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00:01:46,813\n跟委員說明其實這次監察院是要爭取能夠繼續的主辦Apple的年會其實透過這樣子一個主辦國際組織年會的這樣子一個機會其實就是能夠讓全世界各個人民或者是讓大家看到所以我才希望說我們要怎麼做能夠讓大家相信\n\n6\n00:01:47,293 --> 00:02:10,162\n不是只看到,讓大家相信台灣在人權維護上面有在提升其實從這次的主題就可以看得出來我們是監察使的任務然後另外有要去做反酷刑其實反酷刑的部分也是一個重要的人權的一個公約的展現然後另外就是有關於人權的AI人權的那個部分\n\n7\n00:02:11,562 --> 00:02:27,970\n我們為什麼會去選定這樣子的一個主題就是監察院重視這樣子的一個人權的任務然後透過這樣子一個國際的會議能夠讓大家都知道監察院的治理的重點在這因為時間不多啦我說這麼難得我們能夠爭取到這樣子一個國際的一個研討會\n\n8\n00:02:35,774 --> 00:02:51,434\n能夠再次的來到台灣舉辦那希望能夠來我們能夠給所有來到台灣參加的這些各國友人能夠留下一個良好的印象不要讓人家覺得說我們爭取到這個機會但是沒有充分的運用讓大家失望所以\n\n9\n00:02:51,934 --> 00:03:08,642\n我們在國際舞台的實力跟專業性希望能夠藉由這次來做一個提升跟發揮但是我繼續請教因為監察院近期爭議不斷我們看到監察院到底該不該廢除的議題現在都又浮上檯面大家都在討論\n\n10\n00:03:10,043 --> 00:03:31,672\n那我們知道監察委員共29人其中一人為院長一人為副院長任期6年那監察委員的職責就像你剛剛說的說是負責行使監察權確保政府部門的透明度跟公正性具有彈劾糾舉審計權但是本應該具有重大使命的監察院現在彷彿是政治人物的退休養老院\n\n11\n00:03:32,532 --> 00:03:53,512\n除了先前爆發的公路車這個濫用的爭議還有監察委員說沒有公路車上班會遲到除了讓人瞠目結舌之外也不知道怎麼形容啦那監委的年薪高達250萬但是這半年來有許多監委所提出的調查報告是個位數甚至於是連一件都沒有提出的\n\n12\n00:03:54,573 --> 00:04:23,553\n領這麼多錢那一件事都沒做這不只誇張我講說領假就不用假了連假裝都不假裝了真的把監裁院當作是養老院拿人民的納稅錢來養老這個是爽缺啦這塊是真好啦爽快就對了難怪大家看不下去說要廢除那我想請教祕書長說針對剛剛我們說的沒有做事的監委難道你們就視而不見嗎還是有其他的作為\n\n13\n00:04:25,914 --> 00:04:52,673\n跟委員說明就是有關於監察權的行使的狀況其實我們每個月都會對外會有相關的公告大致是相當的清楚有多少調查案、多少糾舉案、彈劾案收受多少人民懲罰就以人民懲罰的收受來講第六屆已經超過七萬多屆所以事實上是有非常多的人民是有對他們覺得有原因的地方會有監察員懲罰\n\n14\n00:04:54,254 --> 00:05:11,624\n公告這些數字其實它也不是什麼機密啦但是我要講的就是說人民期待的監察院是一個真正行使監察權那確保政府部門對公眾負責的機構不是一個空殼就是只剩下名稱的機構啦所以監委如果無法履行核心職務那這個機構\n\n15\n00:05:14,266 --> 00:05:36,762\n就沒有存在的價值對不對所以它會成為民眾心中的笑話所以希望在7月份要召開的紀律委員會能夠給人民一個交代對於沒有做事的監委該走人就走人另外要求監察院提供一份資料統計一下所有監委近三年來個別監委近三年來提出調查報告的數量\n\n16\n00:05:37,622 --> 00:05:57,127\n讓全民檢視到底是誰拿錢不做事然後把這份報告我想這不是什麼機密這個希望你們在一個禮拜之內把這份數據這個我們送交給立法院可以嗎更為說明是可以這不是機密嘛好不好好謝謝秘書長謝謝好謝謝寬恒接著我們請吳宗憲召委質詢\n\n17\n00:06:09,385 --> 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時隔六年再度回到台灣我們歡迎來自世界各地的人才與我們交流讓他探討各類人權相關的議題\n53513\t78192\t由監察院主辦的APOR聯會需要接待許多來自不同國家的官員那爭取到APPLE在台舉辦將會使台灣國際能見度更加的提升那請問秘書長要怎麼樣才能讓人相信監察院能夠在實務上確實發揮人權保障的功能請簡單說明\n81398\t106813\t跟委員說明其實這次監察院是要爭取能夠繼續的主辦Apple的年會其實透過這樣子一個主辦國際組織年會的這樣子一個機會其實就是能夠讓全世界各個人民或者是讓大家看到所以我才希望說我們要怎麼做能夠讓大家相信\n107293\t130162\t不是只看到,讓大家相信台灣在人權維護上面有在提升其實從這次的主題就可以看得出來我們是監察使的任務然後另外有要去做反酷刑其實反酷刑的部分也是一個重要的人權的一個公約的展現然後另外就是有關於人權的AI人權的那個部分\n131562\t147970\t我們為什麼會去選定這樣子的一個主題就是監察院重視這樣子的一個人權的任務然後透過這樣子一個國際的會議能夠讓大家都知道監察院的治理的重點在這因為時間不多啦我說這麼難得我們能夠爭取到這樣子一個國際的一個研討會\n155774\t171434\t能夠再次的來到台灣舉辦那希望能夠來我們能夠給所有來到台灣參加的這些各國友人能夠留下一個良好的印象不要讓人家覺得說我們爭取到這個機會但是沒有充分的運用讓大家失望所以\n171934\t188642\t我們在國際舞台的實力跟專業性希望能夠藉由這次來做一個提升跟發揮但是我繼續請教因為監察院近期爭議不斷我們看到監察院到底該不該廢除的議題現在都又浮上檯面大家都在討論\n190043\t211672\t那我們知道監察委員共29人其中一人為院長一人為副院長任期6年那監察委員的職責就像你剛剛說的說是負責行使監察權確保政府部門的透明度跟公正性具有彈劾糾舉審計權但是本應該具有重大使命的監察院現在彷彿是政治人物的退休養老院\n212532\t233512\t除了先前爆發的公路車這個濫用的爭議還有監察委員說沒有公路車上班會遲到除了讓人瞠目結舌之外也不知道怎麼形容啦那監委的年薪高達250萬但是這半年來有許多監委所提出的調查報告是個位數甚至於是連一件都沒有提出的\n234573\t263553\t領這麼多錢那一件事都沒做這不只誇張我講說領假就不用假了連假裝都不假裝了真的把監裁院當作是養老院拿人民的納稅錢來養老這個是爽缺啦這塊是真好啦爽快就對了難怪大家看不下去說要廢除那我想請教祕書長說針對剛剛我們說的沒有做事的監委難道你們就視而不見嗎還是有其他的作為\n265914\t292673\t跟委員說明就是有關於監察權的行使的狀況其實我們每個月都會對外會有相關的公告大致是相當的清楚有多少調查案、多少糾舉案、彈劾案收受多少人民懲罰就以人民懲罰的收受來講第六屆已經超過七萬多屆所以事實上是有非常多的人民是有對他們覺得有原因的地方會有監察員懲罰\n294254\t311624\t公告這些數字其實它也不是什麼機密啦但是我要講的就是說人民期待的監察院是一個真正行使監察權那確保政府部門對公眾負責的機構不是一個空殼就是只剩下名稱的機構啦所以監委如果無法履行核心職務那這個機構\n314266\t336762\t就沒有存在的價值 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時隔六年再度回到台灣我們歡迎來自世界各地的人才與我們交流讓他探討各類人權相關的議題\n由監察院主辦的APOR聯會需要接待許多來自不同國家的官員那爭取到APPLE在台舉辦將會使台灣國際能見度更加的提升那請問秘書長要怎麼樣才能讓人相信監察院能夠在實務上確實發揮人權保障的功能請簡單說明\n跟委員說明其實這次監察院是要爭取能夠繼續的主辦Apple的年會其實透過這樣子一個主辦國際組織年會的這樣子一個機會其實就是能夠讓全世界各個人民或者是讓大家看到所以我才希望說我們要怎麼做能夠讓大家相信\n不是只看到,讓大家相信台灣在人權維護上面有在提升其實從這次的主題就可以看得出來我們是監察使的任務然後另外有要去做反酷刑其實反酷刑的部分也是一個重要的人權的一個公約的展現然後另外就是有關於人權的AI人權的那個部分\n我們為什麼會去選定這樣子的一個主題就是監察院重視這樣子的一個人權的任務然後透過這樣子一個國際的會議能夠讓大家都知道監察院的治理的重點在這因為時間不多啦我說這麼難得我們能夠爭取到這樣子一個國際的一個研討會\n能夠再次的來到台灣舉辦那希望能夠來我們能夠給所有來到台灣參加的這些各國友人能夠留下一個良好的印象不要讓人家覺得說我們爭取到這個機會但是沒有充分的運用讓大家失望所以\n我們在國際舞台的實力跟專業性希望能夠藉由這次來做一個提升跟發揮但是我繼續請教因為監察院近期爭議不斷我們看到監察院到底該不該廢除的議題現在都又浮上檯面大家都在討論\n那我們知道監察委員共29人其中一人為院長一人為副院長任期6年那監察委員的職責就像你剛剛說的說是負責行使監察權確保政府部門的透明度跟公正性具有彈劾糾舉審計權但是本應該具有重大使命的監察院現在彷彿是政治人物的退休養老院\n除了先前爆發的公路車這個濫用的爭議還有監察委員說沒有公路車上班會遲到除了讓人瞠目結舌之外也不知道怎麼形容啦那監委的年薪高達250萬但是這半年來有許多監委所提出的調查報告是個位數甚至於是連一件都沒有提出的\n領這麼多錢那一件事都沒做這不只誇張我講說領假就不用假了連假裝都不假裝了真的把監裁院當作是養老院拿人民的納稅錢來養老這個是爽缺啦這塊是真好啦爽快就對了難怪大家看不下去說要廢除那我想請教祕書長說針對剛剛我們說的沒有做事的監委難道你們就視而不見嗎還是有其他的作為\n跟委員說明就是有關於監察權的行使的狀況其實我們每個月都會對外會有相關的公告大致是相當的清楚有多少調查案、多少糾舉案、彈劾案收受多少人民懲罰就以人民懲罰的收受來講第六屆已經超過七萬多屆所以事實上是有非常多的人民是有對他們覺得有原因的地方會有監察員懲罰\n公告這些數字其實它也不是什麼機密啦但是我要講的就是說人民期待的監察院是一個真正行使監察權那確保政府部門對公眾負責的機構不是一個空殼就是只剩下名稱的機構啦所以監委如果無法履行核心職務那這個機構\n就沒有存在的價值 對不對所以它會成為民眾心中的笑話所以希望在7月份要召開的紀律委員會能夠給人民一個交代對於沒有做事的監委該走人就走人另外要求監察院提供一份資料統計一下所有監委近三年來個別監委近三年來提出調查報告的數量\n讓全民檢視到底是誰拿錢不做事然後把這份報告我想這不是什麼機密這個希望你們在一個禮拜之內把這份數據這個我們送交給立法院可以嗎更為說明是可以這不是機密嘛好不好好謝謝秘書長謝謝好謝謝寬恒接著我們請吳宗憲召委質詢\n抱歉我不管\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.690 --> 00:12.485\n主席各位列席官員大家早主席有請監察院王代理秘書長好我們請監察院王代理秘書長委員好秘書長好\n\n00:15.070 --> 00:39.850\n這次解凍案主要是為了因應第37屆澳紐及太平洋地區監察使年會及人權國際研討會在台灣舉辦那所以排這個解凍案那這個研討會在我們監察院陳菊院長也多次表示希望能夠再次爭取到台灣來舉辦那持續的推動國際監察交流合作讓世界看見台灣在2019年舉辦\n\n00:43.313 --> 00:51.753\n過後時隔六年再度回到台灣我們歡迎來自世界各地的人才與我們交流讓他探討各類人權相關的議題\n\n00:53.513 --> 01:18.192\n由監察院主辦的APOR聯會需要接待許多來自不同國家的官員那爭取到APPLE在台舉辦將會使台灣國際能見度更加的提升那請問秘書長要怎麼樣才能讓人相信監察院能夠在實務上確實發揮人權保障的功能請簡單說明\n\n01:21.398 --> 01:46.813\n跟委員說明其實這次監察院是要爭取能夠繼續的主辦Apple的年會其實透過這樣子一個主辦國際組織年會的這樣子一個機會其實就是能夠讓全世界各個人民或者是讓大家看到所以我才希望說我們要怎麼做能夠讓大家相信\n\n01:47.293 --> 02:10.162\n不是只看到,讓大家相信台灣在人權維護上面有在提升其實從這次的主題就可以看得出來我們是監察使的任務然後另外有要去做反酷刑其實反酷刑的部分也是一個重要的人權的一個公約的展現然後另外就是有關於人權的AI人權的那個部分\n\n02:11.562 --> 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