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00:00:03,220\n有請監察院的王秘書長好有請謝謝\n\n2\n00:00:06,858 --> 00:00:29,755\n委員好秘書長好我們監察院其實也是民眾非常高度期待的機關因為監察院是我國憲法賦予最高的監察機關所以它理應是政府失能官員失職的時候人民最可以依賴的著目鳥\n\n3\n00:00:30,916 --> 00:00:50,790\n但是很可惜我們看到的是近幾年來這隻著墓鳥它著墓的這個堅繪似乎失去了也失去了勇氣更失去了監察院應有的獨立性跟效率這是民眾普遍的觀感\n\n4\n00:00:51,630 --> 00:01:06,275\n所以現在的監察院讓民眾感覺不再是勇於皆必的制度守護人而且更像是關在金籠子裡的一隻寵物鳥著墓鳥不應該是寵物鳥\n\n5\n00:01:08,212 --> 00:01:26,902\n所以我不知道秘書長你們面對社會的期待跟很多的批評聲浪監察院內部有沒有檢討我們是不是應該要成為人民值得信賴的監察機關你等一下再回覆所以\n\n6\n00:01:28,613 --> 00:01:53,608\n監察權呢我們都認為不能只是做做樣子寫寫故事交交報告更不會是行政機關韓文的這個猶猜所以人民要的是真正的制衡的權利確保改革落地的憲政機關所以我們看到本席掌握了一些資料就是我們監察院從108年以來啊監察院結\n\n7\n00:01:59,039 --> 00:02:28,386\n半截的重大案件明顯下滑然後呢整體案件量持續的減少那我們覺得這不是個案這個是結構性的退縮和怠惰所以調查報告感覺充其量只是個記錄者但監察院的職責應該是糾舉者如果糾舉失職官員都做不到那我們監察機關的存在意義是什麼\n\n8\n00:02:30,140 --> 00:02:44,291\n為什麼我們看到很多社會上民怨的事件重大官員的為師案件都是媒體或立法院揭露在先監察院始終慢半拍而且不了了之\n\n9\n00:02:45,191 --> 00:03:08,718\n所以面對這樣的一個失職案件彈劾率極低調查時間又冗長社會觀感極差的情況下部分的監察委員反倒積極的參與國際出訪做這個形象工程跟在國內的調查績效形成了非常大的一個反差所以\n\n10\n00:03:09,997 --> 00:03:21,798\n人民的陳情申冤案不好好做卻花大筆的公帑搞國際拜會這不是監察制度的初衷是公器私用的歪風所以\n\n11\n00:03:23,820 --> 00:03:41,352\n我們主張監察院要重新定位它不能是裝飾民主的機構必須真正落實憲政制衡的力量所以請秘書長回應你是否支持建立監察權績效公開的評鑑制度是或否\n\n12\n00:03:43,474 --> 00:03:59,313\n請委員讓我說明一下這有關於這個案件的這樣子委員這樣分類其實是我們調查案件注意事項第五點的所謂的一般案件是要求三個月要結案重大案件是六個月特殊重大是一年其實特殊重大是持續的\n\n13\n00:04:00,054 --> 00:04:21,898\n持續的增加比第五屆比起來是有四倍以上的增加如果案件真的有增加我們要問是增加的那你到底有沒有改善你的案件增加你案件我又不看表面是不是有改善是不是有具體的讓民眾感受到大家的觀感都是如此就是我們提出來的調查報告都會對外公開沒關係那你是否支持監察\n\n14\n00:04:28,579 --> 00:04:35,022\n是否支持重啟監委評鑑機制呢?接受國會或民間的評分監督是否支持?更為說明監委是依據法律獨立行使職權\n\n15\n00:04:49,609 --> 00:05:12,970\n那至於說那這個只是一個評鑑機制那要看是什麼樣的一個組織或者機構或者是評鑑的標準最後最後那其實有些因為它是依據法律獨立行使支持我知道你支持啦那是否願意檢討近年低落的辦案成效提出具體的改進報告跟委員說明我們不認為我們的辦案成效有低落\n\n16\n00:05:15,572 --> 00:05:24,376\n而且我們人民陳情案件第六屆到現在為止有七萬七千多件那其實從八十八年一直到五月總共調查報告是九千多件沒有辦法真正糾舉彈劾而且很多公務人員重大疏失你們都沒有辦法進行整個的\n\n17\n00:05:38,426 --> 00:06:01,556\n彈劾案彈劾人數跟五屆比起來也都是增加的我不好提出個案啦我不提出這些社會上重大案件其實民眾都知道翻翻你去google或者是新聞查一查都知道其實執行情況都不佳啦很多民眾的陳情以及甚至這個社會上的重大案件所以我們希望啦你如果\n\n18\n00:06:02,437 --> 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