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00:02:37,393\n辦公室也有去看一下你們招募的情況這是104人力銀行你們有在104人力銀行招了很多職缺可是你仔細去看每一個職缺的應聘人都是零人沒有人來應聘\n\n8\n00:02:41,247 --> 00:02:54,834\n那太空中心這邊回覆是講說113年緣額486人都已經招滿了在去年底只招滿那114年今年的緣額要增加55人那5月底的目前是再值是500人還要再招聘41人\n\n9\n00:02:56,295 --> 00:03:16,005\n我不知道說我們昨天有稍微了解一下好像你們的回覆是說因為薪資大概是4到6萬跟竹科的競爭力比較差就要可以吸引一些不用加班可以準時上下班的人來上班昨天你們私下的回覆是這樣不知道說你們有沒有什麼應聘的策略請吳主任\n\n10\n00:03:17,266 --> 00:03:40,119\n這可能委員看到的這些是今年剛上去的去年是整個都已經完全拼完拼了這看到是今年的第二個是我們今年還要再招四十一人嘛我們今年還有五十五個現在已經還剩四十一嘛對對對持續因為就在interview我們吸引的人才是比較特殊因為\n\n11\n00:03:40,939 --> 00:04:06,979\n因為現在在台灣的太空經濟規模還是很小所以我們吸引了大概大概在10%的年輕人對太空有興趣的我是提醒一下啦因為你看下一頁我們這個賴總統五月的時候才去新竹視察太空中心福威八號的進展的情況嘛那這個福威八號也是第三期國家太空科技發展長城計畫的第一個計畫賴總統也是對這個寄予厚望啦\n\n12\n00:04:07,739 --> 00:04:19,386\n就是說政府會從法制預算人才等面向激起發展所以人才這一塊是非常重要的我覺得也是提醒你們一下那另外問一個問題你看一下這一頁福衛一號二號\n\n13\n00:04:22,776 --> 00:04:39,971\n那時候是李登輝總統還有陳水扁總統當時發射可是你看那個火箭外面都有我們中華民國的國旗都有我們中華民國的國旗然後到了蔡英文總統時代福衛五號上面我們的國旗就不見了\n\n14\n00:04:40,832 --> 00:05:02,548\n取而代之的是一些有我們台灣意向的像台灣藍雀、天燈、101大樓、蘭花稻米等台灣意向那當時國會也有辦一個全國兒童的征途比賽我覺得也都很好啦把台灣的意向發射到天空但是就沒有了我們的國旗那當時\n\n15\n00:05:04,229 --> 00:05:23,160\n政府的說法啦是講說呃...好像從...從福衛三...呃...說後來有頒布說除了美國以外的國家都禁止在火箭外殼放置國旗所以從福衛三號開始我們就改用台灣意向的文字或圖像取代有這回事嗎?\n\n16\n00:05:24,389 --> 00:05:36,198\n跟委員報告那基本上因為一個火箭上面會有非常多的籌載我們的只是其中的一小部分所以我覺得這個事情應該是主因啦那細節是不是請吳主任說一下\n\n17\n00:05:36,843 --> 00:05:59,970\n我想他們現在的原則都是放mission任務的logo另外一個剛剛就像付諸維族任務的logo什麼意思就像剛剛上面的右邊的那個圖不是國旗啦現在比較少除非這個整個火箭裡面在的籌載幾乎都是我們為主因為現在我們的衛星在這樣的市裡面不是最主要的\n\n18\n00:06:01,497 --> 00:06:26,795\n國旗不是最主要的不是你看總統在視察福威八號衛星的時候就也有提到你們也有提到說要讓台灣製造飛向宇宙啦那有一些台灣人印象也不錯我的意思是說為什麼沒有國旗呢好你看一下下一頁韓國的部分2020年7月20號韓國SpaceX有一個獵鷹九號的火箭成功成功將韓國的軍事衛星\n\n19\n00:06:29,614 --> 00:06:33,710\n升空啦啊這個是韓國的衛星它上面就有他們國旗的意象\n\n20\n00:06:34,588 --> 00:07:03,522\n對,我剛剛講過它是主要的籌載就是它整顆火箭裝的是韓國最主要的我們現在的是跟人家一起做但是這件事我們還沒有跟我們會跟他再談看看是沒有可能但是有沒有可能把我們的國旗放上去我們要想辦法跟他協商所以不是你們講的那樣啦什麼除了美國以外什麼禁止其他國家的國旗因為當時的說法是這樣沒有這個說法是這樣沒有這個說法,不是這個原因就對了\n\n21\n00:07:06,541 --> 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00:45.684\n我們要發展太空計畫,人才很重要我們昨天也有去了解一下你們現在培育人才的情形我們可以看到這個檔案上面你們總共是分四個部分來培養人才第一個是國科會質詢的部分,叫做基礎人才培育第二個是產業人才,這個是經濟部產業發展署執行的\n\n00:47.185 --> 00:55.884\n但是經濟部產業發展署執行的他不見得最後會投入到太空產業啦第三個也是一樣啦就是那個新創企業署執行部分也是一樣\n\n00:56.670 --> 01:13.855\n那重點應該是放在第四個就是有關於太空系統工程研究所那這部分是教育部質詢我看連續兩年114年5月是有入學100人那114年預計在招收79人換句話說會有179個比較相對專業的屬於這個領域人才那不知道說現在這個國客會對於我們人才招募有沒有一個比較精進的計畫有沒有\n\n01:27.488 --> 01:53.288\n那基本上委員看到的這些都是比較specific的就是我們要辦一些專班或者是成立太空研究所可是在前面一些理工人才的培育其實那些經費其實都有涵蓋因為他如果沒有前面這一段的養成教育其實這些比較specific的東西也事實上是沒有辦法執行的因為我看到你們國會有一些計畫譬如說像第一個太空基礎人才培育計畫\n\n01:54.289 --> 02:23.250\n那個計畫比較像是贏對的性質啊它像講座嘛辦個四天大家來看一看感覺是培養基礎的興趣啊但至於說它最後會不會投入這又是另外一回事啊所以我們是希望說把經費用在喔真正喔當然這個也沒有不排斥去辦啦培養一下基礎興趣也不錯只是說我們是不是應該花更多的心力啊在更專業的人才上面喔那現在像我們昨天我們\n\n02:24.588 --> 02:37.393\n辦公室也有去看一下你們招募的情況這是104人力銀行你們有在104人力銀行招了很多職缺可是你仔細去看每一個職缺的應聘人都是零人沒有人來應聘\n\n02:41.247 --> 02:54.834\n那太空中心這邊回覆是講說113年緣額486人都已經招滿了在去年底只招滿那114年今年的緣額要增加55人那5月底的目前是再值是500人還要再招聘41人\n\n02:56.295 --> 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