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00:01:06,836\n的看起來好像詐騙的數量跟金額跟去年8月打詐欺表板的比較起來好像是有稍微下降一下可是大家知道去年8月的時候剛打詐欺表板剛上路的時候那時候的詐騙金額很多那如果我們從這個今年三四五月的金額來看我可以簡單來跟大家報告一下\n\n4\n00:01:07,659 --> 00:01:15,363\n今年3月份詐騙數量16000件詐騙金額損失70億今年的4月詐騙數量15961件詐騙金額往上升76億今年5月詐騙的數量1603件詐騙的金額高達87億在大家如果可以上網查一下\n\n5\n00:01:34,366 --> 00:01:58,415\n在這個月6月15號到6月21號一週詐騙的金額就高達21億詐騙的數量高達3909件所以我必須今天要跟部長跟我們所有在場的官員大家報告的是說我相信政府單位也看到民眾他的難處看到被詐騙的人的心酸\n\n6\n00:01:59,195 --> 00:02:24,686\n可是現在的數字代表的就是詐騙的金額跟數量接接攀升那我希望說大家在開這樣子的質詢或者在開討論這樣的事情的時候不能說好像大家都認為說好像詐騙沒有這樣子的發生的數量沒有再往上升我覺得這樣子的話會讓大家覺得我知道大家有在努力可是這個數字大家可以看到現在詐騙的不管是手法\n\n7\n00:02:25,606 --> 00:02:44,563\n跟詐騙金額被受害的人數是越來越高所以在這邊我也要拜託今天這麼多各部會的長官在這邊一定要苦民所苦好好大家跨部會來協調來處理這樣子的詐騙案件就像我們上個會期跟劉四方部長在113年的7月21號其實打詐\n\n8\n00:02:47,586 --> 00:03:16,302\n打詐的新法令都已經上路了所以以及現在大家在討論很多打詐相關的法令其實我們立法院是願意給我們各部會支持跟協助給大家很多的工具可是我們現在看到的不管是金額跟數量都非常的高一年如果我們這樣換算下來一年詐騙的金額將近千億所以真的是讓本席讓我覺得非常不能接受而且我們真的面對到很多受詐騙的民眾他們真的是非常的\n\n9\n00:03:17,672 --> 00:03:41,423\n不僅家裡造成了很多的紛爭很多人到現在都是很長期的精神的壓力跟後遺症都蠻多的那接下來我要請教今天要審查詐騙這個犯罪條例的內容那我想要跟部長報告幾個新型的詐騙的形態跟樣態要跟請部長來協助也可以帶回去跟各部會來做討論\n\n10\n00:03:42,904 --> 00:04:06,659\n那現在詐騙手段隨著科技進步不斷更新連AI人工智慧或是DeepSync也變成詐騙集團使用的一個方式而且用的越來越如火純青尤其警政署在165的全民詐騙網也提到說詐團現在會用AI假冒檢警來模擬出真實的語音跟臉孔進一步讓被害人落入陷阱\n\n11\n00:04:07,259 --> 00:04:32,828\n那我想要請教我們現在的政府單位針對這種AIDeepSeek的模擬比如說我現在進去一個投資網突然我被邀請到一個投資網他說我是某某投資的名師我根本沒辦法分辨他是某某投資的名師是不是他創立的網站那現在他更厲害的點他可以模仿這個詐騙名字的聲音讓被害人更加相信說這個網站就是某某投資名師的網站\n\n12\n00:04:34,068 --> 00:05:00,016\n那對於現在這樣的機制我們有沒有相關的法令或是對防詐的技術有沒有相關的一個因應的措施是不是請部長或署長來幫我們回答一下謝謝張委員我們都有同理心來處理有關於這個詐團裡面對於犯罪所以才會今天委員提案要加重其刑那我們都會很努力來處理那相關你剛有提到說假檢警的部分我是不是請署長來跟您回答一下好謝謝部長\n\n13\n00:05:00,456 --> 00:05:14,642\n委員好目前委員所提的就是新型的一個炸機假檢警的一個炸機就是AIDeepSeek的深圍的技術它用視訊的方式用那個場景包括夾警察用視訊的方式那這個是用AI這個生成這個技術的一個模擬的一個一個詐騙的方式那這部分我們目前也會做加強的做一個宣導或做做查集的一個工作\n\n14\n00:05:29,989 --> 00:05:47,547\n那我們在第一時間都會把這一些的訊息就是對於這一些試炸讓民眾知道這一些沒有在用這樣的一個公共機關沒有在做視訊這樣的一個方式讓民眾能夠第一時間能夠了解這是一個炸數\n\n15\n00:05:48,953 --> 00:06:07,993\n那我請教署長那現在如果是這樣的話就是我是偽裝可是我不是真正的檢警那這樣子的話我們現在台灣有相關的法令可以處罰他嗎就是你相信我了你相信這個詐騙人可是他有沒有相關的法令說這個的確就是犯罪行為還是說他就是誤自己本身受害人自己的誤解的意思\n\n16\n00:06:08,974 --> 00:06:23,689\n對這個是一個深為的一個因為我要跟署長報告就是像現在在美國啊也最近通過了就是AI相關的法令就是針對詐騙的形態的犯罪的法令那現在台灣目前來講還是還沒有相關的法令這個我要提醒署長跟部長的部分那現在\n\n17\n00:06:24,770 --> 00:06:43,551\n台灣已經這個詐騙集團已經跟上了這樣子的詐騙的方式跟手法會被我們宣導了以後可是這樣子的加害人他其實是可以逍遙法外的你誤會我啊可是我沒有說我要我就是你這被害人就是他沒有一個法令他可以去來告發這些人\n\n18\n00:06:44,758 --> 00:07:05,907\n那這個部分看看他就是對於這一些一個他的這個行為的一個狀況來做一個依據嗎那我們為了看他的這個方式是怎麼樣來做一個研究一個相關法律來做一個規範好那是不是給署長一點時間如何要來宣傳因為現在我們現在如果沒有相關的法令那執行上你如何去宣傳\n\n19\n00:07:06,787 --> 00:07:22,020\n我個人覺得宣傳最好的一個管道中有兩個面向第一個就是一個電視的媒體或者是網路平台面比較廣的這個部分我們會把這個做一個影片跟案例\n\n20\n00:07:22,961 --> 00:07:47,831\n影片跟愛意來做推播的一個宣導那再來就是在哪個平台上可以看得到就是在電視或者網路平台都可以看得到我們未來會朝這個是一個一個新型的一個詐騙的我們會製成一個影片來做一個宣導提供給各相關單位來做宣導但是兩個管道就是我們上次在立法院有特別提到就是一個網路媒體\n\n21\n00:07:48,931 --> 00:07:53,423\n或者是電視的一個這樣的一個平台來做一個宣導讓這個面更廣\n\n22\n00:07:56,175 --> 00:08:14,567\n是好謝謝那部長不好意思我可以再請署長再請教一下那現在還有另外一種的詐騙其實剛剛我們警政署或是詐騙儀表板其實有統計出來說詐騙最大的五個形態分別是投資假投資詐騙網路購入詐騙以及假冒買方來去騙賣方的一種詐騙或是假交友\n\n23\n00:08:19,950 --> 00:08:38,854\n主要是徵婚那也是假交友或另外是投資所以整個形態來講大概是以投資詐騙為最大宗那現在最近我遇到了很多的詐騙案例也是特別討論說投資詐騙的案例非常的多那很多就是說對虛擬貨幣有相關興趣的民眾在抖音認識網友然後對方透過LINE聯繫來推薦投資機會\n\n24\n00:08:45,396 --> 00:08:57,970\n那讓他去下載一些APP的一個部分來去做詐騙的一個情況那最後我想要請教署長你們有沒有在偵查的部分就謹慎署的角度針對這種投資詐騙你們要如何去查起\n\n25\n00:08:58,516 --> 00:09:17,307\n那包委員現在投資詐騙是大概就是詐騙裡面的這個金額最多而且時間最長委員你這個裡面的資料WalletAPP這是一個冷錢包的一個就是把錢藏在這裡面的一個詐騙的一個手法那這部分我們檢定署都有專責的一個單位會對這些\n\n26\n00:09:22,170 --> 00:09:50,302\n比較這個請問是哪一個單位包括刑事局各縣市警察局的刑警大隊或各分局的偵查隊會針對這一些投資的一個這個詐騙的部分會比較做深入的去做蒐證那我們這個部分也都破了非常多從今年一到五年就破一千五百多團的一個這一些的一個詐團所以我想我們的這個偵破的這個能力都有這個部分也跟委員報告那我們\n\n27\n00:09:51,162 --> 00:10:03,367\n現在這個檢舉組的這個就是配合法務部的這個懲詐這個成就都比往年都進步了非常多我想這也是我們一個一個宣導以及查集的一個重點\n\n28\n00:10:04,958 --> 00:10:23,023\n好最後還是要謝謝署長跟部長我相信大家都非常的辛苦那每年我也要跟署長跟部長報告每年我們都會開一場公聽會那希望收集各位專家所有被害人的一些意見那希望說我大概每年大概年底的時候會辦那到時候再拜託部長署長以及各位我們各單位的長官一起來討論謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n229\t25942\t好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早有請劉世芳劉部長好請部長委員早部長早好今天非常感謝不管是內政部金管會NCC速發部各位的長官今天都在現場那今天講的是有關於有關於詐騙我們這個修法的一些內容可是我想民眾更有感的是現在詐騙金額\n28243\t44093\t每個月不斷上升我們看到很多被詐騙的民眾只要一被詐騙簡直就是夜不能醒就是食不下宴非常的可憐當然看到今天內政部的資訊說在今年度\n45214\t66836\t的看起來好像詐騙的數量跟金額跟去年8月打詐欺表板的比較起來好像是有稍微下降一下可是大家知道去年8月的時候剛打詐欺表板剛上路的時候那時候的詐騙金額很多那如果我們從這個今年三四五月的金額來看我可以簡單來跟大家報告一下\n67659\t75363\t今年3月份詐騙數量16000件詐騙金額損失70億今年的4月詐騙數量15961件詐騙金額往上升76億今年5月詐騙的數量1603件詐騙的金額高達87億在大家如果可以上網查一下\n94366\t118415\t在這個月6月15號到6月21號一週詐騙的金額就高達21億詐騙的數量高達3909件所以我必須今天要跟部長跟我們所有在場的官員大家報告的是說我相信政府單位也看到民眾他的難處看到被詐騙的人的心酸\n119195\t144686\t可是現在的數字代表的就是詐騙的金額跟數量接接攀升那我希望說大家在開這樣子的質詢或者在開討論這樣的事情的時候不能說好像大家都認為說好像詐騙沒有這樣子的發生的數量沒有再往上升我覺得這樣子的話會讓大家覺得我知道大家有在努力可是這個數字大家可以看到現在詐騙的不管是手法\n145606\t164563\t跟詐騙金額被受害的人數是越來越高所以在這邊我也要拜託今天這麼多各部會的長官在這邊一定要苦民所苦好好大家跨部會來協調來處理這樣子的詐騙案件就像我們上個會期跟劉四方部長在113年的7月21號其實打詐\n167586\t196302\t打詐的新法令都已經上路了所以以及現在大家在討論很多打詐相關的法令其實我們立法院是願意給我們各部會支持跟協助給大家很多的工具可是我們現在看到的不管是金額跟數量都非常的高一年如果我們這樣換算下來一年詐騙的金額將近千億所以真的是讓本席讓我覺得非常不能接受而且我們真的面對到很多受詐騙的民眾他們真的是非常的\n197672\t221423\t不僅家裡造成了很多的紛爭很多人到現在都是很長期的精神的壓力跟後遺症都蠻多的那接下來我要請教今天要審查詐騙這個犯罪條例的內容那我想要跟部長報告幾個新型的詐騙的形態跟樣態要跟請部長來協助也可以帶回去跟各部會來做討論\n222904\t246659\t那現在詐騙手段隨著科技進步不斷更新連AI人工智慧或是DeepSync也變成詐騙集團使用的一個方式而且用的越來越如火純青尤其警政署在165的全民詐騙網也提到說詐團現在會用AI假冒檢警來模擬出真實的語音跟臉孔進一步讓被害人落入陷阱\n247259\t272828\t那我想要請教我們現在的政府單位針對這種AI Deep Seek的模擬比如說我現在進去一個投資網突然我被邀請到一個投資網他說我是某某投資的名師我根本沒辦法分辨他是某某投資的名師是不是他創立的網站那現在他更厲害的點他可以模仿這個詐騙名字的聲音讓被害人更加相信說這個網站就是某某投資名師的網站\n274068\t300016\t那對於現在這樣的機制我們有沒有相關的法令或是對防詐的技術有沒有相關的一個因應的措施是不是請部長或署長來幫我們回答一下謝謝張委員我們都有同理心來處理有關於這個詐團裡面對於犯罪所以才會今天委員提案要加重其刑那我們都會很努力來處理那相關你剛有提到說假檢警的部分我是不是請署長來跟您回答一下好謝謝部長\n300456\t314642\t委員好 目前委員所提的就是新型的一個炸機 假檢警的一個炸機就是AI Deep Seek的深圍的技術它用視訊的方式 用那個場景包括夾警察用視訊的方式那這個是用AI這個生成這個技術的一個模擬的一個一個詐騙的方式那這部分我們目前也會做加強的做一個宣導或做做查集的一個工作\n329989\t347547\t那我們在第一時間都會把這一些的訊息就是對於這一些試炸讓民眾知道這一些沒有在用這樣的一個公共機關沒有在做視訊這樣的一個方式讓民眾能夠第一時間能夠了解這是一個炸數\n348953\t367993\t那我請教署長那現在如果是這樣的話就是我是偽裝可是我不是真正的檢警那這樣子的話我們現在台灣有相關的法令可以處罰他嗎就是你相信我了你相信這個詐騙人可是他有沒有相關的法令說這個的確就是犯罪行為還是說他就是誤自己本身受害人自己的誤解的意思\n368974\t383689\t對 這個是一個深為的一個因為我要跟署長報告就是像現在在美國啊也最近通過了就是AI相關的法令就是針對詐騙的形態的犯罪的法令那現在台灣目前來講還是還沒有相關的法令這個我要提醒署長跟部長的部分那現在\n384770\t403551\t台灣已經這個詐騙集團已經跟上了這樣子的詐騙的方式跟手法會被我們宣導了以後可是這樣子的加害人他其實是可以逍遙法外的你誤會我啊可是我沒有說我要我就是你這被害人就是他沒有一個法令他可以去來告發這些人\n404758\t425907\t那這個部分看看他就是對於這一些一個他的這個行為的一個狀況來做一個依據嗎那我們為了看他的這個方式是怎麼樣來做一個研究一個相關法律來做一個規範好那是不是給署長一點時間如何要來宣傳因為現在我們現在如果沒有相關的法令那執行上你如何去宣傳\n426787\t442020\t我個人覺得宣傳最好的一個管道中有兩個面向第一個就是一個電視的媒體或者是網路平台面比較廣的這個部分我們會把這個做一個影片跟案例\n442961\t467831\t影片跟愛意來做推播的一個宣導那再來就是在哪個平台上可以看得到就是在電視或者網路平台都可以看得到我們未來會朝這個是一個一個新型的一個詐騙的我們會製成一個影片來做一個宣導提供給各相關單位來做宣導但是兩個管道就是我們上次在立法院有特別提到就是一個網路媒體\n468931\t473423\t或者是電視的一個這樣的一個平台來做一個宣導讓這個面更廣\n476175\t494567\t是好謝謝那部長不好意思我可以再請署長再請教一下那現在還有另外一種的詐騙其實剛剛我們警政署或是詐騙儀表板其實有統計出來說詐騙最大的五個形態分別是投資假投資詐騙網路購入詐騙以及假冒買方來去騙賣方的一種詐騙或是假交友\n499950\t518854\t主要是徵婚那也是假交友或另外是投資所以整個形態來講大概是以投資詐騙為最大宗那現在最近我遇到了很多的詐騙案例也是特別討論說投資詐騙的案例非常的多那很多就是說對虛擬貨幣有相關興趣的民眾在抖音認識網友然後對方透過LINE聯繫來推薦投資機會\n525396\t537970\t那讓他去下載一些APP的一個部分來去做詐騙的一個情況那最後我想要請教署長你們有沒有在偵查的部分就謹慎署的角度針對這種投資詐騙你們要如何去查起\n538516\t557307\t那包委員現在投資詐騙是大概就是詐騙裡面的這個金額最多而且時間最長委員你這個裡面的資料Wallet APP這是一個冷錢包的一個就是把錢藏在這裡面的一個詐騙的一個手法那這部分我們檢定署都有專責的一個單位會對這些\n562170\t590302\t比較這個 請問是哪一個單位 包括刑事局各縣市警察局的刑警大隊或各分局的偵查隊會針對這一些投資的一個這個詐騙的部分會比較做深入的去做蒐證那我們這個部分也都破了非常多 從今年一到五年就破一千五百多團的一個這一些的一個詐團所以我想我們的這個偵破的這個能力都有 這個部分也跟委員報告 那我們\n591162\t603367\t現在這個檢舉組的這個就是配合法務部的這個懲詐這個成就都比往年都進步了非常多我想這也是我們一個一個宣導以及查集的一個重點\n604958\t623023\t好最後還是要謝謝署長跟部長我相信大家都非常的辛苦那每年我也要跟署長跟部長報告每年我們都會開一場公聽會那希望收集各位專家所有被害人的一些意見那希望說我大概每年大概年底的時候會辦那到時候再拜託部長署長以及各位我們各單位的長官一起來討論謝謝\n","txt":"好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早有請劉世芳劉部長好請部長委員早部長早好今天非常感謝不管是內政部金管會NCC速發部各位的長官今天都在現場那今天講的是有關於有關於詐騙我們這個修法的一些內容可是我想民眾更有感的是現在詐騙金額\n每個月不斷上升我們看到很多被詐騙的民眾只要一被詐騙簡直就是夜不能醒就是食不下宴非常的可憐當然看到今天內政部的資訊說在今年度\n的看起來好像詐騙的數量跟金額跟去年8月打詐欺表板的比較起來好像是有稍微下降一下可是大家知道去年8月的時候剛打詐欺表板剛上路的時候那時候的詐騙金額很多那如果我們從這個今年三四五月的金額來看我可以簡單來跟大家報告一下\n今年3月份詐騙數量16000件詐騙金額損失70億今年的4月詐騙數量15961件詐騙金額往上升76億今年5月詐騙的數量1603件詐騙的金額高達87億在大家如果可以上網查一下\n在這個月6月15號到6月21號一週詐騙的金額就高達21億詐騙的數量高達3909件所以我必須今天要跟部長跟我們所有在場的官員大家報告的是說我相信政府單位也看到民眾他的難處看到被詐騙的人的心酸\n可是現在的數字代表的就是詐騙的金額跟數量接接攀升那我希望說大家在開這樣子的質詢或者在開討論這樣的事情的時候不能說好像大家都認為說好像詐騙沒有這樣子的發生的數量沒有再往上升我覺得這樣子的話會讓大家覺得我知道大家有在努力可是這個數字大家可以看到現在詐騙的不管是手法\n跟詐騙金額被受害的人數是越來越高所以在這邊我也要拜託今天這麼多各部會的長官在這邊一定要苦民所苦好好大家跨部會來協調來處理這樣子的詐騙案件就像我們上個會期跟劉四方部長在113年的7月21號其實打詐\n打詐的新法令都已經上路了所以以及現在大家在討論很多打詐相關的法令其實我們立法院是願意給我們各部會支持跟協助給大家很多的工具可是我們現在看到的不管是金額跟數量都非常的高一年如果我們這樣換算下來一年詐騙的金額將近千億所以真的是讓本席讓我覺得非常不能接受而且我們真的面對到很多受詐騙的民眾他們真的是非常的\n不僅家裡造成了很多的紛爭很多人到現在都是很長期的精神的壓力跟後遺症都蠻多的那接下來我要請教今天要審查詐騙這個犯罪條例的內容那我想要跟部長報告幾個新型的詐騙的形態跟樣態要跟請部長來協助也可以帶回去跟各部會來做討論\n那現在詐騙手段隨著科技進步不斷更新連AI人工智慧或是DeepSync也變成詐騙集團使用的一個方式而且用的越來越如火純青尤其警政署在165的全民詐騙網也提到說詐團現在會用AI假冒檢警來模擬出真實的語音跟臉孔進一步讓被害人落入陷阱\n那我想要請教我們現在的政府單位針對這種AI Deep Seek的模擬比如說我現在進去一個投資網突然我被邀請到一個投資網他說我是某某投資的名師我根本沒辦法分辨他是某某投資的名師是不是他創立的網站那現在他更厲害的點他可以模仿這個詐騙名字的聲音讓被害人更加相信說這個網站就是某某投資名師的網站\n那對於現在這樣的機制我們有沒有相關的法令或是對防詐的技術有沒有相關的一個因應的措施是不是請部長或署長來幫我們回答一下謝謝張委員我們都有同理心來處理有關於這個詐團裡面對於犯罪所以才會今天委員提案要加重其刑那我們都會很努力來處理那相關你剛有提到說假檢警的部分我是不是請署長來跟您回答一下好謝謝部長\n委員好 目前委員所提的就是新型的一個炸機 假檢警的一個炸機就是AI Deep Seek的深圍的技術它用視訊的方式 用那個場景包括夾警察用視訊的方式那這個是用AI這個生成這個技術的一個模擬的一個一個詐騙的方式那這部分我們目前也會做加強的做一個宣導或做做查集的一個工作\n那我們在第一時間都會把這一些的訊息就是對於這一些試炸讓民眾知道這一些沒有在用這樣的一個公共機關沒有在做視訊這樣的一個方式讓民眾能夠第一時間能夠了解這是一個炸數\n那我請教署長那現在如果是這樣的話就是我是偽裝可是我不是真正的檢警那這樣子的話我們現在台灣有相關的法令可以處罰他嗎就是你相信我了你相信這個詐騙人可是他有沒有相關的法令說這個的確就是犯罪行為還是說他就是誤自己本身受害人自己的誤解的意思\n對 這個是一個深為的一個因為我要跟署長報告就是像現在在美國啊也最近通過了就是AI相關的法令就是針對詐騙的形態的犯罪的法令那現在台灣目前來講還是還沒有相關的法令這個我要提醒署長跟部長的部分那現在\n台灣已經這個詐騙集團已經跟上了這樣子的詐騙的方式跟手法會被我們宣導了以後可是這樣子的加害人他其實是可以逍遙法外的你誤會我啊可是我沒有說我要我就是你這被害人就是他沒有一個法令他可以去來告發這些人\n那這個部分看看他就是對於這一些一個他的這個行為的一個狀況來做一個依據嗎那我們為了看他的這個方式是怎麼樣來做一個研究一個相關法律來做一個規範好那是不是給署長一點時間如何要來宣傳因為現在我們現在如果沒有相關的法令那執行上你如何去宣傳\n我個人覺得宣傳最好的一個管道中有兩個面向第一個就是一個電視的媒體或者是網路平台面比較廣的這個部分我們會把這個做一個影片跟案例\n影片跟愛意來做推播的一個宣導那再來就是在哪個平台上可以看得到就是在電視或者網路平台都可以看得到我們未來會朝這個是一個一個新型的一個詐騙的我們會製成一個影片來做一個宣導提供給各相關單位來做宣導但是兩個管道就是我們上次在立法院有特別提到就是一個網路媒體\n或者是電視的一個這樣的一個平台來做一個宣導讓這個面更廣\n是好謝謝那部長不好意思我可以再請署長再請教一下那現在還有另外一種的詐騙其實剛剛我們警政署或是詐騙儀表板其實有統計出來說詐騙最大的五個形態分別是投資假投資詐騙網路購入詐騙以及假冒買方來去騙賣方的一種詐騙或是假交友\n主要是徵婚那也是假交友或另外是投資所以整個形態來講大概是以投資詐騙為最大宗那現在最近我遇到了很多的詐騙案例也是特別討論說投資詐騙的案例非常的多那很多就是說對虛擬貨幣有相關興趣的民眾在抖音認識網友然後對方透過LINE聯繫來推薦投資機會\n那讓他去下載一些APP的一個部分來去做詐騙的一個情況那最後我想要請教署長你們有沒有在偵查的部分就謹慎署的角度針對這種投資詐騙你們要如何去查起\n那包委員現在投資詐騙是大概就是詐騙裡面的這個金額最多而且時間最長委員你這個裡面的資料Wallet APP這是一個冷錢包的一個就是把錢藏在這裡面的一個詐騙的一個手法那這部分我們檢定署都有專責的一個單位會對這些\n比較這個 請問是哪一個單位 包括刑事局各縣市警察局的刑警大隊或各分局的偵查隊會針對這一些投資的一個這個詐騙的部分會比較做深入的去做蒐證那我們這個部分也都破了非常多 從今年一到五年就破一千五百多團的一個這一些的一個詐團所以我想我們的這個偵破的這個能力都有 這個部分也跟委員報告 那我們\n現在這個檢舉組的這個就是配合法務部的這個懲詐這個成就都比往年都進步了非常多我想這也是我們一個一個宣導以及查集的一個重點\n好最後還是要謝謝署長跟部長我相信大家都非常的辛苦那每年我也要跟署長跟部長報告每年我們都會開一場公聽會那希望收集各位專家所有被害人的一些意見那希望說我大概每年大概年底的時候會辦那到時候再拜託部長署長以及各位我們各單位的長官一起來討論謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.229 --> 00:25.942\n好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早有請劉世芳劉部長好請部長委員早部長早好今天非常感謝不管是內政部金管會NCC速發部各位的長官今天都在現場那今天講的是有關於有關於詐騙我們這個修法的一些內容可是我想民眾更有感的是現在詐騙金額\n\n00:28.243 --> 00:44.093\n每個月不斷上升我們看到很多被詐騙的民眾只要一被詐騙簡直就是夜不能醒就是食不下宴非常的可憐當然看到今天內政部的資訊說在今年度\n\n00:45.214 --> 01:06.836\n的看起來好像詐騙的數量跟金額跟去年8月打詐欺表板的比較起來好像是有稍微下降一下可是大家知道去年8月的時候剛打詐欺表板剛上路的時候那時候的詐騙金額很多那如果我們從這個今年三四五月的金額來看我可以簡單來跟大家報告一下\n\n01:07.659 --> 01:15.363\n今年3月份詐騙數量16000件詐騙金額損失70億今年的4月詐騙數量15961件詐騙金額往上升76億今年5月詐騙的數量1603件詐騙的金額高達87億在大家如果可以上網查一下\n\n01:34.366 --> 01:58.415\n在這個月6月15號到6月21號一週詐騙的金額就高達21億詐騙的數量高達3909件所以我必須今天要跟部長跟我們所有在場的官員大家報告的是說我相信政府單位也看到民眾他的難處看到被詐騙的人的心酸\n\n01:59.195 --> 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