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00:00:33,367\n部長早還有董事長早那本席先請教我們高鐵石董事長因為最近就是高鐵跟台鐵的這個人事發布然後也引起外界的關注跟議論那高鐵的部分就是外界對\n\n3\n00:00:34,208 --> 00:00:51,977\n就是使董事長來接任當然就是有一些爭議跟聲音啦認為說您沒有這個交通的經驗所以認為說讓你來當這個高鐵的董事長是一種酬庸啦那我們知道高鐵曾經通車到現在大概18年的時間嘛所以\n\n4\n00:00:53,038 --> 00:01:11,378\n高鐵公司可以說是一個年紀很輕的公司到目前也是充滿了這個活力也是非常的有制度那本期來台北開這個開會也都是每次都搭高鐵所以對高鐵的服務品質我覺得也是非常好都是予以肯定那在歷任的董事長的\n\n5\n00:01:12,940 --> 00:01:39,040\n這個經營管理之下其實備受外界的肯定所以本席請教說如果說高鐵公司目前給外界的印象是100分的話那如果由你來帶領這個高鐵公司你要讓人家如何覺得會不一樣因為如果說你來當了這個董事長結果還是一樣的話那會不會就是讓人家覺得說你就是世衛素餐是一個愁容\n\n6\n00:01:40,172 --> 00:02:07,546\n是謝謝委員的指教我想感謝委員的這個肯定高鐵確實從18年前開通那一刻事實上帶給國人是一個經驗因為當年事實上台灣人並沒有體會到我們的公共建設公共服務可以達到這樣的品質那這18年來我們歷經了過去的新建期那開通的開創初期以及財務改革以及疫後的衝擊那我想在歷任的經營團隊也特別感謝\n\n7\n00:02:08,887 --> 00:02:33,621\n這個鄭董事長那我想高鐵確實如委員所肯定的他您覺得他是100分那很高的分數就代表他其實要再繼續維持或進步事實上是相當大的挑戰但是我們也要承認今年第18年明年第19年我們新車到港來台後年20年20年的一個運輸業我們是不是應該為未來的10年20年要做好準備\n\n8\n00:02:34,722 --> 00:02:57,162\n而新車的加入事實上是現在民眾普遍的期待因為確實我們因為景氣的復甦疫後人潮的爆發事實上確實現在在尖峰時段尤其是對我們中南部是一味難求那也間接的造成我們第一線服務人員的壓力以及服務品質的下降\n\n9\n00:02:57,702 --> 00:03:10,897\n因此新車的如期如止的上路是我最重要的一個責任那也是今天我來接任董事長可以說考試的鈴聲已經響起交卷的時間也確定\n\n10\n00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:37,594\n考試的題目是公開是openbook大家都可以看得到他最後的成績如何因此我用這樣的方法來回答委員就是說我不敢講更上一層樓但是高鐵在未來前瞻性的十年二十年在這一次以新車加入導入為基礎的整體的高鐵2.0我想是我對我自己自我的期許也是希望能夠對全國民眾的責任謝謝\n\n11\n00:03:38,394 --> 00:03:51,146\n是我想就是你這個人事的決定相信也是你的能力有受到肯定那當然外界也都睜大眼睛在看所以本席也是期待說石董事長未來在高鐵公司這個董事長任內能夠\n\n12\n00:03:56,010 --> 00:04:23,240\n就是有所作為然後讓外界能夠眼睛一亮有不同的這樣的更好的企業文化謝謝委員還有就是這個班次的問題就是本席彰化縣這個田中就是彰化站就是在田中所以這個班次的問題地方鄉親也一再的反映所以在這個部分我們也希望我們高鐵公司這邊要就是多加於考量就是在彰化站的部分\n\n13\n00:04:23,942 --> 00:04:48,301\n是我想田中的彰化站當然目前整個人次還不到五千那比較可惜當然它是一個沒有跟台鐵共構的站它跟台鐵火車站最近還有三公里之遙但是呢高鐵事實上扮演了一個非常均衡台灣的一個角色所以有關於各地的站的班次的問題我想我們會持續性的來檢討這是我們也是相當重視的課題\n\n14\n00:04:49,485 --> 00:05:17,846\n是好謝謝施董事長那接下來我來請教台鐵的部分所以請台鐵鄭董事長那在這邊我想先請教就是我們看到台鐵的旅域因為台鐵鐵路運輸也是還是一個不可或缺的一個交通運輸的一個管道那可是我們看到最近只有單單五月份就發生三件這個暴力攻擊的一個事件\n\n15\n00:05:18,246 --> 00:05:46,128\n那過去也是屢次發生甚至有導致鐵路警察喪失生命的這種不幸的意外所以對於這個屢次發生暴力攻擊事件我們要怎樣去維護旅運的一個安全不僅是員工的安全當然還有相關的旅客的安全我們都要去重視所以我們在這個部分先請鄭董事長簡單回應一下好了好不好先說明一下\n\n16\n00:05:46,949 --> 00:06:14,903\n我想這個維護我們員工的職場上的安全這是我們的責任那在這一方面的話我們也對一些有出現暴力這種不法的這種對的這種旅客對員工的這種傷害我們基本上會尊重我們員工的這個提訴權我們也都會安排我們一些必要的話我們一些法務人員都可以來提供這樣的一個協助\n\n17\n00:06:15,888 --> 00:06:27,953\n是就是法務人員是事後發生的協助啦當然我也有看到一個訊息就是說有員工在反映說是不是可以有相關的一些裝備包括密錄器還是什麼之類的可以讓他們\n\n18\n00:06:29,028 --> 00:06:51,725\n可以保護自己啦不曉得這方面我們有沒有相關的想法是秘錄器這一部分我們也跟工會這邊有充分的討論員工方面確實是有希望能夠有這樣尤其在列車長這一部分他們希望因為這樣能夠得到保障我想這一部分我們現在積極在研究操作方面來努力\n\n19\n00:06:52,213 --> 00:07:20,382\n好謝謝那我們知道其實台鐵的這個旅運安全絕大部分應該是說百分之百要仰賴鐵路警察嘛對不對仰賴鐵路警察所以這個鐵路警察非常的重要那目前就是我的選區有遇到一個問題這個可能要拜託部長來解決就是目前在園林火車站前面的這個鐵路警察局分住所\n\n20\n00:07:21,022 --> 00:07:49,171\n他元寧分住所他目前就是面臨到元寧市公所就是地方政府要拓寬這個計畫道路那這個現有的建築物就是必須被拆除一半了啦那拆除一半之後就幾乎應該安全性或者空間就不敷使用了那目前這個經費就是已經爭取到營建署這個是計畫道路內的道路拓寬所以營建署經費都已經補助也撥下去了\n\n21\n00:07:49,671 --> 00:08:01,096\n所以地方政府也有那個壓力可是目前就是這個元年分住所那個鐵路警察局他目前沒有一個安身之處所以他還沒有辦法搬那他暫時遷移還沒有著落\n\n22\n00:08:04,978 --> 00:08:15,485\n之外呢他未來到底要重建重建的話要建在哪邊所以這個課題因為我們有召開協調會可是對於鐵路警察的單位來說他認為說他是在協助我們台鐵維護治安所以不管是安頓或者是未來的簽建的經費希望交通部這邊要來幫他們解決那我先請教一下部長您的看法\n\n23\n00:08:35,318 --> 00:09:00,754\n報告委員這個我們先來釐清一下就是經費的部分內政部當然是所有警察的主管單位那這個部分我們會來跟他們協調該是交通部出當然就交通部來出那有可能也有可能會是內政部啦我們再來協調但無論如何無論如何我們這個鐵路警察的員林派出所的部分一定會讓他們有一個很好的地方可以辦公\n\n24\n00:09:01,715 --> 00:09:15,014\n這個部分我們一定會確保那這個土地的部分或空間的部分我們也跟台鐵公司我想台鐵公司也經過會勘了啦那後面的經費也一定不會讓在地的這些鐵路警察們的這個同仁們需要去擔心這個問題這個我們會來解決\n\n25\n00:09:16,836 --> 00:09:21,297\n對我也是覺得說這個問題不應該是丟給地方基層那個鐵路警察派出所他們去傷腦筋剛剛部長提到說這個經費就是要經過協調因為我覺得這層級應該就是要部長出面才有辦法因為我邀請這個內政部的鐵路警察\n\n26\n00:09:36,122 --> 00:10:03,166\n那個台中的那個分局他們也沒辦法做主啊他們也是認為就是要交通部來出面可是交通部這邊我們台鐵不敢做主啊他們也不敢答應啊所以我覺得說這個就是要部長要可能要你們就是好這個案子我們來協助好我們來協助那未來就是簽件的話這個用地的部分目前初步台鐵的公司這邊是有願意提供這個道班房的用地啦\n\n27\n00:10:04,227 --> 00:10:30,490\n我覺得這也要感謝我們台鐵公司這邊有這個誠意在協助解決所以未來我們希望就是說可以很順利的把這個地點確定之後然後改建的監會也確定把這個問題趕快解決這樣子那因為這個鐵路警察局就是派出所啦目前這樣子的位置就是會妨礙到整個元嶺火車站前面的交通的一個動線所以這個道路的拓寬真的也是地方的一個期待\n\n28\n00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:44,181\n那未來我這邊也要再建議一下就是說這個鐵路警察局現有的這一個如果拆除遷建之後我們希望這一個空間我們台體公司這邊是不是也在做一個妥善的規劃讓原有的那個計程車排班\n\n29\n00:10:48,544 --> 00:11:07,302\n有一個更好的一個位置跟動線是不是可以請董事長這邊是有關於這個遷建以後這地怎麼來用我想第一個就是要來對這個在地的這個交通有所幫助我想這個是最重要的\n\n30\n00:11:07,902 --> 00:11:29,101\n是好那我在最後一個問題然後這也是一個小問題就是就是火車站附近真的是交通非常的複雜車流量很大那對停車需求也是非常的大那目前在社統火車站前面目前地方鄉親就有在反映說目前民營的\n\n31\n00:11:30,382 --> 00:11:57,727\n停車場的收費太高了那我們了解之後發現說我們在社投火車站附近事實上是有我們台鐵的閒置土地那所以本席在這邊建議說台鐵公司是不是可以善加利用把這個閒置土地規劃來當作停車場然後可以提供民眾使用那也可以在這個費用上能夠盡量的就是減輕那個民眾的一個負擔這樣子\n\n32\n00:11:59,108 --> 00:12:23,412\n謝謝委員指教我們朝這方向來進行OK好謝謝鄭董事長我想鄭董事長在高鐵任內的一個成績所以您來擔任台鐵董事長相信大家也是對你寄予厚望希望就是說你以你的經驗能力來帶領是不是可以讓這個百年老店重新有一個活力是不是好謝謝委員指教我盡力來處理好謝謝鄭董事長謝謝部長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1933\t17641\t謝謝主席 請主席邀請陳部長還有高鐵石董事長好 交通部陳部長還有高鐵石董事長委員好\n18070\t33367\t部長早還有董事長早那本席先請教我們高鐵石董事長因為最近就是高鐵跟台鐵的這個人事發布然後也引起外界的關注跟議論那高鐵的部分就是外界對\n34208\t51977\t就是使董事長來接任 當然就是有一些爭議跟聲音啦 認為說您沒有這個交通的經驗所以認為說讓你來當這個高鐵的董事長是一種酬庸啦那我們知道高鐵曾經通車到現在大概18年的時間嘛 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我想就是你這個人事的決定相信也是你的能力有受到肯定那當然外界也都睜大眼睛在看所以本席也是期待說石董事長未來在高鐵公司這個董事長任內能夠\n236010\t263240\t就是有所作為然後讓外界能夠眼睛一亮有不同的這樣的更好的企業文化謝謝委員還有就是這個班次的問題就是本席彰化縣這個田中就是彰化站就是在田中所以這個班次的問題地方鄉親也一再的反映所以在這個部分我們也希望我們高鐵公司這邊要就是多加於考量就是在彰化站的部分\n263942\t288301\t是 我想田中的彰化站當然目前整個人次還不到五千那比較可惜當然它是一個沒有跟台鐵共構的站它跟台鐵火車站最近還有三公里之遙但是呢高鐵事實上扮演了一個非常均衡台灣的一個角色所以有關於各地的站的班次的問題我想我們會持續性的來檢討這是我們也是相當重視的課題\n289485\t317846\t是好謝謝施董事長那接下來我來請教台鐵的部分所以請台鐵鄭董事長那在這邊我想先請教就是我們看到台鐵的旅域因為台鐵鐵路運輸也是還是一個不可或缺的一個交通運輸的一個管道那可是我們看到最近只有單單五月份就發生三件這個暴力攻擊的一個事件\n318246\t346128\t那過去也是屢次發生甚至有導致鐵路警察喪失生命的這種不幸的意外所以對於這個屢次發生暴力攻擊事件我們要怎樣去維護旅運的一個安全不僅是員工的安全當然還有相關的旅客的安全我們都要去重視所以我們在這個部分先請鄭董事長簡單回應一下好了好不好先說明一下\n346949\t374903\t我想這個維護我們員工的職場上的安全這是我們的責任那在這一方面的話我們也對一些有出現暴力這種不法的這種對的這種旅客對員工的這種傷害我們基本上會尊重我們員工的這個提訴權我們也都會安排我們一些必要的話我們一些法務人員都可以來提供這樣的一個協助\n375888\t387953\t是 就是法務人員是事後發生的協助啦當然我也有看到一個訊息就是說有員工在反映說是不是可以有相關的一些裝備包括密錄器還是什麼之類的可以讓他們\n389028\t411725\t可以保護自己啦 不曉得這方面我們有沒有相關的想法是 秘錄器這一部分我們也跟工會這邊有充分的討論員工方面確實是有希望能夠有這樣 尤其在列車長這一部分他們希望因為這樣能夠得到保障我想這一部分我們現在積極在研究 操作方面來努力\n412213\t440382\t好謝謝那我們知道其實台鐵的這個旅運安全絕大部分應該是說百分之百要仰賴鐵路警察嘛對不對仰賴鐵路警察所以這個鐵路警察非常的重要那目前就是我的選區有遇到一個問題這個可能要拜託部長來解決就是目前在園林火車站前面的這個鐵路警察局分住所\n441022\t469171\t他元寧分住所 他目前就是面臨到元寧市公所就是地方政府要拓寬這個計畫道路那這個現有的建築物就是必須被拆除一半了啦那拆除一半之後就幾乎應該安全性或者空間就不敷使用了那目前這個經費就是已經爭取到營建署這個是計畫道路內的道路拓寬所以營建署經費都已經補助也撥下去了\n469671\t481096\t所以地方政府也有那個壓力可是目前就是這個元年分住所那個鐵路警察局他目前沒有一個安身之處所以他還沒有辦法搬那他暫時遷移還沒有著落\n484978\t495485\t之外呢 他未來到底要重建重建的話要建在哪邊所以這個課題因為我們有召開協調會可是對於鐵路警察的單位來說他認為說他是在協助我們台鐵維護治安所以不管是安頓或者是未來的簽建的經費希望交通部這邊要來幫他們解決那我先請教一下部長 您的看法\n515318\t540754\t報告委員 這個我們先來釐清一下就是經費的部分內政部當然是所有警察的主管單位那這個部分我們會來跟他們協調該是交通部出當然就交通部來出那有可能也有可能會是內政部啦我們再來協調但無論如何無論如何我們這個鐵路警察的員林派出所的部分一定會讓他們有一個很好的地方可以辦公\n541715\t555014\t這個部分我們一定會確保那這個土地的部分或空間的部分我們也跟台鐵公司我想台鐵公司也經過會勘了啦那後面的經費也一定不會讓在地的這些鐵路警察們的這個同仁們需要去擔心這個問題這個我們會來解決\n556836\t561297\t對我也是覺得說這個問題不應該是丟給地方基層那個鐵路警察派出所他們去傷腦筋剛剛部長提到說這個經費就是要經過協調因為我覺得這層級應該就是要部長出面才有辦法因為我邀請這個內政部的鐵路警察\n576122\t603166\t那個台中的那個分局他們也沒辦法做主啊他們也是認為就是要交通部來出面可是交通部這邊我們台鐵不敢做主啊他們也不敢答應啊所以我覺得說這個就是要部長要可能要你們就是好這個案子我們來協助好我們來協助那未來就是簽件的話這個用地的部分目前初步台鐵的公司這邊是有願意提供這個道班房的用地啦\n604227\t630490\t我覺得這也要感謝我們台鐵公司這邊有這個誠意在協助解決所以未來我們希望就是說可以很順利的把這個地點確定之後然後改建的監會也確定把這個問題趕快解決這樣子那因為這個鐵路警察局就是派出所啦目前這樣子的位置就是會妨礙到整個元嶺火車站前面的交通的一個動線所以這個道路的拓寬真的也是地方的一個期待\n631190\t644181\t那未來我這邊也要再建議一下就是說這個鐵路警察局現有的這一個如果拆除遷建之後我們希望這一個空間我們台體公司這邊是不是也在做一個妥善的規劃讓原有的那個計程車排班\n648544\t667302\t有一個更好的一個位置跟動線是不是可以請董事長這邊是有關於這個遷建以後這地怎麼來用我想第一個就是要來對這個在地的這個交通有所幫助我想這個是最重要的\n667902\t689101\t是好那我在最後一個問題然後這也是一個小問題就是就是火車站附近真的是交通非常的複雜車流量很大那對停車需求也是非常的大那目前在社統火車站前面目前地方鄉親就有在反映說目前民營的\n690382\t717727\t停車場的收費太高了那我們了解之後發現說我們在社投火車站附近事實上是有我們台鐵的閒置土地那所以本席在這邊建議說台鐵公司是不是可以善加利用把這個閒置土地規劃來當作停車場然後可以提供民眾使用那也可以在這個費用上能夠盡量的就是減輕那個民眾的一個負擔這樣子\n719108\t743412\t謝謝委員指教我們朝這方向來進行OK好謝謝鄭董事長我想鄭董事長在高鐵任內的一個成績所以您來擔任台鐵董事長相信大家也是對你寄予厚望希望就是說你以你的經驗能力來帶領是不是可以讓這個百年老店重新有一個活力是不是好謝謝委員指教我盡力來處理好謝謝鄭董事長謝謝部長\n","txt":"謝謝主席 請主席邀請陳部長還有高鐵石董事長好 交通部陳部長還有高鐵石董事長委員好\n部長早還有董事長早那本席先請教我們高鐵石董事長因為最近就是高鐵跟台鐵的這個人事發布然後也引起外界的關注跟議論那高鐵的部分就是外界對\n就是使董事長來接任 當然就是有一些爭議跟聲音啦 認為說您沒有這個交通的經驗所以認為說讓你來當這個高鐵的董事長是一種酬庸啦那我們知道高鐵曾經通車到現在大概18年的時間嘛 所以\n高鐵公司可以說是一個年紀很輕的公司到目前也是充滿了這個活力也是非常的有制度那本期來台北開這個開會也都是每次都搭高鐵所以對高鐵的服務品質我覺得也是非常好都是予以肯定那在歷任的董事長的\n這個經營管理之下其實備受外界的肯定所以本席請教說如果說高鐵公司目前給外界的印象是100分的話那如果由你來帶領這個高鐵公司你要讓人家如何覺得會不一樣因為如果說你來當了這個董事長結果還是一樣的話那會不會就是讓人家覺得說你就是世衛素餐是一個愁容\n是 謝謝委員的指教我想感謝委員的這個肯定高鐵確實從18年前開通那一刻事實上帶給國人是一個經驗因為當年事實上台灣人並沒有體會到我們的公共建設公共服務可以達到這樣的品質那這18年來我們歷經了過去的新建期那開通的開創初期以及財務改革以及疫後的衝擊那我想在歷任的經營團隊也特別感謝\n這個鄭董事長那我想高鐵確實如委員所肯定的他您覺得他是100分那很高的分數就代表他其實要再繼續維持或進步事實上是相當大的挑戰但是我們也要承認今年第18年明年第19年我們新車到港來台後年20年20年的一個運輸業我們是不是應該為未來的10年20年要做好準備\n而新車的加入事實上是現在民眾普遍的期待因為確實我們因為景氣的復甦 疫後人潮的爆發事實上確實現在在尖峰時段尤其是對我們中南部是一味難求那也間接的造成我們第一線服務人員的壓力以及服務品質的下降\n因此新車的如期如止的上路是我最重要的一個責任那也是今天我來接任董事長可以說考試的鈴聲已經響起交卷的時間也確定\n考試的題目是公開是open book大家都可以看得到他最後的成績如何因此我用這樣的方法來回答委員就是說我不敢講更上一層樓但是高鐵在未來前瞻性的十年二十年在這一次以新車加入導入為基礎的整體的高鐵2.0我想是我對我自己自我的期許也是希望能夠對全國民眾的責任謝謝\n是 我想就是你這個人事的決定相信也是你的能力有受到肯定那當然外界也都睜大眼睛在看所以本席也是期待說石董事長未來在高鐵公司這個董事長任內能夠\n就是有所作為然後讓外界能夠眼睛一亮有不同的這樣的更好的企業文化謝謝委員還有就是這個班次的問題就是本席彰化縣這個田中就是彰化站就是在田中所以這個班次的問題地方鄉親也一再的反映所以在這個部分我們也希望我們高鐵公司這邊要就是多加於考量就是在彰化站的部分\n是 我想田中的彰化站當然目前整個人次還不到五千那比較可惜當然它是一個沒有跟台鐵共構的站它跟台鐵火車站最近還有三公里之遙但是呢高鐵事實上扮演了一個非常均衡台灣的一個角色所以有關於各地的站的班次的問題我想我們會持續性的來檢討這是我們也是相當重視的課題\n是好謝謝施董事長那接下來我來請教台鐵的部分所以請台鐵鄭董事長那在這邊我想先請教就是我們看到台鐵的旅域因為台鐵鐵路運輸也是還是一個不可或缺的一個交通運輸的一個管道那可是我們看到最近只有單單五月份就發生三件這個暴力攻擊的一個事件\n那過去也是屢次發生甚至有導致鐵路警察喪失生命的這種不幸的意外所以對於這個屢次發生暴力攻擊事件我們要怎樣去維護旅運的一個安全不僅是員工的安全當然還有相關的旅客的安全我們都要去重視所以我們在這個部分先請鄭董事長簡單回應一下好了好不好先說明一下\n我想這個維護我們員工的職場上的安全這是我們的責任那在這一方面的話我們也對一些有出現暴力這種不法的這種對的這種旅客對員工的這種傷害我們基本上會尊重我們員工的這個提訴權我們也都會安排我們一些必要的話我們一些法務人員都可以來提供這樣的一個協助\n是 就是法務人員是事後發生的協助啦當然我也有看到一個訊息就是說有員工在反映說是不是可以有相關的一些裝備包括密錄器還是什麼之類的可以讓他們\n可以保護自己啦 不曉得這方面我們有沒有相關的想法是 秘錄器這一部分我們也跟工會這邊有充分的討論員工方面確實是有希望能夠有這樣 尤其在列車長這一部分他們希望因為這樣能夠得到保障我想這一部分我們現在積極在研究 操作方面來努力\n好謝謝那我們知道其實台鐵的這個旅運安全絕大部分應該是說百分之百要仰賴鐵路警察嘛對不對仰賴鐵路警察所以這個鐵路警察非常的重要那目前就是我的選區有遇到一個問題這個可能要拜託部長來解決就是目前在園林火車站前面的這個鐵路警察局分住所\n他元寧分住所 他目前就是面臨到元寧市公所就是地方政府要拓寬這個計畫道路那這個現有的建築物就是必須被拆除一半了啦那拆除一半之後就幾乎應該安全性或者空間就不敷使用了那目前這個經費就是已經爭取到營建署這個是計畫道路內的道路拓寬所以營建署經費都已經補助也撥下去了\n所以地方政府也有那個壓力可是目前就是這個元年分住所那個鐵路警察局他目前沒有一個安身之處所以他還沒有辦法搬那他暫時遷移還沒有著落\n之外呢 他未來到底要重建重建的話要建在哪邊所以這個課題因為我們有召開協調會可是對於鐵路警察的單位來說他認為說他是在協助我們台鐵維護治安所以不管是安頓或者是未來的簽建的經費希望交通部這邊要來幫他們解決那我先請教一下部長 您的看法\n報告委員 這個我們先來釐清一下就是經費的部分內政部當然是所有警察的主管單位那這個部分我們會來跟他們協調該是交通部出當然就交通部來出那有可能也有可能會是內政部啦我們再來協調但無論如何無論如何我們這個鐵路警察的員林派出所的部分一定會讓他們有一個很好的地方可以辦公\n這個部分我們一定會確保那這個土地的部分或空間的部分我們也跟台鐵公司我想台鐵公司也經過會勘了啦那後面的經費也一定不會讓在地的這些鐵路警察們的這個同仁們需要去擔心這個問題這個我們會來解決\n對我也是覺得說這個問題不應該是丟給地方基層那個鐵路警察派出所他們去傷腦筋剛剛部長提到說這個經費就是要經過協調因為我覺得這層級應該就是要部長出面才有辦法因為我邀請這個內政部的鐵路警察\n那個台中的那個分局他們也沒辦法做主啊他們也是認為就是要交通部來出面可是交通部這邊我們台鐵不敢做主啊他們也不敢答應啊所以我覺得說這個就是要部長要可能要你們就是好這個案子我們來協助好我們來協助那未來就是簽件的話這個用地的部分目前初步台鐵的公司這邊是有願意提供這個道班房的用地啦\n我覺得這也要感謝我們台鐵公司這邊有這個誠意在協助解決所以未來我們希望就是說可以很順利的把這個地點確定之後然後改建的監會也確定把這個問題趕快解決這樣子那因為這個鐵路警察局就是派出所啦目前這樣子的位置就是會妨礙到整個元嶺火車站前面的交通的一個動線所以這個道路的拓寬真的也是地方的一個期待\n那未來我這邊也要再建議一下就是說這個鐵路警察局現有的這一個如果拆除遷建之後我們希望這一個空間我們台體公司這邊是不是也在做一個妥善的規劃讓原有的那個計程車排班\n有一個更好的一個位置跟動線是不是可以請董事長這邊是有關於這個遷建以後這地怎麼來用我想第一個就是要來對這個在地的這個交通有所幫助我想這個是最重要的\n是好那我在最後一個問題然後這也是一個小問題就是就是火車站附近真的是交通非常的複雜車流量很大那對停車需求也是非常的大那目前在社統火車站前面目前地方鄉親就有在反映說目前民營的\n停車場的收費太高了那我們了解之後發現說我們在社投火車站附近事實上是有我們台鐵的閒置土地那所以本席在這邊建議說台鐵公司是不是可以善加利用把這個閒置土地規劃來當作停車場然後可以提供民眾使用那也可以在這個費用上能夠盡量的就是減輕那個民眾的一個負擔這樣子\n謝謝委員指教我們朝這方向來進行OK好謝謝鄭董事長我想鄭董事長在高鐵任內的一個成績所以您來擔任台鐵董事長相信大家也是對你寄予厚望希望就是說你以你的經驗能力來帶領是不是可以讓這個百年老店重新有一個活力是不是好謝謝委員指教我盡力來處理好謝謝鄭董事長謝謝部長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.933 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06:14.903\n我想這個維護我們員工的職場上的安全這是我們的責任那在這一方面的話我們也對一些有出現暴力這種不法的這種對的這種旅客對員工的這種傷害我們基本上會尊重我們員工的這個提訴權我們也都會安排我們一些必要的話我們一些法務人員都可以來提供這樣的一個協助\n\n06:15.888 --> 06:27.953\n是就是法務人員是事後發生的協助啦當然我也有看到一個訊息就是說有員工在反映說是不是可以有相關的一些裝備包括密錄器還是什麼之類的可以讓他們\n\n06:29.028 --> 06:51.725\n可以保護自己啦不曉得這方面我們有沒有相關的想法是秘錄器這一部分我們也跟工會這邊有充分的討論員工方面確實是有希望能夠有這樣尤其在列車長這一部分他們希望因為這樣能夠得到保障我想這一部分我們現在積極在研究操作方面來努力\n\n06:52.213 --> 07:20.382\n好謝謝那我們知道其實台鐵的這個旅運安全絕大部分應該是說百分之百要仰賴鐵路警察嘛對不對仰賴鐵路警察所以這個鐵路警察非常的重要那目前就是我的選區有遇到一個問題這個可能要拜託部長來解決就是目前在園林火車站前面的這個鐵路警察局分住所\n\n07:21.022 --> 07:49.171\n他元寧分住所他目前就是面臨到元寧市公所就是地方政府要拓寬這個計畫道路那這個現有的建築物就是必須被拆除一半了啦那拆除一半之後就幾乎應該安全性或者空間就不敷使用了那目前這個經費就是已經爭取到營建署這個是計畫道路內的道路拓寬所以營建署經費都已經補助也撥下去了\n\n07:49.671 --> 08:01.096\n所以地方政府也有那個壓力可是目前就是這個元年分住所那個鐵路警察局他目前沒有一個安身之處所以他還沒有辦法搬那他暫時遷移還沒有著落\n\n08:04.978 --> 08:15.485\n之外呢他未來到底要重建重建的話要建在哪邊所以這個課題因為我們有召開協調會可是對於鐵路警察的單位來說他認為說他是在協助我們台鐵維護治安所以不管是安頓或者是未來的簽建的經費希望交通部這邊要來幫他們解決那我先請教一下部長您的看法\n\n08:35.318 --> 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