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00:03:27,878\n有我們現在已經在全台裝設了434場那我們今天下午是不是針對我們廚藥養豬場裝設即時錄影監視系統要開一個協商會議是這個是由環境部召開那我們也會參加\n\n10\n00:03:36,482 --> 00:04:03,018\n那針對這部分因為這個主動發起是農業部嘛農業部希望環境部去做這部分裝這個即時監控系統那我想了解一下那我們農業部有沒有給環境部監管手段必要性的說明或者報告在過程當中我們一直在溝通協調聯繫所以這個沒有問題那針對這個必要性沒有提出這個相關報告嗎\n\n11\n00:04:06,192 --> 00:04:27,954\n就是監管手段必要性有沒有給環境部相關的說明或這一方面的報告是這個資料在環境部有因為我們有請環境部評估所以相關的報告環境部可以有這樣的資料因為我剛剛詢問環境部他是說因為農業部沒有給他這個相關的報告所以針對這個必要性\n\n12\n00:04:29,216 --> 00:04:47,061\n可能不夠明確所以如果這個必要性不夠明確我不知道環境部要怎麼樣子去說服我們的豬農要去花那麼多的錢去做這個即時監控錄影的系統事實上已經有434場已經設了那這個環境評估報告我們也請他們\n\n13\n00:04:49,861 --> 00:05:12,281\n那如果他們目前還沒有完成的話其實我們會再跟他們可是現在豬農反映就是你們今天開這個協商會議將來就是要強制要他們去裝設一些這些裡面的系統像及時的監測還有溫度的監測及時而且要及時錄影回傳\n\n14\n00:05:13,863 --> 00:05:34,917\n這些部分好像硬體設施好像要他們豬農去馬上要去做這部分而且是強制性喔是這一些本來環境部就已經有裝設啦那要求如果還沒有裝設的話是做相關的要求因為會這一些如果沒有來進行監控的話可能會影響到非洲豬瘟\n\n15\n00:05:36,175 --> 00:05:47,364\n或者是相關的這個因為我們已經是全世界啊非常著名的我們包括口蹄疫包括我們一般的豬瘟跟灰灼豬瘟我們現在是清淨國所以我們很怕市長我跟您報告因為這個你們現在就是需要豬農去強制去裝設及時監測設備還有及時的溫度監測設備而且要把這些監控的資訊要馬上及時回傳給環保機關當然我們知道這個防疫\n\n16\n00:06:05,658 --> 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這個是由環境部召開那我們也會參加\n216482\t243018\t那針對這部分因為這個主動發起是農業部嘛農業部希望環境部去做這部分裝這個即時監控系統那我想了解一下那我們農業部有沒有給環境部監管手段必要性的說明或者報告在過程當中我們一直在溝通協調聯繫所以這個沒有問題那針對這個必要性沒有提出這個相關報告嗎\n246192\t267954\t就是監管手段必要性有沒有給環境部相關的說明或這一方面的報告是這個資料在環境部有因為我們有請環境部評估所以相關的報告環境部可以有這樣的資料因為我剛剛詢問環境部他是說因為農業部沒有給他這個相關的報告所以針對這個必要性\n269216\t287061\t可能不夠明確所以如果這個必要性不夠明確我不知道環境部要怎麼樣子去說服我們的豬農要去花那麼多的錢去做這個即時監控錄影的系統事實上已經有434場已經設了那這個環境評估報告我們也請他們\n289861\t312281\t那如果他們目前還沒有完成的話其實我們會再跟他們可是現在豬農反映就是你們今天開這個協商會議將來就是要強制要他們去裝設一些這些裡面的系統像及時的監測還有溫度的監測及時而且要及時錄影回傳\n313863\t334917\t這些部分好像硬體設施好像要他們豬農去馬上要去做這部分而且是強制性喔是 這一些本來環境部就已經有裝設啦那要求如果還沒有裝設的話是做相關的要求因為會這一些如果沒有來進行監控的話可能會影響到非洲豬瘟\n336175\t347364\t或者是相關的這個因為我們已經是全世界啊非常著名的我們包括口蹄疫包括我們一般的豬瘟跟灰灼豬瘟我們現在是清淨國所以我們很怕市長我跟您報告因為這個你們現在就是需要豬農去強制去裝設及時監測設備還有及時的溫度監測設備而且要把這些監控的資訊要馬上及時回傳給環保機關當然我們知道這個防疫\n365658\t387320\t當然是要做而且我們也非常注重我們也支持防疫當然要做得好可是現在豬農在反映問題如果這些東西要求他們去做的話勢必這些硬體的設備會增加他們非常多的成本而且這繁瑣的程序它整個成本會提高很多是我們已經有邊內預算要進行補助\n388321\t392183\t所以那我們就講重點所以我們針對這硬體的設備我們農業部應該有相關的配套跟補助的辦法沒有錯 謝謝委員的關心所以我們也希望我們政府還是要照顧這些豬農不然它這些成本的上升畢竟絕對會讓這個豬價又上漲\n406471\t424448\t一定將來還是加租在我們的消費者身上是是是沒有錯好希望農業部當然我們防疫工作能夠做得更好但是我們這個豬價的部分也要幫我們注意是一直我們都要監控對因為這個豬農也在反映消費者也會關心這個豬價一直上漲的問題是沒有錯謝謝委員好感謝市長謝謝好謝謝\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席那請問農業部胡次長胡次長\n委員好次長我想跟你討論一下我們桃園有一個楊梅埔興我們茶蓋廠總廠是當然我們上週也有看到我們週刊跟媒體的報導那我們前嘉義縣長我們前立委陳明文那個委員那之前我們日前我們經濟委員會有去參加考察那他當時有要求說我們桃園市楊梅區的農業部茶及飲料的\n改良總廠 南遷到嘉義 返路鄉這一部分的問題那我們知道我們茶蓋廠楊梅普欣的茶蓋廠它在1902年那時候就設立在我們楊梅普欣是我們一個非常重要的產業輔導的機關我們今天是希望說了解一下這超過120年歷史地方茶\n農業傳承研發的重心那針對這部分之前其實早在2.21年的時候就有聽說廢北南遷的這個提案可是後來因為地方反彈而且他裡面很多都是我們陽梅平鎮中壢周邊在地的員工在那邊那時候也也說有規劃是單一總廠雙軸廠域那而且說\n不會廢了我們楊梅普欣這個查改總廠那不知道現在政策方向是怎麼樣就如同委員所關心的目前也是行政院就是做這樣的指示所以我們確定目前都沒有\n南遷的這個問題目前沒有目前都沒有所以還是秉持我們單一種場雙軸場域的方式喔對好因為我們今天要釐清喔因為這個其實早在2021年的時候就提過那現在又爆發這個事情那所以我們在地的很多的鄉親喔其實從上到桃園市府下到地方基層大家都非常關心希望了解一下我們\n我們中央這個的立場是 謝謝委員的關心事實上關心的行政院也就是這樣指示我們來進行往後的相關的流程好 所以這個立場沒有改變目前不會有廢總廠的問題不會好 那我接下來問一下關於我們廚餘養豬場要裝設及時監視錄影系統\n那在去年8月27號那時候因為非洲豬瘟我們中央災害應變中心在31次會議的時候我們陳俊濟部長那時候有要求環境部環管署要研議將現有435間的養豬場在珍珠設施周邊要裝設即時監控影像系統的可行性請問一下市長知不知道有沒有這個事情\n有 我們現在已經在全台裝設了434場那我們今天下午是不是針對我們廚藥養豬場裝設即時錄影監視系統要開一個協商會議是 這個是由環境部召開那我們也會參加\n那針對這部分因為這個主動發起是農業部嘛農業部希望環境部去做這部分裝這個即時監控系統那我想了解一下那我們農業部有沒有給環境部監管手段必要性的說明或者報告在過程當中我們一直在溝通協調聯繫所以這個沒有問題那針對這個必要性沒有提出這個相關報告嗎\n就是監管手段必要性有沒有給環境部相關的說明或這一方面的報告是這個資料在環境部有因為我們有請環境部評估所以相關的報告環境部可以有這樣的資料因為我剛剛詢問環境部他是說因為農業部沒有給他這個相關的報告所以針對這個必要性\n可能不夠明確所以如果這個必要性不夠明確我不知道環境部要怎麼樣子去說服我們的豬農要去花那麼多的錢去做這個即時監控錄影的系統事實上已經有434場已經設了那這個環境評估報告我們也請他們\n那如果他們目前還沒有完成的話其實我們會再跟他們可是現在豬農反映就是你們今天開這個協商會議將來就是要強制要他們去裝設一些這些裡面的系統像及時的監測還有溫度的監測及時而且要及時錄影回傳\n這些部分好像硬體設施好像要他們豬農去馬上要去做這部分而且是強制性喔是 這一些本來環境部就已經有裝設啦那要求如果還沒有裝設的話是做相關的要求因為會這一些如果沒有來進行監控的話可能會影響到非洲豬瘟\n或者是相關的這個因為我們已經是全世界啊非常著名的我們包括口蹄疫包括我們一般的豬瘟跟灰灼豬瘟我們現在是清淨國所以我們很怕市長我跟您報告因為這個你們現在就是需要豬農去強制去裝設及時監測設備還有及時的溫度監測設備而且要把這些監控的資訊要馬上及時回傳給環保機關當然我們知道這個防疫\n當然是要做而且我們也非常注重我們也支持防疫當然要做得好可是現在豬農在反映問題如果這些東西要求他們去做的話勢必這些硬體的設備會增加他們非常多的成本而且這繁瑣的程序它整個成本會提高很多是我們已經有邊內預算要進行補助\n所以那我們就講重點所以我們針對這硬體的設備我們農業部應該有相關的配套跟補助的辦法沒有錯 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