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00:00:55,595\n然後其實有些學校有建議啦說是不是應該政府要成立一些中繼組織讓他們從關戶所出來後可以先到這些中繼組織先接受一些輔導之後再讓他到學校那當時潘文忠部長還有那個之前還是陳建仁部長說他去年就會著手開始做這個事情\n\n3\n00:00:56,255 --> 00:01:10,126\n然後也有提到說全國有非常多的團體當時是說三十幾間團體啦後來可能還有在增加願意來做這個事然後要建構一個計畫那剛好今天委員會排這個題目啦所以我特別來問一下署長這個計畫現在進行得怎樣\n\n4\n00:01:13,869 --> 00:01:23,477\n國度性教育措施計畫在去年4月完成之後各縣市都有申辦目前全國各縣市都有申請22個點目前是照顧了大概超過20位以上的孩子\n\n5\n00:01:29,241 --> 00:01:50,797\n像新北市就有三位到五位類似這樣那目前我們追蹤每一位的孩子的處置情形那照顧的情況讓他在轉嫌的期間用評估的方式跟不同的課程那是目前是有效的不過我們還會持續擴大來辦理可能這個署長我覺得聽起來那個量能可能還要再擴充可能聽起來數量好像不太夠剛開始啟動所以繼續還有一個就是\n\n6\n00:01:57,862 --> 00:02:24,480\n盡量不要讓所有的這些從關戶所出來的少年讓他們聚在一起啦因為大家也會擔心說會變成一個犯罪大學可以用個別輔導那能不能也朝向這個方向去努力如果要擴充能量的話委員所提的觀點我們都會納入一起來處理所以說大概會不會大概還會不會你說一個初步算是一個示範計畫現在大家開始現在也不是示範已經是正式的正式計畫啦如果我們完成一年後我們會再檢視吧再檢視像委員剛剛的建議有法納入OK好謝謝\n\n7\n00:02:27,702 --> 00:02:55,703\n然後再來我跟那個警政署問一下因為我們都知道陳獨剛剛前面委員也有提到啦現在很多其實很多幫派都會到學校去吸收青少年嘛當然可能跟法律也有關係因為他們錢都可以突銷啦所以那這些幫派可能又跟詐騙集團就結合嘛然後所以很多學生就會當車手這也就是為什麼蠻多少年他是他會因為詐欺犯被辦的原因那我想說這部分其實少年隊應該要有一些角色\n\n8\n00:02:56,323 --> 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謝謝好 警政署 教育部你好兩位署長 我先請教一下國教署長去年曾經有關心過一個議題那時候還是潘文忠部長的時候就是說我們很多從關貨所出來的那些少年\n然後其實有些學校有建議啦說是不是應該政府要成立一些中繼組織讓他們從關戶所出來後可以先到這些中繼組織先接受一些輔導之後再讓他到學校那當時潘文忠部長還有那個之前還是陳建仁部長說他去年就會著手開始做這個事情\n然後也有提到說全國有非常多的團體當時是說三十幾間團體啦後來可能還有在增加願意來做這個事然後要建構一個計畫那剛好今天委員會排這個題目啦所以我特別來問一下署長這個計畫現在進行得怎樣\n國度性教育措施計畫在去年4月完成之後各縣市都有申辦目前全國各縣市都有申請22個點目前是照顧了大概超過20位以上的孩子\n像新北市就有三位到五位類似這樣那目前我們追蹤每一位的孩子的處置情形那照顧的情況讓他在轉嫌的期間用評估的方式跟不同的課程那是目前是有效的不過我們還會持續擴大來辦理可能這個署長我覺得聽起來那個量能可能還要再擴充可能聽起來數量好像不太夠剛開始啟動所以繼續還有一個就是\n盡量不要讓所有的這些從關戶所出來的少年讓他們聚在一起啦因為大家也會擔心說會變成一個犯罪大學可以用個別輔導那能不能也朝向這個方向去努力如果要擴充能量的話委員所提的觀點我們都會納入一起來處理所以說大概會不會大概還會不會你說一個初步算是一個示範計畫現在大家開始現在也不是示範已經是正式的正式計畫啦如果我們完成一年後我們會再檢視吧再檢視像委員剛剛的建議有法納入OK 好 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