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00:00:02,671\n好謝謝主席有請次長跟署長請黃次長跟兩位署長哪一位那個矯正署周署長好委員好\n\n2\n00:00:20,841 --> 00:00:42,743\n次長還有署長我們今天會議主題是要談現行預證跟受刑人處遇機制的制度檢討我覺得我們的主席莊昭偉非常的關心這個題目所以他也安排很多的考察對預證的部分所以在這邊我們大家深入來討論怎麼去改善我們現在的預證的問題\n\n3\n00:00:44,895 --> 00:01:02,106\n那也不要負了我們召委的一起苦心一起加油那首先我想請教一下次長跟署長一個很簡單的問題尤其我們署長應該要知道我們現在監所到底收了多少人那設計容量是多少超收了百分之多少哪一間最誇張超收最多\n\n4\n00:01:05,342 --> 00:01:33,283\n報告委員我們核定收容額是60552那目前因為可能詐騙犯他上升了我們大概就突破了6萬人大概超收大概是0.48在之前的我們現在以最新的6月22我們是60945那超收最高是哪個監獄\n\n5\n00:01:34,204 --> 00:01:54,715\n超收最高的這個會變動那以往像桃園監獄是超收嚴重的所以要每個月都要五車的移監以往是桃園監獄是跟高雄二監那目前像桃園女子監獄台北看守所台北監獄都有超收的情況\n\n6\n00:01:55,975 --> 00:02:20,647\n我看到數字是最嚴重的就是桃園女子監獄超收率高達46%其實算是非常嚴重的超收我想請教一下我們署長就是按照法規每個人需要多少的空間我們受刑人法規上收容標準的空間是多少知道嗎空間嗎對空間\n\n7\n00:02:23,667 --> 00:02:52,117\n這個應該是沒有特別規定什麼空間但是每一個機關它的空間有它的歷史的嚴格像桃園監獄它是三合一附設看守所或少年公務所那以往它是桃園地驗的附設看守所的時候它只收300多350左右那350左右因為刑事政策的變監它又成立監獄看守所少管所它最高收到\n\n8\n00:02:52,737 --> 00:03:10,573\n大概2000人但是他的合定收容額是1275人所以他大概都超收5成目前是有再降下來大概是兩三成我看到的那個標準是那個收容標準是每人0.7坪啦那我不知道這個標準是不是剛剛剛剛署長是說實際上是沒有標準\n\n9\n00:03:14,816 --> 00:03:34,642\n那再確認一下好不好因為我看到標準是這個還是有幕僚可以確認一下我們以前是0.7坪扣除這些廁所那個盥洗之外但是所謂的司法改革的時候有建議說要人道化希望能夠比如說\n\n10\n00:03:35,402 --> 00:03:57,482\n至少要超過幾坪一坪或是多少他有做一些建議我們會朝這個方面來努力包括有一些是新建有一些是擴建像八德彰化看守所如果能夠啟用那應該對於北部中部的超收有很大的幫助其實蘇長你剛剛講的就是我要講的重點\n\n11\n00:03:58,993 --> 00:04:10,428\n就以前的標準0.7坪其實都做不到啦那現在新的標準建議是希望能夠更有人道的空間那就還差一大步不知道次長是不是覺得這個努力的空間要怎麼辦\n\n12\n00:04:12,055 --> 00:04:38,366\n跟委員報告因為目前我們現在興建還沒有完全完成的有彰化跟八德剛剛蘇長有講我們目前還有台北看守所跟台北女子看守所會因為新北的園區也會啟動興建改建的工程所以我們會努力來爭取像剛剛特別提到的桃園女子監獄\n\n13\n00:04:39,406 --> 00:05:04,293\n我們也會來爭取增建的計畫也排到我們部裡面的前十來爭取像行政院來爭取中長城的計畫所以說我們因為硬體很多都是接收過去沿用的建築物來說所以它的設防比較難如果不改建新建的話很難改善那我們會視國家財政情況跟我們的規劃一步一步往前走謝謝委員\n\n14\n00:05:05,573 --> 00:05:24,123\n實際上就是要麻煩法務部跟矯正署都再加把勁因為現在其實很多地方坦白講空間真的是不夠那收容有些根本是硬塞進去那也傳出說床位不夠就碎地板的這些種種情形那這其實已經不是矯正根本就是虐待所以我覺得這個是\n\n15\n00:05:25,643 --> 00:05:45,149\n應該我覺得相關單位還是要去檢討改正的地方那麼事實上超收也不只是睡覺級的這個這麼簡單的問題而已啦那收容人之間就會產生很多的摩擦人就是你知道我們人一般是會有一個空間的一個需要的空間感嘛那如果這空間感被破壞的話摩擦跟\n\n16\n00:05:45,970 --> 00:06:02,090\n衝突就會變多像一些自殘暴力事件也會上升那對介護員來說壓力也會變大所以如果說現在我們看到這樣的環境那更不要講還要做什麼的戒癮心理輔導或是一些毒飲飯的一些問題就變得是更\n\n17\n00:06:04,273 --> 00:06:25,203\n實際上就更惡化了所以其實監所的空間它連動的東西我覺得是很多的不是單單只是空間級而已它連動甚至很多的寓所的管理至於說今天真正矯正的一些作為的進行所以這一點剛剛次長有提很多的一些就是監獄的一些計畫希望能夠把步調加快一點\n\n18\n00:06:26,138 --> 00:06:52,390\n好謝委員我們會全力向行政院來爭取好那另外齁這個次長我也要說齁像這個最近齁就發生過一些很多的一些包括性侵啊性騷啊的一些問題啊就在這擁擠空間裡面這已經快要不是個案幾乎是體系問題我想請問一下次長你知道去年齁2024年齁監索性侵性騷擾案件數是多少那相較於過去有提高嗎\n\n19\n00:06:55,171 --> 00:06:58,741\n這個數據我可能要請這個交通署這邊來查一下是喔那署長這邊有掌握嗎\n\n20\n00:07:05,769 --> 00:07:28,814\n目前手上的數據沒有我這邊有幫你查啦我們就這個數據來討論一下有什麼要補充再回後補充給我2024年總共是136件它是創六年的新高也是在過去十年裡的第二高就去年是六年的新高那對比2022年的73件三年之間增加是1.86倍所以\n\n21\n00:07:31,714 --> 00:07:45,264\n嚴格來講其實這個相關的問題是在變得比較相對嚴重的趨勢那我們現在請問一下我們的監所現在有沒有一個全面有效的性侵性騷擾事件的通報SOP\n\n22\n00:07:47,301 --> 00:08:06,453\n還是有很多單綴黑數跟委員報告因為我上任大概一年多去年下半年來到法務部我們的通報系統事實上都非常的健全就是性侵害防治三法新潮這些防治法等等的我們都依照相關的規定來辦理\n\n23\n00:08:07,654 --> 00:08:33,767\n那我想也是因為這個MeToo運動之後大家的權利意識提高我們到現在有時候都還會接到針對過去發生的事情不一定是現在發生他現在來提出申訴跟檢舉那我們都會依照相關的規定當然要對檢舉人來做保密來保護他然後我們也會做客觀的調查機制然後都會成立或不成立的判定之後都有相關的懲處跟處置的規定這樣子\n\n24\n00:08:36,348 --> 00:08:50,923\n好非常謝謝次長我還是要提醒一下其實監鎖狀況跟一般社會情況其實坦白講狀況可能會更嚴峻一點是因為壓力比較大對那裡面的話壓力也大那被害人可能會不敢講因為在那個地方基本上他\n\n25\n00:08:51,543 --> 00:09:19,337\n可能會跑不掉然後也怕被報復所以有時候像在監所裡面類似的問題其實往往會被押很多黑屬菌所以這個可能是要特別注意就像說2022年高雄監獄就發生男性收容能遭到其他六名男育有集體霸凌跟性侵的案件那這個月月初你也看到金週刊也報導收到台東高雄嘉義台北監獄收容人的投訴\n\n26\n00:09:20,658 --> 00:09:37,955\n那包括這個管理員的一個所謂的那個性侵然後預方卻沒有把加害人調職然後有長官方任管理員用暴力的方式教育受刑人那縱容管理員未依規定請假或兼職拉幫結派誣陷受刑人等等\n\n27\n00:09:38,636 --> 00:10:04,682\n那這些問題我想請教一下署長那這種類似的問題像當然目前是媒體揭露啦那我不知道我們的現在矯正署還有那個御所方面所方方面的話現在面對這個問題是怎麼樣去來改進的報告委員針對媒體所謂揭露的這些事件我們署裡面都有去調查了解而且也做發布新聞稿做一些回應說明了\n\n28\n00:10:05,862 --> 00:10:22,186\n那另外補充就是我現在手頭上有剛剛委員執行到的性侵跟性騷擾的矯正機關的通報案件大概以今年來講是136件去年113年是136件今年是1到5月統計是54件在以往大概是100件左右\n\n29\n00:10:33,091 --> 00:10:56,847\n從105年開始有這些相關統計大概100件左右反正跟您說一下就說136件是10年來次高大概最高一次是107年的140件那105年2016年是88件那實際上中間有高高低低但是確實在去年它的數字是相對比較高的所以這個要提醒大家注意一下\n\n30\n00:10:57,458 --> 00:11:21,544\n那另外最後還是要講就是說這些獄政的改革其實牽涉到就是包括他所矯正的成效啦那也包括他在獄所內監獄裡面犯罪的防治的問題那相關的問題其實都要需要大家再加把勁再努力不然類似像那個週刊報導這種情況層出不窮其實對也不是我們今天監獄管理之福啦以上謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n970\t2671\t好 謝謝主席有請次長跟署長請黃次長跟兩位署長 哪一位那個矯正署 周署長好 委員好\n20841\t42743\t次長還有署長我們今天會議主題是要談現行預證跟受刑人處遇機制的制度檢討我覺得我們的主席莊昭偉非常的關心這個題目所以他也安排很多的考察對預證的部分所以在這邊我們大家深入來討論怎麼去改善我們現在的預證的問題\n44895\t62106\t那也不要負了我們召委的一起苦心一起加油那首先我想請教一下次長跟署長一個很簡單的問題尤其我們署長應該要知道我們現在監所到底收了多少人那設計容量是多少 超收了百分之多少哪一間最誇張 超收最多\n65342\t93283\t報告委員我們核定收容額是60552那目前因為可能詐騙犯他上升了我們大概就突破了6萬人大概超收大概是0.48在之前的我們現在以最新的6月22我們是60945那超收最高是哪個監獄\n94204\t114715\t超收最高的這個會變動那以往像桃園監獄是超收嚴重的所以要每個月都要五車的移監以往是桃園監獄是跟高雄二監那目前像桃園女子監獄台北看守所台北監獄都有超收的情況\n115975\t140647\t我看到數字是最嚴重的就是桃園女子監獄超收率高達46%其實算是非常嚴重的超收我想請教一下我們署長就是按照法規每個人需要多少的空間我們受刑人法規上收容標準的空間是多少知道嗎空間嗎對 空間\n143667\t172117\t這個應該是沒有特別規定什麼空間但是每一個機關它的空間有它的歷史的嚴格像桃園監獄它是三合一附設看守所或少年公務所那以往它是桃園地驗的附設看守所的時候它只收300多350左右那350左右因為刑事政策的變監它又成立監獄看守所 少管所它最高收到\n172737\t190573\t大概2000人但是他的合定收容額是1275人所以他大概都超收5成目前是有再降下來大概是兩三成我看到的那個標準是那個收容標準是每人0.7坪啦那我不知道這個標準是不是剛剛剛剛署長是說實際上是沒有標準\n194816\t214642\t那再確認一下好不好因為我看到標準是這個還是有幕僚可以確認一下我們以前是0.7坪扣除這些廁所那個盥洗之外但是所謂的司法改革的時候有建議說要人道化希望能夠比如說\n215402\t237482\t至少要超過幾坪一坪或是多少他有做一些建議我們會朝這個方面來努力包括有一些是新建有一些是擴建像八德彰化看守所如果能夠啟用那應該對於北部中部的超收有很大的幫助其實蘇長你剛剛講的就是我要講的重點\n238993\t250428\t就以前的標準0.7坪其實都做不到啦那現在新的標準建議是希望能夠更有人道的空間那就還差一大步不知道次長是不是覺得這個努力的空間要怎麼辦\n252055\t278366\t跟委員報告因為目前我們現在興建還沒有完全完成的有彰化跟八德剛剛蘇長有講我們目前還有台北看守所跟台北女子看守所會因為新北的園區也會啟動興建改建的工程所以我們會努力來爭取像剛剛特別提到的桃園女子監獄\n279406\t304293\t我們也會來爭取增建的計畫也排到我們部裡面的前十來爭取像行政院來爭取中長城的計畫所以說我們因為硬體很多都是接收過去沿用的建築物來說所以它的設防比較難如果不改建 新建的話很難改善那我們會視國家財政情況跟我們的規劃一步一步往前走謝謝委員\n305573\t324123\t實際上就是要麻煩法務部跟矯正署都再加把勁因為現在其實很多地方坦白講空間真的是不夠那收容有些根本是硬塞進去那也傳出說床位不夠就碎地板的這些種種情形那這其實已經不是矯正根本就是虐待所以我覺得這個是\n325643\t345149\t應該我覺得相關單位還是要去檢討改正的地方那麼事實上超收也不只是睡覺級的這個這麼簡單的問題而已啦那收容人之間就會產生很多的摩擦人就是你知道我們人一般是會有一個空間的一個需要的空間感嘛那如果這空間感被破壞的話摩擦跟\n345970\t362090\t衝突就會變多 像一些自殘 暴力事件也會上升那對介護員來說壓力也會變大所以如果說現在我們看到這樣的環境那更不要講還要做什麼的戒癮 心理輔導或是一些毒飲飯的一些問題 就變得是更\n364273\t385203\t實際上就更惡化了 所以其實監所的空間它連動的東西我覺得是很多的不是單單只是空間級而已 它連動甚至很多的寓所的管理至於說今天真正矯正的一些作為的進行 所以這一點剛剛次長有提很多的一些就是監獄的一些計畫 希望能夠把步調加快一點\n386138\t412390\t好 謝委員我們會全力向行政院來爭取好 那另外齁 這個次長我也要說齁像這個最近齁就發生過一些很多的一些包括性侵啊性騷啊的一些問題啊就在這擁擠空間裡面這已經快要不是個案幾乎是體系問題我想請問一下次長你知道去年齁2024年齁監索性侵性騷擾案件數是多少那相較於過去有提高嗎\n415171\t418741\t這個數據我可能要請這個交通署這邊來查一下是喔 那署長這邊有掌握嗎\n425769\t448814\t目前手上的數據沒有我這邊有幫你查啦我們就這個數據來討論一下有什麼要補充再回後補充給我2024年總共是136件它是創六年的新高也是在過去十年裡的第二高就去年是六年的新高那對比2022年的73件三年之間增加是1.86倍所以\n451714\t465264\t嚴格來講其實這個相關的問題是在變得比較相對嚴重的趨勢那我們現在請問一下我們的監所現在有沒有一個全面有效的性侵性騷擾事件的通報SOP\n467301\t486453\t還是有很多單綴黑數跟委員報告因為我上任大概一年多去年下半年來到法務部我們的通報系統事實上都非常的健全就是性侵害防治三法新潮這些防治法等等的我們都依照相關的規定來辦理\n487654\t513767\t那我想也是因為這個MeToo運動之後大家的權利意識提高我們到現在有時候都還會接到針對過去發生的事情不一定是現在發生他現在來提出申訴跟檢舉那我們都會依照相關的規定當然要對檢舉人來做保密來保護他然後我們也會做客觀的調查機制然後都會成立或不成立的判定之後都有相關的懲處跟處置的規定這樣子\n516348\t530923\t好非常謝謝次長我還是要提醒一下其實監鎖狀況跟一般社會情況其實坦白講狀況可能會更嚴峻一點是因為壓力比較大對那裡面的話壓力也大那被害人可能會不敢講因為在那個地方基本上他\n531543\t559337\t可能會跑不掉然後也怕被報復所以有時候像在監所裡面類似的問題其實往往會被押很多黑屬菌所以這個可能是要特別注意就像說2022年高雄監獄就發生男性收容能遭到其他六名男育有集體霸凌跟性侵的案件那這個月月初你也看到金週刊也報導收到台東高雄嘉義台北監獄收容人的投訴\n560658\t577955\t那包括這個管理員的一個所謂的那個性侵然後預方卻沒有把加害人調職然後有長官方任管理員用暴力的方式教育受刑人那縱容管理員未依規定請假或兼職拉幫結派 誣陷受刑人等等\n578636\t604682\t那這些問題我想請教一下署長那這種類似的問題像當然目前是媒體揭露啦那我不知道我們的現在矯正署還有那個御所方面所方方面的話現在面對這個問題是怎麼樣去來改進的報告委員針對媒體所謂揭露的這些事件我們署裡面都有去調查了解而且也做發布新聞稿做一些回應說明了\n605862\t622186\t那另外補充就是我現在手頭上有剛剛委員執行到的性侵跟性騷擾的矯正機關的通報案件大概以今年來講是136件去年113年是136件今年是1到5月統計是54件在以往大概是100件左右\n633091\t656847\t從105年開始有這些相關統計大概100件左右反正跟您說一下就說136件是10年來次高大概最高一次是107年的140件那105年2016年是88件那實際上中間有高高低低但是確實在去年它的數字是相對比較高的所以這個要提醒大家注意一下\n657458\t681544\t那另外最後還是要講就是說這些獄政的改革其實牽涉到就是包括他所矯正的成效啦那也包括他在獄所內 監獄裡面犯罪的防治的問題那相關的問題其實都要需要大家再加把勁再努力 不然類似像那個週刊報導這種情況 層出不窮其實對也不是我們今天監獄管理之福啦以上 謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席有請次長跟署長請黃次長跟兩位署長 哪一位那個矯正署 周署長好 委員好\n次長還有署長我們今天會議主題是要談現行預證跟受刑人處遇機制的制度檢討我覺得我們的主席莊昭偉非常的關心這個題目所以他也安排很多的考察對預證的部分所以在這邊我們大家深入來討論怎麼去改善我們現在的預證的問題\n那也不要負了我們召委的一起苦心一起加油那首先我想請教一下次長跟署長一個很簡單的問題尤其我們署長應該要知道我們現在監所到底收了多少人那設計容量是多少 超收了百分之多少哪一間最誇張 超收最多\n報告委員我們核定收容額是60552那目前因為可能詐騙犯他上升了我們大概就突破了6萬人大概超收大概是0.48在之前的我們現在以最新的6月22我們是60945那超收最高是哪個監獄\n超收最高的這個會變動那以往像桃園監獄是超收嚴重的所以要每個月都要五車的移監以往是桃園監獄是跟高雄二監那目前像桃園女子監獄台北看守所台北監獄都有超收的情況\n我看到數字是最嚴重的就是桃園女子監獄超收率高達46%其實算是非常嚴重的超收我想請教一下我們署長就是按照法規每個人需要多少的空間我們受刑人法規上收容標準的空間是多少知道嗎空間嗎對 空間\n這個應該是沒有特別規定什麼空間但是每一個機關它的空間有它的歷史的嚴格像桃園監獄它是三合一附設看守所或少年公務所那以往它是桃園地驗的附設看守所的時候它只收300多350左右那350左右因為刑事政策的變監它又成立監獄看守所 少管所它最高收到\n大概2000人但是他的合定收容額是1275人所以他大概都超收5成目前是有再降下來大概是兩三成我看到的那個標準是那個收容標準是每人0.7坪啦那我不知道這個標準是不是剛剛剛剛署長是說實際上是沒有標準\n那再確認一下好不好因為我看到標準是這個還是有幕僚可以確認一下我們以前是0.7坪扣除這些廁所那個盥洗之外但是所謂的司法改革的時候有建議說要人道化希望能夠比如說\n至少要超過幾坪一坪或是多少他有做一些建議我們會朝這個方面來努力包括有一些是新建有一些是擴建像八德彰化看守所如果能夠啟用那應該對於北部中部的超收有很大的幫助其實蘇長你剛剛講的就是我要講的重點\n就以前的標準0.7坪其實都做不到啦那現在新的標準建議是希望能夠更有人道的空間那就還差一大步不知道次長是不是覺得這個努力的空間要怎麼辦\n跟委員報告因為目前我們現在興建還沒有完全完成的有彰化跟八德剛剛蘇長有講我們目前還有台北看守所跟台北女子看守所會因為新北的園區也會啟動興建改建的工程所以我們會努力來爭取像剛剛特別提到的桃園女子監獄\n我們也會來爭取增建的計畫也排到我們部裡面的前十來爭取像行政院來爭取中長城的計畫所以說我們因為硬體很多都是接收過去沿用的建築物來說所以它的設防比較難如果不改建 新建的話很難改善那我們會視國家財政情況跟我們的規劃一步一步往前走謝謝委員\n實際上就是要麻煩法務部跟矯正署都再加把勁因為現在其實很多地方坦白講空間真的是不夠那收容有些根本是硬塞進去那也傳出說床位不夠就碎地板的這些種種情形那這其實已經不是矯正根本就是虐待所以我覺得這個是\n應該我覺得相關單位還是要去檢討改正的地方那麼事實上超收也不只是睡覺級的這個這麼簡單的問題而已啦那收容人之間就會產生很多的摩擦人就是你知道我們人一般是會有一個空間的一個需要的空間感嘛那如果這空間感被破壞的話摩擦跟\n衝突就會變多 像一些自殘 暴力事件也會上升那對介護員來說壓力也會變大所以如果說現在我們看到這樣的環境那更不要講還要做什麼的戒癮 心理輔導或是一些毒飲飯的一些問題 就變得是更\n實際上就更惡化了 所以其實監所的空間它連動的東西我覺得是很多的不是單單只是空間級而已 它連動甚至很多的寓所的管理至於說今天真正矯正的一些作為的進行 所以這一點剛剛次長有提很多的一些就是監獄的一些計畫 希望能夠把步調加快一點\n好 謝委員我們會全力向行政院來爭取好 那另外齁 這個次長我也要說齁像這個最近齁就發生過一些很多的一些包括性侵啊性騷啊的一些問題啊就在這擁擠空間裡面這已經快要不是個案幾乎是體系問題我想請問一下次長你知道去年齁2024年齁監索性侵性騷擾案件數是多少那相較於過去有提高嗎\n這個數據我可能要請這個交通署這邊來查一下是喔 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