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00:00:11,135\n謝謝召委,陽泉發言,邀請部長\n\n2\n00:00:26,266 --> 00:00:36,993\n謝謝部長我們來討論今天本期的提案社福法第11條現今幾戶調整的這個時間那我們據110年到112年CPI年增率分別是1.972.952.49那食物類的漲幅更高達2.455.66%4.03%那顯見民生物價年年上漲\n\n3\n00:00:55,166 --> 00:01:17,145\n那侵蝕到經濟弱勢族群的一個實質生活的能力所以本席具體建議在提案社會做出法第十一條的規定現金給付金額每四年調整一次調整條幅與物價的波動呢它是嚴重的脫鉤而且跟我們憲法\n\n4\n00:01:17,805 --> 00:01:44,632\n保障弱勢的基本精神背道而馳所以本席等21人我們共同提案希望將社會救助法我們調整的時間由4年來改為2年以營運社會的一個樣態請教部長是我想委員的建議我們覺得我們支持支持好那你就同意由4年改為2年嗎\n\n5\n00:01:46,783 --> 00:02:04,116\n我沒有往這方面來研議往這方面來研議嘛所以換句話就是同意由目前的現行的四年調整為兩年來調整一次方向大家是雷同的那現在要請教實踐具體\n\n6\n00:02:05,339 --> 00:02:20,620\n包委那個我想確實啦我們那個最近的通膨我想這個變動率確實相當大現在目前雖然說法現在目前說四年我想如果大家有共識的話我想這個來說的我覺得確實也是可以來好謝謝你\n\n7\n00:02:22,041 --> 00:02:35,290\n暫同縮短由四年改為兩年所以我在這邊也要具體部長在這邊因為訊息萬變這個我本期要建議也就是說在整個動態的檢討\n\n8\n00:02:37,731 --> 00:02:54,826\n跟應變的機制你要怎麼樣去確保救助金額與民生物價脫鉤的落差不要再大這個也就是我們提案大家非常認同的一個方向這個務必也要請你們去研擬出來你隨時的動態檢討跟應變的機制檢討出來給本席\n\n9\n00:03:00,951 --> 00:03:21,416\n那我要謝謝你同意本席所提出的社會救助法第11條的現金給付的部分由目前4年我們調整為2年來修改一次接下來本席要跟你討論的也就是狼醫的問題那我們看到7月5號的報導這樣子的事件振興婦產科醫師社性侵招通緝氣包潛逃\n\n10\n00:03:28,078 --> 00:03:42,075\n這個行為介入了狼醫問題的制度失能嚴重的去侵害到整個病患的一個權利那衛護部你承諾規劃狼醫查詢平台\n\n11\n00:03:42,847 --> 00:04:08,478\n你至今一再跳票從一月份你允諾三個月內要研議到了五月份我們再問你說你再保證一個月內要提出規劃現在又過了你一跳再跳票部長以你的個性不應當是如此啊請教目前社會看不到任何具體的一個進展什麼時候會設立請做說明\n\n12\n00:04:14,085 --> 00:04:40,441\n包委員我們依據對於不當這些行為我們是痛非常的痛恨非常痛恨也是全民非常痛恨那既然是全民共識為什麼會做不出來呢那我們所有的成器一定也是要合法來討論所以我們在你是主責單位啊你已經跳票兩次你到底什麼時候要成法要執行出\n\n13\n00:04:42,242 --> 00:04:58,818\n除了我們內部一直討論以外我們5月29號也邀請相關的司署來徹底這個性別事件揭露的可行性那考量到性別事件的種類多元且牽涉到不同主管機關的前者所以現在現階段優先來討論歸納\n\n14\n00:05:02,162 --> 00:05:09,047\n處理依法可公開的資訊譬如說判決書這個部分也有跟司法目前在駕駛依法可公開嘛你5月29號你沒有去做討論縮小了這個範圍認為依法可公開的必須要揭露在這個平台我們已經接下司法院並做討論相關執行的細節那當然最重要就是\n\n15\n00:05:26,522 --> 00:05:45,493\n要有法源嘛那另外要在既然法源在合法的情況之下當然我們要保護當事人這當事人當然也包括受害人跟加害人所以在判判決位三位判決前的確是我們要有一個法源來處理所以在這邊請教部長民眾病患要擁有他最基本的一個知情保障跟就醫的安全網\n\n16\n00:05:55,619 --> 00:06:24,405\n這個是民眾最基本的一個要求這是政府必須要給民眾的就醫安全我在醫療廠醫40年其實已經用盡了比如說我們一定要護理師在場每個醫院或者是說我們整體的同屬這個都規定的非常嚴格所以在就醫的安全性當然我們也要特別提醒說假設你在做比較特別的一個進一步的檢查的時候當然\n\n17\n00:06:26,185 --> 00:06:51,925\n我們希望民眾也注意一下真的有沒有保護得很好譬如說整個環境還有沒有護理師但是我們嚴格是要求如果沒有按照這樣子是要受罰的啦我們要一師懲你稍稍有一點激動的回答代表著你來一切你也非常痛恨這樣的一個情勢發生對不對我不容非常非常少數的來不容嗎\n\n18\n00:06:53,185 --> 00:07:01,770\n幾十年百年來台灣醫界投入對呀我們醫界的光榮你不能因為少數人嚴重的影響到嗎我們一定要讓民眾就醫安全對所以讓醫病信任跟專業的倫理我相信我們不容許翻盤這一定要堅守嘛所以再一次請教你的這個平台什麼時候可以設立\n\n19\n00:07:23,897 --> 00:07:27,604\n請教我們在合法的情況下我們會公佈可公佈的資訊\n\n20\n00:07:33,917 --> 00:07:55,394\n可公布的資訊請問什麼時候因為國外也已經有這些的查詢這個方案都有那請教你也非常的痛恨我們不希望因為少數人引起影響到我們整個醫界醫界也是我們非常非常的尊敬但是既然有這樣的現象我們應該你從一月份答應三個月再從五月份答應一個月一直在研議\n\n21\n00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,727\n到底什麼時候你可以將這個平台來設立民眾要問的是這個\n\n22\n00:08:12,512 --> 00:08:32,100\n委員報告我們目前進行的進度是正在跟司法院接洽我們的資訊要怎麼直接的借接那如果順利的話我們希望能夠一個月內來完成跟司法院這個彼此的資料的互通然後希望能夠以這個為目標來完成謝謝\n\n23\n00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:52,966\n所以換句話說您說的狼醫查詢平台在你一個月跟司法你的進度在討論那討論好之後就可以成立我這麼解讀是正確的嗎我們的目標是這樣的所以你的目標現在是7月份換句話說你在8月份的時候就可以公佈是不是\n\n24\n00:08:53,746 --> 00:09:14,577\n加油我們期待之加油期待之還有就醫的安全絕對是醫療體系所堅持你來這一屆你一定會維護嘛對不對我們大家一起加油嘛好謝謝再給我一分鐘時間喔那請叫那個勞動部發展署部長你請回謝謝謝謝你\n\n25\n00:09:24,509 --> 00:09:45,257\n監察院監察院我們發覺到這個調查我覺得很難過我們的勞發署青年職癌發展中心推動12年的事辦我從來沒有看過一個政府的政策計畫是事辦12年而且還經過\n\n26\n00:09:51,062 --> 00:10:09,488\n這個監察院的調查為什麼大家都要支持我們的青年支持青年的就業輔導我們青年的就業讓我們的孩子可以好好的就業安心的就業這是我們一再的推動政府部門竟然來一個事半12年\n\n27\n00:10:10,968 --> 00:10:27,676\n我們要請問到底我們在這個示範當中每一年沒有提出報告檢討如何的增長嗎我們的參與率就業率失業率針對於年輕人的部分我們到底要怎麼改善看不到你們的內容竟然還要由監察院來做調查這怎麼回事啊每一年將近一億的經費來輔導\n\n28\n00:10:39,847 --> 00:10:59,950\n有一個事辦叫做12年的事辦本席不解請做說明跟委員報告一下其實我們青年職業發展中心只是我們促進青年就業服務裡面的一部分一個部分一個指向就如此難怪我們的青年不知所措\n\n29\n00:11:01,127 --> 00:11:29,030\n報告委員我們在整個投資青年方案裡面有第一期到第二期這幾年的青年的失業率都是逐年下降甚至也來到了低點那親子計畫的這個案子經過監察院的這個調查之後我們也在積極的在做一些討論跟檢討那近期也會在跟監察院那邊再一次請教哪有一個政府的政策是事半十二年在經過監察院的一個糾舉\n\n30\n00:11:31,124 --> 00:11:39,791\n要怎麼改善還是繼續事辦嗎要怎麼改善我們會來檢討會來檢討是什麼呢會來檢討是什麼12年的事辦這個政府到底出了什麼事啊好\n\n31\n00:11:50,575 --> 00:12:17,257\n所以本席具體建議12年的事辦不應當繼續如此拿出你們的方案不應當停滯不前你必須要有具體的作為能夠確保我們整個的經費在投入能夠真正的帶動整個青年的一個就業率這是我們基本的要求啊你多久時間可以把具體方案給本席\n\n32\n00:12:19,646 --> 00:12:39,797\n這個我補充一下之前有特別排這樣的專案報告他們的部長是有在委員會承諾從那天算起應該剩下不到兩個禮拜他們要提出這個相關的一些修正請問謝謝張偉的說明請問部會什麼時候可以提出方案就依照部長之前承諾的期限什麼時候你主席是指到現在部長什麼時候都不知道這個讓我們怎麼聽聞啊\n\n33\n00:12:49,195 --> 00:13:12,200\n就兩個禮拜就兩個禮拜換句話說在七月的這個第三個禮拜可以提出方案現在有在檢討可以提出方案現在已經有在檢討七月份的第三個禮拜提出具體方案加油讓我們的孩子可以放心好嗎謝謝好謝謝永遠謝謝我提醒是不能提出\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n8992\t11135\t謝謝召委,陽泉發言,邀請部長\n26266\t36993\t謝謝部長我們來討論今天本期的提案社福法第11條現今幾戶調整的這個時間那我們據110年到112年CPI年增率分別是1.97 2.95 2.49那食物類的漲幅更高達2.455.66% 4.03%那顯見民生物價年年上漲\n55166\t77145\t那侵蝕到經濟弱勢族群的一個實質生活的能力所以本席具體建議在提案社會做出法第十一條的規定現金給付金額每四年調整一次調整條幅與物價的波動呢它是嚴重的脫鉤而且跟我們憲法\n77805\t104632\t保障弱勢的基本精神背道而馳所以本席等21人我們共同提案希望將社會救助法我們調整的時間由4年來改為2年以營運社會的一個樣態請教部長是 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所以讓醫病信任跟專業的倫理我相信我們不容許翻盤這一定要堅守嘛所以再一次請教你的這個平台什麼時候可以設立\n443897\t447604\t請教我們在合法的情況下我們會公佈可公佈的資訊\n453917\t475394\t可公布的資訊請問什麼時候因為國外也已經有這些的查詢這個方案都有那請教你也非常的痛恨我們不希望因為少數人引起影響到我們整個醫界醫界也是我們非常非常的尊敬但是既然有這樣的現象我們應該你從一月份答應三個月再從五月份答應一個月一直在研議\n483080\t485727\t到底什麼時候你可以將這個平台來設立民眾要問的是這個\n492512\t512100\t委員報告我們目前進行的進度是正在跟司法院接洽我們的資訊要怎麼直接的借接那如果順利的話我們希望能夠一個月內來完成跟司法院這個彼此的資料的互通然後希望能夠以這個為目標來完成謝謝\n513320\t532966\t所以換句話說您說的狼醫查詢平台在你一個月跟司法你的進度在討論那討論好之後就可以成立我這麼解讀是正確的嗎我們的目標是這樣的所以你的目標現在是7月份換句話說你在8月份的時候就可以公佈是不是\n533746\t554577\t加油 我們期待之加油 期待之還有就醫的安全 絕對是醫療體系所堅持你來這一屆你一定會維護嘛 對不對我們大家一起加油嘛好 謝謝再給我一分鐘時間喔那請叫那個勞動部發展署部長你請回 謝謝謝謝你\n564509\t585257\t監察院監察院我們發覺到這個調查我覺得很難過我們的勞發署青年職癌發展中心推動12年的事辦我從來沒有看過一個政府的政策計畫是事辦12年而且還經過\n591062\t609488\t這個監察院的調查為什麼大家都要支持我們的青年支持青年的就業 輔導我們青年的就業讓我們的孩子可以好好的就業 安心的就業這是我們一再的推動政府部門竟然來一個事半12年\n610968\t627676\t我們要請問到底我們在這個示範當中每一年沒有提出報告檢討如何的增長嗎我們的參與率就業率失業率針對於年輕人的部分我們到底要怎麼改善看不到你們的內容竟然還要由監察院來做調查這怎麼回事啊每一年將近一億的經費來輔導\n639847\t659950\t有一個事辦叫做12年的事辦本席不解 請做說明跟委員報告一下其實我們青年職業發展中心只是我們促進青年就業服務裡面的一部分一個部分一個指向就如此難怪我們的青年不知所措\n661127\t689030\t報告委員我們在整個投資青年方案裡面有第一期到第二期這幾年的青年的失業率都是逐年下降甚至也來到了低點那親子計畫的這個案子經過監察院的這個調查之後我們也在積極的在做一些討論跟檢討那近期也會在跟監察院那邊再一次請教哪有一個政府的政策是事半十二年在經過監察院的一個糾舉\n691124\t699791\t要怎麼改善還是繼續事辦嗎要怎麼改善我們會來檢討會來檢討是什麼呢會來檢討是什麼12年的事辦這個政府到底出了什麼事啊好\n710575\t737257\t所以本席具體建議12年的事辦不應當繼續如此拿出你們的方案不應當停滯不前你必須要有具體的作為能夠確保我們整個的經費在投入能夠真正的帶動整個青年的一個就業率這是我們基本的要求啊你多久時間可以把具體方案給本席\n739646\t759797\t這個我補充一下 之前有特別排這樣的專案報告他們的部長是有在委員會承諾從那天算起應該剩下不到兩個禮拜他們要提出這個相關的一些修正請問謝謝張偉的說明 請問部會 什麼時候可以提出方案就依照部長之前承諾的期限什麼時候你主席是指到現在 部長什麼時候都不知道這個讓我們怎麼聽聞啊\n769195\t792200\t就兩個禮拜就兩個禮拜換句話說在七月的這個第三個禮拜可以提出方案現在有在檢討可以提出方案現在已經有在檢討七月份的第三個禮拜提出具體方案加油讓我們的孩子可以放心好嗎謝謝好謝謝永遠謝謝我提醒是不能提出\n","txt":"謝謝召委,陽泉發言,邀請部長\n謝謝部長我們來討論今天本期的提案社福法第11條現今幾戶調整的這個時間那我們據110年到112年CPI年增率分別是1.97 2.95 2.49那食物類的漲幅更高達2.455.66% 4.03%那顯見民生物價年年上漲\n那侵蝕到經濟弱勢族群的一個實質生活的能力所以本席具體建議在提案社會做出法第十一條的規定現金給付金額每四年調整一次調整條幅與物價的波動呢它是嚴重的脫鉤而且跟我們憲法\n保障弱勢的基本精神背道而馳所以本席等21人我們共同提案希望將社會救助法我們調整的時間由4年來改為2年以營運社會的一個樣態請教部長是 我想委員的建議我們覺得我們支持支持好那你就同意由4年改為2年嗎\n我沒有往這方面來研議往這方面來研議嘛所以換句話就是同意由目前的現行的四年調整為兩年來調整一次方向大家是雷同的那現在要請教實踐具體\n包委那個我想確實啦我們那個最近的通膨我想這個變動率確實相當大現在目前雖然說法現在目前說四年我想如果大家有共識的話我想這個來說的我覺得確實也是可以來好謝謝你\n暫同縮短由四年改為兩年所以我在這邊也要具體部長在這邊因為訊息萬變這個我本期要建議也就是說在整個動態的檢討\n跟應變的機制你要怎麼樣去確保救助金額與民生物價脫鉤的落差不要再大這個也就是我們提案大家非常認同的一個方向這個務必也要請你們去研擬出來你隨時的動態檢討跟應變的機制檢討出來給本席\n那我要謝謝你同意本席所提出的社會救助法第11條的現金給付的部分由目前4年我們調整為2年來修改一次接下來本席要跟你討論的也就是狼醫的問題那我們看到7月5號的報導這樣子的事件振興婦產科醫師社性侵招通緝 氣包潛逃\n這個行為介入了狼醫問題的制度失能嚴重的去侵害到整個病患的一個權利那衛護部你承諾規劃狼醫查詢平台\n你至今一再跳票從一月份你允諾三個月內要研議到了五月份我們再問你說你再保證一個月內要提出規劃現在又過了你一跳再跳票部長以你的個性不應當是如此啊請教目前社會看不到任何具體的一個進展什麼時候會設立請做說明\n包委員我們依據對於不當這些行為我們是痛 非常的痛恨非常痛恨也是全民非常痛恨那既然是全民共識為什麼會做不出來呢那我們所有的成器一定也是要合法來討論所以我們在你是主責單位啊你已經跳票兩次你到底什麼時候要成法要執行出\n除了我們內部一直討論以外我們5月29號也邀請相關的司署來徹底這個性別事件揭露的可行性那考量到性別事件的種類多元且牽涉到不同主管機關的前者所以現在現階段優先來討論歸納\n處理依法可公開的資訊 譬如說判決書這個部分也有跟司法 目前在駕駛依法可公開嘛 你5月29號你沒有去做討論縮小了這個範圍 認為依法可公開的必須要揭露在這個平台我們已經接下司法院 並做討論相關執行的細節那當然最重要就是\n要有法源嘛那另外要在既然法源在合法的情況之下當然我們要保護當事人這當事人當然也包括受害人跟加害人所以在判判決位三位判決前的確是我們要有一個法源來處理所以在這邊請教部長民眾病患要擁有他最基本的一個知情保障跟就醫的安全網\n這個是民眾最基本的一個要求這是政府必須要給民眾的就醫安全我在醫療廠醫40年其實已經用盡了比如說我們一定要護理師在場每個醫院或者是說我們整體的同屬這個都規定的非常嚴格所以在就醫的安全性當然我們也要特別提醒說假設你在做比較特別的一個進一步的檢查的時候當然\n我們希望民眾也注意一下真的有沒有保護得很好譬如說整個環境還有沒有護理師但是我們嚴格是要求如果沒有按照這樣子是要受罰的啦我們要一師懲你稍稍有一點激動的回答代表著你來一切你也非常痛恨這樣的一個情勢發生對不對我不容非常非常少數的來不容嗎\n幾十年 百年來 台灣醫界投入對呀 我們醫界的光榮你不能因為少數人嚴重的影響到嗎我們一定要讓民眾就醫安全對 所以讓醫病信任跟專業的倫理我相信我們不容許翻盤這一定要堅守嘛所以再一次請教你的這個平台什麼時候可以設立\n請教我們在合法的情況下我們會公佈可公佈的資訊\n可公布的資訊請問什麼時候因為國外也已經有這些的查詢這個方案都有那請教你也非常的痛恨我們不希望因為少數人引起影響到我們整個醫界醫界也是我們非常非常的尊敬但是既然有這樣的現象我們應該你從一月份答應三個月再從五月份答應一個月一直在研議\n到底什麼時候你可以將這個平台來設立民眾要問的是這個\n委員報告我們目前進行的進度是正在跟司法院接洽我們的資訊要怎麼直接的借接那如果順利的話我們希望能夠一個月內來完成跟司法院這個彼此的資料的互通然後希望能夠以這個為目標來完成謝謝\n所以換句話說您說的狼醫查詢平台在你一個月跟司法你的進度在討論那討論好之後就可以成立我這麼解讀是正確的嗎我們的目標是這樣的所以你的目標現在是7月份換句話說你在8月份的時候就可以公佈是不是\n加油 我們期待之加油 期待之還有就醫的安全 絕對是醫療體系所堅持你來這一屆你一定會維護嘛 對不對我們大家一起加油嘛好 謝謝再給我一分鐘時間喔那請叫那個勞動部發展署部長你請回 謝謝謝謝你\n監察院監察院我們發覺到這個調查我覺得很難過我們的勞發署青年職癌發展中心推動12年的事辦我從來沒有看過一個政府的政策計畫是事辦12年而且還經過\n這個監察院的調查為什麼大家都要支持我們的青年支持青年的就業 輔導我們青年的就業讓我們的孩子可以好好的就業 安心的就業這是我們一再的推動政府部門竟然來一個事半12年\n我們要請問到底我們在這個示範當中每一年沒有提出報告檢討如何的增長嗎我們的參與率就業率失業率針對於年輕人的部分我們到底要怎麼改善看不到你們的內容竟然還要由監察院來做調查這怎麼回事啊每一年將近一億的經費來輔導\n有一個事辦叫做12年的事辦本席不解 請做說明跟委員報告一下其實我們青年職業發展中心只是我們促進青年就業服務裡面的一部分一個部分一個指向就如此難怪我們的青年不知所措\n報告委員我們在整個投資青年方案裡面有第一期到第二期這幾年的青年的失業率都是逐年下降甚至也來到了低點那親子計畫的這個案子經過監察院的這個調查之後我們也在積極的在做一些討論跟檢討那近期也會在跟監察院那邊再一次請教哪有一個政府的政策是事半十二年在經過監察院的一個糾舉\n要怎麼改善還是繼續事辦嗎要怎麼改善我們會來檢討會來檢討是什麼呢會來檢討是什麼12年的事辦這個政府到底出了什麼事啊好\n所以本席具體建議12年的事辦不應當繼續如此拿出你們的方案不應當停滯不前你必須要有具體的作為能夠確保我們整個的經費在投入能夠真正的帶動整個青年的一個就業率這是我們基本的要求啊你多久時間可以把具體方案給本席\n這個我補充一下 之前有特別排這樣的專案報告他們的部長是有在委員會承諾從那天算起應該剩下不到兩個禮拜他們要提出這個相關的一些修正請問謝謝張偉的說明 請問部會 什麼時候可以提出方案就依照部長之前承諾的期限什麼時候你主席是指到現在 部長什麼時候都不知道這個讓我們怎麼聽聞啊\n就兩個禮拜就兩個禮拜換句話說在七月的這個第三個禮拜可以提出方案現在有在檢討可以提出方案現在已經有在檢討七月份的第三個禮拜提出具體方案加油讓我們的孩子可以放心好嗎謝謝好謝謝永遠謝謝我提醒是不能提出\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.992 --> 00:11.135\n謝謝召委,陽泉發言,邀請部長\n\n00:26.266 --> 00:36.993\n謝謝部長我們來討論今天本期的提案社福法第11條現今幾戶調整的這個時間那我們據110年到112年CPI年增率分別是1.972.952.49那食物類的漲幅更高達2.455.66%4.03%那顯見民生物價年年上漲\n\n00:55.166 --> 01:17.145\n那侵蝕到經濟弱勢族群的一個實質生活的能力所以本席具體建議在提案社會做出法第十一條的規定現金給付金額每四年調整一次調整條幅與物價的波動呢它是嚴重的脫鉤而且跟我們憲法\n\n01:17.805 --> 01:44.632\n保障弱勢的基本精神背道而馳所以本席等21人我們共同提案希望將社會救助法我們調整的時間由4年來改為2年以營運社會的一個樣態請教部長是我想委員的建議我們覺得我們支持支持好那你就同意由4年改為2年嗎\n\n01:46.783 --> 02:04.116\n我沒有往這方面來研議往這方面來研議嘛所以換句話就是同意由目前的現行的四年調整為兩年來調整一次方向大家是雷同的那現在要請教實踐具體\n\n02:05.339 --> 02:20.620\n包委那個我想確實啦我們那個最近的通膨我想這個變動率確實相當大現在目前雖然說法現在目前說四年我想如果大家有共識的話我想這個來說的我覺得確實也是可以來好謝謝你\n\n02:22.041 --> 02:35.290\n暫同縮短由四年改為兩年所以我在這邊也要具體部長在這邊因為訊息萬變這個我本期要建議也就是說在整個動態的檢討\n\n02:37.731 --> 02:54.826\n跟應變的機制你要怎麼樣去確保救助金額與民生物價脫鉤的落差不要再大這個也就是我們提案大家非常認同的一個方向這個務必也要請你們去研擬出來你隨時的動態檢討跟應變的機制檢討出來給本席\n\n03:00.951 --> 03:21.416\n那我要謝謝你同意本席所提出的社會救助法第11條的現金給付的部分由目前4年我們調整為2年來修改一次接下來本席要跟你討論的也就是狼醫的問題那我們看到7月5號的報導這樣子的事件振興婦產科醫師社性侵招通緝氣包潛逃\n\n03:28.078 --> 03:42.075\n這個行為介入了狼醫問題的制度失能嚴重的去侵害到整個病患的一個權利那衛護部你承諾規劃狼醫查詢平台\n\n03:42.847 --> 04:08.478\n你至今一再跳票從一月份你允諾三個月內要研議到了五月份我們再問你說你再保證一個月內要提出規劃現在又過了你一跳再跳票部長以你的個性不應當是如此啊請教目前社會看不到任何具體的一個進展什麼時候會設立請做說明\n\n04:14.085 --> 04:40.441\n包委員我們依據對於不當這些行為我們是痛非常的痛恨非常痛恨也是全民非常痛恨那既然是全民共識為什麼會做不出來呢那我們所有的成器一定也是要合法來討論所以我們在你是主責單位啊你已經跳票兩次你到底什麼時候要成法要執行出\n\n04:42.242 --> 04:58.818\n除了我們內部一直討論以外我們5月29號也邀請相關的司署來徹底這個性別事件揭露的可行性那考量到性別事件的種類多元且牽涉到不同主管機關的前者所以現在現階段優先來討論歸納\n\n05:02.162 --> 05:09.047\n處理依法可公開的資訊譬如說判決書這個部分也有跟司法目前在駕駛依法可公開嘛你5月29號你沒有去做討論縮小了這個範圍認為依法可公開的必須要揭露在這個平台我們已經接下司法院並做討論相關執行的細節那當然最重要就是\n\n05:26.522 --> 05:45.493\n要有法源嘛那另外要在既然法源在合法的情況之下當然我們要保護當事人這當事人當然也包括受害人跟加害人所以在判判決位三位判決前的確是我們要有一個法源來處理所以在這邊請教部長民眾病患要擁有他最基本的一個知情保障跟就醫的安全網\n\n05:55.619 --> 06:24.405\n這個是民眾最基本的一個要求這是政府必須要給民眾的就醫安全我在醫療廠醫40年其實已經用盡了比如說我們一定要護理師在場每個醫院或者是說我們整體的同屬這個都規定的非常嚴格所以在就醫的安全性當然我們也要特別提醒說假設你在做比較特別的一個進一步的檢查的時候當然\n\n06:26.185 --> 06:51.925\n我們希望民眾也注意一下真的有沒有保護得很好譬如說整個環境還有沒有護理師但是我們嚴格是要求如果沒有按照這樣子是要受罰的啦我們要一師懲你稍稍有一點激動的回答代表著你來一切你也非常痛恨這樣的一個情勢發生對不對我不容非常非常少數的來不容嗎\n\n06:53.185 --> 07:01.770\n幾十年百年來台灣醫界投入對呀我們醫界的光榮你不能因為少數人嚴重的影響到嗎我們一定要讓民眾就醫安全對所以讓醫病信任跟專業的倫理我相信我們不容許翻盤這一定要堅守嘛所以再一次請教你的這個平台什麼時候可以設立\n\n07:23.897 --> 07:27.604\n請教我們在合法的情況下我們會公佈可公佈的資訊\n\n07:33.917 --> 07:55.394\n可公布的資訊請問什麼時候因為國外也已經有這些的查詢這個方案都有那請教你也非常的痛恨我們不希望因為少數人引起影響到我們整個醫界醫界也是我們非常非常的尊敬但是既然有這樣的現象我們應該你從一月份答應三個月再從五月份答應一個月一直在研議\n\n08:03.080 --> 08:05.727\n到底什麼時候你可以將這個平台來設立民眾要問的是這個\n\n08:12.512 --> 08:32.100\n委員報告我們目前進行的進度是正在跟司法院接洽我們的資訊要怎麼直接的借接那如果順利的話我們希望能夠一個月內來完成跟司法院這個彼此的資料的互通然後希望能夠以這個為目標來完成謝謝\n\n08:33.320 --> 08:52.966\n所以換句話說您說的狼醫查詢平台在你一個月跟司法你的進度在討論那討論好之後就可以成立我這麼解讀是正確的嗎我們的目標是這樣的所以你的目標現在是7月份換句話說你在8月份的時候就可以公佈是不是\n\n08:53.746 --> 09:14.577\n加油我們期待之加油期待之還有就醫的安全絕對是醫療體系所堅持你來這一屆你一定會維護嘛對不對我們大家一起加油嘛好謝謝再給我一分鐘時間喔那請叫那個勞動部發展署部長你請回謝謝謝謝你\n\n09:24.509 --> 09:45.257\n監察院監察院我們發覺到這個調查我覺得很難過我們的勞發署青年職癌發展中心推動12年的事辦我從來沒有看過一個政府的政策計畫是事辦12年而且還經過\n\n09:51.062 --> 10:09.488\n這個監察院的調查為什麼大家都要支持我們的青年支持青年的就業輔導我們青年的就業讓我們的孩子可以好好的就業安心的就業這是我們一再的推動政府部門竟然來一個事半12年\n\n10:10.968 --> 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人擬具\n「社會救助法第十一條條文修正草案」案；十九、委員羅智強等18人擬具「社會救助法第十一條\n及第十六條條文修正草案」案；二十、委員何欣純等17人擬具「社會救助法部分條文修正草案」\n案；二十一、委員劉建國等18人擬具「社會救助法部分條文修正草案」案；二十二、委員林楚茵\n等18人擬具「社會救助法第十六條條文修正草案」案；二十三、委員羅廷瑋等16人擬具「社會救\n助法部分條文修正草案」案；二十四、委員邱若華等17人擬具「社會救助法第十一條條文修正草\n案」案；二十五、委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「社會救助法第二十四條條文修正草案」案；二十六、\n委員吳沛憶等16 人擬具「社會救助法部分條文修正草案」案；二十七、委員邱鎮軍等 24 人擬具\n「社會救助法第五條之二條文修正草案」案；二十八、委員游顥等17人擬具「社會救助法第五條\n之一及第五條之二條文修正草案」案；二十九、委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「社會救助法第五條之二\n條文修正草案」案；三十、委員馬文君等16 人擬具「社會救助法第五條之二條文修正草案」案\n【僅詢答】","agenda_id":"1146604_00020"}}}