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00:01:47,007\n這個撥補的問題好這個我們今天回到這個今天的主題因應國際經貿情勢變化這個部分好這個以阿的戰爭真的是本來說要12日戰爭要停止了但是\n\n5\n00:01:48,382 --> 00:02:11,222\n停火協議,這個兩邊又以一同意,停火又互封,又互相攻擊當然千變萬化了,說不定今天就停了,說不定我們是期盼但是我們沒有辦法預估這個整個世界的局勢,沒有辦法預估世界的局勢\n\n6\n00:02:12,492 --> 00:02:39,341\n所以這個在今天的經濟部的報告裡面特別提到受國際經貿情勢變化影響美元的走勢這些都會跟我們這個台幣的升值都有相關也會影響到我們整個台灣的經濟高度仰賴出口的一個情形所以這個俄烏的戰爭以及\n\n7\n00:02:42,403 --> 00:03:03,893\n伊朗跟以色列的這個戰爭這個都是會影響然後尤其是伊朗又是對這個美國的卡達的這個基地去轟炸上次也也也談到了這個海峽是不是要被被封然後我們自己國內\n\n8\n00:03:06,218 --> 00:03:27,986\n部長也要欠賴總統團結思想用詞還是要小心的不要激怒對岸因為我對賴總統的了解他還真的是台獨的金孫他可以憲法不用改法律不用改\n\n9\n00:03:29,747 --> 00:03:57,701\n第一個完成的是什麼知道嗎部長你可能不會不會感覺到啊大家不會感覺到啊之前就做過了行政院長他當行政院長的時候沒有台灣省政府了憲法還在哦地方制度法還在啊台灣省政府組織規則也還在啊啊所以這個是吉利了啊所以我們兩岸還是要避免戰爭的要和平\n\n10\n00:03:59,401 --> 00:04:10,954\n所以這個會跟我們的經濟都有很大的關係了所以這個部分因為有這樣的一個很多的變數我要談的是說\n\n11\n00:04:12,742 --> 00:04:31,875\n這個當初啊當初特別條例所提出來的本來880億後來增加到930億這個都是正確的但是因為經過了從上次特別條例送到立法院也過了好幾個月然後又增加了這麼多的變數這個930億這樣的額度\n\n12\n00:04:43,629 --> 00:04:53,699\n我們不知道韓國瑜院長因為我們召委已經召開過朝野協商接下來會送給韓國瑜院長來主持\n\n13\n00:04:56,508 --> 00:05:14,115\n所以經濟部也必須要包括農業部都要先因應怎麼樣去針對現在原來的提供企業金融支持提升產業競爭力協助企業開拓多元市場支持勞工安定就業\n\n14\n00:05:16,429 --> 00:05:34,550\n這個部分就經濟部的業務來講這個要隨時的去因應目前有沒有新的想那個規劃新的一個評估是報告委員我想謝謝您的這個關注那因為現在這個法案還在立法院\n\n15\n00:05:35,291 --> 00:05:54,437\n所以已經兩個月了我們事實上要做緊急的對應事實上目前在錢上面是有困難我們現在都先使用過去還有編列的一些預算提早來因應給這些有碰到衝擊的這些\n\n16\n00:05:56,958 --> 00:06:13,912\n這些廠商那我們在盤點看起來就是說我們雖然有提了這麼多的這些方案那當初我們的構想是說這個如果不足我們再來編列但是以現在來講我們在看起來目前\n\n17\n00:06:14,793 --> 00:06:39,379\n大概廠商直接來申請的這個詢問的很多就是每天大概我們的這個快速的這個服務小組我們在每天大概能夠接到七八十通的電話那麼關注的大概就是有哪一些補助但是來申請的因為現在錢也沒下來嘛所以申請的部分還是部長我的意見是我的建議啦\n\n18\n00:06:40,464 --> 00:07:08,915\n是針對千變萬化的國際局勢所以我的意思說在韓國瑜院長主持協商之前你們要有一些因應措施要不要加碼還是怎麼樣增加要怎麼樣調整是這個建議啦好不好是謝謝委員好那接下來就請部長回座請國發會副主委高副主委\n\n19\n00:07:16,315 --> 00:07:37,572\n副主委,跟這個經濟沒有關係但是跟花蓮台東的這個非常有密切的關係那這個因為0403地震去年的0403地震現在一年兩個多月了台鐵宜花東地區鐵路設施安全改善計畫64.1億元\n\n20\n00:07:42,156 --> 00:07:57,066\n行政那個交通部我吹了吹了吹了交通部之後也跟這個你們也提過了所以希望趕快送他結果6月11號之前送了送到行政院行政院當然就交付給這個國發會那現在國發會進度怎麼樣\n\n21\n00:08:00,796 --> 00:08:23,343\n好報告委員的確那個交通部在6月12號報院那行政院在6月16號交一個本會那我們在6月20號已經發文給各個單位然後我們後續會按照審議的程序來辦理那個建議副主委發文是已經發文了對不對對那你們還要開會嘛對不對對\n\n22\n00:08:26,124 --> 00:08:51,148\n拜託趕快開會發文之後不要等那個文來啦請他們帶著開會的時候都帶著那個意見過來好不好因為這個時間很緊迫已經一年多了一年多了我來讓這個副主委看一下回顧一下北回鐵路北回鐵路1973年10月一個颱風\n\n23\n00:08:57,304 --> 00:09:16,556\n1979年12月就完工了而且是在1973年12月25號就動工了兩個月就動工了我們這個已經一年多了然後北迴鐵路總共66年就通車了它多長北迴鐵路79.2公里22個大橋66座隧道\n\n24\n00:09:26,264 --> 00:09:50,411\n是這樣日日夜夜的做你看我們這個現在啊我們要做現在的河南到崇德只有1.6公里而已啊1.6公里啊弄了一年多都還沒有核定啊啊好不好你有錢就堆一下預算嘛特別預算也可以放嘛啊還沒有反正特別預算還沒審定嘛\n\n25\n00:09:51,907 --> 00:10:05,492\n趕快審議好不好好沒有問題另外就是最後的花東台鐵漲價嘛台鐵漲價6月23號開始漲價但是現在花東會員台鐵推了花東會員優惠措施僅限於涉及花東的\n\n26\n00:10:15,523 --> 00:10:30,903\n我們是希望能夠增加那經費當然是希望從花東基金你不能讓台鐵去承擔這個責任所以不能僅限於涉及於花東應該要包含了增加\n\n27\n00:10:31,824 --> 00:10:55,941\n身份證UV的都可以然後他的子女十字血清一傾等的配偶都可以然後還有在花蓮台東就學就業的這些學生跟勞工或是其他的職業的尤其是老人會員老人怎麼會那個會員對不對\n\n28\n00:10:58,997 --> 00:11:24,767\n只要是老人就給他優惠啦還要什麼還要會員老人怎麼會使用那個呢對不對好不好發動基金要支持啦好不好好基本上這個應該是交通部權責啦不過委員的意見我們會表達給交通部然後請交通部再審慎的研議不是我之前啦就覺得是經費啦他們考量是經費啦好不好好OK我們再來協調謝謝好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n629\t29391\t請鄭天才委員做詢答主席有請經濟部部長郭部長部長好辛苦了這個有關\n31917\t59599\t這個電價的部分主要還是能源政策的問題這個部長你要回顧一下你剛上任的時候都提到核能是可以用的總統特別聘請了這個童子賢董事長擔任這個氣候變遷委員會的副召集人副召集人\n60609\t83155\t他也一再強調核能所以這個是一個能源政策的問題所以台電是無辜的但是政府怎麼樣去推動這個不是非常非常的重要所以這個部分這個核能核電可以省千億哪是我們這個\n86501\t107007\t這個撥補的問題好這個我們今天回到這個今天的主題因應國際經貿情勢變化這個部分好這個以阿的戰爭真的是本來說要12日戰爭要停止了但是\n108382\t131222\t停火協議,這個兩邊又以一同意,停火又互封,又互相攻擊當然千變萬化了,說不定今天就停了,說不定我們是期盼但是我們沒有辦法預估這個整個世界的局勢,沒有辦法預估世界的局勢\n132492\t159341\t所以這個在今天的經濟部的報告裡面特別提到受國際經貿情勢變化影響美元的走勢這些都會跟我們這個台幣的升值都有相關也會影響到我們整個台灣的經濟高度仰賴出口的一個情形所以這個俄烏的戰爭以及\n162403\t183893\t伊朗跟以色列的這個戰爭這個都是會影響然後尤其是伊朗又是對這個美國的卡達的這個基地去轟炸上次也也也談到了這個海峽是不是要被被封然後我們自己國內\n186218\t207986\t部長也要欠賴總統團結思想用詞還是要小心的不要激怒對岸因為我對賴總統的了解他還真的是台獨的金孫他可以憲法不用改法律不用改\n209747\t237701\t第一個完成的是什麼知道嗎部長你可能不會不會感覺到啊大家不會感覺到啊之前就做過了行政院長他當行政院長的時候沒有台灣省政府了憲法還在哦地方制度法還在啊台灣省政府組織規則也還在啊啊所以這個是吉利了啊所以我們兩岸還是要避免戰爭的要和平\n239401\t250954\t所以這個會跟我們的經濟都有很大的關係了所以這個部分因為有這樣的一個很多的變數我要談的是說\n252742\t271875\t這個當初啊當初特別條例所提出來的本來880億後來增加到930億這個都是正確的但是因為經過了從上次特別條例送到立法院也過了好幾個月然後又增加了這麼多的變數這個930億這樣的額度\n283629\t293699\t我們不知道韓國瑜院長因為我們召委已經召開過朝野協商接下來會送給韓國瑜院長來主持\n296508\t314115\t所以經濟部也必須要包括農業部都要先因應怎麼樣去針對現在原來的提供企業金融支持提升產業競爭力協助企業開拓多元市場支持勞工安定就業\n316429\t334550\t這個部分就經濟部的業務來講這個要隨時的去因應目前有沒有新的想那個規劃新的一個評估是 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對\n506124\t531148\t拜託趕快開會發文之後不要等那個文來啦請他們帶著開會的時候都帶著那個意見過來好不好因為這個時間很緊迫已經一年多了一年多了我來讓這個副主委看一下回顧一下北回鐵路北回鐵路1973年10月一個颱風\n537304\t556556\t1979年12月就完工了而且是在1973年12月25號就動工了兩個月就動工了我們這個已經一年多了然後北迴鐵路總共66年就通車了它多長北迴鐵路79.2公里22個大橋66座隧道\n566264\t590411\t是這樣日日夜夜的做你看我們這個現在啊我們要做現在的河南到崇德只有1.6公里而已啊1.6公里啊弄了一年多都還沒有核定啊啊好不好你有錢就堆一下預算嘛特別預算也可以放嘛啊還沒有反正特別預算還沒審定嘛\n591907\t605492\t趕快審議好不好好沒有問題另外就是最後的花東台鐵漲價嘛台鐵漲價6月23號開始漲價但是現在花東會員台鐵推了花東會員優惠措施僅限於涉及花東的\n615523\t630903\t我們是希望能夠增加那經費當然是希望從花東基金你不能讓台鐵去承擔這個責任所以不能僅限於涉及於花東應該要包含了增加\n631824\t655941\t身份證UV的都可以然後他的子女十字血清一傾等的配偶都可以然後還有在花蓮台東就學就業的這些學生跟勞工或是其他的職業的尤其是老人會員老人怎麼會那個會員對不對\n658997\t684767\t只要是老人就給他優惠啦 還要什麼 還要會員老人怎麼會使用那個呢 對不對好不好 發動基金要支持啦 好不好好 基本上這個應該是交通部權責啦不過委員的意見我們會表達給交通部然後請交通部再審慎的研議不是 我之前啦 就覺得是經費啦他們考量是經費啦 好不好好 OK我們再來協調 謝謝好 謝謝\n","txt":"請鄭天才委員做詢答主席有請經濟部部長郭部長部長好辛苦了這個有關\n這個電價的部分主要還是能源政策的問題這個部長你要回顧一下你剛上任的時候都提到核能是可以用的總統特別聘請了這個童子賢董事長擔任這個氣候變遷委員會的副召集人副召集人\n他也一再強調核能所以這個是一個能源政策的問題所以台電是無辜的但是政府怎麼樣去推動這個不是非常非常的重要所以這個部分這個核能核電可以省千億哪是我們這個\n這個撥補的問題好這個我們今天回到這個今天的主題因應國際經貿情勢變化這個部分好這個以阿的戰爭真的是本來說要12日戰爭要停止了但是\n停火協議,這個兩邊又以一同意,停火又互封,又互相攻擊當然千變萬化了,說不定今天就停了,說不定我們是期盼但是我們沒有辦法預估這個整個世界的局勢,沒有辦法預估世界的局勢\n所以這個在今天的經濟部的報告裡面特別提到受國際經貿情勢變化影響美元的走勢這些都會跟我們這個台幣的升值都有相關也會影響到我們整個台灣的經濟高度仰賴出口的一個情形所以這個俄烏的戰爭以及\n伊朗跟以色列的這個戰爭這個都是會影響然後尤其是伊朗又是對這個美國的卡達的這個基地去轟炸上次也也也談到了這個海峽是不是要被被封然後我們自己國內\n部長也要欠賴總統團結思想用詞還是要小心的不要激怒對岸因為我對賴總統的了解他還真的是台獨的金孫他可以憲法不用改法律不用改\n第一個完成的是什麼知道嗎部長你可能不會不會感覺到啊大家不會感覺到啊之前就做過了行政院長他當行政院長的時候沒有台灣省政府了憲法還在哦地方制度法還在啊台灣省政府組織規則也還在啊啊所以這個是吉利了啊所以我們兩岸還是要避免戰爭的要和平\n所以這個會跟我們的經濟都有很大的關係了所以這個部分因為有這樣的一個很多的變數我要談的是說\n這個當初啊當初特別條例所提出來的本來880億後來增加到930億這個都是正確的但是因為經過了從上次特別條例送到立法院也過了好幾個月然後又增加了這麼多的變數這個930億這樣的額度\n我們不知道韓國瑜院長因為我們召委已經召開過朝野協商接下來會送給韓國瑜院長來主持\n所以經濟部也必須要包括農業部都要先因應怎麼樣去針對現在原來的提供企業金融支持提升產業競爭力協助企業開拓多元市場支持勞工安定就業\n這個部分就經濟部的業務來講這個要隨時的去因應目前有沒有新的想那個規劃新的一個評估是 報告委員我想謝謝您的這個關注那因為現在這個法案還在立法院\n所以已經兩個月了我們事實上要做緊急的對應事實上目前在錢上面是有困難我們現在都先使用過去還有編列的一些預算提早來因應給這些有碰到衝擊的這些\n這些廠商那我們在盤點看起來就是說我們雖然有提了這麼多的這些方案那當初我們的構想是說這個如果不足我們再來編列但是以現在來講我們在看起來目前\n大概廠商直接來申請的這個詢問的很多就是每天大概我們的這個快速的這個服務小組我們在每天大概能夠接到七八十通的電話那麼關注的大概就是有哪一些補助但是來申請的因為現在錢也沒下來嘛所以申請的部分還是部長我的意見是我的建議啦\n是針對千變萬化的國際局勢所以我的意思說在韓國瑜院長主持協商之前你們要有一些因應措施要不要加碼還是怎麼樣增加要怎麼樣調整是這個建議啦好不好是謝謝委員好那接下來就請部長回座請國發會副主委高副主委\n副主委,跟這個經濟沒有關係但是跟花蓮台東的這個非常有密切的關係那這個因為0403地震去年的0403地震現在一年兩個多月了台鐵宜花東地區鐵路設施安全改善計畫64.1億元\n行政那個交通部我吹了吹了吹了交通部之後也跟這個你們也提過了所以希望趕快送他結果6月11號之前送了送到行政院行政院當然就交付給這個國發會那現在國發會進度怎麼樣\n好 報告委員 的確那個交通部在6月12號報院那行政院在6月16號交一個本會那我們在6月20號已經發文給各個單位然後我們後續會按照審議的程序來辦理那個建議副主委發文 是已經發文了對不對 對那你們還要開會嘛 對不對 對\n拜託趕快開會發文之後不要等那個文來啦請他們帶著開會的時候都帶著那個意見過來好不好因為這個時間很緊迫已經一年多了一年多了我來讓這個副主委看一下回顧一下北回鐵路北回鐵路1973年10月一個颱風\n1979年12月就完工了而且是在1973年12月25號就動工了兩個月就動工了我們這個已經一年多了然後北迴鐵路總共66年就通車了它多長北迴鐵路79.2公里22個大橋66座隧道\n是這樣日日夜夜的做你看我們這個現在啊我們要做現在的河南到崇德只有1.6公里而已啊1.6公里啊弄了一年多都還沒有核定啊啊好不好你有錢就堆一下預算嘛特別預算也可以放嘛啊還沒有反正特別預算還沒審定嘛\n趕快審議好不好好沒有問題另外就是最後的花東台鐵漲價嘛台鐵漲價6月23號開始漲價但是現在花東會員台鐵推了花東會員優惠措施僅限於涉及花東的\n我們是希望能夠增加那經費當然是希望從花東基金你不能讓台鐵去承擔這個責任所以不能僅限於涉及於花東應該要包含了增加\n身份證UV的都可以然後他的子女十字血清一傾等的配偶都可以然後還有在花蓮台東就學就業的這些學生跟勞工或是其他的職業的尤其是老人會員老人怎麼會那個會員對不對\n只要是老人就給他優惠啦 還要什麼 還要會員老人怎麼會使用那個呢 對不對好不好 發動基金要支持啦 好不好好 基本上這個應該是交通部權責啦不過委員的意見我們會表達給交通部然後請交通部再審慎的研議不是 我之前啦 就覺得是經費啦他們考量是經費啦 好不好好 OK我們再來協調 謝謝好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.629 --> 00:29.391\n請鄭天才委員做詢答主席有請經濟部部長郭部長部長好辛苦了這個有關\n\n00:31.917 --> 00:59.599\n這個電價的部分主要還是能源政策的問題這個部長你要回顧一下你剛上任的時候都提到核能是可以用的總統特別聘請了這個童子賢董事長擔任這個氣候變遷委員會的副召集人副召集人\n\n01:00.609 --> 01:23.155\n他也一再強調核能所以這個是一個能源政策的問題所以台電是無辜的但是政府怎麼樣去推動這個不是非常非常的重要所以這個部分這個核能核電可以省千億哪是我們這個\n\n01:26.501 --> 01:47.007\n這個撥補的問題好這個我們今天回到這個今天的主題因應國際經貿情勢變化這個部分好這個以阿的戰爭真的是本來說要12日戰爭要停止了但是\n\n01:48.382 --> 02:11.222\n停火協議,這個兩邊又以一同意,停火又互封,又互相攻擊當然千變萬化了,說不定今天就停了,說不定我們是期盼但是我們沒有辦法預估這個整個世界的局勢,沒有辦法預估世界的局勢\n\n02:12.492 --> 02:39.341\n所以這個在今天的經濟部的報告裡面特別提到受國際經貿情勢變化影響美元的走勢這些都會跟我們這個台幣的升值都有相關也會影響到我們整個台灣的經濟高度仰賴出口的一個情形所以這個俄烏的戰爭以及\n\n02:42.403 --> 03:03.893\n伊朗跟以色列的這個戰爭這個都是會影響然後尤其是伊朗又是對這個美國的卡達的這個基地去轟炸上次也也也談到了這個海峽是不是要被被封然後我們自己國內\n\n03:06.218 --> 03:27.986\n部長也要欠賴總統團結思想用詞還是要小心的不要激怒對岸因為我對賴總統的了解他還真的是台獨的金孫他可以憲法不用改法律不用改\n\n03:29.747 --> 03:57.701\n第一個完成的是什麼知道嗎部長你可能不會不會感覺到啊大家不會感覺到啊之前就做過了行政院長他當行政院長的時候沒有台灣省政府了憲法還在哦地方制度法還在啊台灣省政府組織規則也還在啊啊所以這個是吉利了啊所以我們兩岸還是要避免戰爭的要和平\n\n03:59.401 --> 04:10.954\n所以這個會跟我們的經濟都有很大的關係了所以這個部分因為有這樣的一個很多的變數我要談的是說\n\n04:12.742 --> 04:31.875\n這個當初啊當初特別條例所提出來的本來880億後來增加到930億這個都是正確的但是因為經過了從上次特別條例送到立法院也過了好幾個月然後又增加了這麼多的變數這個930億這樣的額度\n\n04:43.629 --> 04:53.699\n我們不知道韓國瑜院長因為我們召委已經召開過朝野協商接下來會送給韓國瑜院長來主持\n\n04:56.508 --> 05:14.115\n所以經濟部也必須要包括農業部都要先因應怎麼樣去針對現在原來的提供企業金融支持提升產業競爭力協助企業開拓多元市場支持勞工安定就業\n\n05:16.429 --> 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Kacaw委員：另外就是最後的，臺鐵6月23號開始漲價，現在臺鐵推了花東會員優惠措施，但是僅限於設籍花東的，我們是希望能夠增加，經費當然是希望從花東基金支應，不能讓臺鐵去承擔這個責任，所以不能僅限於設籍花東，應該要增加身分證字號開頭為U、V的都可以，然後他的子女、直系血親一親等的、配偶都可以，還有在花蓮、臺東就學、就業的這些學生跟勞工，或是其他的職業的，尤其是老人，老人怎麼會申請會員呢？只要是老人就給他優惠啦！還要什麼會員？老人怎麼會使用那個呢？花東基金要支持啦！好不好？"],["高副主任委員仙桂：好，基本上這個應該是交通部的權責，不過委員的意見我們會表達給交通部，請交通部再審慎地研議。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：最主要是經費啦！他們考量的是經費啦！好不好？"],["高副主任委員仙桂：好，我們再協調，謝謝。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝。","現在請邱志偉委員做詢答。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":464,"meet_id":"委員會-11-3-19-17","speakers":["謝衣鳯","鄭正鈐","林岱樺","張嘉郡","張啓楷","陳亭妃","賴瑞隆","鄭天財Sra Kacaw","邱志偉","陳超明","黃國昌","楊瓊瓔","劉書彬","涂權吉","徐欣瑩","葉元之","蔡易餘","呂玉玲","邱議瑩","牛煦庭"],"page_start":397,"meetingDate":["2025-06-25"],"gazette_id":"1146401","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1146401_00009"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第17次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"邀請國家發展委員會主任委員、經濟部部長、農業部部長及中央銀行首長就「因應國際經貿情勢\n變化，如何協助我國產業面對台幣匯率及國際能源價格遽變」進行報告，並備質詢","agenda_id":"1146401_00008"}}}