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00:02:59,504\n對很多長輩來說他很難去分辨說這個地方到底是真的是假的那很容易來這個受騙上當那另外還有一些是偽造公眾人物的這個影像作為詐騙的這個方式那進行那個欺騙的投資像國外就那個詐騙集團是利用那個深圍的這個技術模仿那個馬斯克馬斯克外貌來製作這個推薦加密貨幣的這個投資的影片那導致民眾被騙錢\n\n9\n00:03:00,825 --> 00:03:15,796\n我想針對這些新型戰的詐騙方式我想不能只有靠第一線的人員來做這樣防制更重要是我們要跨部會從源頭來切斷那主動攔截下架這些源頭的廣告那另外也要跟民間影響來合作阻斷這個\n\n10\n00:03:17,377 --> 00:03:46,295\n詐騙金流的流向因為他最終還是要領錢嘛所以這塊還是來做做努力啦那我想另外我們在監察院112年這個防制政府防制電信網路詐欺之對策與檢討報告指出行政院雖然已經動員12個部會推動試詐措施112年觸及人數也高達我們3億3千萬人次但居然以量取勝長期高度且重複之宣導有邊際效益\n\n11\n00:03:47,956 --> 00:03:56,700\n地檢之餘這寫監察院夠了就是他講這句話你看最重要是這句長期高度解重複之宣導有邊際效應地檢之餘\n\n12\n00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:28,234\n你一直吹那個量,你都一直吹出來,但是看過了民眾反而他就失去了那個警戒性那我想監察院都說這個宣傳過多的效用會減低所以打詐不能只有靠宣傳那詐騙金就像本席提到的嘛詐騙金最終的目的就是為了要取得金錢嘛所以我們要強化這個源頭的這個金流的管控跟洗錢房子的措施才是重點那\n\n13\n00:04:29,246 --> 00:04:57,990\n我想這邊要請相關單位這部分好好來加強今天我們數位部方也有來現場那這邊本席要具體建議說我們針對我們這個新型的AI智慧型的這個犯罪的形態的崛起我們要嚴禮這個AI打詐的專案小組來防範那也結合民間的一些專業力量我們共同針對這新型態的詐騙進行打擊讓國人能夠真的感受到我們政府在打詐上這有打到痛點那這部分署長是不是能夠回應一下\n\n14\n00:04:58,610 --> 00:05:17,412\n好謝謝委員我想這個整個打造是整個國家是各相關道內是集體去做我們內政部也是其中的一個部分但是我們是擔負維護社會治安的第一線所以各位看到的大概都是先問警察那其他有一些像源頭\n\n15\n00:05:18,453 --> 00:05:38,190\n源頭像這一其實源頭是最重要的就是讓訊息沒有讓民眾得到這些訊息源頭的主調大概就會主調很多的詐騙這個部分我們相關部會在在努力各種策略當中那另外就是剛剛委員所提的就是詐騙是隨著我們打擊的方向他的\n\n16\n00:05:39,431 --> 00:06:02,838\n這個演變也是非常遠比如說剛剛所提的這些AI身為的這些相關像視訊的這些都是比較是做比較是新型的那也是類我們這個打擊的目標那未來我想就是剛剛委員所提的就是在宣導這部分我們為什麼會製作這個打債儀表版有兩個面向第一個面向就是說我們有很多案例\n\n17\n00:06:04,278 --> 00:06:30,164\n我們有很多案例會讓民眾去了解他是不是先在深陷這個案例當中一個是一個案例一個是一個宣導的一個效果那我想我們未來對於這個打詐的這個相關的策略會隨時來做一個變更那我剛剛也跟委員報告就是說從我們去年這個打詐司法通過之後尤其是詐謗條例從8月份事實上從去年8月到12月份\n\n18\n00:06:31,084 --> 00:06:54,046\n他的詐欺的這個每個月的詐欺的件大概在七八百件那金額大概都120億那我們從今年的1月到5月現在大概就是在100億以下最低當然是到這個過年期間的60億到70億但是在4月份跟5月份有微幅的這個上升我們不是說打詐略有成效就\n\n19\n00:06:55,047 --> 00:07:17,000\n作為滿足我們一定是會持續在跟這些炸雞集團一定要更好的方法來做一個打擊對啊謝謝署長署長炸雞集團真的很可惡那些社會人員辛苦一輩子的生意或是他的國產分就這樣給變了那很夭壽所以我們去對打炸新聞我們就絕對支持阿本縣也可以\n\n20\n00:07:20,442 --> 00:07:37,786\n第一線的人員真的很辛苦那處理費也很認真我們這個都可以感受那我想但是我們還是希望能夠聚焦我們一定要讓民眾感受到打仗真的打到痛點大家知道說我們真的有在認真那關於立法院討論相關的這些修法本身也絕對都支持但是這場\n\n21\n00:07:38,866 --> 00:08:04,587\n蘇貞你說對了所以那個我們在打詐的在進化的過程裡面詐騙也一直不斷的在進化他一夜晚招筆在那裡偷錢所以我們在想的就是說未來可能會遇到問題我們要先去議訪那也謝謝所有全國辛苦的警政人員那希望我們來一起加油讓我們的這個政府能更有力的來監督來這個打擊這些犯罪的行為那我們一起來努力那也謝謝署長謝謝謝謝謝偉恩\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n928\t2498\t謝謝主席我們有請我們警政署長好請署長\n10424\t39154\t我們去年7月12號立法院三讀通過這個詐欺犯罪危害防治條例就是讓犯罪這個詐欺這個集團犯險的這個刑者最重可以處12年以下有期徒刑並得科新台幣3億以下的這個罰金那三年以上犯刑法加重詐欺罪或成立這個境外棘訪再加重二分之一的刑者\n40434\t48780\t那關鍵就是為了要消滅這個我們犯罪的誘因嘛也擴大對這個嫌犯不法所得的這個沒收的範圍我們目標是要做什麼目標就是讓想騙的不敢騙那你騙了你不敢開那是我們最主要的目的嘛我們修正法就是說家中的行者\n56404\t66209\t那在經過一年之後我們台灣的這個詐騙案件仍然高居不下我們根據我們警政署這邊的統計我國的詐欺的這個詐欺案的發生數從2016年的23175件逐年攀升到了2024年發生案件高達118535件\n77375\t101042\t我們今年2025到4月份現在已經達到64,990件幾乎已經是我們去年的一半了今年到4月就已經達到去年一半了那關於今年5月詐騙的金額已經達到87億了所以說有很多的國人會認為說我們政府一直在打仗可是越打越詐那實際上本縣絕對相信我們\n102878\t131557\t以前已經非常辛苦,也很積極的在做打詐像本期我們在地方跑行程的時候常常看到我們辛苦的遠景第一線就是所有活動他都會出來宣導,一直宣導一直宣導但是我們看那個新聞媒體,詐騙的新聞還是很多那這幾天還有一個新聞傳出來說是民眾把現金換成那個六公斤的黃金給詐騙集團,就現金換銀金所以他的手法一直在變,一直在更新\n133118\t145212\t所以我們特別現在這幾年還有一個就是科技詐騙也是逐漸增加我講我最近那個AI技術的整個興盛之後詐騙AI詐騙更是彷彿盛訪那詐騙可能會透過這個複製聲音的模式那打給他的親友來騙錢那第一時間他就比較多分辨啦所以這個\n153301\t179504\t對很多長輩來說他很難去分辨說這個地方到底是真的是假的那很容易來這個受騙上當那另外還有一些是偽造公眾人物的這個影像作為詐騙的這個方式那進行那個欺騙的投資像國外就那個詐騙集團是利用那個深圍的這個技術模仿那個馬斯克馬斯克外貌來製作這個推薦加密貨幣的這個投資的影片那導致民眾被騙錢\n180825\t195796\t我想針對這些新型戰的詐騙方式我想不能只有靠第一線的人員來做這樣防制更重要是我們要跨部會從源頭來切斷那主動攔截下架這些源頭的廣告那另外也要跟民間影響來合作阻斷這個\n197377\t226295\t詐騙金流的流向因為他最終還是要領錢嘛所以這塊還是來做做努力啦那我想另外我們在監察院112年這個防制政府防制電信網路詐欺之對策與檢討報告指出行政院雖然已經動員12個部會推動試詐措施112年觸及人數也高達我們3億3千萬人次但居然以量取勝長期高度且重複之宣導有邊際效益\n227956\t236700\t地檢之餘這寫監察院夠了就是他講這句話你看最重要是這句長期高度解重複之宣導有邊際效應地檢之餘\n240000\t268234\t你一直吹那個量,你都一直吹出來,但是看過了民眾反而他就失去了那個警戒性那我想監察院都說這個宣傳過多的效用會減低所以打詐不能只有靠宣傳那詐騙金就像本席提到的嘛詐騙金最終的目的就是為了要取得金錢嘛所以我們要強化這個源頭的這個金流的管控跟洗錢房子的措施才是重點那\n269246\t297990\t我想這邊要請相關單位這部分好好來加強今天我們數位部方也有來現場那這邊本席要具體建議說我們針對我們這個新型的AI智慧型的這個犯罪的形態的崛起我們要嚴禮這個AI打詐的專案小組來防範那也結合民間的一些專業力量我們共同針對這新型態的詐騙進行打擊讓國人能夠真的感受到我們政府在打詐上這有打到痛點那這部分署長是不是能夠回應一下\n298610\t317412\t好謝謝委員我想這個整個打造是整個國家是各相關道內是集體去做我們內政部也是其中的一個部分但是我們是擔負維護社會治安的第一線所以各位看到的大概都是先問警察那其他有一些像源頭\n318453\t338190\t源頭像這一其實源頭是最重要的就是讓訊息沒有讓民眾得到這些訊息源頭的主調大概就會主調很多的詐騙這個部分我們相關部會在在努力各種策略當中那另外就是剛剛委員所提的就是詐騙是隨著我們打擊的方向他的\n339431\t362838\t這個演變也是非常遠 比如說剛剛所提的這些AI身為的這些相關像視訊的這些都是比較是做比較是新型的那也是類我們這個打擊的目標那未來我想就是剛剛委員所提的就是在宣導這部分我們為什麼會製作這個打債儀表版有兩個面向 第一個面向就是說我們有很多案例\n364278\t390164\t我們有很多案例會讓民眾去了解他是不是先在深陷這個案例當中一個是一個案例一個是一個宣導的一個效果那我想我們未來對於這個打詐的這個相關的策略會隨時來做一個變更那我剛剛也跟委員報告就是說從我們去年這個打詐司法通過之後尤其是詐謗條例從8月份事實上從去年8月到12月份\n391084\t414046\t他的詐欺的這個每個月的詐欺的件大概在七八百件那金額大概都120億那我們從今年的1月到5月現在大概就是在100億以下最低當然是到這個過年期間的60億到70億但是在4月份跟5月份有微幅的這個上升我們不是說打詐略有成效就\n415047\t437000\t作為滿足我們一定是會持續在跟這些炸雞集團一定要更好的方法來做一個打擊對啊 謝謝署長署長 炸雞集團真的很可惡那些社會人員辛苦一輩子的生意或是他的國產分就這樣給變了 那很夭壽所以我們去對打炸新聞我們就絕對支持阿本縣也可以\n440442\t457786\t第一線的人員真的很辛苦那處理費也很認真我們這個都可以感受那我想但是我們還是希望能夠聚焦我們一定要讓民眾感受到打仗真的打到痛點大家知道說我們真的有在認真那關於立法院討論相關的這些修法本身也絕對都支持但是這場\n458866\t484587\t蘇貞你說對了所以那個我們在打詐的在進化的過程裡面詐騙也一直不斷的在進化他一夜晚招筆在那裡偷錢所以我們在想的就是說未來可能會遇到問題我們要先去議訪那也謝謝所有全國辛苦的警政人員那希望我們來一起加油讓我們的這個政府能更有力的來監督來這個打擊這些犯罪的行為那我們一起來努力那也謝謝署長 謝謝謝謝 謝偉恩\n","txt":"謝謝主席我們有請我們警政署長好請署長\n我們去年7月12號立法院三讀通過這個詐欺犯罪危害防治條例就是讓犯罪這個詐欺這個集團犯險的這個刑者最重可以處12年以下有期徒刑並得科新台幣3億以下的這個罰金那三年以上犯刑法加重詐欺罪或成立這個境外棘訪再加重二分之一的刑者\n那關鍵就是為了要消滅這個我們犯罪的誘因嘛也擴大對這個嫌犯不法所得的這個沒收的範圍我們目標是要做什麼目標就是讓想騙的不敢騙那你騙了你不敢開那是我們最主要的目的嘛我們修正法就是說家中的行者\n那在經過一年之後我們台灣的這個詐騙案件仍然高居不下我們根據我們警政署這邊的統計我國的詐欺的這個詐欺案的發生數從2016年的23175件逐年攀升到了2024年發生案件高達118535件\n我們今年2025到4月份現在已經達到64,990件幾乎已經是我們去年的一半了今年到4月就已經達到去年一半了那關於今年5月詐騙的金額已經達到87億了所以說有很多的國人會認為說我們政府一直在打仗可是越打越詐那實際上本縣絕對相信我們\n以前已經非常辛苦,也很積極的在做打詐像本期我們在地方跑行程的時候常常看到我們辛苦的遠景第一線就是所有活動他都會出來宣導,一直宣導一直宣導但是我們看那個新聞媒體,詐騙的新聞還是很多那這幾天還有一個新聞傳出來說是民眾把現金換成那個六公斤的黃金給詐騙集團,就現金換銀金所以他的手法一直在變,一直在更新\n所以我們特別現在這幾年還有一個就是科技詐騙也是逐漸增加我講我最近那個AI技術的整個興盛之後詐騙AI詐騙更是彷彿盛訪那詐騙可能會透過這個複製聲音的模式那打給他的親友來騙錢那第一時間他就比較多分辨啦所以這個\n對很多長輩來說他很難去分辨說這個地方到底是真的是假的那很容易來這個受騙上當那另外還有一些是偽造公眾人物的這個影像作為詐騙的這個方式那進行那個欺騙的投資像國外就那個詐騙集團是利用那個深圍的這個技術模仿那個馬斯克馬斯克外貌來製作這個推薦加密貨幣的這個投資的影片那導致民眾被騙錢\n我想針對這些新型戰的詐騙方式我想不能只有靠第一線的人員來做這樣防制更重要是我們要跨部會從源頭來切斷那主動攔截下架這些源頭的廣告那另外也要跟民間影響來合作阻斷這個\n詐騙金流的流向因為他最終還是要領錢嘛所以這塊還是來做做努力啦那我想另外我們在監察院112年這個防制政府防制電信網路詐欺之對策與檢討報告指出行政院雖然已經動員12個部會推動試詐措施112年觸及人數也高達我們3億3千萬人次但居然以量取勝長期高度且重複之宣導有邊際效益\n地檢之餘這寫監察院夠了就是他講這句話你看最重要是這句長期高度解重複之宣導有邊際效應地檢之餘\n你一直吹那個量,你都一直吹出來,但是看過了民眾反而他就失去了那個警戒性那我想監察院都說這個宣傳過多的效用會減低所以打詐不能只有靠宣傳那詐騙金就像本席提到的嘛詐騙金最終的目的就是為了要取得金錢嘛所以我們要強化這個源頭的這個金流的管控跟洗錢房子的措施才是重點那\n我想這邊要請相關單位這部分好好來加強今天我們數位部方也有來現場那這邊本席要具體建議說我們針對我們這個新型的AI智慧型的這個犯罪的形態的崛起我們要嚴禮這個AI打詐的專案小組來防範那也結合民間的一些專業力量我們共同針對這新型態的詐騙進行打擊讓國人能夠真的感受到我們政府在打詐上這有打到痛點那這部分署長是不是能夠回應一下\n好謝謝委員我想這個整個打造是整個國家是各相關道內是集體去做我們內政部也是其中的一個部分但是我們是擔負維護社會治安的第一線所以各位看到的大概都是先問警察那其他有一些像源頭\n源頭像這一其實源頭是最重要的就是讓訊息沒有讓民眾得到這些訊息源頭的主調大概就會主調很多的詐騙這個部分我們相關部會在在努力各種策略當中那另外就是剛剛委員所提的就是詐騙是隨著我們打擊的方向他的\n這個演變也是非常遠 比如說剛剛所提的這些AI身為的這些相關像視訊的這些都是比較是做比較是新型的那也是類我們這個打擊的目標那未來我想就是剛剛委員所提的就是在宣導這部分我們為什麼會製作這個打債儀表版有兩個面向 第一個面向就是說我們有很多案例\n我們有很多案例會讓民眾去了解他是不是先在深陷這個案例當中一個是一個案例一個是一個宣導的一個效果那我想我們未來對於這個打詐的這個相關的策略會隨時來做一個變更那我剛剛也跟委員報告就是說從我們去年這個打詐司法通過之後尤其是詐謗條例從8月份事實上從去年8月到12月份\n他的詐欺的這個每個月的詐欺的件大概在七八百件那金額大概都120億那我們從今年的1月到5月現在大概就是在100億以下最低當然是到這個過年期間的60億到70億但是在4月份跟5月份有微幅的這個上升我們不是說打詐略有成效就\n作為滿足我們一定是會持續在跟這些炸雞集團一定要更好的方法來做一個打擊對啊 謝謝署長署長 炸雞集團真的很可惡那些社會人員辛苦一輩子的生意或是他的國產分就這樣給變了 那很夭壽所以我們去對打炸新聞我們就絕對支持阿本縣也可以\n第一線的人員真的很辛苦那處理費也很認真我們這個都可以感受那我想但是我們還是希望能夠聚焦我們一定要讓民眾感受到打仗真的打到痛點大家知道說我們真的有在認真那關於立法院討論相關的這些修法本身也絕對都支持但是這場\n蘇貞你說對了所以那個我們在打詐的在進化的過程裡面詐騙也一直不斷的在進化他一夜晚招筆在那裡偷錢所以我們在想的就是說未來可能會遇到問題我們要先去議訪那也謝謝所有全國辛苦的警政人員那希望我們來一起加油讓我們的這個政府能更有力的來監督來這個打擊這些犯罪的行為那我們一起來努力那也謝謝署長 謝謝謝謝 謝偉恩\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.928 --> 00:02.498\n謝謝主席我們有請我們警政署長好請署長\n\n00:10.424 --> 00:39.154\n我們去年7月12號立法院三讀通過這個詐欺犯罪危害防治條例就是讓犯罪這個詐欺這個集團犯險的這個刑者最重可以處12年以下有期徒刑並得科新台幣3億以下的這個罰金那三年以上犯刑法加重詐欺罪或成立這個境外棘訪再加重二分之一的刑者\n\n00:40.434 --> 00:48.780\n那關鍵就是為了要消滅這個我們犯罪的誘因嘛也擴大對這個嫌犯不法所得的這個沒收的範圍我們目標是要做什麼目標就是讓想騙的不敢騙那你騙了你不敢開那是我們最主要的目的嘛我們修正法就是說家中的行者\n\n00:56.404 --> 01:06.209\n那在經過一年之後我們台灣的這個詐騙案件仍然高居不下我們根據我們警政署這邊的統計我國的詐欺的這個詐欺案的發生數從2016年的23175件逐年攀升到了2024年發生案件高達118535件\n\n01:17.375 --> 01:41.042\n我們今年2025到4月份現在已經達到64,990件幾乎已經是我們去年的一半了今年到4月就已經達到去年一半了那關於今年5月詐騙的金額已經達到87億了所以說有很多的國人會認為說我們政府一直在打仗可是越打越詐那實際上本縣絕對相信我們\n\n01:42.878 --> 02:11.557\n以前已經非常辛苦,也很積極的在做打詐像本期我們在地方跑行程的時候常常看到我們辛苦的遠景第一線就是所有活動他都會出來宣導,一直宣導一直宣導但是我們看那個新聞媒體,詐騙的新聞還是很多那這幾天還有一個新聞傳出來說是民眾把現金換成那個六公斤的黃金給詐騙集團,就現金換銀金所以他的手法一直在變,一直在更新\n\n02:13.118 --> 02:25.212\n所以我們特別現在這幾年還有一個就是科技詐騙也是逐漸增加我講我最近那個AI技術的整個興盛之後詐騙AI詐騙更是彷彿盛訪那詐騙可能會透過這個複製聲音的模式那打給他的親友來騙錢那第一時間他就比較多分辨啦所以這個\n\n02:33.301 --> 02:59.504\n對很多長輩來說他很難去分辨說這個地方到底是真的是假的那很容易來這個受騙上當那另外還有一些是偽造公眾人物的這個影像作為詐騙的這個方式那進行那個欺騙的投資像國外就那個詐騙集團是利用那個深圍的這個技術模仿那個馬斯克馬斯克外貌來製作這個推薦加密貨幣的這個投資的影片那導致民眾被騙錢\n\n03:00.825 --> 03:15.796\n我想針對這些新型戰的詐騙方式我想不能只有靠第一線的人員來做這樣防制更重要是我們要跨部會從源頭來切斷那主動攔截下架這些源頭的廣告那另外也要跟民間影響來合作阻斷這個\n\n03:17.377 --> 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