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00:00:53,040\n有沒有在做?COVID-19之前有嗎?世界主要的口罩跟誰買的?世界上主要的這種COVID-19防護口罩,當時都是跟中國買的啦後來台灣趕快的進口那樣的一個表面噴劑,我們才有辦法自製嘛對不對?血袋是不是一個比較低階的產品?全世界大概其中在哪幾家工廠生產,你知道嗎?\n\n3\n00:00:54,466 --> 00:01:16,797\n副組長跟他講一下副組長剛剛委員報告全世界主要是日本美國跟歐洲有在生產是的所以整個全球化經濟的結果大概這些醫材如果不是很通用性的醫材有些就是少數的國家少數的工廠在製造但是剛剛委員召委的諮詢前台灣要有備戰的準備包括我們的\n\n4\n00:01:18,072 --> 00:01:28,357\n部立醫院的地下室要做緊急的傷患修製包括我們這些會需要用到的醫材要趕快自主籌措自主證到的能力部長能不能做到\n\n5\n00:01:30,247 --> 00:01:54,414\n剛剛醫事室也有報告齁,在我們準備的藥材、醫材都有準備十萬人份的一個急救另外當我們準備這個時候呢,你要想到什麼?去化因為這些東西都有保存期限的所以你解決你的緊急存量之後,你要思考到定期的推陳出新的去化當然這是管理藥品一定要的事我們給你一個報告,給你一個書面報告好,那我先問謝副組長謝副組長\n\n6\n00:01:59,947 --> 00:02:18,756\n請問目前我們看一下為什麼金門海域走私日漸長久我們看到新聞啊遊艇喔金門的遊艇會到中國海域走私喔把台灣的一些東西在非法運送電子產品運到中國去啊還有什麼澳洲的龍蝦怎麼到中國的是透過金門馬祖從台灣這邊把龍蝦進到中國去啊\n\n7\n00:02:22,998 --> 00:02:49,411\n包括這些顯卡科技產品這些包括無人機的晶片都用漁船搬貨副組長你們有沒有抓到過我們抓到非常多非常多嗎是所以這是一個嚴重的問題我們往下看接下來我們看到這兩天這個是密集的報導灰色海域變成了中國大中國的走私產地越容易來我們看看越靠近中國越容易\n\n8\n00:02:50,111 --> 00:03:12,665\n基本上是台灣的漁民跟中國下單他們在福建養成陳輩綁成浮球在海上丟包馬祖的漁民領獲在馬祖海域綻放然後變成台灣的牡蠣有沒有這樣的情況馬祖沒有超過列案有有嘛馬祖本來的產量是148公噸2023年結果去年馬祖向往台灣的牡蠣多少1500噸啊你們不覺得可疑嗎\n\n9\n00:03:16,192 --> 00:03:34,055\n有沒有跟農業部去查一下到底馬達族哪些人在養牡蠣這不僅跟地方漁業主管機關也跟中央主管機關我們都協調過我們在查計畫全力以赴另外呢我們希望從源頭管理包括產銷履歷等等是的那產銷履歷那就是農業部的事金馬的海域\n\n10\n00:03:35,737 --> 00:03:46,542\n兩邊共同去管理的海域就成為兩邊走私的一個漏洞我們想要看現在我們看到金下海域有一個違規的磕棚是不是是現在金門縣政府有辦法去拆嗎\n\n11\n00:03:48,696 --> 00:04:07,870\n這個是非法漁業行為我們建議金門縣政府要依照漁業法聽到沒有你們建議金門縣政府海巡署可以去執行嗎不是嘛拆客架不是你們的事情嗎我們負責漁業界入船好你們負責漁業界的包括說拆除的話有安全顧慮的話我們全程戒護都沒有問題所以現在執法的困難在哪裡\n\n12\n00:04:09,010 --> 00:04:18,173\n跟委員報告這個距離剛好它核損的地方各2公頃96跟100年各2公頃只有4公頃剛好在我們檳榔嶼就是在淨線水域線上就在旁邊距離廈門1.7箱是\n\n13\n00:04:26,777 --> 00:04:50,153\n淨線水域如果模糊是不是走資越容易所以我們強制執法嚴正執法但是你執法還要法是怎麼定我們來看一下現在有在野黨立委主張兩岸協商金馬的淨制水域要內海化怎麼說前項限制或禁止水域由海洋委員公告之但是他是怎樣他把淡化組言到說這些地方\n\n14\n00:04:51,803 --> 00:05:08,915\n要跟陸方透過協商定出陸方承認的我國司法行政有效水準是這樣嗎你覺得可以接受嗎我們不同意因為這個案子涉及到國家安全國防策略還有區域的發展那這部分不是單單執法而已是\n\n15\n00:05:09,355 --> 00:05:26,850\n是,所以我們看到在野黨的他的關係文化立法理由說1949年以來的內戰狀態其實我們解決洞刊之後就沒有什麼內戰的問題了這個法治觀念根本不懂好,我們來看一下兩岸協商禁制水域會擴大還是縮小目前的做法是國防部公告禁制水域海巡組執法對不對是\n\n16\n00:05:28,251 --> 00:05:53,645\n如果未來照在野黨的法案通過的話兩岸協商禁限制水域然後來有陸委會公告海巡組執法你覺得目前這個點啊是目前在我們現有的禁限制水域後我們海警對岸的海警船入侵的軌跡點至少目前還維持著他們不敢越線如果未來禁限制水域縮小的話或對方不跟你協商的話你覺得會面臨到什麼樣的情況\n\n17\n00:05:55,326 --> 00:06:11,155\n這個涉及到國家主權的問題這不是可以協商陸方可以得來的所以我們堅持這是我們國家主權區的展現所以我們看到了如果說在現在我們有法律的授權之下我們海巡署還可以維持這樣的海域我們國家主權\n\n18\n00:06:11,815 --> 00:06:34,554\n如果這個上面的法律更動了,海巡恐怕沒有辦法執法了我們更很難去打擊兩岸的走私,是不是?是好,那我現在再問,接下來請財政部長準備,來我們看一下反海上走私,海巡準備好了嗎?有沒有看過這樣的一個國內媒體報導用科技的無人船,來協助我們做這些海域,有高風險海域的巡邏\n\n19\n00:06:35,815 --> 00:07:01,750\n韓總統有沒有去探究類似的計畫昨天前天你們探究一個快期計畫是中科院的你們有派員去看嘛我們當上之後才看賴總統去看高雄港的操演嘛那這個東西你們有沒有引進我們不僅在特別特別條例草案我們爭取兩百六十億的經費我們在公共建設也同樣的我們也爭取經費那麼以後不僅是要強化岸海健身設備航外線也包括立體徵收無人機\n\n20\n00:07:03,251 --> 00:07:23,445\n還有水面的無人載具所以結論兩個請你承諾請海軍委員運用無人載具強化我國禁限制水域的執法方案可以嗎是包括海底電纜還有對於金馬海水域走私倉決的情況我們應該用無人載具去反制可以嗎是我都略不考量是謝謝我們接下來請我們財政部\n\n21\n00:07:30,297 --> 00:07:48,388\n兩位長官專部長陳署長以及瘦署長部長這些新聞事件啊告訴我們一個社會現象很多年輕的家長你看很看到的虐嬰對不對幼兒園的性侵補習班不減反增這說明了什麼\n\n22\n00:07:49,659 --> 00:08:02,762\n所以目前我們現在的家長在養育子女的過程當中從三歲之前的托嬰到三到六歲的幼兒照顧到六到十二歲這些課後的照顧是不是都是我們現在家長越來越依賴\n\n23\n00:08:04,712 --> 00:08:12,394\n所以政府有沒有義務責任要來推動協助家長減輕他們負擔為什麼我是問你不是問邱部長因為這個議題邱部長很熟悉但是莊部長你要了解苦民所苦往下看\n\n24\n00:08:28,035 --> 00:08:44,123\n所以當我們看到勞動部已經在昨天在修改原意彈性的月薪假讓企業可以臨時排班也防止企業拒絕家長他能夠照顧嬰幼兒而我們目前財政部我們的學齡前的特別扣除額擴大到6歲對不對\n\n25\n00:08:45,749 --> 00:09:02,820\n這最近財政部做的嘛是不是那是不是說六歲以下的第一名15萬第二名再加50%是不是對第二名第三名都是但是我們說到了未來幼托和子女育兒的對育兒子女的要求不是只有三歲之前對不對\n\n26\n00:09:04,628 --> 00:09:26,104\n也不是只有六歲之前對不對當然孩子是很成長的過程現在我們看到市場的趨勢這些課後的安親班如雨後春筍的取代了過去我們考高中大學的聯考補習班說明了一件事情12歲以下的學齡兒童成為我們目前年輕父母他最大的負擔你同意嗎\n\n27\n00:09:27,174 --> 00:09:40,251\n是確實育兒的經費是比較好那政府如何怎麼分攤照顧6到12歲的呢邱部長他想講不用了我們都做很多政府呢就是我們學年兒童國家跟你分攤一起照顧財政部可以做什麼莊部長\n\n28\n00:09:41,425 --> 00:10:09,819\n我想財政部的地方當然就是除了稅負的部分之外不是除了稅負的部分就是稅負的部分來請你針對這部分來我們下一題國有財產的相關的提供都有各種優惠的措施國有財產的土地要來釋出這是一個啦但是要知道目前年輕家長他托育的需求大概都跟我們的國有地不是那麼接近所以最好做的最容易做的就是特別扣除額特別扣除額可不可以擴散到12歲\n\n29\n00:10:11,977 --> 00:10:40,324\n委員這個建議我們要做一個評估是做一個評估來現在對不起本來想讓邱部長休息一下邱部長你們是不是有呼籲家有未滿12歲的兒童要做到一步二要不要讓孩子獨處抽空陪孩子每天抱抱孩子有沒有這是很重要的事情那我們財政部我們沒辦法幫家長陪孩子沒辦法抱抱孩子但是我們財政部是可以做到讓家長\n\n30\n00:10:41,656 --> 00:11:04,434\n避免孩子獨處送到6到12歲送到客戶安親班的時候他這樣的費用可不可以國家幫他減負擔莊部長我想這個部分相關的一些經費以及用什麼樣的方式支出都需要審慎的評估是的財政部左手右手啦你左手收稅右手交給衛福部擴大我們的客戶照顧擴大我們的\n\n31\n00:11:05,732 --> 00:11:22,450\n托育的費用對不對所以邱部長你現在放在托育政府照顧協助這樣托育的錢是不是財政部去籌來的是是嗎那如果要你不斷的擴大你的照顧範圍另外一方是財政部給你租稅優惠讓我們家有12歲以下看最後一頁\n\n32\n00:11:23,513 --> 00:11:49,770\n是不是研議將幼兒的學前特別扣除額擴大為兒童特別扣除額不是幼兒扣除額適用年齡擴大到12歲以下並提交評估報告可不可以提交評估報告喔要隨時評估喔是是多久以前可以多久之內可以我想至少兩個月吧好給我們兩個月的時間兩個月的時間看看明年報所得稅會來得及好不好兩位部長支持這個計畫吧支持這個方案吧邱部長支持不支持\n\n33\n00:11:50,807 --> 00:12:03,099\n站在兒童照顧的立場我們當然是很好的謝謝莊部長聽到邱部長的話沒有你不幫忙減這個稅你要多付錢給他謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝莊委員的執行下一位請賴會員召委執行請\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n369\t28540\t會長 工作夥伴 媒體記者 女士先生我們先請邱部長和食藥署的王副署長待會我們就請海巡署的謝副署長以及我們財政部的莊部長和國庫署的胡瑞署的兩位署長委員好部長 剛剛我覺得賴委員 賴昭偉的質詢非常精彩空面探針之前台灣有辦法製造目前的這種口罩嗎 有沒有能力\n29522\t53040\t有沒有在做?COVID-19之前有嗎?世界主要的口罩跟誰買的?世界上主要的這種COVID-19防護口罩,當時都是跟中國買的啦後來台灣趕快的進口那樣的一個表面噴劑,我們才有辦法自製嘛對不對?血袋是不是一個比較低階的產品?全世界大概其中在哪幾家工廠生產,你知道嗎?\n54466\t76797\t副組長跟他講一下副組長剛剛委員報告全世界主要是日本美國跟歐洲有在生產是的所以整個全球化經濟的結果大概這些醫材如果不是很通用性的醫材有些就是少數的國家少數的工廠在製造但是剛剛委員召委的諮詢前台灣要有備戰的準備包括我們的\n78072\t88357\t部立醫院的地下室要做緊急的傷患修製包括我們這些會需要用到的醫材要趕快自主籌措自主證到的能力部長能不能做到\n90247\t114414\t剛剛醫事室也有報告齁,在我們準備的藥材、醫材都有準備十萬人份的一個急救另外當我們準備這個時候呢,你要想到什麼?去化因為這些東西都有保存期限的所以你解決你的緊急存量之後,你要思考到定期的推陳出新的去化當然這是管理藥品一定要的事我們給你一個報告,給你一個書面報告好,那我先問謝副組長謝副組長\n119947\t138756\t請問 目前我們看一下 為什麼金門海域走私日漸長久 我們看到新聞啊遊艇喔 金門的遊艇會到中國海域走私喔把台灣的一些東西 在非法運送電子產品運到中國去啊還有什麼 澳洲的龍蝦怎麼到中國的是透過金門馬祖從台灣這邊把龍蝦進到中國去啊\n142998\t169411\t包括這些顯卡科技產品這些包括無人機的晶片都用漁船搬貨副組長你們有沒有抓到過我們抓到非常多非常多嗎是所以這是一個嚴重的問題我們往下看接下來我們看到這兩天這個是密集的報導灰色海域變成了中國大中國的走私產地越容易來我們看看越靠近中國越容易\n170111\t192665\t基本上是台灣的漁民跟中國下單他們在福建養成陳輩綁成浮球在海上丟包馬祖的漁民領獲在馬祖海域綻放然後變成台灣的牡蠣有沒有這樣的情況馬祖沒有超過列案 有有嘛 馬祖本來的產量是148公噸2023年結果去年馬祖向往台灣的牡蠣多少1500噸啊你們不覺得可疑嗎\n196192\t214055\t有沒有跟農業部去查一下到底馬達族哪些人在養牡蠣這不僅跟地方漁業主管機關也跟中央主管機關我們都協調過我們在查計畫全力以赴另外呢我們希望從源頭管理包括產銷履歷等等是的 那產銷履歷那就是農業部的事金馬的海域\n215737\t226542\t兩邊共同去管理的海域就成為兩邊走私的一個漏洞我們想要看現在我們看到金下海域有一個違規的磕棚是不是是現在金門縣政府有辦法去拆嗎\n228696\t247870\t這個是非法漁業行為我們建議金門縣政府要依照漁業法聽到沒有 你們建議金門縣政府海巡署可以去執行嗎 不是嘛拆客架不是你們的事情嗎我們負責漁業界入船好 你們負責漁業界的包括說拆除的話有安全顧慮的話我們全程戒護都沒有問題所以現在執法的困難在哪裡\n249010\t258173\t跟委員報告這個距離剛好它核損的地方各2公頃96跟100年各2公頃只有4公頃剛好在我們檳榔嶼就是在淨線水域線上就在旁邊距離廈門1.7箱是\n266777\t290153\t淨線水域如果模糊是不是走資越容易所以我們強制執法 嚴正執法但是你執法還要法是怎麼定 我們來看一下現在有在野黨立委主張兩岸協商 金馬的淨制水域要內海化怎麼說 前項限制或禁止水域由海洋委員公告之但是他是怎樣 他把淡化組言到說這些地方\n291803\t308915\t要跟陸方透過協商定出陸方承認的我國司法行政有效水準是這樣嗎你覺得可以接受嗎我們不同意因為這個案子涉及到國家安全國防策略還有區域的發展那這部分不是單單執法而已是\n309355\t326850\t是,所以我們看到在野黨的他的關係文化立法理由說1949年以來的內戰狀態其實我們解決洞刊之後就沒有什麼內戰的問題了這個法治觀念根本不懂好,我們來看一下兩岸協商禁制水域會擴大還是縮小目前的做法是國防部公告禁制水域海巡組執法對不對是\n328251\t353645\t如果未來照在野黨的法案通過的話兩岸協商禁限制水域然後來有陸委會公告海巡組執法你覺得目前這個點啊是目前在我們現有的禁限制水域後我們海警對岸的海警船入侵的軌跡點至少目前還維持著他們不敢越線如果未來禁限制水域縮小的話或對方不跟你協商的話你覺得會面臨到什麼樣的情況\n355326\t371155\t這個涉及到國家主權的問題這不是可以協商陸方可以得來的所以我們堅持這是我們國家主權區的展現所以我們看到了如果說在現在我們有法律的授權之下我們海巡署還可以維持這樣的海域我們國家主權\n371815\t394554\t如果這個上面的法律更動了,海巡恐怕沒有辦法執法了我們更很難去打擊兩岸的走私,是不是?是好,那我現在再問,接下來請財政部長準備,來我們看一下反海上走私,海巡準備好了嗎?有沒有看過這樣的一個國內媒體報導用科技的無人船,來協助我們做這些海域,有高風險海域的巡邏\n395815\t421750\t韓總統有沒有去探究類似的計畫昨天前天你們探究一個快期計畫是中科院的你們有派員去看嘛我們當上之後才看賴總統去看高雄港的操演嘛那這個東西你們有沒有引進我們不僅在特別特別條例草案我們爭取兩百六十億的經費我們在公共建設也同樣的我們也爭取經費那麼以後不僅是要強化岸海健身設備航外線也包括立體徵收無人機\n423251\t443445\t還有水面的無人載具所以結論兩個請你承諾請海軍委員運用無人載具強化我國禁限制水域的執法方案可以嗎是包括海底電纜還有對於金馬海水域走私倉決的情況我們應該用無人載具去反制可以嗎是我都略不考量是謝謝我們接下來請我們財政部\n450297\t468388\t兩位長官 專部長陳署長 以及瘦署長部長 這些新聞事件啊告訴我們一個社會現象很多年輕的家長你看很看到的 虐嬰對不對 幼兒園的性侵補習班不減反增這說明了什麼\n469659\t482762\t所以目前我們現在的家長在養育子女的過程當中從三歲之前的托嬰到三到六歲的幼兒照顧到六到十二歲這些課後的照顧是不是都是我們現在家長越來越依賴\n484712\t492394\t所以政府有沒有義務責任要來推動 協助家長減輕他們負擔為什麼我是問你不是問邱部長 因為這個議題邱部長很熟悉但是莊部長你要了解苦民所苦往下看\n508035\t524123\t所以當我們看到勞動部已經在昨天在修改原意彈性的月薪假讓企業可以臨時排班也防止企業拒絕家長他能夠照顧嬰幼兒而我們目前財政部我們的學齡前的特別扣除額擴大到6歲對不對\n525749\t542820\t這最近財政部做的嘛是不是那是不是說六歲以下的第一名15萬第二名再加50%是不是對第二名第三名都是但是我們說到了未來幼托和子女育兒的對育兒子女的要求不是只有三歲之前對不對\n544628\t566104\t也不是只有六歲之前對不對當然孩子是很成長的過程現在我們看到市場的趨勢這些課後的安親班如雨後春筍的取代了過去我們考高中大學的聯考補習班說明了一件事情12歲以下的學齡兒童成為我們目前年輕父母他最大的負擔你同意嗎\n567174\t580251\t是確實育兒的經費是比較好那政府如何怎麼分攤照顧6到12歲的呢邱部長他想講不用了我們都做很多政府呢就是我們學年兒童國家跟你分攤一起照顧財政部可以做什麼莊部長\n581425\t609819\t我想財政部的地方當然就是除了稅負的部分之外不是除了稅負的部分就是稅負的部分來請你針對這部分來我們下一題國有財產的相關的提供都有各種優惠的措施國有財產的土地要來釋出這是一個啦但是要知道目前年輕家長他托育的需求大概都跟我們的國有地不是那麼接近所以最好做的最容易做的就是特別扣除額特別扣除額可不可以擴散到12歲\n611977\t640324\t委員這個建議我們要做一個評估是做一個評估來現在對不起本來想讓邱部長休息一下邱部長你們是不是有呼籲家有未滿12歲的兒童要做到一步二要不要讓孩子獨處抽空陪孩子每天抱抱孩子有沒有這是很重要的事情那我們財政部我們沒辦法幫家長陪孩子沒辦法抱抱孩子但是我們財政部是可以做到讓家長\n641656\t664434\t避免孩子獨處送到6到12歲送到客戶安親班的時候他這樣的費用可不可以國家幫他減負擔莊部長我想這個部分相關的一些經費以及用什麼樣的方式支出都需要審慎的評估是的財政部左手右手啦你左手收稅右手交給衛福部擴大我們的客戶照顧擴大我們的\n665732\t682450\t托育的費用對不對所以邱部長你現在放在托育政府照顧協助這樣托育的錢是不是財政部去籌來的是是嗎那如果要你不斷的擴大你的照顧範圍另外一方是財政部給你租稅優惠讓我們家有12歲以下看最後一頁\n683513\t709770\t是不是研議將幼兒的學前特別扣除額擴大為兒童特別扣除額不是幼兒扣除額適用年齡擴大到12歲以下並提交評估報告可不可以提交評估報告喔 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澳洲的龍蝦怎麼到中國的是透過金門馬祖從台灣這邊把龍蝦進到中國去啊\n包括這些顯卡科技產品這些包括無人機的晶片都用漁船搬貨副組長你們有沒有抓到過我們抓到非常多非常多嗎是所以這是一個嚴重的問題我們往下看接下來我們看到這兩天這個是密集的報導灰色海域變成了中國大中國的走私產地越容易來我們看看越靠近中國越容易\n基本上是台灣的漁民跟中國下單他們在福建養成陳輩綁成浮球在海上丟包馬祖的漁民領獲在馬祖海域綻放然後變成台灣的牡蠣有沒有這樣的情況馬祖沒有超過列案 有有嘛 馬祖本來的產量是148公噸2023年結果去年馬祖向往台灣的牡蠣多少1500噸啊你們不覺得可疑嗎\n有沒有跟農業部去查一下到底馬達族哪些人在養牡蠣這不僅跟地方漁業主管機關也跟中央主管機關我們都協調過我們在查計畫全力以赴另外呢我們希望從源頭管理包括產銷履歷等等是的 那產銷履歷那就是農業部的事金馬的海域\n兩邊共同去管理的海域就成為兩邊走私的一個漏洞我們想要看現在我們看到金下海域有一個違規的磕棚是不是是現在金門縣政府有辦法去拆嗎\n這個是非法漁業行為我們建議金門縣政府要依照漁業法聽到沒有 你們建議金門縣政府海巡署可以去執行嗎 不是嘛拆客架不是你們的事情嗎我們負責漁業界入船好 你們負責漁業界的包括說拆除的話有安全顧慮的話我們全程戒護都沒有問題所以現在執法的困難在哪裡\n跟委員報告這個距離剛好它核損的地方各2公頃96跟100年各2公頃只有4公頃剛好在我們檳榔嶼就是在淨線水域線上就在旁邊距離廈門1.7箱是\n淨線水域如果模糊是不是走資越容易所以我們強制執法 嚴正執法但是你執法還要法是怎麼定 我們來看一下現在有在野黨立委主張兩岸協商 金馬的淨制水域要內海化怎麼說 前項限制或禁止水域由海洋委員公告之但是他是怎樣 他把淡化組言到說這些地方\n要跟陸方透過協商定出陸方承認的我國司法行政有效水準是這樣嗎你覺得可以接受嗎我們不同意因為這個案子涉及到國家安全國防策略還有區域的發展那這部分不是單單執法而已是\n是,所以我們看到在野黨的他的關係文化立法理由說1949年以來的內戰狀態其實我們解決洞刊之後就沒有什麼內戰的問題了這個法治觀念根本不懂好,我們來看一下兩岸協商禁制水域會擴大還是縮小目前的做法是國防部公告禁制水域海巡組執法對不對是\n如果未來照在野黨的法案通過的話兩岸協商禁限制水域然後來有陸委會公告海巡組執法你覺得目前這個點啊是目前在我們現有的禁限制水域後我們海警對岸的海警船入侵的軌跡點至少目前還維持著他們不敢越線如果未來禁限制水域縮小的話或對方不跟你協商的話你覺得會面臨到什麼樣的情況\n這個涉及到國家主權的問題這不是可以協商陸方可以得來的所以我們堅持這是我們國家主權區的展現所以我們看到了如果說在現在我們有法律的授權之下我們海巡署還可以維持這樣的海域我們國家主權\n如果這個上面的法律更動了,海巡恐怕沒有辦法執法了我們更很難去打擊兩岸的走私,是不是?是好,那我現在再問,接下來請財政部長準備,來我們看一下反海上走私,海巡準備好了嗎?有沒有看過這樣的一個國內媒體報導用科技的無人船,來協助我們做這些海域,有高風險海域的巡邏\n韓總統有沒有去探究類似的計畫昨天前天你們探究一個快期計畫是中科院的你們有派員去看嘛我們當上之後才看賴總統去看高雄港的操演嘛那這個東西你們有沒有引進我們不僅在特別特別條例草案我們爭取兩百六十億的經費我們在公共建設也同樣的我們也爭取經費那麼以後不僅是要強化岸海健身設備航外線也包括立體徵收無人機\n還有水面的無人載具所以結論兩個請你承諾請海軍委員運用無人載具強化我國禁限制水域的執法方案可以嗎是包括海底電纜還有對於金馬海水域走私倉決的情況我們應該用無人載具去反制可以嗎是我都略不考量是謝謝我們接下來請我們財政部\n兩位長官 專部長陳署長 以及瘦署長部長 這些新聞事件啊告訴我們一個社會現象很多年輕的家長你看很看到的 虐嬰對不對 幼兒園的性侵補習班不減反增這說明了什麼\n所以目前我們現在的家長在養育子女的過程當中從三歲之前的托嬰到三到六歲的幼兒照顧到六到十二歲這些課後的照顧是不是都是我們現在家長越來越依賴\n所以政府有沒有義務責任要來推動 協助家長減輕他們負擔為什麼我是問你不是問邱部長 因為這個議題邱部長很熟悉但是莊部長你要了解苦民所苦往下看\n所以當我們看到勞動部已經在昨天在修改原意彈性的月薪假讓企業可以臨時排班也防止企業拒絕家長他能夠照顧嬰幼兒而我們目前財政部我們的學齡前的特別扣除額擴大到6歲對不對\n這最近財政部做的嘛是不是那是不是說六歲以下的第一名15萬第二名再加50%是不是對第二名第三名都是但是我們說到了未來幼托和子女育兒的對育兒子女的要求不是只有三歲之前對不對\n也不是只有六歲之前對不對當然孩子是很成長的過程現在我們看到市場的趨勢這些課後的安親班如雨後春筍的取代了過去我們考高中大學的聯考補習班說明了一件事情12歲以下的學齡兒童成為我們目前年輕父母他最大的負擔你同意嗎\n是確實育兒的經費是比較好那政府如何怎麼分攤照顧6到12歲的呢邱部長他想講不用了我們都做很多政府呢就是我們學年兒童國家跟你分攤一起照顧財政部可以做什麼莊部長\n我想財政部的地方當然就是除了稅負的部分之外不是除了稅負的部分就是稅負的部分來請你針對這部分來我們下一題國有財產的相關的提供都有各種優惠的措施國有財產的土地要來釋出這是一個啦但是要知道目前年輕家長他托育的需求大概都跟我們的國有地不是那麼接近所以最好做的最容易做的就是特別扣除額特別扣除額可不可以擴散到12歲\n委員這個建議我們要做一個評估是做一個評估來現在對不起本來想讓邱部長休息一下邱部長你們是不是有呼籲家有未滿12歲的兒童要做到一步二要不要讓孩子獨處抽空陪孩子每天抱抱孩子有沒有這是很重要的事情那我們財政部我們沒辦法幫家長陪孩子沒辦法抱抱孩子但是我們財政部是可以做到讓家長\n避免孩子獨處送到6到12歲送到客戶安親班的時候他這樣的費用可不可以國家幫他減負擔莊部長我想這個部分相關的一些經費以及用什麼樣的方式支出都需要審慎的評估是的財政部左手右手啦你左手收稅右手交給衛福部擴大我們的客戶照顧擴大我們的\n托育的費用對不對所以邱部長你現在放在托育政府照顧協助這樣托育的錢是不是財政部去籌來的是是嗎那如果要你不斷的擴大你的照顧範圍另外一方是財政部給你租稅優惠讓我們家有12歲以下看最後一頁\n是不是研議將幼兒的學前特別扣除額擴大為兒童特別扣除額不是幼兒扣除額適用年齡擴大到12歲以下並提交評估報告可不可以提交評估報告喔 要隨時評估喔是是多久以前可以 多久之內可以我想至少兩個月吧好 給我們兩個月的時間兩個月的時間 看看明年報所得稅會來得及好不好兩位部長支持這個計畫吧 支持這個方案吧邱部長 支持不支持\n站在兒童照顧的立場我們當然是很好的謝謝 莊部長聽到邱部長的話沒有你不幫忙減這個稅你要多付錢給他 謝謝謝謝委員好 謝謝莊委員的執行 下一位請賴會員召委執行 請\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.369 --> 00:28.540\n會長工作夥伴媒體記者女士先生我們先請邱部長和食藥署的王副署長待會我們就請海巡署的謝副署長以及我們財政部的莊部長和國庫署的胡瑞署的兩位署長委員好部長剛剛我覺得賴委員賴昭偉的質詢非常精彩空面探針之前台灣有辦法製造目前的這種口罩嗎有沒有能力\n\n00:29.522 --> 00:53.040\n有沒有在做?COVID-19之前有嗎?世界主要的口罩跟誰買的?世界上主要的這種COVID-19防護口罩,當時都是跟中國買的啦後來台灣趕快的進口那樣的一個表面噴劑,我們才有辦法自製嘛對不對?血袋是不是一個比較低階的產品?全世界大概其中在哪幾家工廠生產,你知道嗎?\n\n00:54.466 --> 01:16.797\n副組長跟他講一下副組長剛剛委員報告全世界主要是日本美國跟歐洲有在生產是的所以整個全球化經濟的結果大概這些醫材如果不是很通用性的醫材有些就是少數的國家少數的工廠在製造但是剛剛委員召委的諮詢前台灣要有備戰的準備包括我們的\n\n01:18.072 --> 01:28.357\n部立醫院的地下室要做緊急的傷患修製包括我們這些會需要用到的醫材要趕快自主籌措自主證到的能力部長能不能做到\n\n01:30.247 --> 01:54.414\n剛剛醫事室也有報告齁,在我們準備的藥材、醫材都有準備十萬人份的一個急救另外當我們準備這個時候呢,你要想到什麼?去化因為這些東西都有保存期限的所以你解決你的緊急存量之後,你要思考到定期的推陳出新的去化當然這是管理藥品一定要的事我們給你一個報告,給你一個書面報告好,那我先問謝副組長謝副組長\n\n01:59.947 --> 02:18.756\n請問目前我們看一下為什麼金門海域走私日漸長久我們看到新聞啊遊艇喔金門的遊艇會到中國海域走私喔把台灣的一些東西在非法運送電子產品運到中國去啊還有什麼澳洲的龍蝦怎麼到中國的是透過金門馬祖從台灣這邊把龍蝦進到中國去啊\n\n02:22.998 --> 02:49.411\n包括這些顯卡科技產品這些包括無人機的晶片都用漁船搬貨副組長你們有沒有抓到過我們抓到非常多非常多嗎是所以這是一個嚴重的問題我們往下看接下來我們看到這兩天這個是密集的報導灰色海域變成了中國大中國的走私產地越容易來我們看看越靠近中國越容易\n\n02:50.111 --> 03:12.665\n基本上是台灣的漁民跟中國下單他們在福建養成陳輩綁成浮球在海上丟包馬祖的漁民領獲在馬祖海域綻放然後變成台灣的牡蠣有沒有這樣的情況馬祖沒有超過列案有有嘛馬祖本來的產量是148公噸2023年結果去年馬祖向往台灣的牡蠣多少1500噸啊你們不覺得可疑嗎\n\n03:16.192 --> 03:34.055\n有沒有跟農業部去查一下到底馬達族哪些人在養牡蠣這不僅跟地方漁業主管機關也跟中央主管機關我們都協調過我們在查計畫全力以赴另外呢我們希望從源頭管理包括產銷履歷等等是的那產銷履歷那就是農業部的事金馬的海域\n\n03:35.737 --> 03:46.542\n兩邊共同去管理的海域就成為兩邊走私的一個漏洞我們想要看現在我們看到金下海域有一個違規的磕棚是不是是現在金門縣政府有辦法去拆嗎\n\n03:48.696 --> 04:07.870\n這個是非法漁業行為我們建議金門縣政府要依照漁業法聽到沒有你們建議金門縣政府海巡署可以去執行嗎不是嘛拆客架不是你們的事情嗎我們負責漁業界入船好你們負責漁業界的包括說拆除的話有安全顧慮的話我們全程戒護都沒有問題所以現在執法的困難在哪裡\n\n04:09.010 --> 04:18.173\n跟委員報告這個距離剛好它核損的地方各2公頃96跟100年各2公頃只有4公頃剛好在我們檳榔嶼就是在淨線水域線上就在旁邊距離廈門1.7箱是\n\n04:26.777 --> 04:50.153\n淨線水域如果模糊是不是走資越容易所以我們強制執法嚴正執法但是你執法還要法是怎麼定我們來看一下現在有在野黨立委主張兩岸協商金馬的淨制水域要內海化怎麼說前項限制或禁止水域由海洋委員公告之但是他是怎樣他把淡化組言到說這些地方\n\n04:51.803 --> 05:08.915\n要跟陸方透過協商定出陸方承認的我國司法行政有效水準是這樣嗎你覺得可以接受嗎我們不同意因為這個案子涉及到國家安全國防策略還有區域的發展那這部分不是單單執法而已是\n\n05:09.355 --> 05:26.850\n是,所以我們看到在野黨的他的關係文化立法理由說1949年以來的內戰狀態其實我們解決洞刊之後就沒有什麼內戰的問題了這個法治觀念根本不懂好,我們來看一下兩岸協商禁制水域會擴大還是縮小目前的做法是國防部公告禁制水域海巡組執法對不對是\n\n05:28.251 --> 05:53.645\n如果未來照在野黨的法案通過的話兩岸協商禁限制水域然後來有陸委會公告海巡組執法你覺得目前這個點啊是目前在我們現有的禁限制水域後我們海警對岸的海警船入侵的軌跡點至少目前還維持著他們不敢越線如果未來禁限制水域縮小的話或對方不跟你協商的話你覺得會面臨到什麼樣的情況\n\n05:55.326 --> 06:11.155\n這個涉及到國家主權的問題這不是可以協商陸方可以得來的所以我們堅持這是我們國家主權區的展現所以我們看到了如果說在現在我們有法律的授權之下我們海巡署還可以維持這樣的海域我們國家主權\n\n06:11.815 --> 06:34.554\n如果這個上面的法律更動了,海巡恐怕沒有辦法執法了我們更很難去打擊兩岸的走私,是不是?是好,那我現在再問,接下來請財政部長準備,來我們看一下反海上走私,海巡準備好了嗎?有沒有看過這樣的一個國內媒體報導用科技的無人船,來協助我們做這些海域,有高風險海域的巡邏\n\n06:35.815 --> 07:01.750\n韓總統有沒有去探究類似的計畫昨天前天你們探究一個快期計畫是中科院的你們有派員去看嘛我們當上之後才看賴總統去看高雄港的操演嘛那這個東西你們有沒有引進我們不僅在特別特別條例草案我們爭取兩百六十億的經費我們在公共建設也同樣的我們也爭取經費那麼以後不僅是要強化岸海健身設備航外線也包括立體徵收無人機\n\n07:03.251 --> 07:23.445\n還有水面的無人載具所以結論兩個請你承諾請海軍委員運用無人載具強化我國禁限制水域的執法方案可以嗎是包括海底電纜還有對於金馬海水域走私倉決的情況我們應該用無人載具去反制可以嗎是我都略不考量是謝謝我們接下來請我們財政部\n\n07:30.297 --> 07:48.388\n兩位長官專部長陳署長以及瘦署長部長這些新聞事件啊告訴我們一個社會現象很多年輕的家長你看很看到的虐嬰對不對幼兒園的性侵補習班不減反增這說明了什麼\n\n07:49.659 --> 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