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00:00:37,689\n維也好好謝謝常事長委員長早跟常事請教剛剛特別我在提案說明有提到立法院在113年的7月16號刪除通過新住民基本法那總統也在8月12號公佈那實行日期由行政院定制那剛剛我想其他\n\n3\n00:00:39,170 --> 00:00:55,936\n其他在野黨的委員也有提說現在目前還沒有正式的這個施行日期還沒有正式的上路所以這邊也希望說長期的部分可以繼續加油趕快讓行政院來公佈好不好可以嗎可以的謝謝那在第一本法第四條裡面有寫說內政部應該設置一個專責的三級機關就是這個\n\n4\n00:01:02,886 --> 00:01:16,843\n發展署的一個部分來統籌新住民的相關政策以及服務事宜那在去年12月的時候內政委員會在審內政部的預算當時劉世芳部長說114年的上半年本來就可以來讓將這個\n\n5\n00:01:19,325 --> 00:01:45,155\n組織法草案送到立法院審查可是今年的5月14號本席又在內政委員會請教劉世芳部長他跟我說他說要改到下會期才可以送進來那我今天看到內政部的報告裡面是寫說因為這可能牽扯到的內容相關的複雜需要相當的作業時間那我們有想先請教一下院版的時候這個常識有沒有覺得什麼時候可以收到立法院審查\n\n6\n00:01:47,215 --> 00:02:07,913\n謝謝委員的指教我想總統公布之後其實我們在去年底已經把我們相關的資料都先報給行政院那也程度我剛剛有跟大家報告其實因為這個整個新住民基本法裡面的新住民包括定義包括事務包括有涉及到剛剛講的文化教育衛福還有勞動那這些的部分都還需要再做跨機關的業務的審查\n\n7\n00:02:09,815 --> 00:02:30,345\n那我想我自己本身召開的儲備小組我還是會繼續找相關單位來看有沒有更好的經濟就是說因為新住民有很多委員非常關心因為現在新住民人數大概已經超過60萬了新住民家庭人數超過100萬所以我們才想說這個是非常的重要不管是新住民現在的很多的\n\n8\n00:02:31,345 --> 00:02:45,896\n這個就學教育等等醫療問題其實都急需一個專法來協助那其實我要跟部長跟這個長治報告其實在去年在我們的新住民基本法在修法的時候其實也是\n\n9\n00:02:46,916 --> 00:03:13,754\n這個內政委員會我們先提出我們的版本然後在去年的4月29號先出審然後6月12號排第二次審查後送出委員會朝野協商在6月28號行政院才這個很慢的就是好像有點被趕鴨子上架來把版本送進來那我們希望說最後在7月16號進行二三讀我們希望說這次行政院可以提早送進來版本不要這麼的趕\n\n10\n00:03:15,335 --> 00:03:39,664\n這要拜託一下再來我們請教一下剛剛很多委員有請教說過去你們開了很多次有關的籌備小組的會議剛剛也有特別討論說籌備小組的人數跟成員可是我想比較重要的點是討論的內容是什麼因為很多委員好像有所知現在好像因為討論的內容非常的複雜是不是可以請你簡單的\n\n11\n00:03:41,224 --> 00:03:55,246\n講一下到底討論的內容這麼十幾次的籌備小組的內容大概具體的內容是什麼遇到什麼樣的困難是不是可以請你簡單介紹一下那我想我們籌備小組去年成立之後目前我主持開過七次第一個是業務執掌\n\n12\n00:03:56,167 --> 00:04:15,408\n然後人員編制那甚至有辦公廳設還有未來的年度預算的編列那我們目前規劃的部分是四個組12顆總共會有將近100人的正式員額那這部分也都非常謝謝人事總署的幫忙那未來我們移民署的部分大概會將近快50個會移播到\n\n13\n00:04:16,934 --> 00:04:40,469\n新成立的這個新住民發展署那後續的部分其實我這邊其實比較簡單就是就業務執掌的內容的部分可能還需要規模跟經濟上的編制那這個部分當然我這邊也會請任總來給我們協助請問任總請問蘇仁市長那剛剛所這個常次有講的人數的部分請問你們可以協助嗎現在有沒有什麼遇到什麼問題\n\n14\n00:04:42,489 --> 00:05:01,561\n事實上過去內政部跟我們大概開了22次會議我們人總有參加了有跨部會協調有三次他們會把他們碰到問題我們會請你來協助他們所以目前來講沒有很大的問題我們都有一些SOP在處理那沒有問題\n\n15\n00:05:03,623 --> 00:05:17,239\n那我再請教一下剛剛這個長茲有講到我們的業務量很多那就報告的裡面的內容寫說現在近有百項的業務那你剛剛有稍微提說總共分四個小組嘛會把這百項的業務來處理\n\n16\n00:05:19,321 --> 00:05:48,585\n那其實我們在這個我們的草案的版本裡面也有寫說我們所要的職長的業務範圍內那就請這個內政部的部分來去對一下說看我們現在草案的部分跟你們現在內容的板向的業務內容是不是可以相符如果有需要有看過了嗎有沒有都符合我簡單跟委員報告那我們是依照新住民基本法裡面的內容所以我們從那個新住民基本法裡面的業務內容的架構我們才會把它分成四個組12課那如果有細項的部分到時候我再會有提供給委員\n\n17\n00:05:49,517 --> 00:06:14,342\n好那最後我請教一下齁其實剛剛講的嘛預算的部分那我現在比較擔心的一個點齁跟常事請教了一下如果今年在上半年度我們當然希望當然在野黨當然希望說可以提早通過啦那剛剛當然部長是說希望到下個會期才通過我覺得大家還可以協商齁不過我覺得還是要尊重立法院我們照顧新住民權益的一個努力啊那我在想請教的是說那如果因為現在這個\n\n18\n00:06:16,262 --> 00:06:30,969\n這個年度其實預算已經在編列當中了那如果這個會期什麼時候通過法案的時候可以讓我們的新住民發展署在明年上路大概整個期程你可不可以稍微解釋一下我簡單跟委員報告因為我們現在目前\n\n19\n00:06:32,790 --> 00:06:38,297\n我們預計明年因為我們剛好正在籌備115年的預算我們也出估針對新住民發展署成立之後其實未來的年度規模大概會到7億多就是大概剛剛講的\n\n20\n00:06:48,650 --> 00:07:10,336\n人事的部分大概將近100多人那還有10個月聘僱那我們年度的預算會在7億那以今年來講在如果在今年如果要可以先成立之後可以去推動我們目前預估也會大概要今年的話剩下大概還要籌1億8那這個1億8的部分的新增的業務內容都是依照基本法的內容我們去做盤整的所以預算的部分今年度\n\n21\n00:07:11,716 --> 00:07:35,996\n有機會在明年今年會先編明年的預算嗎今年現在正在編明年的有編這個新住民發展署的預算因為現在在六月那再來的話就今年的部分如果有需要用的部分我們會用追加有機會要追加預算所以如果我們今年法令不管在上半年或下半年通過這個法令其實新住民發展署是有機會有預算可以在明年度使用今年的話就只能走追加對\n\n22\n00:07:36,756 --> 00:07:49,801\n然後如果不夠的可以走追加的部分就對了好那最後一個問題喔時間的關係喔那我最後想請教我們新住民發展署的地點上次我詢問大概在新北或是台北那現在有比較具體的地方可以透露嗎\n\n23\n00:07:50,923 --> 00:08:04,119\n檢察官委員報告其實第一個要挑盡量離中央各部會比較近的那我們可能會在落腳或是台北跟新北我們都有在考慮幾個點所以還沒有完全確定都還沒確定希望說內政部可以繼續來努力樂觀其成謝謝謝謝委員謝謝下一位我們請蘇巧慧\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5816\t15754\t好 謝謝主席我們是不是有請各位委員各位官員早是不是有請內政部這個吳長志以及行政人事總署的蘇仁市長好 仁市長\n17288\t37689\t維也好好 謝謝常事長 委員長早跟常事請教剛剛特別我在提案說明有提到立法院在113年的7月16號刪除通過新住民基本法那總統也在8月12號公佈那實行日期由行政院定制那剛剛我想其他\n39170\t55936\t其他在野黨的委員也有提說現在目前還沒有正式的這個施行日期還沒有正式的上路所以這邊也希望說長期的部分可以繼續加油趕快讓行政院來公佈好不好可以嗎可以的謝謝那在第一本法第四條裡面有寫說內政部應該設置一個專責的三級機關就是這個\n62886\t76843\t發展署的一個部分來統籌新住民的相關政策以及服務事宜那在去年12月的時候內政委員會在審內政部的預算當時劉世芳部長說114年的上半年本來就可以來讓將這個\n79325\t105155\t組織法草案送到立法院審查可是今年的5月14號本席又在內政委員會請教劉世芳部長他跟我說他說要改到下會期才可以送進來那我今天看到內政部的報告裡面是寫說因為這可能牽扯到的內容相關的複雜需要相當的作業時間那我們有想先請教一下院版的時候這個常識有沒有覺得什麼時候可以收到立法院審查\n107215\t127913\t謝謝委員的指教我想總統公布之後其實我們在去年底已經把我們相關的資料都先報給行政院那也程度我剛剛有跟大家報告其實因為這個整個新住民基本法裡面的新住民包括定義包括事務包括有涉及到剛剛講的文化教育衛福還有勞動那這些的部分都還需要再做跨機關的業務的審查\n129815\t150345\t那我想我自己本身召開的儲備小組我還是會繼續找相關單位來看有沒有更好的經濟就是說因為新住民有很多委員非常關心因為現在新住民人數大概已經超過60萬了新住民家庭人數超過100萬所以我們才想說這個是非常的重要不管是新住民現在的很多的\n151345\t165896\t這個就學教育等等醫療問題其實都急需一個專法來協助那其實我要跟部長跟這個長治報告其實在去年在我們的新住民基本法在修法的時候其實也是\n166916\t193754\t這個內政委員會我們先提出我們的版本然後在去年的4月29號先出審然後6月12號排第二次審查後送出委員會朝野協商在6月28號行政院才這個很慢的就是好像有點被趕鴨子上架來把版本送進來那我們希望說最後在7月16號進行二三讀我們希望說這次行政院可以提早送進來版本不要這麼的趕\n195335\t219664\t這要拜託一下再來我們請教一下剛剛很多委員有請教說過去你們開了很多次有關的籌備小組的會議剛剛也有特別討論說籌備小組的人數跟成員可是我想比較重要的點是討論的內容是什麼因為很多委員好像有所知現在好像因為討論的內容非常的複雜是不是可以請你簡單的\n221224\t235246\t講一下到底討論的內容這麼十幾次的籌備小組的內容大概具體的內容是什麼遇到什麼樣的困難是不是可以請你簡單介紹一下那我想我們籌備小組去年成立之後目前我主持開過七次第一個是業務執掌\n236167\t255408\t然後人員編制那甚至有辦公廳設還有未來的年度預算的編列那我們目前規劃的部分是四個組12顆總共會有將近100人的正式員額那這部分也都非常謝謝人事總署的幫忙那未來我們移民署的部分大概會將近快50個會移播到\n256934\t280469\t新成立的這個新住民發展署那後續的部分其實我這邊其實比較簡單就是就業務執掌的內容的部分可能還需要規模跟經濟上的編制那這個部分當然我這邊也會請任總來給我們協助請問任總 請問蘇仁市長那剛剛所這個常次有講的人數的部分請問你們可以協助嗎現在有沒有什麼遇到什麼問題\n282489\t301561\t事實上過去內政部跟我們大概開了22次會議我們人總有參加了有跨部會協調有三次他們會把他們碰到問題我們會請你來協助他們所以目前來講沒有很大的問題我們都有一些SOP在處理那沒有問題\n303623\t317239\t那我再請教一下剛剛這個長茲有講到我們的業務量很多那就報告的裡面的內容寫說現在近有百項的業務那你剛剛有稍微提說總共分四個小組嘛會把這百項的業務來處理\n319321\t348585\t那其實我們在這個我們的草案的版本裡面也有寫說我們所要的職長的業務範圍內那就請這個內政部的部分來去對一下說看我們現在草案的部分跟你們現在內容的板向的業務內容是不是可以相符如果有需要有看過了嗎有沒有都符合我簡單跟委員報告那我們是依照新住民基本法裡面的內容所以我們從那個新住民基本法裡面的業務內容的架構我們才會把它分成四個組12課那如果有細項的部分到時候我再會有提供給委員\n349517\t374342\t好那最後我請教一下齁其實剛剛講的嘛預算的部分那我現在比較擔心的一個點齁跟常事請教了一下如果今年在上半年度我們當然希望當然在野黨當然希望說可以提早通過啦那剛剛當然部長是說希望到下個會期才通過我覺得大家還可以協商齁不過我覺得還是要尊重立法院我們照顧新住民權益的一個努力啊那我在想請教的是說那如果因為現在這個\n376262\t390969\t這個年度其實預算已經在編列當中了那如果這個會期什麼時候通過法案的時候可以讓我們的新住民發展署在明年上路大概整個期程你可不可以稍微解釋一下我簡單跟委員報告因為我們現在目前\n392790\t398297\t我們預計明年因為我們剛好正在籌備115年的預算我們也出估針對新住民發展署成立之後其實未來的年度規模大概會到7億多就是大概剛剛講的\n408650\t430336\t人事的部分大概將近100多人那還有10個月聘僱那我們年度的預算會在7億那以今年來講在如果在今年如果要可以先成立之後可以去推動我們目前預估也會大概要今年的話剩下大概還要籌1億8那這個1億8的部分的新增的業務內容都是依照基本法的內容我們去做盤整的所以預算的部分今年度\n431716\t455996\t有機會在明年今年會先編明年的預算嗎今年現在正在編明年的有編這個新住民發展署的預算因為現在在六月那再來的話就今年的部分如果有需要用的部分我們會用追加有機會要追加預算所以如果我們今年法令不管在上半年或下半年通過這個法令其實新住民發展署是有機會有預算可以在明年度使用今年的話就只能走追加 對\n456756\t469801\t然後如果不夠的可以走追加的部分就對了好那最後一個問題喔時間的關係喔那我最後想請教我們新住民發展署的地點上次我詢問大概在新北或是台北那現在有比較具體的地方可以透露嗎\n470923\t484119\t檢察官委員報告其實第一個要挑盡量離中央各部會比較近的那我們可能會在落腳或是台北跟新北我們都有在考慮幾個點所以還沒有完全確定都還沒確定希望說內政部可以繼續來努力樂觀其成 謝謝謝謝委員謝謝 下一位我們請蘇巧慧\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席我們是不是有請各位委員各位官員早是不是有請內政部這個吳長志以及行政人事總署的蘇仁市長好 仁市長\n維也好好 謝謝常事長 委員長早跟常事請教剛剛特別我在提案說明有提到立法院在113年的7月16號刪除通過新住民基本法那總統也在8月12號公佈那實行日期由行政院定制那剛剛我想其他\n其他在野黨的委員也有提說現在目前還沒有正式的這個施行日期還沒有正式的上路所以這邊也希望說長期的部分可以繼續加油趕快讓行政院來公佈好不好可以嗎可以的謝謝那在第一本法第四條裡面有寫說內政部應該設置一個專責的三級機關就是這個\n發展署的一個部分來統籌新住民的相關政策以及服務事宜那在去年12月的時候內政委員會在審內政部的預算當時劉世芳部長說114年的上半年本來就可以來讓將這個\n組織法草案送到立法院審查可是今年的5月14號本席又在內政委員會請教劉世芳部長他跟我說他說要改到下會期才可以送進來那我今天看到內政部的報告裡面是寫說因為這可能牽扯到的內容相關的複雜需要相當的作業時間那我們有想先請教一下院版的時候這個常識有沒有覺得什麼時候可以收到立法院審查\n謝謝委員的指教我想總統公布之後其實我們在去年底已經把我們相關的資料都先報給行政院那也程度我剛剛有跟大家報告其實因為這個整個新住民基本法裡面的新住民包括定義包括事務包括有涉及到剛剛講的文化教育衛福還有勞動那這些的部分都還需要再做跨機關的業務的審查\n那我想我自己本身召開的儲備小組我還是會繼續找相關單位來看有沒有更好的經濟就是說因為新住民有很多委員非常關心因為現在新住民人數大概已經超過60萬了新住民家庭人數超過100萬所以我們才想說這個是非常的重要不管是新住民現在的很多的\n這個就學教育等等醫療問題其實都急需一個專法來協助那其實我要跟部長跟這個長治報告其實在去年在我們的新住民基本法在修法的時候其實也是\n這個內政委員會我們先提出我們的版本然後在去年的4月29號先出審然後6月12號排第二次審查後送出委員會朝野協商在6月28號行政院才這個很慢的就是好像有點被趕鴨子上架來把版本送進來那我們希望說最後在7月16號進行二三讀我們希望說這次行政院可以提早送進來版本不要這麼的趕\n這要拜託一下再來我們請教一下剛剛很多委員有請教說過去你們開了很多次有關的籌備小組的會議剛剛也有特別討論說籌備小組的人數跟成員可是我想比較重要的點是討論的內容是什麼因為很多委員好像有所知現在好像因為討論的內容非常的複雜是不是可以請你簡單的\n講一下到底討論的內容這麼十幾次的籌備小組的內容大概具體的內容是什麼遇到什麼樣的困難是不是可以請你簡單介紹一下那我想我們籌備小組去年成立之後目前我主持開過七次第一個是業務執掌\n然後人員編制那甚至有辦公廳設還有未來的年度預算的編列那我們目前規劃的部分是四個組12顆總共會有將近100人的正式員額那這部分也都非常謝謝人事總署的幫忙那未來我們移民署的部分大概會將近快50個會移播到\n新成立的這個新住民發展署那後續的部分其實我這邊其實比較簡單就是就業務執掌的內容的部分可能還需要規模跟經濟上的編制那這個部分當然我這邊也會請任總來給我們協助請問任總 請問蘇仁市長那剛剛所這個常次有講的人數的部分請問你們可以協助嗎現在有沒有什麼遇到什麼問題\n事實上過去內政部跟我們大概開了22次會議我們人總有參加了有跨部會協調有三次他們會把他們碰到問題我們會請你來協助他們所以目前來講沒有很大的問題我們都有一些SOP在處理那沒有問題\n那我再請教一下剛剛這個長茲有講到我們的業務量很多那就報告的裡面的內容寫說現在近有百項的業務那你剛剛有稍微提說總共分四個小組嘛會把這百項的業務來處理\n那其實我們在這個我們的草案的版本裡面也有寫說我們所要的職長的業務範圍內那就請這個內政部的部分來去對一下說看我們現在草案的部分跟你們現在內容的板向的業務內容是不是可以相符如果有需要有看過了嗎有沒有都符合我簡單跟委員報告那我們是依照新住民基本法裡面的內容所以我們從那個新住民基本法裡面的業務內容的架構我們才會把它分成四個組12課那如果有細項的部分到時候我再會有提供給委員\n好那最後我請教一下齁其實剛剛講的嘛預算的部分那我現在比較擔心的一個點齁跟常事請教了一下如果今年在上半年度我們當然希望當然在野黨當然希望說可以提早通過啦那剛剛當然部長是說希望到下個會期才通過我覺得大家還可以協商齁不過我覺得還是要尊重立法院我們照顧新住民權益的一個努力啊那我在想請教的是說那如果因為現在這個\n這個年度其實預算已經在編列當中了那如果這個會期什麼時候通過法案的時候可以讓我們的新住民發展署在明年上路大概整個期程你可不可以稍微解釋一下我簡單跟委員報告因為我們現在目前\n我們預計明年因為我們剛好正在籌備115年的預算我們也出估針對新住民發展署成立之後其實未來的年度規模大概會到7億多就是大概剛剛講的\n人事的部分大概將近100多人那還有10個月聘僱那我們年度的預算會在7億那以今年來講在如果在今年如果要可以先成立之後可以去推動我們目前預估也會大概要今年的話剩下大概還要籌1億8那這個1億8的部分的新增的業務內容都是依照基本法的內容我們去做盤整的所以預算的部分今年度\n有機會在明年今年會先編明年的預算嗎今年現在正在編明年的有編這個新住民發展署的預算因為現在在六月那再來的話就今年的部分如果有需要用的部分我們會用追加有機會要追加預算所以如果我們今年法令不管在上半年或下半年通過這個法令其實新住民發展署是有機會有預算可以在明年度使用今年的話就只能走追加 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