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00:00:15,093\n好謝謝主席我請一下我們內政部次長還有我們人事長好\n\n2\n00:00:21,467 --> 00:00:48,482\n市長人事長我想請問一下就是我們在整個的新住民發展署這個成立的過程裡面之前一直聽到說有關於滿額的問題就是我們的中央政府三級機關有70個的一個上限所以也一直都有一些協調那這個負責協調的政務委員主要是誰是哪一位\n\n3\n00:00:51,744 --> 00:01:16,021\n是組織面還是顏額面就是在顏額面顏額面是沒有現在上次三級機關我們的上限是70調整為71那我想請問一下之前的政務委員史哲有沒有去協調這方面的就是我們有關於顏額顏額的這個已經滿額的問題有沒有\n\n4\n00:01:18,769 --> 00:01:44,130\n他是主三級機關的上線政委有去行政院內部去協調嗎史哲負責協調嘛對不對所以我真的覺得我們一直等來等去等這個新住民發展署其實很多的新住民朋友已經等得非常不耐煩了可是等來等去呢那你可以看到我們的政務委員史哲去做了高鐵的董事長\n\n5\n00:01:45,391 --> 00:01:58,096\n我們希望說現在能夠加快腳步因為事實上在去年底的時候我們已經把這個原額數提高了所以我想請問一下次長我們的新住民發展署\n\n6\n00:02:03,758 --> 00:02:18,585\n在我們的中央政府中央行政機關組織期準法已經修正通過之後應該可以加快腳步那請問一下到底什麼時候能夠實施那我也想請問因為你們114年度有沒有編列預算\n\n7\n00:02:22,097 --> 00:02:37,572\n跟委員報告我們有先行估算如果說今年成立的話我們會用走追加解我們明年的都已經在籌編概算中所以呢也就是說是可以在115年度來編列預算的\n\n8\n00:02:38,032 --> 00:03:01,352\n我們正在籌編好正在籌編所以我為什麼要去問預算因為你們籌編才代表會有可能落實因為如果你根本沒有編列預算的話說也是白說而已我想請問一下我們這個發展署我們的原額會有多少我們主要的組織架構是什麼\n\n9\n00:03:02,365 --> 00:03:24,841\n我想這邊跟委員報告我們未來的組織架構業務執掌業務緣額還有例如辦公處所跟預算我們都是follow整個新住民基本法的內容去做處理我們目前初步規劃是4個組12個然後正式緣額100人這100人裡面其實大概會有將近50個是由移民署來做移撥另外的話是請證緣額\n\n10\n00:03:26,951 --> 00:03:44,336\n主要是100多位,會不會由移民署移撥到新住民發展署?目前移民署的一些業務本來就是新住民的業務,那這些人就會隨從業務移撥到新住民發展署\n\n11\n00:03:45,212 --> 00:04:01,972\n那請問一下你剛才講的預算的編列是針對新住民發展署的預算編列而不是籌備處的編列吧當然是以署的方式來做編列那你們現在你們的概算大概這個金額會是多少\n\n12\n00:04:02,672 --> 00:04:19,629\n根文報告以今年來講的話如果今年可以成立之後我們預估接下來的下一個半年的部分大概是我們約需大概要一億八千萬那其中也包括新增人事費那未來明年的一一五年的籌編概算我們現在目前年度預算規模大概抓七億\n\n13\n00:04:20,570 --> 00:04:47,767\n就是以115年度是7億是不是對是的所以按照這個你們的預算編列的方式呢就今年下半年度可以成立就是成立籌備處是不是然後正式的掛牌按照你們現在的這樣子估算正式的掛牌運作大概是什麼時間這個我目前還無法估算如果今年只要有成立那應該就是會有走掛牌大概是這樣子\n\n14\n00:04:48,191 --> 00:05:12,538\n所以你就籌備出掛牌而已啊因為不是沒有我們的目標啦我們目標整個因為去年通過之後我們對於發展署所以我們才會說如果說在今年就成立的話我們就是今年下半年就要掛牌今年下半年可以正式的掛牌那因為我們覺得就是說我們一直希望說有一個具體的進度不要那個我們新住民基本法通過之後遲遲一直等不到\n\n15\n00:05:13,158 --> 00:05:26,040\n然後預算也等不到籌備處也等不到所以比較明確今年下半年度是可以讓它正式掛牌就是施行法一施行我們接下來包括組織法包括這個成立我們都會接續照程序來\n\n16\n00:05:26,889 --> 00:05:49,560\n好我們在我們的立法院裡面我們也會盡量能夠希望趕快我們這個相關的組織法趕快通過啦其實我會希望說如果我們朝野大家協商因為我們會進入竹條嘛那其實如果說你們在一些業務上面能夠盡量大家能夠達成一些協議的話那麼這個組織法呢\n\n17\n00:05:53,382 --> 00:06:01,384\n的修正就不需要在立法院還要有什麼一個月的冷凍期就是變成說其實會拖延立法所以我們還是會希望能夠再做加速那另外剛才也有還也有這個委員談到就是我們的這個新住民的這個家庭那麼因為已經超過百萬人但是呢你如果看這些像求職網站他們做的一些調查也就是\n\n18\n00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:45,956\n其實我們因為新住民有些甚至有些被標籤化所以他們能做的一些工作當然不管是製造業或者餐飲服務業或者是清潔啦江庭幫傭那事實上他們的薪資都有比較偏低的問題那而且呢也這個有根據去計算啦就說事實上呢有這個\n\n19\n00:06:47,296 --> 00:07:13,277\n六成就是大概有六成以上他的收入是沒有達四萬元的那所以低薪的問題確實在新住民家庭成為他們一個急需解決的問題所以當然我們希望說能夠讓這個新住民這個發展署能夠及時快速的成立但是即使是在沒有成立之前也希望能夠透過一些輔導的方式\n\n20\n00:07:14,077 --> 00:07:26,685\n加強的方式能讓我們新住民不管是在他的就業的機會或者他的薪資的部分能夠有很多的改善或者能夠提升好不好這個我們會配合勞動部的一個處理我們都會來做\n\n21\n00:07:30,356 --> 00:07:54,686\n不過這個如果我們這個新住民發展署成立之後這些有關勞動部分還是推給勞動部嗎沒有其實目前既有業務有一些就是分工是在勞動部那我們如果說成立新住民發展署那我想我們也有一個科會來負責這個業務對就應該是由我們這個新住民發展署來負責啦不要就是又推給那個勞動部我們都是分工啦好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n7301\t15093\t好謝謝主席我請一下我們內政部次長還有我們人事長好\n21467\t48482\t市長 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對不對所以我真的覺得我們一直等來等去等這個新住民發展署其實很多的新住民朋友已經等得非常不耐煩了可是等來等去呢那你可以看到我們的政務委員史哲去做了高鐵的董事長\n我們希望說現在能夠加快腳步因為事實上在去年底的時候我們已經把這個原額數提高了所以我想請問一下次長我們的新住民發展署\n在我們的中央政府中央行政機關組織期準法已經修正通過之後應該可以加快腳步那請問一下到底什麼時候能夠實施那我也想請問因為你們114年度有沒有編列預算\n跟委員報告我們有先行估算如果說今年成立的話我們會用走追加解我們明年的都已經在籌編概算中所以呢也就是說是可以在115年度來編列預算的\n我們正在籌編好 正在籌編所以我為什麼要去問預算因為你們籌編才代表會有可能落實因為如果你根本沒有編列預算的話說也是白說而已我想請問一下我們這個發展署我們的原額會有多少我們主要的組織架構是什麼\n我想這邊跟委員報告我們未來的組織架構 業務執掌 業務緣額還有例如辦公處所跟預算我們都是follow整個新住民基本法的內容去做處理我們目前初步規劃是4個組12個然後正式緣額100人這100人裡面其實大概會有將近50個是由移民署來做移撥另外的話是請證緣額\n主要是100多位,會不會由移民署移撥到新住民發展署?目前移民署的一些業務本來就是新住民的業務,那這些人就會隨從業務移撥到新住民發展署\n那請問一下你剛才講的預算的編列是針對新住民發展署的預算編列而不是籌備處的編列吧當然是以署的方式來做編列那你們現在你們的概算大概這個金額會是多少\n根文報告以今年來講的話如果今年可以成立之後我們預估接下來的下一個半年的部分大概是我們約需大概要一億八千萬那其中也包括新增人事費那未來明年的一一五年的籌編概算我們現在目前年度預算規模大概抓七億\n就是以115年度是7億 是不是對 是的 所以按照這個你們的預算編列的方式呢就今年下半年度可以成立就是成立籌備處 是不是然後正式的掛牌 按照你們現在的這樣子估算正式的掛牌運作大概是什麼時間這個我目前還無法估算如果今年只要有成立 那應該就是會有走掛牌大概是這樣子\n所以你就籌備出掛牌而已啊因為不是 沒有 我們的目標啦我們目標整個因為去年通過之後我們對於發展署所以我們才會說如果說在今年就成立的話我們就是今年下半年就要掛牌今年下半年可以正式的掛牌那因為我們覺得就是說我們一直希望說有一個具體的進度不要那個我們新住民基本法通過之後遲遲一直等不到\n然後預算也等不到 籌備處也等不到所以比較明確今年下半年度是可以讓它正式掛牌就是施行法一施行我們接下來包括組織法包括這個成立我們都會接續 照程序來\n好 我們在我們的立法院裡面我們也會盡量能夠希望趕快我們這個相關的組織法趕快通過啦其實我會希望說如果我們朝野大家協商因為我們會進入竹條嘛那其實如果說你們在一些業務上面能夠盡量大家能夠達成一些協議的話那麼這個組織法呢\n的修正就不需要在立法院還要有什麼一個月的冷凍期就是變成說其實會拖延立法所以我們還是會希望能夠再做加速那另外剛才也有還也有這個委員談到就是我們的這個新住民的這個家庭那麼因為已經超過百萬人但是呢你如果看這些像求職網站他們做的一些調查也就是\n其實我們因為新住民有些甚至有些被標籤化所以他們能做的一些工作當然不管是製造業或者餐飲服務業或者是清潔啦 江庭幫傭那事實上他們的薪資都有比較偏低的問題那而且呢也這個有根據去計算啦就說事實上呢有這個\n六成就是大概有六成以上他的收入是沒有達四萬元的那所以低薪的問題確實在新住民家庭成為他們一個急需解決的問題所以當然我們希望說能夠讓這個新住民這個發展署能夠及時快速的成立但是即使是在沒有成立之前也希望能夠透過一些輔導的方式\n加強的方式能讓我們新住民不管是在他的就業的機會或者他的薪資的部分能夠有很多的改善或者能夠提升好不好這個我們會配合勞動部的一個處理我們都會來做\n不過這個如果我們這個新住民發展署成立之後這些有關勞動部分還是推給勞動部嗎沒有 其實目前既有業務有一些就是分工是在勞動部那我們如果說成立新住民發展署那我想我們也有一個科會來負責這個業務對 就應該是由我們這個新住民發展署來負責啦不要就是又推給那個勞動部我們都是分工啦好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.301 --> 00:15.093\n好謝謝主席我請一下我們內政部次長還有我們人事長好\n\n00:21.467 --> 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