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00:01:40,801\n今天的問題是以前騙騙錢就算了現在還騙不出了騙錢之外還叫你去把房子抵押叫你去拿車子貸款接下去就是不但錢被騙光了然後還負債累累最後就是家破人亡打砸專法在一年前我們在這裡通過也設立了專案辦公室也做了非常非常多的預算跟宣導\n\n5\n00:01:42,065 --> 00:01:57,436\n行政院跟法務部司法院對打詐專法信誓旦旦說會降低所有的詐騙的案件但是我們看到這一年來越打越詐而且越來越嚴重\n\n6\n00:01:59,017 --> 00:02:17,379\n現在有地面師有這種另外透過融資的方式再去進行更進一步的詐騙這才是今天詐騙越來越猖獗的原因所以當人民沒有辦法保護自己政府也保護不了人民我們的行政院到底在做什麼\n\n7\n00:02:18,180 --> 00:02:32,523\n一年前我們通過的詐欺犯罪危害防治條例第47條裡面針對詐騙集團他如果自白或繳交犯罪所得可以減刑但是這一年在法院的實務案例裡面\n\n8\n00:02:33,969 --> 00:02:59,767\n從刑事庭一般的法院甚至到最高法院的法庭裡面都有不同的見解法務部跟立法院的立法意旨非常的明確如果你要繳出所謂的犯罪所得是要補償被害人的損失可是我們的法院竟然可以單純的認為說這麼保守的認為說只要賠償車手他得到的那幾千塊的所得他就可以減刑\n\n9\n00:03:00,447 --> 00:03:25,087\n所以整整一年在法院這些車手只要說他只收到三千塊他只要補償三千塊他就可以減刑從法務部到司法院一年來針對這個事情毫無作為甚至要到刑事大法庭做出統一見解推翻了立法院的立法議職推翻了法務部當時在立法院信誓旦旦的要求\n\n10\n00:03:25,908 --> 00:03:47,117\n被害人要優先補償的這樣的目標竟然在我們的行政部門跟我們的法院完全完全沒有打沒有辦法達成共識行政院法務部司法院到今天為止都還在睡在睡什麼5月14號其實大法庭是做出解釋了法務部長說要修法\n\n11\n00:03:48,237 --> 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