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00:01:05,841\n所以這個地方也要好好的溝通協調一樣你不要以為永安的重要苗栗的不重要從那邊一炸的話就完蛋了你也要好好的協調溝通我先跟你提醒一下是謝謝委員只有謝謝喔你回答他那麼多回答我那麼少謝謝兩句話\n\n4\n00:01:07,442 --> 00:01:32,172\n是代表關心感謝,要真的注意這個問題是是,我12萬分的感謝我還沒12萬分的感謝,官話就是這麼講我還是要叫你了解,確實的地方在反應我給你曉得說,大概我們天然氣它的陰濕路線,中途站苗栗的通宵非常重要這點請你特別關心一下是,謝謝委員\n\n5\n00:01:33,573 --> 00:02:00,413\n那今天我們教會特別安排這個因應高齡化社會我國智慧公共應濟的發展及目標問題整個的所在我們曉得推動的非常困難老的人騎摩托車還是自己開車你說公共的設施、運輸、巴士現在做的人很少這個推展起來我看起來會比較困難\n\n6\n00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:21,097\n那我們召委非常關心高齡化社會老人開車的問題而且最近的新聞非常的熱門我也40年次了我也被記者問到說陳委員陳委員那你開車會不會有問題我說就沒有問題問我開車的問題每一個狀況不一樣但是這裡面已經產生了一個社會安全的問題\n\n7\n00:02:29,764 --> 00:02:55,527\n這裡面也變成歧視高齡化駕駛車的問題那我們召委非常的關心非常注重這個議題在上上個禮拜特別安排去車輛車市中心我想奇怪這個中心很少過去我從苗栗開車到彰化去參加我在那邊也學習了很多的知識也增長了很多原來車子是這樣發展\n\n8\n00:02:57,779 --> 00:03:24,280\n那今天講到高齡化的社會臺灣65歲以上人口比例已經超過20那我們要保障像我們這樣包括你也一樣不曉得你的年齡我的年齡誰比較大看起來你是比我年輕多了你看起來像我弟弟一樣是我是你弟弟不是不是我說是比例講到年輕你就笑起來了真的很年輕但是我們都會遇到高齡化開車的問題\n\n9\n00:03:26,181 --> 00:03:35,964\n那我到車輛測試中心的時候我們把這個問題拿出來他也指點了我們幾個方向所以這邊我要請我們產業技術師的郭師長還有產業發展史我們的邱師長\n\n10\n00:03:46,167 --> 00:03:53,094\n還有我們國家發展委員會的戰務組委還有交通部的林常務處長還有運輸研究所的\n\n11\n00:03:59,229 --> 00:04:19,286\n那個王副所長,還有各位的書副之長,把你們這整個大頭出來,我要給你們講一個概念,在那裡面他們提到了,日本老人開車暴衝,或是說物彩煞車的機率降得非常低,我說日本人覺得是這麼厲害,\n\n12\n00:04:20,327 --> 00:04:42,330\n他們說有開始日本的世界上老人開車駕駛造勢的比例最好我想說日本老人台灣科技AI又要向我們台積電學習怎麼比我們台灣更厲害我就調查了一個資料這個資料我唸給部長你們在各位這是對老人一種保障跟開\n\n13\n00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:48,754\n他說跟日本警察廳的司機2023年75歲以上駕駛人涉及60%油門物產致死的車禍裡面日本發展一個新科技防止這種操作的\n\n14\n00:05:05,288 --> 00:05:29,685\n十五,要有兩項,這堆公家單位跟民間的企業真的要配合配合起來,你是一本通,部長你去一本要去調查,說你怎麼做,我告訴你這有那是幾項,大行令,真的是大聲,車輛那麼多他說關鍵的行動是在公司部門合力推廣\n\n15\n00:05:30,966 --> 00:05:52,450\n輔助車也就是要配配先進的安全功能包括自動駕駛的車輛它這個分成兩種一種配配就是碰撞緩解煞車的一種系統車輛這一部分我不知道要怎麼說你要這個資料我給你我相信你一本通應該很了解而且你還有企業的經驗你如果有電視方面的經驗\n\n16\n00:05:58,931 --> 00:06:24,471\n他說這種姿勢是由日本封建的要用台灣不人說封建Toyota你就說要用日本來我們要自己創造自己創新自主的一種科技出來我先這樣說使用毫米多雷達偵測前方的車輛和行人如果看來即將發生碰撞系統會發出警告來提醒駕駛\n\n17\n00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:53,321\n如果車輛太高進系統會自動煞車來防止減輕碰撞的影響日本規定2021年11月所有他們日本國產車輛一定要必備的一個配備第二種就是油門物彩加速抑制的系統它叫做ACPE英文那麼長我就不好意思練了\n\n18\n00:06:54,813 --> 00:07:15,081\n由汽車製造商叫電手私自會設以方便合作開發這個系統就是用感測監控車輛四周的環境如果駕駛人在霧體附近霧彩油門的時候一搭位一看就說那頭前有人他自動會踢了\n\n19\n00:07:17,138 --> 00:07:27,167\n這兩套系統我今天為什麼要特別提出來也感謝我們召委謝宇峰委員去的時候我們都在討論這個問題因為當初有發生我們最近部長說我今天怎麼把你們這裡大方叫來\n\n20\n00:07:32,532 --> 00:08:00,033\n第一個國會如果這個有專案的預算國會不要亂踩部長你要指導我這樣說你知道嗎這台隊有兩個單位啊就是產業技術師他那天你們的新任的郭市長能力很優秀那天我們去參觀了所謂點出來你那邊有在場看你有夠啦沒夠啦看要獨立創新台灣電子的系統整合之類的跟產業發展師\n\n21\n00:08:02,535 --> 00:08:31,035\n所以啊你以前在技師是兩個現在這樣呼調我希望你們真的研究一套比日本更傑出更好的一個系統過來國科會你要參加我為什麼把這幾個單位掉了你不要去做那些說那些說那些五四三的因為我們部長說AI邊緣運算這個裡面以後都會採取這樣的東西在做所以我們要組織團隊做出一種規格世界每一個\n\n22\n00:08:32,940 --> 00:08:47,850\n車輛公司都要來使用我一直啊交通部為什麼全然研究所那個醫師研究所為什麼你們都要參加來不要單獨來因為各種狀況的模擬不一樣所以我一天出來\n\n23\n00:08:49,158 --> 00:09:16,723\n我去參觀了以後我覺得長了知識原來有這套的設計力我們如果你經濟部領導之下好好組織一個團隊來這種老人輔助的工具讓車子老人再開更安全我就想說這一點沒有說要坐車到滿天市啦老人不能開車啦年輕人的肇事率那麼多你就給他開車只是我們要用科技的方法\n\n24\n00:09:17,643 --> 00:09:36,235\n由於台灣在AI裡面會算一個領先者我今天拜託全民過來組織一個團隊專門研究這樣世界上藝人的汽車有多少那個才是真正能幫助老人解決開車的問題又能稱讚我們產業的價值保證你看看嘛\n\n25\n00:09:38,476 --> 00:09:59,773\n你會不會這樣來做?完全照委員的意思我今天組成這樣的一個專案這樣的小組馬上來執行因為這個跟安全有生命關係的部分都是我們努力的部分我感覺這個一定要做而且這個市場非常的大值得我們來推動\n\n26\n00:10:01,474 --> 00:10:23,802\n值得你們推廣做出一個超越世界讓人家說台灣不但電視厲害現在可以發展到無人駕駛裡面這很重要謝謝委員的提示這個對我們來講非常大的鼓勵我們會努力來做因為我覺得這個產業很大對於高齡的老人確實要照顧安全很多不能隨便說\n\n27\n00:10:26,123 --> 00:10:39,561\n預算不要亂載這條我會特別聽你們父母通過做是最好的因為我的年齡以後開車子也要靠這個來幫忙啦我們要想到未來不要想到目前而已啦好不好謝謝謝謝委員謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n9208\t11150\t首先有請經濟部長部長部長好\n25851\t46782\t剛剛聽到邱志偉委員講,永安的油草非常重要,要加強的維護這點我承認,邱志偉委員確實高瞻人世但是我保證說一件事,你永安的油草在施送的時候,直到我苗栗的通宵,經過地下電纜,再施送到北部\n47782\t65841\t所以這個地方也要好好的溝通協調一樣你不要以為永安的重要苗栗的不重要從那邊一炸的話就完蛋了你也要好好的協調溝通我先跟你提醒一下是謝謝委員只有謝謝喔你回答他那麼多回答我那麼少謝謝兩句話\n67442\t92172\t是代表關心感謝,要真的注意這個問題是是,我12萬分的感謝我還沒12萬分的感謝,官話就是這麼講我還是要叫你了解,確實的地方在反應我給你曉得說,大概我們天然氣它的陰濕路線,中途站苗栗的通宵非常重要這點請你特別關心一下是,謝謝委員\n93573\t120413\t那今天我們教會特別安排這個因應高齡化社會我國智慧公共應濟的發展及目標問題整個的所在我們曉得推動的非常困難老的人騎摩托車還是自己開車你說公共的設施、運輸、巴士現在做的人很少這個推展起來我看起來會比較困難\n121960\t141097\t那我們召委非常關心高齡化社會老人開車的問題而且最近的新聞非常的熱門我也40年次了我也被記者問到說陳委員陳委員那你開車會不會有問題我說就沒有問題問我開車的問題每一個狀況不一樣但是這裡面已經產生了一個社會安全的問題\n149764\t175527\t這裡面也變成歧視高齡化駕駛車的問題那我們召委非常的關心非常注重這個議題在上上個禮拜特別安排去車輛車市中心我想奇怪這個中心很少過去我從苗栗開車到彰化去參加我在那邊也學習了很多的知識也增長了很多原來車子是這樣發展\n177779\t204280\t那今天講到高齡化的社會臺灣65歲以上人口比例已經超過20那我們要保障像我們這樣包括你也一樣不曉得你的年齡我的年齡誰比較大看起來你是比我年輕多了你看起來像我弟弟一樣是我是你弟弟不是不是我說是比例講到年輕你就笑起來了真的很年輕但是我們都會遇到高齡化開車的問題\n206181\t215964\t那我到車輛測試中心的時候我們把這個問題拿出來他也指點了我們幾個方向所以這邊我要請我們產業技術師的郭師長還有產業發展史我們的邱師長\n226167\t233094\t還有我們國家發展委員會的戰務組委還有交通部的林常務處長還有運輸研究所的\n239229\t259286\t那個王副所長,還有各位的書副之長,把你們這整個大頭出來,我要給你們講一個概念,在那裡面他們提到了,日本老人開車暴衝,或是說物彩煞車的機率降得非常低,我說日本人覺得是這麼厲害,\n260327\t282330\t他們說有開始日本的世界上老人開車駕駛造勢的比例最好我想說日本老人台灣科技AI又要向我們台積電學習怎麼比我們台灣更厲害我就調查了一個資料這個資料我唸給部長你們在各位這是對老人一種保障跟開\n283370\t288754\t他說跟日本警察廳的司機2023年75歲以上駕駛人涉及60%油門物產致死的車禍裡面日本發展一個新科技防止這種操作的\n305288\t329685\t十五,要有兩項,這堆公家單位跟民間的企業真的要配合配合起來,你是一本通,部長你去一本要去調查,說你怎麼做,我告訴你這有那是幾項,大行令,真的是大聲,車輛那麼多他說關鍵的行動是在公司部門合力推廣\n330966\t352450\t輔助車也就是要配配先進的安全功能包括自動駕駛的車輛它這個分成兩種一種配配就是碰撞緩解煞車的一種系統車輛這一部分我不知道要怎麼說你要這個資料我給你我相信你一本通應該很了解而且你還有企業的經驗你如果有電視方面的經驗\n358931\t384471\t他說這種姿勢是由日本封建的要用台灣 不人說封建Toyota 你就說要用日本來我們要自己創造 自己創新自主的一種科技出來我先這樣說使用毫米多雷達偵測前方的車輛和行人如果看來即將發生碰撞系統會發出警告來提醒駕駛\n385990\t413321\t如果車輛太高進系統會自動煞車來防止減輕碰撞的影響日本規定2021年11月所有他們日本國產車輛一定要必備的一個配備第二種就是油門物彩加速抑制的系統它叫做ACPE英文那麼長我就不好意思練了\n414813\t435081\t由汽車製造商叫電手私自會設以方便合作開發這個系統就是用感測監控車輛四周的環境如果駕駛人在霧體附近霧彩油門的時候一搭位一看就說那頭前有人他自動會踢了\n437138\t447167\t這兩套系統我今天為什麼要特別提出來也感謝我們召委謝宇峰委員去的時候我們都在討論這個問題因為當初有發生我們最近部長說我今天怎麼把你們這裡大方叫來\n452532\t480033\t第一個國會 如果這個有專案的預算 國會不要亂踩部長你要指導 我這樣說你知道嗎這台隊有兩個單位啊就是產業技術師 他那天你們的新任的郭市長能力很優秀 那天我們去參觀了所謂點出來 你那邊有在場看你有夠啦沒夠啦看要獨立創新台灣電子的系統整合之類的跟產業發展師\n482535\t511035\t所以啊你以前在技師是兩個現在這樣呼調我希望你們真的研究一套比日本更傑出更好的一個系統過來國科會你要參加我為什麼把這幾個單位掉了你不要去做那些說那些說那些五四三的因為我們部長說AI邊緣運算這個裡面以後都會採取這樣的東西在做所以我們要組織團隊做出一種規格世界每一個\n512940\t527850\t車輛公司都要來使用我一直 啊交通部為什麼全然研究所那個醫師研究所為什麼你們都要參加來 不要單獨來因為各種狀況的模擬不一樣所以 我一天出來\n529158\t556723\t我去參觀了以後我覺得長了知識原來有這套的設計力我們如果你經濟部領導之下好好組織一個團隊來這種老人輔助的工具讓車子老人再開更安全我就想說這一點沒有說要坐車到滿天市啦老人不能開車啦年輕人的肇事率那麼多你就給他開車只是我們要用科技的方法\n557643\t576235\t由於台灣在AI裡面會算一個領先者我今天拜託全民過來組織一個團隊專門研究這樣世界上藝人的汽車有多少那個才是真正能幫助老人解決開車的問題又能稱讚我們產業的價值保證你看看嘛\n578476\t599773\t你會不會這樣來做?完全照委員的意思我今天組成這樣的一個專案這樣的小組馬上來執行因為這個跟安全有生命關係的部分都是我們努力的部分我感覺這個一定要做而且這個市場非常的大值得我們來推動\n601474\t623802\t值得你們推廣 做出一個超越世界 讓人家說台灣不但電視厲害 現在可以發展到無人駕駛裡面 這很重要謝謝委員的提示 這個對我們來講非常大的鼓勵我們會努力來做因為我覺得這個產業很大對於高齡的老人確實要照顧安全很多 不能隨便說\n626123\t639561\t預算不要亂載這條我會特別聽你們父母通過做是最好的因為我的年齡以後開車子也要靠這個來幫忙啦我們要想到未來不要想到目前而已啦好不好謝謝謝謝委員謝謝\n","txt":"首先有請經濟部長部長部長好\n剛剛聽到邱志偉委員講,永安的油草非常重要,要加強的維護這點我承認,邱志偉委員確實高瞻人世但是我保證說一件事,你永安的油草在施送的時候,直到我苗栗的通宵,經過地下電纜,再施送到北部\n所以這個地方也要好好的溝通協調一樣你不要以為永安的重要苗栗的不重要從那邊一炸的話就完蛋了你也要好好的協調溝通我先跟你提醒一下是謝謝委員只有謝謝喔你回答他那麼多回答我那麼少謝謝兩句話\n是代表關心感謝,要真的注意這個問題是是,我12萬分的感謝我還沒12萬分的感謝,官話就是這麼講我還是要叫你了解,確實的地方在反應我給你曉得說,大概我們天然氣它的陰濕路線,中途站苗栗的通宵非常重要這點請你特別關心一下是,謝謝委員\n那今天我們教會特別安排這個因應高齡化社會我國智慧公共應濟的發展及目標問題整個的所在我們曉得推動的非常困難老的人騎摩托車還是自己開車你說公共的設施、運輸、巴士現在做的人很少這個推展起來我看起來會比較困難\n那我們召委非常關心高齡化社會老人開車的問題而且最近的新聞非常的熱門我也40年次了我也被記者問到說陳委員陳委員那你開車會不會有問題我說就沒有問題問我開車的問題每一個狀況不一樣但是這裡面已經產生了一個社會安全的問題\n這裡面也變成歧視高齡化駕駛車的問題那我們召委非常的關心非常注重這個議題在上上個禮拜特別安排去車輛車市中心我想奇怪這個中心很少過去我從苗栗開車到彰化去參加我在那邊也學習了很多的知識也增長了很多原來車子是這樣發展\n那今天講到高齡化的社會臺灣65歲以上人口比例已經超過20那我們要保障像我們這樣包括你也一樣不曉得你的年齡我的年齡誰比較大看起來你是比我年輕多了你看起來像我弟弟一樣是我是你弟弟不是不是我說是比例講到年輕你就笑起來了真的很年輕但是我們都會遇到高齡化開車的問題\n那我到車輛測試中心的時候我們把這個問題拿出來他也指點了我們幾個方向所以這邊我要請我們產業技術師的郭師長還有產業發展史我們的邱師長\n還有我們國家發展委員會的戰務組委還有交通部的林常務處長還有運輸研究所的\n那個王副所長,還有各位的書副之長,把你們這整個大頭出來,我要給你們講一個概念,在那裡面他們提到了,日本老人開車暴衝,或是說物彩煞車的機率降得非常低,我說日本人覺得是這麼厲害,\n他們說有開始日本的世界上老人開車駕駛造勢的比例最好我想說日本老人台灣科技AI又要向我們台積電學習怎麼比我們台灣更厲害我就調查了一個資料這個資料我唸給部長你們在各位這是對老人一種保障跟開\n他說跟日本警察廳的司機2023年75歲以上駕駛人涉及60%油門物產致死的車禍裡面日本發展一個新科技防止這種操作的\n十五,要有兩項,這堆公家單位跟民間的企業真的要配合配合起來,你是一本通,部長你去一本要去調查,說你怎麼做,我告訴你這有那是幾項,大行令,真的是大聲,車輛那麼多他說關鍵的行動是在公司部門合力推廣\n輔助車也就是要配配先進的安全功能包括自動駕駛的車輛它這個分成兩種一種配配就是碰撞緩解煞車的一種系統車輛這一部分我不知道要怎麼說你要這個資料我給你我相信你一本通應該很了解而且你還有企業的經驗你如果有電視方面的經驗\n他說這種姿勢是由日本封建的要用台灣 不人說封建Toyota 你就說要用日本來我們要自己創造 自己創新自主的一種科技出來我先這樣說使用毫米多雷達偵測前方的車輛和行人如果看來即將發生碰撞系統會發出警告來提醒駕駛\n如果車輛太高進系統會自動煞車來防止減輕碰撞的影響日本規定2021年11月所有他們日本國產車輛一定要必備的一個配備第二種就是油門物彩加速抑制的系統它叫做ACPE英文那麼長我就不好意思練了\n由汽車製造商叫電手私自會設以方便合作開發這個系統就是用感測監控車輛四周的環境如果駕駛人在霧體附近霧彩油門的時候一搭位一看就說那頭前有人他自動會踢了\n這兩套系統我今天為什麼要特別提出來也感謝我們召委謝宇峰委員去的時候我們都在討論這個問題因為當初有發生我們最近部長說我今天怎麼把你們這裡大方叫來\n第一個國會 如果這個有專案的預算 國會不要亂踩部長你要指導 我這樣說你知道嗎這台隊有兩個單位啊就是產業技術師 他那天你們的新任的郭市長能力很優秀 那天我們去參觀了所謂點出來 你那邊有在場看你有夠啦沒夠啦看要獨立創新台灣電子的系統整合之類的跟產業發展師\n所以啊你以前在技師是兩個現在這樣呼調我希望你們真的研究一套比日本更傑出更好的一個系統過來國科會你要參加我為什麼把這幾個單位掉了你不要去做那些說那些說那些五四三的因為我們部長說AI邊緣運算這個裡面以後都會採取這樣的東西在做所以我們要組織團隊做出一種規格世界每一個\n車輛公司都要來使用我一直 啊交通部為什麼全然研究所那個醫師研究所為什麼你們都要參加來 不要單獨來因為各種狀況的模擬不一樣所以 我一天出來\n我去參觀了以後我覺得長了知識原來有這套的設計力我們如果你經濟部領導之下好好組織一個團隊來這種老人輔助的工具讓車子老人再開更安全我就想說這一點沒有說要坐車到滿天市啦老人不能開車啦年輕人的肇事率那麼多你就給他開車只是我們要用科技的方法\n由於台灣在AI裡面會算一個領先者我今天拜託全民過來組織一個團隊專門研究這樣世界上藝人的汽車有多少那個才是真正能幫助老人解決開車的問題又能稱讚我們產業的價值保證你看看嘛\n你會不會這樣來做?完全照委員的意思我今天組成這樣的一個專案這樣的小組馬上來執行因為這個跟安全有生命關係的部分都是我們努力的部分我感覺這個一定要做而且這個市場非常的大值得我們來推動\n值得你們推廣 做出一個超越世界 讓人家說台灣不但電視厲害 現在可以發展到無人駕駛裡面 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