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00:02:19,111\n就是跟委員報就是我們GDP都會持續來滾動檢討那我們就是按計根據那個結果我們如果說原來的有一些不確定性因素比較確定的時候那有該需要調整我們就會來進行調整我們滾動式檢討啦所以說我們也密切的在觀察就是整個經濟的一個走向那我在這裡再跟\n\n7\n00:02:19,931 --> 00:02:37,485\n互助做一個探討就是地方補助款地方補助款應該納入財政均衡的一個條件其實從六都的統籌分配款裡頭我還是再重述一次就是台南市不僅是分配的最少那也是增加的最少\n\n8\n00:02:39,147 --> 00:02:45,952\n這個從今年那個這個月月初的時候我們在6月4號其實我也詢問過主計長在六個都的統籌分配款裡頭其實我們都看到了台南市在統籌分配款裡頭它其實分配最少增加最少\n\n9\n00:02:56,599 --> 00:03:22,085\n尤其是在一般性補助款還被刪了最多那如果我們從這個一般性補助那個補助款裡頭刪27%的這一個調整之下我們看到了台南還有就是高雄、彰化、屏東這四個縣市又被刪了最多這種齊頭是其實是非常的不合理不知道那個護座你的看法是怎樣\n\n10\n00:03:22,685 --> 00:03:50,382\n是跟文報就是原來我們制度設計的確就是說我是中央統籌這個統籌分配稅款加一半性補助把這兩個項目加在一起看來讓這個地方縣市之間可以均衡那所以補一半性補助款就是來就是說調整那個統籌分配稅那邊的部分我想你也知道這個這個方式其實是\n\n11\n00:03:51,383 --> 00:04:16,077\n不是最好的一個方法那我們其實基本上你們現在也在研擬一個比較好的方式那我們再回到就是今天就是監察院這個750萬這個750萬的這個預算那監察院要動用到第二億倍金那動用到第二億倍金其實常態性我們都是會在下半年來動用這個一倍金那\n\n12\n00:04:17,068 --> 00:04:44,302\n如果你認為說監察院他現在在這個750萬動用第二一倍金他的合理性在哪裡主要在於因為他是全數被刪減所以的確讓他的業務無法推動所以因為九月初就要來舉辦了所以我們認為就是應該就是依我22預算法22條來經行這份同意後來動之第二一倍金\n\n13\n00:04:44,662 --> 00:05:12,180\n好謝謝謝謝副主席長接著我們請王代理秘書長我想秘書長那個副主席講得非常清楚就是說在這個審計部的預算裡頭你們一年的預算有多少十億十億點你一年的預算有多少十點九你一年的預算有多少十點九\n\n14\n00:05:17,916 --> 00:05:40,444\n10.97億10.97億對然後稅出稅入這些預算你有沒有看清楚我想齁這個Miu長是你今天給我們的你是要來尋求我們同意嘛對不對是的齁支持你們的提案嘛是那我們看得出來就是說你的那個報告其實只有\n\n15\n00:05:42,317 --> 00:06:10,531\n這個不會超過我相信不會超過五百個字啊那後來你又補上了這一個附件就是說這個在整個年會裡頭所有的細則詳細的一個資料那我們也知道說在國內其實辦這樣的一個活動是我們台灣的一個光榮那我們也一定要支持你那可是你們提出來的就是這麼少的一個資料\n\n16\n00:06:12,125 --> 00:06:25,279\n這個實在是讓我們有點尷尬這跟委員說明這你看過嗎你看過嗎是的是的你看過你還拿出來是是委員因為那是你知道今天要來備詢那你也同意這樣的資料出來\n\n17\n00:06:27,247 --> 00:06:46,017\n因為那是我的口頭報告妳同意嗎妳同意我們檢討因為真的是非常希望立法院能夠支持然後那我們有報告不足的地方我們知道妳的預算非常少預算非常少妳光是一個衛福部的預算就要2800億的\n\n18\n00:06:48,158 --> 00:07:14,565\n那這麼少的預算要做這麼多的一個事情當然你們有你們的一個困境可是如果像這樣子這麼消極的態度其實我想我們應該要做很多很多的一個努力啦那當然就是說沿著上這個750萬我也當然是支持那我想在這裡再特別提醒監察院我們應該做更多的一個修正做更多的一個努力好謝謝謝謝主席\n\n19\n00:07:17,137 --> 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謝謝主席\n437137\t437598\t我們謝謝賴會員的召委\n","txt":"副主席長跟這個代理秘書長副主席長我想從去年的統計我們可以看得到就是前面的經濟成長率從4.59提高到4.84這是去年的\n人均的GDP也達到3.4萬美金那今年的第一季的經濟成長率其實也非常好那我們從四年初我們初步的一個估計是5.37後來又拉到5.48那其實產業也提前拉貨就是我們的出口\n那在第一季我們的GDP已經衝上了5.48了那為什麼就是說主計總署在評估今年的下半年的經濟情勢會不好是什麼原因為什麼主計總署這樣看壞下半年的經濟成長率呢\n跟我們報告就是主要下半年是受到這個對等關稅的這個不確定性的因素的影響那當然年代就是說前上半年因為已經提前拉貨了所以這種種因素的影響所以會影響到下半年就是GDP的成長我們就會認為就是會比較沒有上半年那麼好\n所以主計總署採取一個比較保守的一個看法 一個做法是不是這樣子對 主要還是在意很多的不確定性對 疫情在下半年可能是會狀況比較不好是好 這個會不會有過度保守呢\n就是跟委員報就是我們GDP都會持續來滾動檢討那我們就是按計根據那個結果我們如果說原來的有一些不確定性因素比較確定的時候那有該需要調整我們就會來進行調整我們滾動式檢討啦所以說我們也密切的在觀察就是整個經濟的一個走向那我在這裡再跟\n互助做一個探討就是地方補助款地方補助款應該納入財政均衡的一個條件其實從六都的統籌分配款裡頭我還是再重述一次就是台南市不僅是分配的最少那也是增加的最少\n這個從今年那個這個月月初的時候我們在6月4號其實我也詢問過主計長在六個都的統籌分配款裡頭其實我們都看到了台南市在統籌分配款裡頭它其實分配最少增加最少\n尤其是在一般性補助款還被刪了最多那如果我們從這個一般性補助那個補助款裡頭刪27%的這一個調整之下我們看到了台南還有就是高雄、彰化、屏東這四個縣市又被刪了最多這種齊頭是其實是非常的不合理不知道那個護座你的看法是怎樣\n是跟文報就是原來我們制度設計的確就是說我是中央統籌這個統籌分配稅款加一半性補助把這兩個項目加在一起看來讓這個地方縣市之間可以均衡那所以補一半性補助款就是來就是說調整那個統籌分配稅那邊的部分我想你也知道這個這個方式其實是\n不是最好的一個方法那我們其實基本上你們現在也在研擬一個比較好的方式那我們再回到就是今天就是監察院這個750萬這個750萬的這個預算那監察院要動用到第二億倍金那動用到第二億倍金其實常態性我們都是會在下半年來動用這個一倍金那\n如果你認為說監察院他現在在這個750萬動用第二一倍金他的合理性在哪裡主要在於因為他是全數被刪減所以的確讓他的業務無法推動所以因為九月初就要來舉辦了所以我們認為就是應該就是依我22預算法22條來經行這份同意後來動之第二一倍金\n好 謝謝 謝謝副主席長接著我們請王代理秘書長我想秘書長那個副主席講得非常清楚就是說在這個審計部的預算裡頭你們一年的預算有多少十億十億點你一年的預算有多少十點九你一年的預算有多少十點九\n10.97億10.97億對然後稅出稅入這些預算你有沒有看清楚我想齁這個Miu長是你今天給我們的你是要來尋求我們同意嘛對不對是的齁支持你們的提案嘛是那我們看得出來就是說你的那個報告其實只有\n這個不會超過 我相信不會超過五百個字啊那後來你又補上了這一個附件就是說這個在整個年會裡頭所有的細則 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