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00:02:34,359\n足以讓美方認定就是說我們是一個有誠意值得談的這個夥伴我想說已經談了這麼多次了嘛那談判的這個過程當中到底是朝正向樂觀的方向發展還是當中有一些什麼阻礙\n\n9\n00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:49,316\n到底因為很多國家都公布的這個推理那我們這麼晚在公布到底是好呢還是不好這個部分是因為有很多阻礙所以還需要談還是說其實其實很順利所以說還有很多細節需要再詳談這到底是一個怎麼樣的一個方向\n\n10\n00:02:51,218 --> 00:03:11,958\n樂觀嗎跟委員報告我們現在目前還沒有收到這個關稅信函但是如同我剛剛有稍微說明的這個關稅信函本身並不是各國的最終稅率所以不論台灣有沒有收到這個信函我們的目標都是在8月1號以前努力的在我們這個關鍵一里路上面跟美國進行衝刺進行我們最後的談判\n\n11\n00:03:12,618 --> 00:03:41,400\n目的就是在8月1號取得符合我們的產業跟國家利益的這個關稅所以我想現在有沒有收到信函都不代表我們現在跟美國談判的這個進展的情況但是我必須要強調的是我們實際上台美的談判團隊雙方都是肯認我們談判是有進展的因此我們也才會約定說我們要盡快在8月1號以前來把這個所有現在還沒有完成的議題\n\n12\n00:03:42,141 --> 00:03:44,678\n可以在8月1號完成進行我們的協議\n\n13\n00:03:45,689 --> 00:04:10,535\n所以基本上到目前為止談的其實還算是順利的意思嘛對不對是這樣子的方向是樂觀的是好那再來就是在台美關稅談判當中當然我也國人也很關心媒體也一直在報導就是有關於進口車跟保健食品的這部分消費者其實是非常的這個關心那像外界傳言就是說美方要求每次進口車整車的關稅是由現在的17.5%要一次降到2.5%或是\n\n14\n00:04:15,276 --> 00:04:16,917\n謝謝委員的這個提問我想這個問題呢就是屬於我們台灣跟美國之間這個國際談判動態的過程發展上中\n\n15\n00:04:31,241 --> 00:04:58,299\n可能都還是要保密的過程這是還要保密的部分那再來下面可能都是保密的部分本來我想要問的就是說像台灣我目前是採用聯合國歐洲經濟委員會的汽車安全的這個標準可是美國採用的是他們的這個美國聯邦車輛安全標準目前是不一樣的我本來想了解這個談判當中有沒有再提到這個部分未來是不是要放寬所以這個部分也不方便透露\n\n16\n00:04:59,619 --> 00:05:14,346\n具體議題本身我們當然不變透露但是我覺得我們可以回歸到美國在進行這個對等關稅談判的目的就是任何他覺得可以去擴大他的出口商機強化他的貿易競爭力的當然他都會想要進一步去討論但是我想台灣有台灣的堅持所以我們台灣依然會堅持我們要維護我們的產業跟國家利益那國民健康糧食安全都是我們在談判的基本原則\n\n17\n00:05:28,653 --> 00:05:50,060\n所以像這個保健食品也是一樣嘛像過去我們現在目前的進口關稅百分之三十那過去那個財政部呢說三月二十七號他曾經就提到就是說五年內要慢慢的緩降就降到百分之二十這看起來好像也是美國這方面應該也是蠻有意見的吧這應該也是在談判過程當中比較有阻礙的地方是不是\n\n18\n00:05:51,139 --> 00:06:06,221\n我想這個就是我剛才所提到的,我想美國基本上就是它可以強化它的出口競爭力的議題,它一定都有高度的興趣,但是每一個國家要訴求的目標是不同的,所以我想它就是一個持續討論中的議題。\n\n19\n00:06:07,677 --> 00:06:27,789\nOK好謝謝我再想真的很謝謝各位談判代表這段時間也真的是非常的辛苦了當然未來我們希望就是朝向就是說互惠互利然後呢以國家的最大利益作為談判最終的這個結果啦OK好以上謝謝請回座那再來我想請外交部陳明綺次長\n\n20\n00:06:39,624 --> 00:06:51,353\n市長早市長這次我們有看到巴西雖然是美國對巴西他的貿易是粗糙的可是呢我們就發現說呢他的稅率呢從剛開始的10%只是調升到50%跟一般經貿利益的邏輯其實是不符的\n\n21\n00:06:58,018 --> 00:07:19,786\n那當然川普他公開的理由就是說不滿巴西的前總統Polsonaro他遭到這個起訴那事實上呢外界也在推測說是因為川普政府是質疑巴西的反美立場剛剛有提到所謂的金磚國家的一些反美的這個言論所以造成這個這次雖然說巴西是美國的出超國\n\n22\n00:07:20,566 --> 00:07:29,873\n可是呢他的稅率呢居然調高到50%那當然我們也在擔心像國內其實也有一些反美論、疑美論這些會不會影響說我們在談判過程的一個障礙請問市長我們有這個疑慮\n\n23\n00:07:36,758 --> 00:08:05,290\n就我們的了解就是說當然台灣展現最大誠意然後在考量剛才所說的這個國家利益產業利益維護國人的這個健康以及這個糧食安全上面然後本著互惠互利的原則跟美方進行談判那我想這樣的一個誠意美方有充分的感受到我們在所有的關鍵的這個上面都已經有具體的一個進展那麼當然在整個時程上面談判貿易談判從來不是一個容易的事情\n\n24\n00:08:06,010 --> 00:08:15,265\n尤其在這個過去的時候可能是數年才能夠完成的貿易談判可能是要壓縮到這個幾個月的時間喔那麼還有很多的這個部分還帶雙方的溝通協商\n\n25\n00:08:17,373 --> 00:08:39,370\nOK好了解所以美方他是理解的理解說台灣政府的這個立場嘛對不對是OK好那當然我們在巴西其實還是有一些台商喔他們在那裡呢有像這個醫材的工廠啦或是電子零組件製造業等等那像這些巴西的台商會面臨一些困境喔像這部分的話台灣政府能做點什麼呢\n\n26\n00:08:40,211 --> 00:08:58,144\n那麼我們密切關注相關的這個東西,我們隨時也跟我們的這個海外的這個台商保持聯繫,那麼協助他們減緩相關的一個衝擊。那麼如果他們有覺得需要那麼轉移這個生產的這個位置的話,我們也會盡最大的努力來做協助。\n\n27\n00:08:58,684 --> 00:09:14,165\n比如說巴西遇到高額的關稅那如果有台商想要再遷移到比如說巴拉圭那我們會盡全力的協助現在我們在巴拉圭也有台巴智慧科學園區\n\n28\n00:09:16,047 --> 00:09:40,280\n所以我們是一個全球布局的狀況外交部在這個上面提供最大的一個協助那我們隨時跟台商有保持密切的溝通跟聯繫然後希望能夠協助我們台商面對到全球的政治經濟形勢的不確定性我們外交部可以提供相關的資訊協助台商來因應\n\n29\n00:09:42,461 --> 00:09:53,715\n是我們不但要關心台美之間的談判我們更要關心說我們台上所處的這些國家他們面臨的這些衝擊我想外交部這部分要多加用心OK好以上謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n490\t10645\t原慧心副總談判代表委員好\n12784\t36645\t副總代表好今天的詢答成如早上我們王定宇委員所提議的然後莊委也做了這個才是待會針對委員的這個詢答如果您覺得說這是跟這個機密有關係或是不方便在這個詢答台上面來說明的話就直接就說這不方便回答我們今天就秉持這個規則\n38607\t52743\t好 那從這個7月7號開始呢美國總統川普呢已經陸陸續續呢對25個以上的這個主要的貿易夥伴呢發布了最新的關稅通知函其中有包含了剛剛您所說的像日本、南海、馬來西亞等國\n54224\t68452\t然後這些國家的課徵的稅率但是介於百分之二十到百分之五十之間不等可是到目前為止確實就是美國對台灣的關稅稅率到目前為止都還沒有公佈那當然國人是非常非常的關注\n69873\t93005\t那我們也知道說從啟動對等這個關稅談判以來呢台美雙方我們也是進行了三次的這個實體的會談還有六次的線上的切磋跟這個溝通那剛剛你也提到就是說下次的這個實體會談呢已經有定定的時間請問這時間是落在什麼時候因為希望說八月一號就希望有一個結果嘛那現在呢下次的會談時間是在什麼時候\n95495\t116888\t我們剛才所提到的是說我們有初步約定了 下一次會再進行實體諮商但是我們當然這個期限 我也可以理解應該現在所有的各國都在排隊要跟美國進行談判所以我們就是努力在8月1號以前爭取跟美國不論各種形式就是要再進行諮商 目的就是要在8月1號以前達到協議\n118044\t138679\t因為現在已經7月16號,那可能還剩下兩個禮拜的時間我想這個數字也是屬於不方便回答的部分其實已經有一個確實的時間了,一定會在8月1號以前會進行一個試題8月1號是確定的時間那我們已經談了這麼多次,那台灣目前所提出的條件是不是\n139480\t154359\t足以讓美方認定就是說我們是一個有誠意值得談的這個夥伴我想說已經談了這麼多次了嘛那談判的這個過程當中到底是朝正向樂觀的方向發展還是當中有一些什麼阻礙\n155100\t169316\t到底因為很多國家都公布的這個推理那我們這麼晚在公布到底是好呢還是不好這個部分是因為有很多阻礙所以還需要談還是說其實其實很順利所以說還有很多細節需要再詳談這到底是一個怎麼樣的一個方向\n171218\t191958\t樂觀嗎跟委員報告我們現在目前還沒有收到這個關稅信函但是如同我剛剛有稍微說明的這個關稅信函本身並不是各國的最終稅率所以不論台灣有沒有收到這個信函我們的目標都是在8月1號以前努力的在我們這個關鍵一里路上面跟美國進行衝刺進行我們最後的談判\n192618\t221400\t目的就是在8月1號取得符合我們的產業跟國家利益的這個關稅所以我想現在有沒有收到信函都不代表我們現在跟美國談判的這個進展的情況但是我必須要強調的是我們實際上台美的談判團隊雙方都是肯認我們談判是有進展的因此我們也才會約定說我們要盡快在8月1號以前來把這個所有現在還沒有完成的議題\n222141\t224678\t可以在8月1號完成進行我們的協議\n225689\t250535\t所以基本上到目前為止談的其實還算是順利的意思嘛對不對是這樣子的方向是樂觀的是好那再來就是在台美關稅談判當中當然我也國人也很關心媒體也一直在報導就是有關於進口車跟保健食品的這部分消費者其實是非常的這個關心那像外界傳言就是說美方要求每次進口車整車的關稅是由現在的17.5%要一次降到2.5%或是\n255276\t256917\t謝謝委員的這個提問我想這個問題呢就是屬於我們台灣跟美國之間這個國際談判動態的過程發展上中\n271241\t298299\t可能都還是要保密的過程這是還要保密的部分那再來下面可能都是保密的部分本來我想要問的就是說像台灣我目前是採用聯合國歐洲經濟委員會的汽車安全的這個標準可是美國採用的是他們的這個美國聯邦車輛安全標準目前是不一樣的我本來想了解這個談判當中有沒有再提到這個部分未來是不是要放寬所以這個部分也不方便透露\n299619\t314346\t具體議題本身我們當然不變透露但是我覺得我們可以回歸到美國在進行這個對等關稅談判的目的就是任何他覺得可以去擴大他的出口商機強化他的貿易競爭力的當然他都會想要進一步去討論但是我想台灣有台灣的堅持所以我們台灣依然會堅持我們要維護我們的產業跟國家利益那國民健康糧食安全都是我們在談判的基本原則\n328653\t350060\t所以像這個保健食品也是一樣嘛像過去我們現在目前的進口關稅百分之三十那過去那個財政部呢說三月二十七號他曾經就提到就是說五年內要慢慢的緩降就降到百分之二十這看起來好像也是美國這方面應該也是蠻有意見的吧這應該也是在談判過程當中比較有阻礙的地方是不是\n351139\t366221\t我想這個就是我剛才所提到的,我想美國基本上就是它可以強化它的出口競爭力的議題,它一定都有高度的興趣,但是每一個國家要訴求的目標是不同的,所以我想它就是一個持續討論中的議題。\n367677\t387789\tOK 好 謝謝 我再想真的很謝謝各位談判代表這段時間也真的是非常的辛苦了當然未來我們希望就是朝向就是說互惠互利然後呢以國家的最大利益作為談判最終的這個結果啦OK 好 以上謝謝 請回座那再來我想請外交部陳明綺次長\n399624\t411353\t市長早市長這次我們有看到巴西雖然是美國對巴西他的貿易是粗糙的可是呢我們就發現說呢他的稅率呢從剛開始的10%只是調升到50%跟一般經貿利益的邏輯其實是不符的\n418018\t439786\t那當然川普他公開的理由就是說不滿巴西的前總統Polsonaro他遭到這個起訴那事實上呢外界也在推測說是因為川普政府是質疑巴西的反美立場剛剛有提到所謂的金磚國家的一些反美的這個言論所以造成這個這次雖然說巴西是美國的出超國\n440566\t449873\t可是呢他的稅率呢居然調高到50%那當然我們也在擔心像國內其實也有一些反美論、疑美論這些會不會影響說我們在談判過程的一個障礙請問市長我們有這個疑慮\n456758\t485290\t就我們的了解就是說當然台灣展現最大誠意然後在考量剛才所說的這個國家利益產業利益維護國人的這個健康以及這個糧食安全上面然後本著互惠互利的原則跟美方進行談判那我想這樣的一個誠意美方有充分的感受到我們在所有的關鍵的這個上面都已經有具體的一個進展那麼當然在整個時程上面談判貿易談判從來不是一個容易的事情\n486010\t495265\t尤其在這個過去的時候可能是數年才能夠完成的貿易談判可能是要壓縮到這個幾個月的時間喔那麼還有很多的這個部分還帶雙方的溝通協商\n497373\t519370\tOK 好了解 所以美方他是理解的 理解說台灣政府的這個立場嘛 對不對是 OK 好 那當然我們在巴西其實還是有一些台商喔他們在那裡呢 有像這個醫材的工廠啦 或是電子零組件製造業等等那像這些巴西的台商會面臨一些困境喔 像這部分的話 台灣政府能做點什麼呢\n520211\t538144\t那麼我們密切關注相關的這個東西,我們隨時也跟我們的這個海外的這個台商保持聯繫,那麼協助他們減緩相關的一個衝擊。那麼如果他們有覺得需要那麼轉移這個生產的這個位置的話,我們也會盡最大的努力來做協助。\n538684\t554165\t比如說巴西遇到高額的關稅那如果有台商想要再遷移到比如說巴拉圭那我們會盡全力的協助現在我們在巴拉圭也有台巴智慧科學園區\n556047\t580280\t所以我們是一個全球布局的狀況外交部在這個上面提供最大的一個協助那我們隨時跟台商有保持密切的溝通跟聯繫然後希望能夠協助我們台商面對到全球的政治經濟形勢的不確定性我們外交部可以提供相關的資訊協助台商來因應\n582461\t593715\t是 我們不但要關心台美之間的談判我們更要關心說我們台上所處的這些國家他們面臨的這些衝擊我想外交部這部分要多加用心OK 好 以上謝謝\n","txt":"原慧心副總談判代表委員好\n副總代表好今天的詢答成如早上我們王定宇委員所提議的然後莊委也做了這個才是待會針對委員的這個詢答如果您覺得說這是跟這個機密有關係或是不方便在這個詢答台上面來說明的話就直接就說這不方便回答我們今天就秉持這個規則\n好 那從這個7月7號開始呢美國總統川普呢已經陸陸續續呢對25個以上的這個主要的貿易夥伴呢發布了最新的關稅通知函其中有包含了剛剛您所說的像日本、南海、馬來西亞等國\n然後這些國家的課徵的稅率但是介於百分之二十到百分之五十之間不等可是到目前為止確實就是美國對台灣的關稅稅率到目前為止都還沒有公佈那當然國人是非常非常的關注\n那我們也知道說從啟動對等這個關稅談判以來呢台美雙方我們也是進行了三次的這個實體的會談還有六次的線上的切磋跟這個溝通那剛剛你也提到就是說下次的這個實體會談呢已經有定定的時間請問這時間是落在什麼時候因為希望說八月一號就希望有一個結果嘛那現在呢下次的會談時間是在什麼時候\n我們剛才所提到的是說我們有初步約定了 下一次會再進行實體諮商但是我們當然這個期限 我也可以理解應該現在所有的各國都在排隊要跟美國進行談判所以我們就是努力在8月1號以前爭取跟美國不論各種形式就是要再進行諮商 目的就是要在8月1號以前達到協議\n因為現在已經7月16號,那可能還剩下兩個禮拜的時間我想這個數字也是屬於不方便回答的部分其實已經有一個確實的時間了,一定會在8月1號以前會進行一個試題8月1號是確定的時間那我們已經談了這麼多次,那台灣目前所提出的條件是不是\n足以讓美方認定就是說我們是一個有誠意值得談的這個夥伴我想說已經談了這麼多次了嘛那談判的這個過程當中到底是朝正向樂觀的方向發展還是當中有一些什麼阻礙\n到底因為很多國家都公布的這個推理那我們這麼晚在公布到底是好呢還是不好這個部分是因為有很多阻礙所以還需要談還是說其實其實很順利所以說還有很多細節需要再詳談這到底是一個怎麼樣的一個方向\n樂觀嗎跟委員報告我們現在目前還沒有收到這個關稅信函但是如同我剛剛有稍微說明的這個關稅信函本身並不是各國的最終稅率所以不論台灣有沒有收到這個信函我們的目標都是在8月1號以前努力的在我們這個關鍵一里路上面跟美國進行衝刺進行我們最後的談判\n目的就是在8月1號取得符合我們的產業跟國家利益的這個關稅所以我想現在有沒有收到信函都不代表我們現在跟美國談判的這個進展的情況但是我必須要強調的是我們實際上台美的談判團隊雙方都是肯認我們談判是有進展的因此我們也才會約定說我們要盡快在8月1號以前來把這個所有現在還沒有完成的議題\n可以在8月1號完成進行我們的協議\n所以基本上到目前為止談的其實還算是順利的意思嘛對不對是這樣子的方向是樂觀的是好那再來就是在台美關稅談判當中當然我也國人也很關心媒體也一直在報導就是有關於進口車跟保健食品的這部分消費者其實是非常的這個關心那像外界傳言就是說美方要求每次進口車整車的關稅是由現在的17.5%要一次降到2.5%或是\n謝謝委員的這個提問我想這個問題呢就是屬於我們台灣跟美國之間這個國際談判動態的過程發展上中\n可能都還是要保密的過程這是還要保密的部分那再來下面可能都是保密的部分本來我想要問的就是說像台灣我目前是採用聯合國歐洲經濟委員會的汽車安全的這個標準可是美國採用的是他們的這個美國聯邦車輛安全標準目前是不一樣的我本來想了解這個談判當中有沒有再提到這個部分未來是不是要放寬所以這個部分也不方便透露\n具體議題本身我們當然不變透露但是我覺得我們可以回歸到美國在進行這個對等關稅談判的目的就是任何他覺得可以去擴大他的出口商機強化他的貿易競爭力的當然他都會想要進一步去討論但是我想台灣有台灣的堅持所以我們台灣依然會堅持我們要維護我們的產業跟國家利益那國民健康糧食安全都是我們在談判的基本原則\n所以像這個保健食品也是一樣嘛像過去我們現在目前的進口關稅百分之三十那過去那個財政部呢說三月二十七號他曾經就提到就是說五年內要慢慢的緩降就降到百分之二十這看起來好像也是美國這方面應該也是蠻有意見的吧這應該也是在談判過程當中比較有阻礙的地方是不是\n我想這個就是我剛才所提到的,我想美國基本上就是它可以強化它的出口競爭力的議題,它一定都有高度的興趣,但是每一個國家要訴求的目標是不同的,所以我想它就是一個持續討論中的議題。\nOK 好 謝謝 我再想真的很謝謝各位談判代表這段時間也真的是非常的辛苦了當然未來我們希望就是朝向就是說互惠互利然後呢以國家的最大利益作為談判最終的這個結果啦OK 好 以上謝謝 請回座那再來我想請外交部陳明綺次長\n市長早市長這次我們有看到巴西雖然是美國對巴西他的貿易是粗糙的可是呢我們就發現說呢他的稅率呢從剛開始的10%只是調升到50%跟一般經貿利益的邏輯其實是不符的\n那當然川普他公開的理由就是說不滿巴西的前總統Polsonaro他遭到這個起訴那事實上呢外界也在推測說是因為川普政府是質疑巴西的反美立場剛剛有提到所謂的金磚國家的一些反美的這個言論所以造成這個這次雖然說巴西是美國的出超國\n可是呢他的稅率呢居然調高到50%那當然我們也在擔心像國內其實也有一些反美論、疑美論這些會不會影響說我們在談判過程的一個障礙請問市長我們有這個疑慮\n就我們的了解就是說當然台灣展現最大誠意然後在考量剛才所說的這個國家利益產業利益維護國人的這個健康以及這個糧食安全上面然後本著互惠互利的原則跟美方進行談判那我想這樣的一個誠意美方有充分的感受到我們在所有的關鍵的這個上面都已經有具體的一個進展那麼當然在整個時程上面談判貿易談判從來不是一個容易的事情\n尤其在這個過去的時候可能是數年才能夠完成的貿易談判可能是要壓縮到這個幾個月的時間喔那麼還有很多的這個部分還帶雙方的溝通協商\nOK 好了解 所以美方他是理解的 理解說台灣政府的這個立場嘛 對不對是 OK 好 那當然我們在巴西其實還是有一些台商喔他們在那裡呢 有像這個醫材的工廠啦 或是電子零組件製造業等等那像這些巴西的台商會面臨一些困境喔 像這部分的話 台灣政府能做點什麼呢\n那麼我們密切關注相關的這個東西,我們隨時也跟我們的這個海外的這個台商保持聯繫,那麼協助他們減緩相關的一個衝擊。那麼如果他們有覺得需要那麼轉移這個生產的這個位置的話,我們也會盡最大的努力來做協助。\n比如說巴西遇到高額的關稅那如果有台商想要再遷移到比如說巴拉圭那我們會盡全力的協助現在我們在巴拉圭也有台巴智慧科學園區\n所以我們是一個全球布局的狀況外交部在這個上面提供最大的一個協助那我們隨時跟台商有保持密切的溝通跟聯繫然後希望能夠協助我們台商面對到全球的政治經濟形勢的不確定性我們外交部可以提供相關的資訊協助台商來因應\n是 我們不但要關心台美之間的談判我們更要關心說我們台上所處的這些國家他們面臨的這些衝擊我想外交部這部分要多加用心OK 好 以上謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.490 --> 00:10.645\n原慧心副總談判代表委員好\n\n00:12.784 --> 00:36.645\n副總代表好今天的詢答成如早上我們王定宇委員所提議的然後莊委也做了這個才是待會針對委員的這個詢答如果您覺得說這是跟這個機密有關係或是不方便在這個詢答台上面來說明的話就直接就說這不方便回答我們今天就秉持這個規則\n\n00:38.607 --> 00:52.743\n好那從這個7月7號開始呢美國總統川普呢已經陸陸續續呢對25個以上的這個主要的貿易夥伴呢發布了最新的關稅通知函其中有包含了剛剛您所說的像日本、南海、馬來西亞等國\n\n00:54.224 --> 01:08.452\n然後這些國家的課徵的稅率但是介於百分之二十到百分之五十之間不等可是到目前為止確實就是美國對台灣的關稅稅率到目前為止都還沒有公佈那當然國人是非常非常的關注\n\n01:09.873 --> 01:33.005\n那我們也知道說從啟動對等這個關稅談判以來呢台美雙方我們也是進行了三次的這個實體的會談還有六次的線上的切磋跟這個溝通那剛剛你也提到就是說下次的這個實體會談呢已經有定定的時間請問這時間是落在什麼時候因為希望說八月一號就希望有一個結果嘛那現在呢下次的會談時間是在什麼時候\n\n01:35.495 --> 01:56.888\n我們剛才所提到的是說我們有初步約定了下一次會再進行實體諮商但是我們當然這個期限我也可以理解應該現在所有的各國都在排隊要跟美國進行談判所以我們就是努力在8月1號以前爭取跟美國不論各種形式就是要再進行諮商目的就是要在8月1號以前達到協議\n\n01:58.044 --> 02:18.679\n因為現在已經7月16號,那可能還剩下兩個禮拜的時間我想這個數字也是屬於不方便回答的部分其實已經有一個確實的時間了,一定會在8月1號以前會進行一個試題8月1號是確定的時間那我們已經談了這麼多次,那台灣目前所提出的條件是不是\n\n02:19.480 --> 02:34.359\n足以讓美方認定就是說我們是一個有誠意值得談的這個夥伴我想說已經談了這麼多次了嘛那談判的這個過程當中到底是朝正向樂觀的方向發展還是當中有一些什麼阻礙\n\n02:35.100 --> 02:49.316\n到底因為很多國家都公布的這個推理那我們這麼晚在公布到底是好呢還是不好這個部分是因為有很多阻礙所以還需要談還是說其實其實很順利所以說還有很多細節需要再詳談這到底是一個怎麼樣的一個方向\n\n02:51.218 --> 03:11.958\n樂觀嗎跟委員報告我們現在目前還沒有收到這個關稅信函但是如同我剛剛有稍微說明的這個關稅信函本身並不是各國的最終稅率所以不論台灣有沒有收到這個信函我們的目標都是在8月1號以前努力的在我們這個關鍵一里路上面跟美國進行衝刺進行我們最後的談判\n\n03:12.618 --> 03:41.400\n目的就是在8月1號取得符合我們的產業跟國家利益的這個關稅所以我想現在有沒有收到信函都不代表我們現在跟美國談判的這個進展的情況但是我必須要強調的是我們實際上台美的談判團隊雙方都是肯認我們談判是有進展的因此我們也才會約定說我們要盡快在8月1號以前來把這個所有現在還沒有完成的議題\n\n03:42.141 --> 03:44.678\n可以在8月1號完成進行我們的協議\n\n03:45.689 --> 04:10.535\n所以基本上到目前為止談的其實還算是順利的意思嘛對不對是這樣子的方向是樂觀的是好那再來就是在台美關稅談判當中當然我也國人也很關心媒體也一直在報導就是有關於進口車跟保健食品的這部分消費者其實是非常的這個關心那像外界傳言就是說美方要求每次進口車整車的關稅是由現在的17.5%要一次降到2.5%或是\n\n04:15.276 --> 04:16.917\n謝謝委員的這個提問我想這個問題呢就是屬於我們台灣跟美國之間這個國際談判動態的過程發展上中\n\n04:31.241 --> 04:58.299\n可能都還是要保密的過程這是還要保密的部分那再來下面可能都是保密的部分本來我想要問的就是說像台灣我目前是採用聯合國歐洲經濟委員會的汽車安全的這個標準可是美國採用的是他們的這個美國聯邦車輛安全標準目前是不一樣的我本來想了解這個談判當中有沒有再提到這個部分未來是不是要放寬所以這個部分也不方便透露\n\n04:59.619 --> 05:14.346\n具體議題本身我們當然不變透露但是我覺得我們可以回歸到美國在進行這個對等關稅談判的目的就是任何他覺得可以去擴大他的出口商機強化他的貿易競爭力的當然他都會想要進一步去討論但是我想台灣有台灣的堅持所以我們台灣依然會堅持我們要維護我們的產業跟國家利益那國民健康糧食安全都是我們在談判的基本原則\n\n05:28.653 --> 05:50.060\n所以像這個保健食品也是一樣嘛像過去我們現在目前的進口關稅百分之三十那過去那個財政部呢說三月二十七號他曾經就提到就是說五年內要慢慢的緩降就降到百分之二十這看起來好像也是美國這方面應該也是蠻有意見的吧這應該也是在談判過程當中比較有阻礙的地方是不是\n\n05:51.139 --> 06:06.221\n我想這個就是我剛才所提到的,我想美國基本上就是它可以強化它的出口競爭力的議題,它一定都有高度的興趣,但是每一個國家要訴求的目標是不同的,所以我想它就是一個持續討論中的議題。\n\n06:07.677 --> 06:27.789\nOK好謝謝我再想真的很謝謝各位談判代表這段時間也真的是非常的辛苦了當然未來我們希望就是朝向就是說互惠互利然後呢以國家的最大利益作為談判最終的這個結果啦OK好以上謝謝請回座那再來我想請外交部陳明綺次長\n\n06:39.624 --> 06:51.353\n市長早市長這次我們有看到巴西雖然是美國對巴西他的貿易是粗糙的可是呢我們就發現說呢他的稅率呢從剛開始的10%只是調升到50%跟一般經貿利益的邏輯其實是不符的\n\n06:58.018 --> 07:19.786\n那當然川普他公開的理由就是說不滿巴西的前總統Polsonaro他遭到這個起訴那事實上呢外界也在推測說是因為川普政府是質疑巴西的反美立場剛剛有提到所謂的金磚國家的一些反美的這個言論所以造成這個這次雖然說巴西是美國的出超國\n\n07:20.566 --> 07:29.873\n可是呢他的稅率呢居然調高到50%那當然我們也在擔心像國內其實也有一些反美論、疑美論這些會不會影響說我們在談判過程的一個障礙請問市長我們有這個疑慮\n\n07:36.758 --> 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