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00:00:42,436\n副總裁好我們看到報導在6月17號那央行為了壓制台幣的升值受益匯銀將出口商的單日拋匯的這個額度從2000萬美元砍到1000萬美元那由銀行來柔性的轉達那引發企業的不滿副總裁你知道這個事情嗎\n\n3\n00:00:47,162 --> 00:01:07,004\n那個報告委員因為我們在我們在從外匯管理的角度我們對於那個在升值或貶值幅度很大的時候我們看到產商有一些不合就是跟他們過去行為不一樣的時候我們自然會要求銀行或者是我們會由銀行去跟產商問一下他的原因是怎樣\n\n4\n00:01:08,085 --> 00:01:25,094\n這個就是問一下的柔性轉達那麼引發了企業的不滿表示被迫以時間來換取空間來忍受升值的一個損失那我們看到我們的NDF報價它是持續在下跌\n\n5\n00:01:27,275 --> 00:01:42,790\n那表示市場對於台幣的升值呢它的預期仍是非常的強烈那顯見我們目前的政策是只有治標沒有治本同時我們看到外資透過ETF雙向槓桿的操作對鎖呢那規避了資金停留的這個門檻\n\n6\n00:01:49,736 --> 00:02:10,636\n但是我們沒有看到央行跟金管會協調控管導致整個資金短進短出那套利無阻導致我們出口商他受限未知的規避無奈讓控會政策是不是淪為形式化所以本席在這邊首先要請教副總裁\n\n7\n00:02:12,998 --> 00:02:34,789\n除了對出口商你來獻會之外我們的央行是否你有跟金管會來討論來合作防堵外資利用整個ETF的正惡反抑呢來規避你所謂行政措施的七日停留門檻的套利呢請做說明那個報告委員因為\n\n8\n00:02:38,561 --> 00:03:00,424\nETF也是最近這幾年非常興盛的一個其實我們在109年我們就跟金管會達成共識就是說外資來買台灣的那個逆向的反ETF的這種操作的時候我們要求我們和金管會已經有共識就是說他那個外資投入\n\n9\n00:03:01,545 --> 00:03:24,642\n持有的那個反向的ETF占ETF的發行量它有一個不得超過百分之三十的限制所以其實我們已經跟金管會有在有建立這樣百分之三十的限制當然也誠如剛剛央行你所說的從109年開始到現在每一個環節每一個情境可以說是訊息萬變\n\n10\n00:03:26,443 --> 00:03:31,825\n那我們如果還是維持原來然後出口上的意見已經強烈的表達不滿甚至還有人說國家的整個資金的控管政策只有對內強悍只有對內強硬對外是放任\n\n11\n00:03:44,973 --> 00:04:09,709\n我想委員可能誤解了因為其實我們在對外資的監控我們是每天都在監控外資的證券投資的資料所以即使是今年以來我們也看到有一些外資他持續利用剛才委員提到這樣管道我們也馬上查到以後我們就要求他趕快把錢匯出去所以其實我們並沒有對外公開這樣子的訊息因為我們透過我們監視系統\n\n12\n00:04:14,192 --> 00:04:17,553\n隨時在監控所以本席也就將我們出口商的這些的意見提供給央行那央行你從109年到現在我們看到目前的一個狀態那央行是不是應該要跟我們的金管會好好的再去嚴明我們精進的方案\n\n13\n00:04:38,780 --> 00:04:43,642\n也協助我們的廠商才不會讓人家覺得對外是放任的對內是控管的這個經濟方案請去研議隨時應對好不好對是是謝謝這個是非常的迫切需要的嘛對不對對好趕快加油接下來本校請教經濟部\n\n14\n00:05:05,302 --> 00:05:26,629\n部長本期要跟您討論的也就是說我們針對AI的這個部分本期在昨天前天也跟您討論甚至連交通的小黃我都謝謝你願意來支援運用我們中小企業的這個資源讓我們的車行可以好好的去提升\n\n15\n00:05:27,569 --> 00:05:33,694\n那所以我們看到也就是說6月17號一樣的新聞報導你說經濟部要啟動了這個AI新秀的計畫那針對於應屆畢業青年提供一年期的全額補助的AI應用訓練跟企業的實習非常好我們要強調的是學的會\n\n16\n00:05:47,106 --> 00:06:02,136\n用得上留得住期望能夠打造AI級戰力協助百工百業來落實AI的運用推動整個智慧化的一個轉型這個非常好那這次本席看到目前你們的計畫跟四個學校來做計畫是嗎\n\n17\n00:06:06,537 --> 00:06:19,921\n目前第一個部分這個是在我看到你的數字是台北大學台北科技大學虎科大跟成功大學這四個學校目前是以這個四個大學為\n\n18\n00:06:23,820 --> 00:06:28,422\n第一波啦第一波還好還好還好部長你說第一波因為我們中部地區是整個烏拉烏拉什麼時候烏呢因為中部地區是所有的這個產業的聚落沒有理由不把我們列在第一波嘛\n\n19\n00:06:44,751 --> 00:07:01,599\n對不對要有學校他有要啊怎麼會這麼說呢對不對我們現在是這樣就是他學校要有那個設施然後才有辦法來教學因為我們不是只有教學我們必須要席座\n\n20\n00:07:02,439 --> 00:07:09,921\n席座非常的重要中部地區的席座可以說是整個深坡都在中部地區啊你也內行的嘛對不對所以你跟台北的跟高雄的獨立我們台中當然我給你提出強烈的抗議嘛好\n\n21\n00:07:18,064 --> 00:07:26,390\n你這麼說也就是我們中部地區也必須要有請你們相關單位來聯繫很快的來聯繫嘛對不對中部地區我們現在在談的包括大學大學包括環球科大包括中部的這個其他的這個私立的這個科技大學我們都有在談啦但是我們目前有在談所以有在這個這個有一些塑膠中心啊車輛中心啊這些\n\n22\n00:07:46,064 --> 00:07:51,589\n技術中心我們都在進行對啊這都在我們中部中區中部地區所以這重要所以沒有什麼這麼樣的重大我全力給你支持結果沒有我們中部地區有科研區有最重要的產業聚落都在這裡烹飪手工機器工具機器機械零組件全部都在這裡塑膠也全部都在這裡對不對現在的業界的人\n\n23\n00:08:13,067 --> 00:08:20,615\n業界人的提升啊就是靠這一些法人經過非常重要對學校的那個要一年以後才能夠非常重要所以一定要列入中部地區好好去談判好不好一定有一定喔這個一定要喔一定要好不好我看到怎麼只有北部只有高雄沒有我們中部\n\n24\n00:08:33,726 --> 00:08:46,431\n因為中部地區現在在整個席座以及生產中心研發中心都是很重要的聚落對不對科技大學所有的大專業項因為都是很重要啊所以我以歡喜聽到你說這是第一波啦你們也在研談喔我給你加油跟鼓勵中部地區\n\n25\n00:08:56,395 --> 00:09:12,629\n絕對不能落膽啦這個是非常重要而且最後我可以跟你說最後我們在這個這個訓練跟這個席座的方面我們絕對有信心中部地區一定會大成功這個是非常台灣產業非常重要的關鍵對不對那你要趕快去幫我聯繫去幫我做好對不對好\n\n26\n00:09:18,333 --> 00:09:43,655\n謝謝支持你就是去落實所以本席要請教你的這個培訓規模跟制度設計是不是有對症下藥本席認為這個非常的重要既然我們已經有提出這樣子的一個計畫那當然我們必須你的培訓規模跟你的制度設計這個是非常非常的重要那所以本席要請教\n\n27\n00:09:44,676 --> 00:09:45,437\n好報告委員我們大概一年\n\n28\n00:10:09,199 --> 00:10:27,502\n就這一部分這些大學畢業的學生我們大概預計一年希望能夠培養到兩萬人一年要兩萬人兩萬到兩萬五千人這要根據我們的師資還有我們訓練的地方的設置我不是只讓他二分你的回答第一個\n\n29\n00:10:28,083 --> 00:10:52,876\n我們一起預計要培養我們畢業應屆畢業生兩萬人這是一個答案非常好訓練後兩年實際留任率你們的評估呢八成八成的評估率轉化企業AI應用的成效你們怎麼樣設置你的具體評估機制因為我們的席座的場域就是模擬實際在運作的這個場域\n\n30\n00:10:55,777 --> 00:11:10,661\n所以他沒有這個銜接的落差就等於是無縫接軌以習作就直接在場裡頭他要訓練八個月訓練八個月四個月都要進入實際的場域去實作學校訓練八個月接下來四個月學習製造的到工廠學習服務業到服務業的場域\n\n31\n00:11:24,232 --> 00:11:43,984\n所以本席就具體建議本席非常的支持這樣的方案因為你本來就是要協助我們的產業界產業界各自單打獨鬥不可能本席在你上任的時候我就說你來自企業你了解企業要怎麼做企業的需求所以提出這個方案本席\n\n32\n00:11:45,064 --> 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機械零組件全部都在這裡塑膠也全部都在這裡對不對現在的業界的人\n493067\t500615\t業界人的提升啊就是靠這一些法人經過非常重要對學校的那個要一年以後才能夠非常重要所以一定要列入中部地區好好去談判好不好一定有一定喔這個一定要喔一定要好不好我看到怎麼只有北部只有高雄沒有我們中部\n513726\t526431\t因為中部地區現在在整個席座以及生產中心研發中心都是很重要的聚落對不對科技大學所有的大專業項因為都是很重要啊所以我以歡喜聽到你說這是第一波啦你們也在研談喔我給你加油跟鼓勵中部地區\n536395\t552629\t絕對不能落膽啦這個是非常重要而且最後我可以跟你說最後我們在這個這個訓練跟這個席座的方面我們絕對有信心中部地區一定會大成功這個是非常台灣產業非常重要的關鍵對不對那你要趕快去幫我聯繫去幫我做好對不對好\n558333\t583655\t謝謝支持你就是去落實所以本席要請教你的這個培訓規模跟制度設計是不是有對症下藥本席認為這個非常的重要既然我們已經有提出這樣子的一個計畫那當然我們必須你的培訓規模跟你的制度設計這個是非常非常的重要那所以本席要請教\n584676\t585437\t好 報告委員 我們大概一年\n609199\t627502\t就這一部分這些大學畢業的學生我們大概預計一年希望能夠培養到兩萬人一年要兩萬人兩萬到兩萬五千人這要根據我們的師資還有我們訓練的地方的設置我不是只讓他二分你的回答第一個\n628083\t652876\t我們一起預計要培養我們畢業應屆畢業生兩萬人這是一個答案非常好訓練後兩年實際留任率你們的評估呢八成八成的評估率轉化企業AI應用的成效你們怎麼樣設置你的具體評估機制因為我們的席座的場域就是模擬實際在運作的這個場域\n655777\t670661\t所以他沒有這個銜接的落差就等於是無縫接軌以習作就直接在場裡頭他要訓練八個月訓練八個月四個月都要進入實際的場域去實作學校訓練八個月接下來四個月學習製造的到工廠學習服務業到服務業的場域\n684232\t703984\t所以本席就具體建議本席非常的支持這樣的方案因為你本來就是要協助我們的產業界產業界各自單打獨鬥不可能本席在你上任的時候我就說你來自企業你了解企業要怎麼做企業的需求所以提出這個方案本席\n705064\t731083\t這個全力支持 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謝謝\n","txt":"委員好\n副總裁好我們看到報導在6月17號那央行為了壓制台幣的升值受益匯銀將出口商的單日拋匯的這個額度從2000萬美元砍到1000萬美元那由銀行來柔性的轉達那引發企業的不滿副總裁你知道這個事情嗎\n那個報告委員因為我們在我們在從外匯管理的角度我們對於那個在升值或貶值幅度很大的時候我們看到產商有一些不合就是跟他們過去行為不一樣的時候我們自然會要求銀行或者是我們會由銀行去跟產商問一下他的原因是怎樣\n這個就是問一下的柔性轉達那麼引發了企業的不滿表示被迫以時間來換取空間來忍受升值的一個損失那我們看到我們的NDF報價它是持續在下跌\n那表示市場對於台幣的升值呢它的預期仍是非常的強烈那顯見我們目前的政策是只有治標沒有治本同時我們看到外資透過ETF雙向槓桿的操作對鎖呢那規避了資金停留的這個門檻\n但是我們沒有看到央行跟金管會協調控管導致整個資金短進短出那套利無阻導致我們出口商他受限未知的規避無奈讓控會政策是不是淪為形式化所以本席在這邊首先要請教副總裁\n除了對出口商你來獻會之外我們的央行是否你有跟金管會來討論來合作防堵外資利用整個ETF的正惡反抑呢來規避你所謂行政措施的七日停留門檻的套利呢請做說明那個報告委員因為\nETF也是最近這幾年非常興盛的一個其實我們在109年我們就跟金管會達成共識就是說外資來買台灣的那個逆向的反ETF的這種操作的時候我們要求我們和金管會已經有共識就是說他那個外資投入\n持有的那個反向的ETF占ETF的發行量它有一個不得超過百分之三十的限制所以其實我們已經跟金管會有在有建立這樣百分之三十的限制當然也誠如剛剛央行你所說的從109年開始到現在每一個環節每一個情境可以說是訊息萬變\n那我們如果還是維持原來然後出口上的意見已經強烈的表達不滿甚至還有人說國家的整個資金的控管政策只有對內強悍只有對內強硬對外是放任\n我想委員可能誤解了因為其實我們在對外資的監控我們是每天都在監控外資的證券投資的資料所以即使是今年以來我們也看到有一些外資他持續利用剛才委員提到這樣管道我們也馬上查到以後我們就要求他趕快把錢匯出去所以其實我們並沒有對外公開這樣子的訊息因為我們透過我們監視系統\n隨時在監控所以本席也就將我們出口商的這些的意見提供給央行那央行你從109年到現在我們看到目前的一個狀態那央行是不是應該要跟我們的金管會好好的再去嚴明我們精進的方案\n也協助我們的廠商才不會讓人家覺得對外是放任的對內是控管的這個經濟方案請去研議隨時應對好不好對是是謝謝這個是非常的迫切需要的嘛對不對對好趕快加油接下來本校請教經濟部\n部長 本期要跟您討論的也就是說我們針對AI的這個部分 本期在昨天 前天也跟您討論甚至連交通的小黃我都謝謝你願意來支援運用我們中小企業的這個資源讓我們的車行可以好好的去提升\n那所以我們看到也就是說6月17號一樣的新聞報導你說經濟部要啟動了這個AI新秀的計畫那針對於應屆畢業青年提供一年期的全額補助的AI應用訓練跟企業的實習非常好我們要強調的是學的會\n用得上留得住期望能夠打造AI級戰力協助百工百業來落實AI的運用推動整個智慧化的一個轉型這個非常好那這次本席看到目前你們的計畫跟四個學校來做計畫是嗎\n目前第一個部分這個是在我看到你的數字是台北大學台北科技大學虎科大跟成功大學這四個學校目前是以這個四個大學為\n第一波啦 第一波還好還好還好部長你說第一波因為我們中部地區是整個烏拉烏拉什麼時候烏呢因為中部地區是所有的這個產業的聚落沒有理由不把我們列在第一波嘛\n對不對要有學校他有要啊怎麼會這麼說呢對不對我們現在是這樣就是他學校要有那個設施然後才有辦法來教學因為我們不是只有教學我們必須要席座\n席座非常的重要 中部地區的席座可以說是整個深坡都在中部地區啊你也內行的嘛 對不對所以你跟台北的跟高雄的獨立我們台中當然我給你提出強烈的抗議嘛好\n你這麼說也就是我們中部地區也必須要有請你們相關單位來聯繫很快的來聯繫嘛對不對中部地區我們現在在談的包括大學大學包括環球科大包括中部的這個其他的這個私立的這個科技大學我們都有在談啦但是我們目前有在談所以有在這個這個有一些塑膠中心啊車輛中心啊這些\n技術中心我們都在進行對啊這都在我們中部中區中部地區所以這重要所以沒有什麼這麼樣的重大我全力給你支持結果沒有我們中部地區有科研區有最重要的產業聚落都在這裡烹飪手工機器 工具機器 機械零組件全部都在這裡塑膠也全部都在這裡對不對現在的業界的人\n業界人的提升啊就是靠這一些法人經過非常重要對學校的那個要一年以後才能夠非常重要所以一定要列入中部地區好好去談判好不好一定有一定喔這個一定要喔一定要好不好我看到怎麼只有北部只有高雄沒有我們中部\n因為中部地區現在在整個席座以及生產中心研發中心都是很重要的聚落對不對科技大學所有的大專業項因為都是很重要啊所以我以歡喜聽到你說這是第一波啦你們也在研談喔我給你加油跟鼓勵中部地區\n絕對不能落膽啦這個是非常重要而且最後我可以跟你說最後我們在這個這個訓練跟這個席座的方面我們絕對有信心中部地區一定會大成功這個是非常台灣產業非常重要的關鍵對不對那你要趕快去幫我聯繫去幫我做好對不對好\n謝謝支持你就是去落實所以本席要請教你的這個培訓規模跟制度設計是不是有對症下藥本席認為這個非常的重要既然我們已經有提出這樣子的一個計畫那當然我們必須你的培訓規模跟你的制度設計這個是非常非常的重要那所以本席要請教\n好 報告委員 我們大概一年\n就這一部分這些大學畢業的學生我們大概預計一年希望能夠培養到兩萬人一年要兩萬人兩萬到兩萬五千人這要根據我們的師資還有我們訓練的地方的設置我不是只讓他二分你的回答第一個\n我們一起預計要培養我們畢業應屆畢業生兩萬人這是一個答案非常好訓練後兩年實際留任率你們的評估呢八成八成的評估率轉化企業AI應用的成效你們怎麼樣設置你的具體評估機制因為我們的席座的場域就是模擬實際在運作的這個場域\n所以他沒有這個銜接的落差就等於是無縫接軌以習作就直接在場裡頭他要訓練八個月訓練八個月四個月都要進入實際的場域去實作學校訓練八個月接下來四個月學習製造的到工廠學習服務業到服務業的場域\n所以本席就具體建議本席非常的支持這樣的方案因為你本來就是要協助我們的產業界產業界各自單打獨鬥不可能本席在你上任的時候我就說你來自企業你了解企業要怎麼做企業的需求所以提出這個方案本席\n這個全力支持 原則上一起我們以兩萬人那麼希望留職留任率在企業裡頭是八成我們希望可以達到這樣所以你們的具體評估機制必須要去嚴明好你也把書面資料一份給本席但是最重要的也就是我們中部地區我們中部地區的學校跟席座的廠家跟我們的研發中心生產力中心金屬生產全部都非常的\n一定好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.232 --> 00:04.492\n委員好\n\n00:18.087 --> 00:42.436\n副總裁好我們看到報導在6月17號那央行為了壓制台幣的升值受益匯銀將出口商的單日拋匯的這個額度從2000萬美元砍到1000萬美元那由銀行來柔性的轉達那引發企業的不滿副總裁你知道這個事情嗎\n\n00:47.162 --> 01:07.004\n那個報告委員因為我們在我們在從外匯管理的角度我們對於那個在升值或貶值幅度很大的時候我們看到產商有一些不合就是跟他們過去行為不一樣的時候我們自然會要求銀行或者是我們會由銀行去跟產商問一下他的原因是怎樣\n\n01:08.085 --> 01:25.094\n這個就是問一下的柔性轉達那麼引發了企業的不滿表示被迫以時間來換取空間來忍受升值的一個損失那我們看到我們的NDF報價它是持續在下跌\n\n01:27.275 --> 01:42.790\n那表示市場對於台幣的升值呢它的預期仍是非常的強烈那顯見我們目前的政策是只有治標沒有治本同時我們看到外資透過ETF雙向槓桿的操作對鎖呢那規避了資金停留的這個門檻\n\n01:49.736 --> 02:10.636\n但是我們沒有看到央行跟金管會協調控管導致整個資金短進短出那套利無阻導致我們出口商他受限未知的規避無奈讓控會政策是不是淪為形式化所以本席在這邊首先要請教副總裁\n\n02:12.998 --> 02:34.789\n除了對出口商你來獻會之外我們的央行是否你有跟金管會來討論來合作防堵外資利用整個ETF的正惡反抑呢來規避你所謂行政措施的七日停留門檻的套利呢請做說明那個報告委員因為\n\n02:38.561 --> 03:00.424\nETF也是最近這幾年非常興盛的一個其實我們在109年我們就跟金管會達成共識就是說外資來買台灣的那個逆向的反ETF的這種操作的時候我們要求我們和金管會已經有共識就是說他那個外資投入\n\n03:01.545 --> 03:24.642\n持有的那個反向的ETF占ETF的發行量它有一個不得超過百分之三十的限制所以其實我們已經跟金管會有在有建立這樣百分之三十的限制當然也誠如剛剛央行你所說的從109年開始到現在每一個環節每一個情境可以說是訊息萬變\n\n03:26.443 --> 03:31.825\n那我們如果還是維持原來然後出口上的意見已經強烈的表達不滿甚至還有人說國家的整個資金的控管政策只有對內強悍只有對內強硬對外是放任\n\n03:44.973 --> 04:09.709\n我想委員可能誤解了因為其實我們在對外資的監控我們是每天都在監控外資的證券投資的資料所以即使是今年以來我們也看到有一些外資他持續利用剛才委員提到這樣管道我們也馬上查到以後我們就要求他趕快把錢匯出去所以其實我們並沒有對外公開這樣子的訊息因為我們透過我們監視系統\n\n04:14.192 --> 04:17.553\n隨時在監控所以本席也就將我們出口商的這些的意見提供給央行那央行你從109年到現在我們看到目前的一個狀態那央行是不是應該要跟我們的金管會好好的再去嚴明我們精進的方案\n\n04:38.780 --> 04:43.642\n也協助我們的廠商才不會讓人家覺得對外是放任的對內是控管的這個經濟方案請去研議隨時應對好不好對是是謝謝這個是非常的迫切需要的嘛對不對對好趕快加油接下來本校請教經濟部\n\n05:05.302 --> 05:26.629\n部長本期要跟您討論的也就是說我們針對AI的這個部分本期在昨天前天也跟您討論甚至連交通的小黃我都謝謝你願意來支援運用我們中小企業的這個資源讓我們的車行可以好好的去提升\n\n05:27.569 --> 05:33.694\n那所以我們看到也就是說6月17號一樣的新聞報導你說經濟部要啟動了這個AI新秀的計畫那針對於應屆畢業青年提供一年期的全額補助的AI應用訓練跟企業的實習非常好我們要強調的是學的會\n\n05:47.106 --> 06:02.136\n用得上留得住期望能夠打造AI級戰力協助百工百業來落實AI的運用推動整個智慧化的一個轉型這個非常好那這次本席看到目前你們的計畫跟四個學校來做計畫是嗎\n\n06:06.537 --> 06:19.921\n目前第一個部分這個是在我看到你的數字是台北大學台北科技大學虎科大跟成功大學這四個學校目前是以這個四個大學為\n\n06:23.820 --> 06:28.422\n第一波啦第一波還好還好還好部長你說第一波因為我們中部地區是整個烏拉烏拉什麼時候烏呢因為中部地區是所有的這個產業的聚落沒有理由不把我們列在第一波嘛\n\n06:44.751 --> 07:01.599\n對不對要有學校他有要啊怎麼會這麼說呢對不對我們現在是這樣就是他學校要有那個設施然後才有辦法來教學因為我們不是只有教學我們必須要席座\n\n07:02.439 --> 07:09.921\n席座非常的重要中部地區的席座可以說是整個深坡都在中部地區啊你也內行的嘛對不對所以你跟台北的跟高雄的獨立我們台中當然我給你提出強烈的抗議嘛好\n\n07:18.064 --> 07:26.390\n你這麼說也就是我們中部地區也必須要有請你們相關單位來聯繫很快的來聯繫嘛對不對中部地區我們現在在談的包括大學大學包括環球科大包括中部的這個其他的這個私立的這個科技大學我們都有在談啦但是我們目前有在談所以有在這個這個有一些塑膠中心啊車輛中心啊這些\n\n07:46.064 --> 07:51.589\n技術中心我們都在進行對啊這都在我們中部中區中部地區所以這重要所以沒有什麼這麼樣的重大我全力給你支持結果沒有我們中部地區有科研區有最重要的產業聚落都在這裡烹飪手工機器工具機器機械零組件全部都在這裡塑膠也全部都在這裡對不對現在的業界的人\n\n08:13.067 --> 08:20.615\n業界人的提升啊就是靠這一些法人經過非常重要對學校的那個要一年以後才能夠非常重要所以一定要列入中部地區好好去談判好不好一定有一定喔這個一定要喔一定要好不好我看到怎麼只有北部只有高雄沒有我們中部\n\n08:33.726 --> 08:46.431\n因為中部地區現在在整個席座以及生產中心研發中心都是很重要的聚落對不對科技大學所有的大專業項因為都是很重要啊所以我以歡喜聽到你說這是第一波啦你們也在研談喔我給你加油跟鼓勵中部地區\n\n08:56.395 --> 09:12.629\n絕對不能落膽啦這個是非常重要而且最後我可以跟你說最後我們在這個這個訓練跟這個席座的方面我們絕對有信心中部地區一定會大成功這個是非常台灣產業非常重要的關鍵對不對那你要趕快去幫我聯繫去幫我做好對不對好\n\n09:18.333 --> 09:43.655\n謝謝支持你就是去落實所以本席要請教你的這個培訓規模跟制度設計是不是有對症下藥本席認為這個非常的重要既然我們已經有提出這樣子的一個計畫那當然我們必須你的培訓規模跟你的制度設計這個是非常非常的重要那所以本席要請教\n\n09:44.676 --> 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