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00:02:29,243\n那個柏定現在家庭照顧假一年你知道幾天嗎七天而且是不知心的對不對那公務員這七天是有假的可是他不扣考機的同時他要跟那個試駕也是要合併最多也是只有七天啦那現在好了腸病毒現在這個挑戰來了他是一個政策性的這個休假柏定你知道嗎腸病毒來休假要休幾天\n\n7\n00:02:33,659 --> 00:02:51,148\n規定政府規定要效本幾天五天吧五天五到七天對啊七天就過了加起來這次就不夠了來看這個統計這是這個統計我們每一年我國偷鷹中心藏病毒這個停課平均要幾年要19天\n\n8\n00:02:53,854 --> 00:03:12,447\n特別在六都裡面你看高雄市的這個公立托嬰中心一年因為傳染病毒停課要25天台北市19.9將近20天桃園17我們現在把所有六都把它平均起來台中市稍微低一點點19天耶哇差太多了\n\n9\n00:03:14,471 --> 00:03:36,385\n你現在給他的家庭照顧價7天結果你是政策性要讓他停課的你只要一個班級一個班級有兩位小朋友在一週裡面有腸病毒就停7天平均下來全台灣喔一年大概19天因為腸病毒放假所以不夠顯然不夠用嘛\n\n10\n00:03:38,260 --> 00:04:03,144\n對不對我們說當家父母前天下的這個父母碰到這種狀況價都不夠用了那這個談的是小朋友啦我們還要照顧家裡很多人還是長輩對不對所以顯然這個價是不夠的好那台灣民眾黨已經提出修正案針對這個問題我們要修正性別平等工作法\n\n11\n00:04:04,803 --> 00:04:18,068\n我們的建議是這樣子我們的條文是明確的本來7天剛才說過明顯不夠我們把7天增加為14天第二個家庭照顧假不要記入這個私假因為私假就沒錢了我們這個去比照這個育嬰留子這個津貼給予這個嬰友的這個津貼\n\n12\n00:04:29,389 --> 00:04:48,425\n你贊成這樣一個修法的方向嗎跟委員說明我們其實想要處理的問題是同樣的問題但我們現在想採取的方式是透過運營流停的彈性化如果可以朝更短的時間來請修的話其實他的可以去運用的天數可以比現在的這個方案其實來的更多\n\n13\n00:04:49,582 --> 00:05:06,468\n我看你接受專訪有提到嘛你說如何讓這個休假應應留庭可以更基於彈性嘛對不對這個做法可以比要用彈性照顧假的這個目前的現在14天來的更多你的彈性有辦法達到比14天多嗎\n\n14\n00:05:07,724 --> 00:05:30,549\n我們是朝這個方向我們是朝向這個方向我們提出具體的而且運營流停的也是有薪資補助的就是來自舊保跟公預算薪資補助所以它其實也是有薪的那它的天數也可以比14天來得更多所以我們是認為這可能會是一個更能夠來去處理需求的解法\n\n15\n00:05:31,257 --> 00:05:54,617\n不定不管是台灣民眾黨提出的具體的修正案或者是你剛剛講的這應該對我們的爸爸媽媽們應該都是一個很好的消息啦實際上對小朋友是一個很好的消息那儘快做不要等到下個會期儘快我們現在是全力的趕快進行而且這個會期現在已經延會了嘛還要儘快一點點來我們看一下民眾黨民眾黨怎麼做除了剛剛我們的訴求至少要14天的有薪\n\n16\n00:05:55,498 --> 00:06:24,424\n家庭照顧價不要跟市價合併那如果是政策性因素的停課的話都要管長病毒這個應該要這個家庭勞動力的這個補償這個措施因為是你政府規定的嘛對不對跟文說明因為現在確實有一些訴求談到有薪的家庭照顧價可是如果家庭照顧價要有薪的話其實每一年可能這個預算上面的支出會超過百億每一天要超過百億如果七天的話還要再乘以七\n\n17\n00:06:25,664 --> 00:06:54,680\n這其實對整體的財政的負擔是蠻大的如果是一個如果這個負責任的企業是一個優良的企業他讓他的員工可以留下來然後讓他回家還可以好好照顧小孩子這個投資是值得的對但是就是說這個有薪是誰要付整個台灣不是往和諧方向走這個薪是誰要付比方說我也想就是說這個薪水是僱主要付還是政府要付公務員這一塊當然就是政府付嘛對不對然後這個企業你剛有提到嘛跟企業多溝通啊\n\n18\n00:06:55,481 --> 00:07:00,125\n事實上有某些企業我跟你講我民眾黨就會做我講給你聽民眾黨目前已經給黨工7天前薪7天的我先給你聽大家看看看民眾黨怎麼做民眾黨走在前面我們給黨工7天前薪的家庭照顧假\n\n19\n00:07:15,257 --> 00:07:29,935\n從今年開始我們民眾黨對於生理假生理假這個規範已經超越現行規範我們給我們女性的黨工每個月有一天的生理假然後去年開始柯文哲就宣布了民眾黨用於法規我們把這個家庭照顧假\n\n20\n00:07:31,024 --> 00:07:49,680\n加碼7天給予14天的輕職照顧假他在加碼現行法規的7天是算在市價無薪的我們從去年5月開始這7天都是全薪所以大家可以參考一下台灣民眾黨這個宣布民眾黨現在主張的是說這個家庭照顧假\n\n21\n00:07:56,245 --> 00:08:21,060\n因為我們政策上都不是只歸分政黨我們要觸及的範圍是所有的職場甚至我們也不是只是說公務員的職場是所有的職場這個職場裡面有很多是中小企業所以確實現在會有一些委員的主張是有新的家庭照顧假他是要政府出這是一種那如果按照委員這樣講民眾黨的是要\n\n22\n00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:44,979\n企業出這當然也是一個做法那的確這個部分就要來跟企業跟產業來溝通這部分的支出對我們就希望不是只有民眾黨的黨工啦我們就希望全台灣就可以拓展到每個人都享受這個福利所以我們才要提的這個修法嘛然後每個黨都有他的優點啦國民黨民進黨台灣民眾黨各個黨都有他的優點那好的我們就盡量去推動好不好阿博定你剛才說的我剛\n\n23\n00:08:46,961 --> 00:09:06,919\n講說這個我們這個法是一個好消息你剛提到你說你的目前想的這個方法比14天還還多啊然後他一樣有津貼啊怎麼做你要準備怎麼做當然就是從育嬰留庭的角度來從育嬰留庭的方向來去可以讓大家來做清零那其實天數應該是可以比14天來更多的\n\n24\n00:09:07,652 --> 00:09:15,236\n這個做好事我們就共同來努力了好不好我們共同來推這個修法盡快看到這個部長做的這個對我們的爸爸媽媽跟小朋友照顧謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n103\t123\t請部長\n26661\t46753\t我們可以說要落實讓爸爸媽媽可以好好照顧小孩而且可以留在職場上一個很重要的就是落實家庭照顧家這個制度打造一個友善的育兒環境台灣民眾黨已經提出了相關的這個修法所以請教的人比較多\n51983\t80044\t現在是腸病毒的高峰期我們台灣腸病毒大概兩個高峰期一個五六月 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卻要由育兒的家庭的父母自行以家庭照顧假 試假 未繞假甚至是各種名目的假來承擔所有假都用上了以後 不夠啊有時候公司還不准假所以你只能犧牲自己的薪水去請假來照顧這一點太不合理了所以說啊\n應該這個規定要調整希望可以照顧更多的家庭也讓我們更多年輕人願意生養小孩生養小孩不是只有從來不是只有錢的問題是環境的不友善\n那個柏定 現在家庭照顧假一年你知道幾天嗎 七天而且是不知心的 對不對那公務員這七天是有假的可是他不扣考機的同時他要跟那個試駕也是要合併最多也是只有七天啦那現在好了 腸病毒現在這個挑戰來了他是一個政策性的這個休假柏定你知道嗎 腸病毒來休假要休幾天\n規定 政府規定要效本幾天五天吧五天 五到七天對啊 七天就過了 加起來這次就不夠了來看這個統計這是這個統計我們每一年我國偷鷹中心藏病毒這個停課平均要幾年要19天\n特別在六都裡面 你看高雄市的這個公立托嬰中心一年因為傳染病毒停課要25天台北市19.9 將近20天桃園17我們現在把所有六都把它平均起來台中市稍微低一點點19天耶哇 差太多了\n你現在給他的家庭照顧價7天結果你是政策性要讓他停課的你只要一個班級一個班級有兩位小朋友在一週裡面有腸病毒就停7天平均下來 全台灣喔一年大概19天 因為腸病毒放假所以不夠 顯然不夠用嘛\n對不對 我們說當家父母 前天下的這個父母碰到這種狀況 價都不夠用了那這個談的是小朋友啦 我們還要照顧家裡很多人還是長輩 對不對所以顯然這個價是不夠的好 那台灣民眾黨已經提出修正案 針對這個問題我們要修正性別平等工作法\n我們的建議是這樣子 我們的條文是明確的本來7天剛才說過 明顯不夠我們把7天增加為14天第二個 家庭照顧假不要記入這個私假 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