握的對不對我們一定跟他們談的時候一定要掌握這方面的主權基本上在國際上還是有競爭不是一家獨大是是是好那接下來其實我比較想要就是請問我們的這個副主委就是包含我們的太空科技人才的這個部分了不管是人才的培育也好或者是我們在\n\n11\n00:03:42,979 --> 00:03:47,660\n引進國外的這個優秀的人才進到台灣我想這個昨天這個相關的產官學的代表特別齊聚在我們台灣離太空最近的地方就是我們跟太空最接近的地方就是我們的屏東那我們大概也都知道就是在我們的這個3月今年今年3月我們國家正式的發射場域我們也確定要落腳在這個屏東的九棚村\n\n12\n00:04:09,544 --> 00:04:22,057\n那我想這個地方政府其實是大力的在應該是說他們高度的一個投入但是呢其實也衍生出來有很多人力上的一個需求人才上面的一個需求那麼這些需求其實還包含所謂的這個熱控啦材料啦或者是研發啦設計啦甚至軌道的這個模擬的一些人才\n\n13\n00:04:30,686 --> 00:04:49,401\n那這個部分我們有沒有什麼樣一個近期的規劃因為我們知道其實台灣在這個79年11月就已經成立了國家太空科技發展長期計畫的規劃小組那我們的國客會當然也設立了我們這個國家太空中心那目前其實已經是進入到這個第三期的部分了\n\n14\n00:04:49,861 --> 00:05:08,322\n那我想人才培訓的部分其實是我們非常希望能夠知道也希望能夠積極來做這樣子的一個不管是人才的培育跟產官學上面的一個合作那這個部分我們有沒有一個比較進程的一個目前大概是進入到什麼樣的一個階段是不是請副主委也可以說明\n\n15\n00:05:08,823 --> 00:05:31,158\n那個跟委員報告基本上國科會比較是屬於這個太空科技人才的培育所以我們有開一些短期班那另一方面我們有跟經濟部合作就是在業界所需要的人才是由經濟部來培育然後最重要是教育部的部分我們目前國科會跟太空中心跟教育部已經合作成立了五間太空研究所\n\n16\n00:05:31,858 --> 00:05:58,303\n那這方面就是如同委員講的前瞻科技的研究不管是材料啦還有他一些前瞻的技術的人才的培育是非常的重要的所以目前都有按照我們的規劃進行當中都有按照規劃進行當中那我舉個例子來講像我們的太空事務青年人才的選訓計畫那有沒有規劃產學合作實作的一些平台有實作的一個平台嗎目前\n\n17\n00:06:01,460 --> 00:06:01,600\n貨心供應\n\n18\n00:06:09,168 --> 00:06:32,298\n請吳主任我們其實非常積極跟你委員講的太空選訓其實都有持續在互動我們再看有沒有機會其實前幾天新聞剛有報導一位中央大學的他現在要去歐洲參加這個startup他其實就是從這邊出來從這個選訓工作授訓出來的所以我們持續有在做這個\n\n19\n00:06:33,378 --> 00:06:54,665\n因為今天時間的關係我想時間真的是不夠啦但是有一些如果有這個比較進程的一些規劃跟計畫或者是確實已經在執行的部分是不是可以提供給我們的辦公室因為我們其實也蠻想知道就是國科會目前有沒有一些實際的做法讓這些人才不管是參與他海外的一些實習也好或者是來駐外的單位的一些交流\n\n20\n00:06:55,825 --> 00:06:59,467\n那經營部再接受所謂的這個國際的訓練或者是技術上的一個培養等等這些確實的計畫再提供給我們辦公室好嗎好可以好謝謝副主委謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n89\t18613\t以及資通安全關鍵領主還有太空科技那我想台灣的這個太空科技這個角色其實也進入到另外一個非常重要的一個關鍵的時刻那我們所知道的就是首批有六顆的低軌衛星當中其實我們的第一顆預計是在2027年要發射這個時程會延後嗎還是會準時會如期\n25074\t46243\t好 那我想要再加問的就是說這些所謂的這個低軌衛星有沒有在設定上就是他們的任務的設定上有沒有跟比方說像防災中心或者是海巡署 農委會或者是其他的一些比較相關的一些部門來建立所謂的這個需求的一個界面還是我們就是只有停留在這個科研的階段\n47857\t70837\t我們也有跟經濟部等跨部會的合作基本上它還是屬於實驗性的衛星主要是做一些技術上的驗證還有一些培育我們在低軌衛星方面的產業所以目前都應該嚴格上來講算是在科研階段可以這麼說嗎\n72541\t79744\tEAEB4在科研階段後面有4顆2加4後面4顆就是衛星製造平台這個是我們希望可以培養國內有兩家衛星的系統整合商\n90811\t103888\t裡面我們的RFP會讓他們一定要跟國際大廠合作所以這是我們的設計所以希望以後國內有比較完整的系統商也有做原件的廠商這樣整個生態系會比較健康完整\n104437\t122719\t那既然我們要跟國外合作其實真的就扣到另外一個這個我想要詢問的一些主題了就是我想這個太空應該是下一個戰略科技的戰場我想這個大家其實都不否認那制度上的規劃就不能只是所謂的附屬的一個工具了那其實它也跟這個國安緊緊相扣\n123780\t146918\t那這個部分我想已經不是能不能發射衛星的一個問題它可能還牽扯到我們到底能不能夠由台灣這邊來自主監控那能不能夠及時處理能不能夠安全協作那這個部分我想在我們的太空法制的一個建制的一個制度上我不曉得這個國客會這邊有沒有一個比較確定的\n147538\t171774\t進程或者是目前我們的規劃還有我們的發展大概是怎麼樣可以請這個副主委來說明一下嗎因為部會有分工那比較屬於國安方面的基本上這部分應該是由速發部跟國安會在負責我們的部分主要還是在一些前瞻的科研還有如何帶動低軌道衛星的產業這是我們要負責的部分\n172274\t201349\t剛剛有說我們要跟國外來做合作吧那我們在跟國外做合作的同時我們能不能夠跟國際合作當中掌握我們自己本身的主導權這個部分是是 那個委員講得很好基本上我們在跟國外談的時候因為到時候有一些臨時的需求我們的量沒有那麼大的時候一定要跟國外租用所以我們在跟他談的時候一定要談到這個主權也就是說我們在衛星在指揮上在使用上的控制權我們是必須要有自己的主權\n201969\t222539\t所以這個是我們部分可以一定是可以掌握的對不對我們一定跟他們談的時候一定要掌握這方面的主權基本上在國際上還是有競爭不是一家獨大是是是好那接下來其實我比較想要就是請問我們的這個副主委就是包含我們的太空科技人才的這個部分了不管是人才的培育也好或者是我們在\n222979\t227660\t引進國外的這個優秀的人才進到台灣我想這個昨天這個相關的產官學的代表特別齊聚在我們台灣離太空最近的地方就是我們跟太空最接近的地方就是我們的屏東那我們大概也都知道就是在我們的這個3月今年今年3月我們國家正式的發射場域我們也確定要落腳在這個屏東的九棚村\n249544\t262057\t那我想這個地方政府其實是大力的在應該是說他們高度的一個投入但是呢其實也衍生出來有很多人力上的一個需求人才上面的一個需求那麼這些需求其實還包含所謂的這個熱控啦材料啦或者是研發啦設計啦甚至軌道的這個模擬的一些人才\n270686\t289401\t那這個部分我們有沒有什麼樣一個近期的規劃因為我們知道其實台灣在這個79年11月就已經成立了國家太空科技發展長期計畫的規劃小組那我們的國客會當然也設立了我們這個國家太空中心那目前其實已經是進入到這個第三期的部分了\n289861\t308322\t那我想人才培訓的部分其實是我們非常希望能夠知道也希望能夠積極來做這樣子的一個不管是人才的培育跟產官學上面的一個合作那這個部分我們有沒有一個比較進程的一個目前大概是進入到什麼樣的一個階段是不是請副主委也可以說明\n308823\t331158\t那個跟委員報告 基本上國科會比較是屬於這個太空科技人才的培育所以我們有開一些短期班那另一方面我們有跟經濟部合作就是在業界所需要的人才是由經濟部來培育然後最重要是教育部的部分我們目前國科會跟太空中心跟教育部已經合作成立了五間太空研究所\n331858\t358303\t那這方面就是如同委員講的前瞻科技的研究不管是材料啦還有他一些前瞻的技術的人才的培育是非常的重要的所以目前都有按照我們的規劃進行當中都有按照規劃進行當中那我舉個例子來講像我們的太空事務青年人才的選訓計畫那有沒有規劃產學合作實作的一些平台有實作的一個平台嗎目前\n361460\t361600\t貨心供應\n369168\t392298\t請吳主任我們其實非常積極跟你委員講的太空選訓其實都有持續在互動我們再看有沒有機會其實前幾天新聞剛有報導一位中央大學的他現在要去歐洲參加這個startup他其實就是從這邊出來從這個選訓工作授訓出來的所以我們持續有在做這個\n393378\t414665\t因為今天時間的關係我想時間真的是不夠啦但是有一些如果有這個比較進程的一些規劃跟計畫或者是確實已經在執行的部分是不是可以提供給我們的辦公室因為我們其實也蠻想知道就是國科會目前有沒有一些實際的做法讓這些人才不管是參與他海外的一些實習也好或者是來駐外的單位的一些交流\n415825\t419467\t那經營部再接受所謂的這個國際的訓練或者是技術上的一個培養等等這些確實的計畫再提供給我們辦公室好嗎好 可以好 謝謝副主委謝謝主席\n","txt":"以及資通安全關鍵領主還有太空科技那我想台灣的這個太空科技這個角色其實也進入到另外一個非常重要的一個關鍵的時刻那我們所知道的就是首批有六顆的低軌衛星當中其實我們的第一顆預計是在2027年要發射這個時程會延後嗎還是會準時會如期\n好 那我想要再加問的就是說這些所謂的這個低軌衛星有沒有在設定上就是他們的任務的設定上有沒有跟比方說像防災中心或者是海巡署 農委會或者是其他的一些比較相關的一些部門來建立所謂的這個需求的一個界面還是我們就是只有停留在這個科研的階段\n我們也有跟經濟部等跨部會的合作基本上它還是屬於實驗性的衛星主要是做一些技術上的驗證還有一些培育我們在低軌衛星方面的產業所以目前都應該嚴格上來講算是在科研階段可以這麼說嗎\nEAEB4在科研階段後面有4顆2加4後面4顆就是衛星製造平台這個是我們希望可以培養國內有兩家衛星的系統整合商\n裡面我們的RFP會讓他們一定要跟國際大廠合作所以這是我們的設計所以希望以後國內有比較完整的系統商也有做原件的廠商這樣整個生態系會比較健康完整\n那既然我們要跟國外合作其實真的就扣到另外一個這個我想要詢問的一些主題了就是我想這個太空應該是下一個戰略科技的戰場我想這個大家其實都不否認那制度上的規劃就不能只是所謂的附屬的一個工具了那其實它也跟這個國安緊緊相扣\n那這個部分我想已經不是能不能發射衛星的一個問題它可能還牽扯到我們到底能不能夠由台灣這邊來自主監控那能不能夠及時處理能不能夠安全協作那這個部分我想在我們的太空法制的一個建制的一個制度上我不曉得這個國客會這邊有沒有一個比較確定的\n進程或者是目前我們的規劃還有我們的發展大概是怎麼樣可以請這個副主委來說明一下嗎因為部會有分工那比較屬於國安方面的基本上這部分應該是由速發部跟國安會在負責我們的部分主要還是在一些前瞻的科研還有如何帶動低軌道衛星的產業這是我們要負責的部分\n剛剛有說我們要跟國外來做合作吧那我們在跟國外做合作的同時我們能不能夠跟國際合作當中掌握我們自己本身的主導權這個部分是是 那個委員講得很好基本上我們在跟國外談的時候因為到時候有一些臨時的需求我們的量沒有那麼大的時候一定要跟國外租用所以我們在跟他談的時候一定要談到這個主權也就是說我們在衛星在指揮上在使用上的控制權我們是必須要有自己的主權\n所以這個是我們部分可以一定是可以掌握的對不對我們一定跟他們談的時候一定要掌握這方面的主權基本上在國際上還是有競爭不是一家獨大是是是好那接下來其實我比較想要就是請問我們的這個副主委就是包含我們的太空科技人才的這個部分了不管是人才的培育也好或者是我們在\n引進國外的這個優秀的人才進到台灣我想這個昨天這個相關的產官學的代表特別齊聚在我們台灣離太空最近的地方就是我們跟太空最接近的地方就是我們的屏東那我們大概也都知道就是在我們的這個3月今年今年3月我們國家正式的發射場域我們也確定要落腳在這個屏東的九棚村\n那我想這個地方政府其實是大力的在應該是說他們高度的一個投入但是呢其實也衍生出來有很多人力上的一個需求人才上面的一個需求那麼這些需求其實還包含所謂的這個熱控啦材料啦或者是研發啦設計啦甚至軌道的這個模擬的一些人才\n那這個部分我們有沒有什麼樣一個近期的規劃因為我們知道其實台灣在這個79年11月就已經成立了國家太空科技發展長期計畫的規劃小組那我們的國客會當然也設立了我們這個國家太空中心那目前其實已經是進入到這個第三期的部分了\n那我想人才培訓的部分其實是我們非常希望能夠知道也希望能夠積極來做這樣子的一個不管是人才的培育跟產官學上面的一個合作那這個部分我們有沒有一個比較進程的一個目前大概是進入到什麼樣的一個階段是不是請副主委也可以說明\n那個跟委員報告 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