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00:01:06,023\n對,1800多,可是光是這個項目就750萬,這個April年會所以我認為這個荒謬的預算審議場景還有包含連國民黨的很多前輩啊,大佬他們自己都說看到國民黨的委員荒謬奇怪的預算審查案提案4000多案,造成這個荒謬的亂象可能國民黨委員都忘記,但是我想大家都不會忘記所以我也很希望今天我們在後續的表決可以看到大家都是支持的\n\n4\n00:01:06,483 --> 00:01:29,134\n所以把人權的議題往下延伸我接下來跟您討論也是要一併拜託您不知道後續的可能性啦關於2023年監察院出席這個伊比利美州監察使聯盟我們有相關的會議然後有看到這個出國報告我要認同這個出國報告您不用擔心怎麼說因為這裡面很大篇幅提到兒少權益的部分我也認為這確實是我們台灣監察院\n\n5\n00:01:31,155 --> 00:01:54,446\n或是過去在人權委員會其實都已經多有著墨並且看到確實是有些進展那當然我知道你們現在預算受到很大的影響可是我還是想要拜託帶回去相關的意見喔下一張如果之後相關預算有機會調整讓你們可以好好用這些錢好好做這些事情我想要拜託監察院先整理這五年近五年\n\n6\n00:01:55,506 --> 00:02:19,182\n監察院參加國外相關組織會議關於兒少政策監察的討論可不可以帶回台灣作為參考那過去已經參加過的我不確定你們有沒有整理相關進度如果有的話可不可以先給我們那第二個就是未來在今年即將主辦這個April年會當中有沒有機會放入兒少權益的討論我剛剛看到你們手上給我這個議程我剛剛快速看了一眼\n\n7\n00:02:20,363 --> 00:02:36,361\n有一個人權精神台灣民主跟監察權的發展或者是如何讓民眾有感或者是AI與人權民主與法治不知道我們哪一個部分的議程你覺得有機會在子題討論的時候納入跟兒少權益監察政策有關的議程\n\n8\n00:02:38,767 --> 00:02:53,930\n跟委員說明我們現在的議程是粗略的預估大概是這樣子就我個人覺得兒少權益的部分可能在第一場或者是在第三場都會可能還有機會去放進來\n\n9\n00:02:54,411 --> 00:03:12,140\n那看起來我們滿有共識的我們後續就再來討論好不好謝謝你謝謝好接下來下一個我想要感謝監察院大家都一直在說監察院沒有做事我要說是因為他們不願意認真看監察院做了什麼事情光是我們辦公室過去這兩年半我們提到非常多兒少現場的困境\n\n10\n00:03:12,660 --> 00:03:35,666\n我們除了開記者會跟相關主管機關對話我們實質的希望改善現場狀況我們看到監察院有非常多監委也主動提起調查相關後續的進度我們非常肯定監察院這邊給予整個公民團體或者是學者專家團體或是在意這個議題的人的協助我可不可以請你說一下我們監察院怎麼看這個事情關於很多兒少政策\n\n11\n00:03:36,640 --> 00:04:03,257\n其實就像委員所觀察到的這一屆的監察委員對於CRC的相關的調查報告是非常分量是非常多的然後又加上我們有非常多的監委對這個議題都非常的有興趣而且有深深有非常有專業所以我們開啟了非常多的調查案甚至有些專案調查研究人權委員會也有類似的一個通案性的研究\n\n12\n00:04:03,797 --> 00:04:25,775\n所以我們所涉獵的密度是相當的高的好沒錯那後續我想除了我們現在已經看到的成果之外往下其實我還是想要持續拜託監察院關於單項協會治癒跟體育署之間怎麼說其實過去這幾年這兩年來其實有非常多單項協會的失職跟施責跟失能其實他們\n\n13\n00:04:26,836 --> 00:04:49,059\n這些不作為導致了現場第一線運動員的權益受損包含昨天我們還看到女足公會發了一個聲明協會的不當安排班機的事情而嚴重影響選手的權益可是其實協會的監督主管機關是體育署那至於教育部那未來運動部要成立今年九月就成立我想我就先提早預告有很多關於體育\n\n14\n00:04:50,500 --> 00:05:06,013\n體育界的困境真的未來要拜託監察院一起努力尤其是體育界這些過去很多所謂大老觀念大老把持的這種實質上的做法真的也非常影響很多年輕人要投入所謂運動產業的意願這件事情\n\n15\n00:05:08,255 --> 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对吗\n41375\t66023\t對,1800多,可是光是這個項目就750萬,這個April年會所以我認為這個荒謬的預算審議場景還有包含連國民黨的很多前輩啊,大佬他們自己都說看到國民黨的委員荒謬奇怪的預算審查案提案4000多案,造成這個荒謬的亂象可能國民黨委員都忘記,但是我想大家都不會忘記所以我也很希望今天我們在後續的表決可以看到大家都是支持的\n66483\t89134\t所以把人權的議題往下延伸我接下來跟您討論也是要一併拜託您不知道後續的可能性啦關於2023年監察院出席這個伊比利美州監察使聯盟我們有相關的會議然後有看到這個出國報告我要認同這個出國報告您不用擔心怎麼說因為這裡面很大篇幅提到兒少權益的部分我也認為這確實是我們台灣監察院\n91155\t114446\t或是過去在人權委員會其實都已經多有著墨並且看到確實是有些進展那當然我知道你們現在預算受到很大的影響可是我還是想要拜託帶回去相關的意見喔下一張如果之後相關預算有機會調整讓你們可以好好用這些錢好好做這些事情我想要拜託監察院先整理這五年近五年\n115506\t139182\t監察院參加國外相關組織會議關於兒少政策監察的討論可不可以帶回台灣作為參考那過去已經參加過的我不確定你們有沒有整理相關進度如果有的話可不可以先給我們那第二個就是未來在今年即將主辦這個April年會當中有沒有機會放入兒少權益的討論我剛剛看到你們手上給我這個議程我剛剛快速看了一眼\n140363\t156361\t有一個人權精神台灣民主跟監察權的發展或者是如何讓民眾有感或者是AI與人權民主與法治不知道我們哪一個部分的議程你覺得有機會在子題討論的時候納入跟兒少權益監察政策有關的議程\n158767\t173930\t跟委員說明我們現在的議程是粗略的預估大概是這樣子就我個人覺得兒少權益的部分可能在第一場或者是在第三場都會可能還有機會去放進來\n174411\t192140\t那看起來我們滿有共識的我們後續就再來討論好不好謝謝你 謝謝好 接下來下一個我想要感謝監察院大家都一直在說監察院沒有做事我要說是因為他們不願意認真看監察院做了什麼事情光是我們辦公室過去這兩年半我們提到非常多兒少現場的困境\n192660\t215666\t我們除了開記者會跟相關主管機關對話我們實質的希望改善現場狀況我們看到監察院有非常多監委也主動提起調查相關後續的進度我們非常肯定監察院這邊給予整個公民團體或者是學者專家團體或是在意這個議題的人的協助我可不可以請你說一下我們監察院怎麼看這個事情關於很多兒少政策\n216640\t243257\t其實就像委員所觀察到的這一屆的監察委員對於CRC的相關的調查報告是非常分量是非常多的然後又加上我們有非常多的監委對這個議題都非常的有興趣而且有深深有非常有專業所以我們開啟了非常多的調查案甚至有些專案調查研究人權委員會也有類似的一個通案性的研究\n243797\t265775\t所以我們所涉獵的密度是相當的高的好沒錯那後續我想除了我們現在已經看到的成果之外往下其實我還是想要持續拜託監察院關於單項協會治癒跟體育署之間怎麼說其實過去這幾年這兩年來其實有非常多單項協會的失職跟施責跟失能其實他們\n266836\t289059\t這些不作為導致了現場第一線運動員的權益受損包含昨天我們還看到女足公會發了一個聲明協會的不當安排班機的事情而嚴重影響選手的權益可是其實協會的監督主管機關是體育署那至於教育部那未來運動部要成立今年九月就成立我想我就先提早預告有很多關於體育\n290500\t306013\t體育界的困境真的未來要拜託監察院一起努力尤其是體育界這些過去很多所謂大老觀念大老把持的這種實質上的做法真的也非常影響很多年輕人要投入所謂運動產業的意願這件事情\n308255\t334092\t那因为很多实质的问题我们没有办法在今天讨论没有关系我只是先把我们的期待跟很多国人对运动部成立之后的期待先带给监察院好接下来下一个案子这个我也感谢监察院在施大案的协助跟相关调查可是很可惜的是我们看到外部的独立调查小组做了一个停聘两年的建议可是最后施大竟然决定让这个行为人\n334952\t351057\t他規定他只有不得在外兼職意思就是他可以繼續留在師大裡面那當時檢舉他的這些球員這些學生他未來如何面對這個人或者是他會不會再去影響其他的學生後續這個部分可不可以拜託監察院持續協助\n353948\t382708\t這個調查案應該已經提出調查報告那後續呢都會持續追蹤我們還沒有結案好那最後一個就是關於體育班的政策我當然不會只有跟監察院說因為體育班有太多權益不對等的關係那未來體育班我們要如何協助我一樣把問題帶過來好不好我要拜託監察院持續關注我們體育班那我這邊是不是可以快速建請監察院人權委員會評估進行相關專題研究不要讓在孩子們的受益權身心健康權受到影響\n384770\t385170\t接著請王世堅委員質詢\n","txt":"今天關於要談這個750萬支應案的事情喔剛剛真的聽起來大部分人應該是同意的啦我不知道你現在在這邊你覺得樂不樂觀等一下我們要表決的時候\n我省省乐观 希望能够通过我也希望可以通过 为什么这么说因为过去我们在做人权工作的时候其实我们知道人权工作的国际交流非常的重要那事实上呢 这个750万到底是跑到哪里去了我跟您再次确定一下它其实是被你们编在所谓意识业务当中那本来今年呢 申请的是1800多万 对吗\n對,1800多,可是光是這個項目就750萬,這個April年會所以我認為這個荒謬的預算審議場景還有包含連國民黨的很多前輩啊,大佬他們自己都說看到國民黨的委員荒謬奇怪的預算審查案提案4000多案,造成這個荒謬的亂象可能國民黨委員都忘記,但是我想大家都不會忘記所以我也很希望今天我們在後續的表決可以看到大家都是支持的\n所以把人權的議題往下延伸我接下來跟您討論也是要一併拜託您不知道後續的可能性啦關於2023年監察院出席這個伊比利美州監察使聯盟我們有相關的會議然後有看到這個出國報告我要認同這個出國報告您不用擔心怎麼說因為這裡面很大篇幅提到兒少權益的部分我也認為這確實是我們台灣監察院\n或是過去在人權委員會其實都已經多有著墨並且看到確實是有些進展那當然我知道你們現在預算受到很大的影響可是我還是想要拜託帶回去相關的意見喔下一張如果之後相關預算有機會調整讓你們可以好好用這些錢好好做這些事情我想要拜託監察院先整理這五年近五年\n監察院參加國外相關組織會議關於兒少政策監察的討論可不可以帶回台灣作為參考那過去已經參加過的我不確定你們有沒有整理相關進度如果有的話可不可以先給我們那第二個就是未來在今年即將主辦這個April年會當中有沒有機會放入兒少權益的討論我剛剛看到你們手上給我這個議程我剛剛快速看了一眼\n有一個人權精神台灣民主跟監察權的發展或者是如何讓民眾有感或者是AI與人權民主與法治不知道我們哪一個部分的議程你覺得有機會在子題討論的時候納入跟兒少權益監察政策有關的議程\n跟委員說明我們現在的議程是粗略的預估大概是這樣子就我個人覺得兒少權益的部分可能在第一場或者是在第三場都會可能還有機會去放進來\n那看起來我們滿有共識的我們後續就再來討論好不好謝謝你 謝謝好 接下來下一個我想要感謝監察院大家都一直在說監察院沒有做事我要說是因為他們不願意認真看監察院做了什麼事情光是我們辦公室過去這兩年半我們提到非常多兒少現場的困境\n我們除了開記者會跟相關主管機關對話我們實質的希望改善現場狀況我們看到監察院有非常多監委也主動提起調查相關後續的進度我們非常肯定監察院這邊給予整個公民團體或者是學者專家團體或是在意這個議題的人的協助我可不可以請你說一下我們監察院怎麼看這個事情關於很多兒少政策\n其實就像委員所觀察到的這一屆的監察委員對於CRC的相關的調查報告是非常分量是非常多的然後又加上我們有非常多的監委對這個議題都非常的有興趣而且有深深有非常有專業所以我們開啟了非常多的調查案甚至有些專案調查研究人權委員會也有類似的一個通案性的研究\n所以我們所涉獵的密度是相當的高的好沒錯那後續我想除了我們現在已經看到的成果之外往下其實我還是想要持續拜託監察院關於單項協會治癒跟體育署之間怎麼說其實過去這幾年這兩年來其實有非常多單項協會的失職跟施責跟失能其實他們\n這些不作為導致了現場第一線運動員的權益受損包含昨天我們還看到女足公會發了一個聲明協會的不當安排班機的事情而嚴重影響選手的權益可是其實協會的監督主管機關是體育署那至於教育部那未來運動部要成立今年九月就成立我想我就先提早預告有很多關於體育\n體育界的困境真的未來要拜託監察院一起努力尤其是體育界這些過去很多所謂大老觀念大老把持的這種實質上的做法真的也非常影響很多年輕人要投入所謂運動產業的意願這件事情\n那因为很多实质的问题我们没有办法在今天讨论没有关系我只是先把我们的期待跟很多国人对运动部成立之后的期待先带给监察院好接下来下一个案子这个我也感谢监察院在施大案的协助跟相关调查可是很可惜的是我们看到外部的独立调查小组做了一个停聘两年的建议可是最后施大竟然决定让这个行为人\n他規定他只有不得在外兼職意思就是他可以繼續留在師大裡面那當時檢舉他的這些球員這些學生他未來如何面對這個人或者是他會不會再去影響其他的學生後續這個部分可不可以拜託監察院持續協助\n這個調查案應該已經提出調查報告那後續呢都會持續追蹤我們還沒有結案好那最後一個就是關於體育班的政策我當然不會只有跟監察院說因為體育班有太多權益不對等的關係那未來體育班我們要如何協助我一樣把問題帶過來好不好我要拜託監察院持續關注我們體育班那我這邊是不是可以快速建請監察院人權委員會評估進行相關專題研究不要讓在孩子們的受益權身心健康權受到影響\n接著請王世堅委員質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.414 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02:36.361\n有一個人權精神台灣民主跟監察權的發展或者是如何讓民眾有感或者是AI與人權民主與法治不知道我們哪一個部分的議程你覺得有機會在子題討論的時候納入跟兒少權益監察政策有關的議程\n\n02:38.767 --> 02:53.930\n跟委員說明我們現在的議程是粗略的預估大概是這樣子就我個人覺得兒少權益的部分可能在第一場或者是在第三場都會可能還有機會去放進來\n\n02:54.411 --> 03:12.140\n那看起來我們滿有共識的我們後續就再來討論好不好謝謝你謝謝好接下來下一個我想要感謝監察院大家都一直在說監察院沒有做事我要說是因為他們不願意認真看監察院做了什麼事情光是我們辦公室過去這兩年半我們提到非常多兒少現場的困境\n\n03:12.660 --> 03:35.666\n我們除了開記者會跟相關主管機關對話我們實質的希望改善現場狀況我們看到監察院有非常多監委也主動提起調查相關後續的進度我們非常肯定監察院這邊給予整個公民團體或者是學者專家團體或是在意這個議題的人的協助我可不可以請你說一下我們監察院怎麼看這個事情關於很多兒少政策\n\n03:36.640 --> 04:03.257\n其實就像委員所觀察到的這一屆的監察委員對於CRC的相關的調查報告是非常分量是非常多的然後又加上我們有非常多的監委對這個議題都非常的有興趣而且有深深有非常有專業所以我們開啟了非常多的調查案甚至有些專案調查研究人權委員會也有類似的一個通案性的研究\n\n04:03.797 --> 04:25.775\n所以我們所涉獵的密度是相當的高的好沒錯那後續我想除了我們現在已經看到的成果之外往下其實我還是想要持續拜託監察院關於單項協會治癒跟體育署之間怎麼說其實過去這幾年這兩年來其實有非常多單項協會的失職跟施責跟失能其實他們\n\n04:26.836 --> 04:49.059\n這些不作為導致了現場第一線運動員的權益受損包含昨天我們還看到女足公會發了一個聲明協會的不當安排班機的事情而嚴重影響選手的權益可是其實協會的監督主管機關是體育署那至於教育部那未來運動部要成立今年九月就成立我想我就先提早預告有很多關於體育\n\n04:50.500 --> 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