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00:03:09,036\n那外務部也有就相關的社區的追蹤他的那個追蹤比例也有高達九成多跟七成多的了解好那麼聽起來就是你們只有在出校之後的一年之內你們可能會有聯繫有去追蹤這樣的一個少年可是就是對於他們之後有沒有再犯的這個情況你們就沒有再去持續的勾結相關的資料然後去了解\n\n8\n00:03:11,154 --> 00:03:31,651\n這個為什麼後來他們有可能會再犯因為我個人認為說在這個矯正學校裡面其實這樣安排很多課程心理輔導啊等等這些部分其實應該要更有效的能夠強化這些少年他們在學校裡面學習的這個成果就總希望說他們出校之後未來\n\n9\n00:03:32,712 --> 00:03:50,585\n這個能夠回歸正常進入到社會然後從事正常的這些工作或者就學等等而不會說之後又再犯所以這個部分的話我希望就是矯正署能夠可以未來加強在後續追蹤了解的這個狀況\n\n10\n00:03:55,523 --> 00:04:09,634\n我們有跟司法院來聯繫因為這些初校學生他有可能有一些什麼偏差行為他是會轉介到少母會或是保護觀察或是其他社會機構\n\n11\n00:04:11,135 --> 00:04:26,833\n他轉介出去以後他不會回到我們哨角校所以我們也沒有那個潛力可以去追蹤說他到底跑到哪邊去了除非他已經到哨角校可能要請王副秘書長從司法院角度來講的話對於這個青少年再犯的問題\n\n12\n00:04:32,130 --> 00:04:50,163\n就是有沒有過去到現在為止有一些更積極的作為去了解這個再犯少年的情況跟委員報告就是那個司法院這邊有的那個工具統計工具就是說他們從那個矯正學校那個出來之後不會有那個記錄那如果說他們再犯的話\n\n13\n00:04:51,243 --> 00:05:00,906\n會進到就是那個少年法院就是有觸法行為嘛又再一次進到那個法院來那他就會有一個那個記錄那我們都持續都有那個追蹤統計齁那從110年到113年從矯正學校少年出校之後的再進來的那個人數有31個人啊\n\n14\n00:05:09,508 --> 00:05:27,790\n那估計大概比例是4.26那但是也要跟委員報告就是說我們這個數據事實上是會有一部分有盲點的因為我少年呢他事實上就只有在那個18歲以下所以說他如果說是那個出去之後他已經是成年的那這部分數據我們就沒有辦法就從這邊去撈\n\n15\n00:05:29,728 --> 00:05:47,042\n以上所以如果說是從這個更要精進整個的這個少年的關懷還有再進入到矯正學校之後以及他的再犯這個相關的這個情況其實我認為說應該要再做一些研究了解否則的話就是\n\n16\n00:05:48,483 --> 00:06:10,795\n這個事實上就是從犯罪防的角度來看我覺得這也是有必要的所以我也希望就是司法院是不是之後能夠再把相關的問題然後這個開始委託的研究計畫可以做得更清楚那另外就是司法院這邊資料可能也要未來跟法務部或是矯正署這邊的資料能夠互相提供就是讓\n\n17\n00:06:11,815 --> 00:06:40,608\n整個的這個學生們他出校了之後再進入矯正學校之後出校之後他後續的情況如何我覺得這個時機上是有必要要去做研究分析的這個可以有效的來改善整個的我們的這個犯罪預防還有犯罪事後的矯正等等這些問題那接下來呢我還再請教的就是說因為其實在矯正學校裡面我們知道\n\n18\n00:06:41,812 --> 00:07:00,931\n老師們也很辛苦老師們謝謝王副秘書長也先請回矯正學校裡面的其實老師們也很辛苦我們在昨天的這個詢答的時候其實對於整個矯正機關人力不足的問題我們都有提到我們現在的借貨人力比基本上是過低應該是\n\n19\n00:07:04,153 --> 00:07:26,578\n應該是介護人力比其實跟其他國家相比較的話我們介護人力其實負擔很重那對於矯正學校的員工來說也是雖然說他們扮演的主要是像是導師、輔導教師等等這些角色那麼但是對於這些矯正學校的教職員的薪資、待遇等等那麼矯正署這邊有給他們一些特別的佳績嗎\n\n20\n00:07:29,596 --> 00:07:44,571\n有關家籍的部分我們一般的就是有分直接進入穿制服的或是外科室的教化人員我們有分直接危險津貼跟間接的危險津貼\n\n21\n00:07:46,613 --> 00:07:48,514\n這個部分當然我們將來會改為類似比照移民署這樣子分為三級到時候我們會看實際的情況有一些像教化人員我想這邊跟署長報告就是說其實呢你們那種加節的分類方法我不是那麼同意喔\n\n22\n00:08:05,140 --> 00:08:26,141\n就是依照所謂的危險的等級去給予加級我覺得這固然重要可是對於像是在教聖學校裡面的這個教職人員的輔導他們等於是一種特別的特殊的一種教育的方式而且他們可能所承受所承擔的教育的任務跟一般的學校的教育任務也不一樣\n\n23\n00:08:27,262 --> 00:08:41,205\n對我認為說這個部分可能可以思考就是給予他們一些特別的專業佳績我現在要請教就是教這學校的員工的他的離職率狀況如何他有沒有就是常常的他的流動率\n\n24\n00:08:42,062 --> 00:09:07,541\n他的離職率是很高報告委員我們有做全台的所謂的離職率的調查這個離職率有含等於辭職、商調還有退休的大概每一年可能是4.5%到5%之間的離職率那現在平均一個老師他是照顧多少的這個小鎮學校的這些學生們\n\n25\n00:09:08,471 --> 00:09:34,785\n如果以那個委員剛剛有提到那個專輔人力來講我們這裡面有很重要的特教老師特教老師的師生比現在是1比15但是我們理想我們要將來希望能夠達到1比8那如果要達到1比8我們還要爭取的言語我們有評估過大概還要增加10名所謂的特教老師\n\n26\n00:09:35,385 --> 00:09:51,483\n是我想特教老师的他的这个师生比如果是1比15的话那真的是非常高这个对于特教老师来讲他的身心压力各方面都会非常高那么我个人的想法是说基本上还是要积极的去争取\n\n27\n00:09:52,844 --> 00:10:05,723\n這個更多的名額那麼剛剛署長講說一比八可能我都覺得這個比例跟其他國家相比就還是算是偏高那麼當然就是說可能給直接先給誘因也很重要如果說我們給矯正學校裡面\n\n28\n00:10:09,027 --> 00:10:28,845\n教輔人員可以給他們更多的在薪資上面或是家籍上面的保障我相信可以吸引到更多不錯的師資來進入到矯正學校畢竟如果說在矯正學校裡面能夠好好的照顧這群青少年讓他們未來出校之後能夠改邪歸正\n\n29\n00:10:30,547 --> 00:10:38,365\n有更好的发展而不是又重新回到监狱或是这个小资学校我认为这样的投资是值得的\n\n30\n00:10:39,053 --> 00:11:02,359\n是報告委員在少角校我們這些老師也有所謂的學術獎勵會不過整個全體來講我們會針對業務的環雜度我們來盡量爭取少角校這些老師的一些津貼讓他能夠對於他這份工作珍惜能夠去來努力\n\n31\n00:11:02,739 --> 00:11:05,500\n聽到署長這樣的話我就放心了但是我還是希望說請你們可能給我一份就是相關的報告對於現在這些矯正學校那麼他的師資員額比以及就是對於這個新設人力還有教化人力等等在這些矯正學校裡面他實際的數據如何以及你們未來認為說哪些地方需要\n\n32\n00:11:27,672 --> 00:11:48,241\n檢討的要再給予這些矯正學校的相關的人力更多的津貼補貼那麼本席在這邊的話我承諾我可以幫助你們就去改善相關的一些學校以及教育環境A組委員多多支持謝謝委員對希望這個署長你可以兩個禮拜一個月之後給我這份報告好嗎好的好的好那就麻煩你了好謝謝好的\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6636\t32450\t好 謝謝主席 在這邊有請教政署的署長 周署長署長委員好因為時間的關係 我趕快問那麼我們知道其實預防兒童及少年犯罪的發生有效的降低再犯率我覺得這件非常重要的事情那行政院其實在今年1月份的時候也有核定了一個預防兒童及少年犯罪方案\n33110\t56060\t那麼是規劃四年從114年到117年然後建構三級的預防策略結合警政、社政、衛政、司法、教育等等各單位的資源來提供全面更有效的輔導那現在是這樣的我想請教一下就是說在有關於這個矯正學校的學生他們出校之後的再辦率\n57080\t83687\t事實上本席在去年的時候我也曾經有請司法院有提供相關的這個城鎮中學名陽中學等等這些學生出校之後的再犯率的狀況那麼可以知道就是像是城鎮中學它在去年一整年的這個時間裡面出校人數59人其中有9個人再犯那麼名陽中學那麼目前為止是沒有所以\n85567\t106932\t這個本心想請教就是矯正署這裡對於這個所謂的這個候選對於這些這個再犯的問題你們自己有沒有做過研究檢討就是在整個矯正學校內部裡面當時怎麼樣去輔導這些孩子們那為什麼他們出去了之後在也許在很快的時間裡面又再犯\n108785\t131076\t報告委員我們帥角校出校的學生我們有後追印一年一年內追蹤但是這個追蹤並不是為了要統計他的災犯而是統計他出校以後就學有多少人就業有多少人那如果就醫的包括說失聯的比例有多少\n132817\t159351\t失聯的部分我們會再轉介給衛福部來做一些相關的追蹤因為一般的少年他出校以後他的心態是比較不願意跟我們機構人員來做聯繫尤其他如果有換案另換他案的話他幾乎就失失聯了你也找不到他但是我們有提供給衛福部在持續\n160231\t189036\t那外務部也有就相關的社區的追蹤他的那個追蹤比例也有高達九成多跟七成多的了解好那麼聽起來就是你們只有在出校之後的一年之內你們可能會有聯繫有去追蹤這樣的一個少年可是就是對於他們之後有沒有再犯的這個情況你們就沒有再去持續的勾結相關的資料然後去了解\n191154\t211651\t這個為什麼後來他們有可能會再犯因為我個人認為說在這個矯正學校裡面其實這樣安排很多課程心理輔導啊等等這些部分其實應該要更有效的能夠強化這些少年他們在學校裡面學習的這個成果就總希望說他們出校之後未來\n212712\t230585\t這個能夠回歸正常進入到社會然後從事正常的這些工作或者就學等等而不會說之後又再犯所以這個部分的話我希望就是矯正署能夠可以未來加強在後續追蹤了解的這個狀況\n235523\t249634\t我們有跟司法院來聯繫因為這些初校學生他有可能有一些什麼偏差行為他是會轉介到少母會或是保護觀察或是其他社會機構\n251135\t266833\t他轉介出去以後他不會回到我們哨角校所以我們也沒有那個潛力可以去追蹤說他到底跑到哪邊去了除非他已經到哨角校可能要請王副秘書長從司法院角度來講的話對於這個青少年再犯的問題\n272130\t290163\t就是有沒有過去到現在為止有一些更積極的作為去了解這個再犯少年的情況跟委員報告就是那個司法院這邊有的那個工具統計工具就是說他們從那個矯正學校那個出來之後不會有那個記錄那如果說他們再犯的話\n291243\t300906\t會進到就是那個少年法院就是有觸法行為嘛又再一次進到那個法院來那他就會有一個那個記錄那我們都持續都有那個追蹤統計齁那從110年到113年從矯正學校少年出校之後的再進來的那個人數有31個人啊\n309508\t327790\t那估計大概比例是4.26那但是也要跟委員報告就是說我們這個數據事實上是會有一部分有盲點的因為我少年呢他事實上就只有在那個18歲以下所以說他如果說是那個出去之後他已經是成年的那這部分數據我們就沒有辦法就從這邊去撈\n329728\t347042\t以上所以如果說是從這個更要精進整個的這個少年的關懷還有再進入到矯正學校之後以及他的再犯這個相關的這個情況其實我認為說應該要再做一些研究了解否則的話就是\n348483\t370795\t這個事實上就是從犯罪防的角度來看我覺得這也是有必要的所以我也希望就是司法院是不是之後能夠再把相關的問題然後這個開始委託的研究計畫可以做得更清楚那另外就是司法院這邊資料可能也要未來跟法務部或是矯正署這邊的資料能夠互相提供就是讓\n371815\t400608\t整個的這個學生們他出校了之後再進入矯正學校之後出校之後他後續的情況如何我覺得這個時機上是有必要要去做研究分析的這個可以有效的來改善整個的我們的這個犯罪預防還有犯罪事後的矯正等等這些問題那接下來呢我還再請教的就是說因為其實在矯正學校裡面我們知道\n401812\t420931\t老師們也很辛苦老師們謝謝王副秘書長也先請回矯正學校裡面的其實老師們也很辛苦我們在昨天的這個詢答的時候其實對於整個矯正機關人力不足的問題我們都有提到我們現在的借貨人力比基本上是過低應該是\n424153\t446578\t應該是介護人力比 其實跟其他國家相比較的話我們介護人力其實負擔很重那對於矯正學校的員工來說也是雖然說他們扮演的主要是像是導師、輔導教師等等這些角色那麼但是對於這些矯正學校的教職員的薪資、待遇等等那麼矯正署這邊有給他們一些特別的佳績嗎\n449596\t464571\t有關家籍的部分我們一般的就是有分直接進入穿制服的或是外科室的教化人員我們有分直接危險津貼跟間接的危險津貼\n466613\t468514\t這個部分當然我們將來會改為類似比照移民署這樣子分為三級到時候我們會看實際的情況有一些像教化人員我想這邊跟署長報告就是說其實呢你們那種加節的分類方法我不是那麼同意喔\n485140\t506141\t就是依照所謂的危險的等級去給予加級我覺得這固然重要可是對於像是在教聖學校裡面的這個教職人員的輔導他們等於是一種特別的特殊的一種教育的方式而且他們可能所承受所承擔的教育的任務跟一般的學校的教育任務也不一樣\n507262\t521205\t對 我認為說這個部分可能可以思考就是給予他們一些特別的專業佳績我現在要請教就是教這學校的員工的他的離職率狀況如何他有沒有就是常常的他的流動率\n522062\t547541\t他的離職率是很高報告委員我們有做全台的所謂的離職率的調查這個離職率有含等於辭職、商調還有退休的大概每一年可能是4.5%到5%之間的離職率那現在平均一個老師他是照顧多少的這個小鎮學校的這些學生們\n548471\t574785\t如果以那個委員剛剛有提到那個專輔人力來講我們這裡面有很重要的特教老師特教老師的師生比現在是1比15但是我們理想我們要將來希望能夠達到1比8那如果要達到1比8我們還要爭取的言語我們有評估過大概還要增加10名所謂的特教老師\n575385\t591483\t是我想特教老师的他的这个师生比如果是1比15的话那真的是非常高这个对于特教老师来讲他的身心压力各方面都会非常高那么我个人的想法是说基本上还是要积极的去争取\n592844\t605723\t這個更多的名額那麼剛剛署長講說一比八可能我都覺得這個比例跟其他國家相比就還是算是偏高那麼當然就是說可能給直接先給誘因也很重要如果說我們給矯正學校裡面\n609027\t628845\t教輔人員可以給他們更多的在薪資上面或是家籍上面的保障我相信可以吸引到更多不錯的師資來進入到矯正學校畢竟如果說在矯正學校裡面能夠好好的照顧這群青少年讓他們未來出校之後能夠改邪歸正\n630547\t638365\t有更好的发展而不是又重新回到监狱或是这个小资学校我认为这样的投资是值得的\n639053\t662359\t是 報告委員 在少角校我們這些老師也有所謂的學術獎勵會不過整個全體來講我們會針對業務的環雜度我們來盡量爭取少角校這些老師的一些津貼讓他能夠對於他這份工作珍惜 能夠去來努力\n662739\t665500\t聽到署長這樣的話我就放心了但是我還是希望說請你們可能給我一份就是相關的報告對於現在這些矯正學校那麼他的師資 員額比以及就是對於這個新設人力還有教化人力等等在這些矯正學校裡面他實際的數據如何以及你們未來認為說哪些地方需要\n687672\t708241\t檢討的要再給予這些矯正學校的相關的人力更多的津貼補貼那麼本席在這邊的話我承諾我可以幫助你們就去改善相關的一些學校以及教育環境A組委員多多支持 謝謝委員對 希望這個署長你可以兩個禮拜一個月之後給我這份報告好嗎好的 好的好 那就麻煩你了 好 謝謝好的\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席 在這邊有請教政署的署長 周署長署長委員好因為時間的關係 我趕快問那麼我們知道其實預防兒童及少年犯罪的發生有效的降低再犯率我覺得這件非常重要的事情那行政院其實在今年1月份的時候也有核定了一個預防兒童及少年犯罪方案\n那麼是規劃四年從114年到117年然後建構三級的預防策略結合警政、社政、衛政、司法、教育等等各單位的資源來提供全面更有效的輔導那現在是這樣的我想請教一下就是說在有關於這個矯正學校的學生他們出校之後的再辦率\n事實上本席在去年的時候我也曾經有請司法院有提供相關的這個城鎮中學名陽中學等等這些學生出校之後的再犯率的狀況那麼可以知道就是像是城鎮中學它在去年一整年的這個時間裡面出校人數59人其中有9個人再犯那麼名陽中學那麼目前為止是沒有所以\n這個本心想請教就是矯正署這裡對於這個所謂的這個候選對於這些這個再犯的問題你們自己有沒有做過研究檢討就是在整個矯正學校內部裡面當時怎麼樣去輔導這些孩子們那為什麼他們出去了之後在也許在很快的時間裡面又再犯\n報告委員我們帥角校出校的學生我們有後追印一年一年內追蹤但是這個追蹤並不是為了要統計他的災犯而是統計他出校以後就學有多少人就業有多少人那如果就醫的包括說失聯的比例有多少\n失聯的部分我們會再轉介給衛福部來做一些相關的追蹤因為一般的少年他出校以後他的心態是比較不願意跟我們機構人員來做聯繫尤其他如果有換案另換他案的話他幾乎就失失聯了你也找不到他但是我們有提供給衛福部在持續\n那外務部也有就相關的社區的追蹤他的那個追蹤比例也有高達九成多跟七成多的了解好那麼聽起來就是你們只有在出校之後的一年之內你們可能會有聯繫有去追蹤這樣的一個少年可是就是對於他們之後有沒有再犯的這個情況你們就沒有再去持續的勾結相關的資料然後去了解\n這個為什麼後來他們有可能會再犯因為我個人認為說在這個矯正學校裡面其實這樣安排很多課程心理輔導啊等等這些部分其實應該要更有效的能夠強化這些少年他們在學校裡面學習的這個成果就總希望說他們出校之後未來\n這個能夠回歸正常進入到社會然後從事正常的這些工作或者就學等等而不會說之後又再犯所以這個部分的話我希望就是矯正署能夠可以未來加強在後續追蹤了解的這個狀況\n我們有跟司法院來聯繫因為這些初校學生他有可能有一些什麼偏差行為他是會轉介到少母會或是保護觀察或是其他社會機構\n他轉介出去以後他不會回到我們哨角校所以我們也沒有那個潛力可以去追蹤說他到底跑到哪邊去了除非他已經到哨角校可能要請王副秘書長從司法院角度來講的話對於這個青少年再犯的問題\n就是有沒有過去到現在為止有一些更積極的作為去了解這個再犯少年的情況跟委員報告就是那個司法院這邊有的那個工具統計工具就是說他們從那個矯正學校那個出來之後不會有那個記錄那如果說他們再犯的話\n會進到就是那個少年法院就是有觸法行為嘛又再一次進到那個法院來那他就會有一個那個記錄那我們都持續都有那個追蹤統計齁那從110年到113年從矯正學校少年出校之後的再進來的那個人數有31個人啊\n那估計大概比例是4.26那但是也要跟委員報告就是說我們這個數據事實上是會有一部分有盲點的因為我少年呢他事實上就只有在那個18歲以下所以說他如果說是那個出去之後他已經是成年的那這部分數據我們就沒有辦法就從這邊去撈\n以上所以如果說是從這個更要精進整個的這個少年的關懷還有再進入到矯正學校之後以及他的再犯這個相關的這個情況其實我認為說應該要再做一些研究了解否則的話就是\n這個事實上就是從犯罪防的角度來看我覺得這也是有必要的所以我也希望就是司法院是不是之後能夠再把相關的問題然後這個開始委託的研究計畫可以做得更清楚那另外就是司法院這邊資料可能也要未來跟法務部或是矯正署這邊的資料能夠互相提供就是讓\n整個的這個學生們他出校了之後再進入矯正學校之後出校之後他後續的情況如何我覺得這個時機上是有必要要去做研究分析的這個可以有效的來改善整個的我們的這個犯罪預防還有犯罪事後的矯正等等這些問題那接下來呢我還再請教的就是說因為其實在矯正學校裡面我們知道\n老師們也很辛苦老師們謝謝王副秘書長也先請回矯正學校裡面的其實老師們也很辛苦我們在昨天的這個詢答的時候其實對於整個矯正機關人力不足的問題我們都有提到我們現在的借貨人力比基本上是過低應該是\n應該是介護人力比 其實跟其他國家相比較的話我們介護人力其實負擔很重那對於矯正學校的員工來說也是雖然說他們扮演的主要是像是導師、輔導教師等等這些角色那麼但是對於這些矯正學校的教職員的薪資、待遇等等那麼矯正署這邊有給他們一些特別的佳績嗎\n有關家籍的部分我們一般的就是有分直接進入穿制服的或是外科室的教化人員我們有分直接危險津貼跟間接的危險津貼\n這個部分當然我們將來會改為類似比照移民署這樣子分為三級到時候我們會看實際的情況有一些像教化人員我想這邊跟署長報告就是說其實呢你們那種加節的分類方法我不是那麼同意喔\n就是依照所謂的危險的等級去給予加級我覺得這固然重要可是對於像是在教聖學校裡面的這個教職人員的輔導他們等於是一種特別的特殊的一種教育的方式而且他們可能所承受所承擔的教育的任務跟一般的學校的教育任務也不一樣\n對 我認為說這個部分可能可以思考就是給予他們一些特別的專業佳績我現在要請教就是教這學校的員工的他的離職率狀況如何他有沒有就是常常的他的流動率\n他的離職率是很高報告委員我們有做全台的所謂的離職率的調查這個離職率有含等於辭職、商調還有退休的大概每一年可能是4.5%到5%之間的離職率那現在平均一個老師他是照顧多少的這個小鎮學校的這些學生們\n如果以那個委員剛剛有提到那個專輔人力來講我們這裡面有很重要的特教老師特教老師的師生比現在是1比15但是我們理想我們要將來希望能夠達到1比8那如果要達到1比8我們還要爭取的言語我們有評估過大概還要增加10名所謂的特教老師\n是我想特教老师的他的这个师生比如果是1比15的话那真的是非常高这个对于特教老师来讲他的身心压力各方面都会非常高那么我个人的想法是说基本上还是要积极的去争取\n這個更多的名額那麼剛剛署長講說一比八可能我都覺得這個比例跟其他國家相比就還是算是偏高那麼當然就是說可能給直接先給誘因也很重要如果說我們給矯正學校裡面\n教輔人員可以給他們更多的在薪資上面或是家籍上面的保障我相信可以吸引到更多不錯的師資來進入到矯正學校畢竟如果說在矯正學校裡面能夠好好的照顧這群青少年讓他們未來出校之後能夠改邪歸正\n有更好的发展而不是又重新回到监狱或是这个小资学校我认为这样的投资是值得的\n是 報告委員 在少角校我們這些老師也有所謂的學術獎勵會不過整個全體來講我們會針對業務的環雜度我們來盡量爭取少角校這些老師的一些津貼讓他能夠對於他這份工作珍惜 能夠去來努力\n聽到署長這樣的話我就放心了但是我還是希望說請你們可能給我一份就是相關的報告對於現在這些矯正學校那麼他的師資 員額比以及就是對於這個新設人力還有教化人力等等在這些矯正學校裡面他實際的數據如何以及你們未來認為說哪些地方需要\n檢討的要再給予這些矯正學校的相關的人力更多的津貼補貼那麼本席在這邊的話我承諾我可以幫助你們就去改善相關的一些學校以及教育環境A組委員多多支持 謝謝委員對 希望這個署長你可以兩個禮拜一個月之後給我這份報告好嗎好的 好的好 那就麻煩你了 好 謝謝好的\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.636 --> 00:32.450\n好謝謝主席在這邊有請教政署的署長周署長署長委員好因為時間的關係我趕快問那麼我們知道其實預防兒童及少年犯罪的發生有效的降低再犯率我覺得這件非常重要的事情那行政院其實在今年1月份的時候也有核定了一個預防兒童及少年犯罪方案\n\n00:33.110 --> 00:56.060\n那麼是規劃四年從114年到117年然後建構三級的預防策略結合警政、社政、衛政、司法、教育等等各單位的資源來提供全面更有效的輔導那現在是這樣的我想請教一下就是說在有關於這個矯正學校的學生他們出校之後的再辦率\n\n00:57.080 --> 01:23.687\n事實上本席在去年的時候我也曾經有請司法院有提供相關的這個城鎮中學名陽中學等等這些學生出校之後的再犯率的狀況那麼可以知道就是像是城鎮中學它在去年一整年的這個時間裡面出校人數59人其中有9個人再犯那麼名陽中學那麼目前為止是沒有所以\n\n01:25.567 --> 01:46.932\n這個本心想請教就是矯正署這裡對於這個所謂的這個候選對於這些這個再犯的問題你們自己有沒有做過研究檢討就是在整個矯正學校內部裡面當時怎麼樣去輔導這些孩子們那為什麼他們出去了之後在也許在很快的時間裡面又再犯\n\n01:48.785 --> 02:11.076\n報告委員我們帥角校出校的學生我們有後追印一年一年內追蹤但是這個追蹤並不是為了要統計他的災犯而是統計他出校以後就學有多少人就業有多少人那如果就醫的包括說失聯的比例有多少\n\n02:12.817 --> 02:39.351\n失聯的部分我們會再轉介給衛福部來做一些相關的追蹤因為一般的少年他出校以後他的心態是比較不願意跟我們機構人員來做聯繫尤其他如果有換案另換他案的話他幾乎就失失聯了你也找不到他但是我們有提供給衛福部在持續\n\n02:40.231 --> 03:09.036\n那外務部也有就相關的社區的追蹤他的那個追蹤比例也有高達九成多跟七成多的了解好那麼聽起來就是你們只有在出校之後的一年之內你們可能會有聯繫有去追蹤這樣的一個少年可是就是對於他們之後有沒有再犯的這個情況你們就沒有再去持續的勾結相關的資料然後去了解\n\n03:11.154 --> 03:31.651\n這個為什麼後來他們有可能會再犯因為我個人認為說在這個矯正學校裡面其實這樣安排很多課程心理輔導啊等等這些部分其實應該要更有效的能夠強化這些少年他們在學校裡面學習的這個成果就總希望說他們出校之後未來\n\n03:32.712 --> 03:50.585\n這個能夠回歸正常進入到社會然後從事正常的這些工作或者就學等等而不會說之後又再犯所以這個部分的話我希望就是矯正署能夠可以未來加強在後續追蹤了解的這個狀況\n\n03:55.523 --> 04:09.634\n我們有跟司法院來聯繫因為這些初校學生他有可能有一些什麼偏差行為他是會轉介到少母會或是保護觀察或是其他社會機構\n\n04:11.135 --> 04:26.833\n他轉介出去以後他不會回到我們哨角校所以我們也沒有那個潛力可以去追蹤說他到底跑到哪邊去了除非他已經到哨角校可能要請王副秘書長從司法院角度來講的話對於這個青少年再犯的問題\n\n04:32.130 --> 04:50.163\n就是有沒有過去到現在為止有一些更積極的作為去了解這個再犯少年的情況跟委員報告就是那個司法院這邊有的那個工具統計工具就是說他們從那個矯正學校那個出來之後不會有那個記錄那如果說他們再犯的話\n\n04:51.243 --> 05:00.906\n會進到就是那個少年法院就是有觸法行為嘛又再一次進到那個法院來那他就會有一個那個記錄那我們都持續都有那個追蹤統計齁那從110年到113年從矯正學校少年出校之後的再進來的那個人數有31個人啊\n\n05:09.508 --> 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08:26.141\n就是依照所謂的危險的等級去給予加級我覺得這固然重要可是對於像是在教聖學校裡面的這個教職人員的輔導他們等於是一種特別的特殊的一種教育的方式而且他們可能所承受所承擔的教育的任務跟一般的學校的教育任務也不一樣\n\n08:27.262 --> 08:41.205\n對我認為說這個部分可能可以思考就是給予他們一些特別的專業佳績我現在要請教就是教這學校的員工的他的離職率狀況如何他有沒有就是常常的他的流動率\n\n08:42.062 --> 09:07.541\n他的離職率是很高報告委員我們有做全台的所謂的離職率的調查這個離職率有含等於辭職、商調還有退休的大概每一年可能是4.5%到5%之間的離職率那現在平均一個老師他是照顧多少的這個小鎮學校的這些學生們\n\n09:08.471 --> 09:34.785\n如果以那個委員剛剛有提到那個專輔人力來講我們這裡面有很重要的特教老師特教老師的師生比現在是1比15但是我們理想我們要將來希望能夠達到1比8那如果要達到1比8我們還要爭取的言語我們有評估過大概還要增加10名所謂的特教老師\n\n09:35.385 --> 09:51.483\n是我想特教老师的他的这个师生比如果是1比15的话那真的是非常高这个对于特教老师来讲他的身心压力各方面都会非常高那么我个人的想法是说基本上还是要积极的去争取\n\n09:52.844 --> 10:05.723\n這個更多的名額那麼剛剛署長講說一比八可能我都覺得這個比例跟其他國家相比就還是算是偏高那麼當然就是說可能給直接先給誘因也很重要如果說我們給矯正學校裡面\n\n10:09.027 --> 10:28.845\n教輔人員可以給他們更多的在薪資上面或是家籍上面的保障我相信可以吸引到更多不錯的師資來進入到矯正學校畢竟如果說在矯正學校裡面能夠好好的照顧這群青少年讓他們未來出校之後能夠改邪歸正\n\n10:30.547 --> 10:38.365\n有更好的发展而不是又重新回到监狱或是这个小资学校我认为这样的投资是值得的\n\n10:39.053 --> 11:02.359\n是報告委員在少角校我們這些老師也有所謂的學術獎勵會不過整個全體來講我們會針對業務的環雜度我們來盡量爭取少角校這些老師的一些津貼讓他能夠對於他這份工作珍惜能夠去來努力\n\n11:02.739 --> 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