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--> 00:02:17,429\n那昨天傍晚差不多4點56分的時候發生這個意外那現在正在加護病房急救中那目前為止當然我們看到除了透過葉克膜然後恢復他心跳之外然後透過低溫的處理我們希望他趕快的恢復意識那剛剛\n\n7\n00:02:18,690 --> 00:02:38,380\n委員所指導的這個部分包括在搶修的所謂的津貼的部分或是救助的部分是不是容我們經濟部回去再做投案的這個檢討那麻煩就是包含外包廠商的這些人員因為這次不是只是台電的人員全部都是在一起第一線去搶修\n\n8\n00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:57,435\n那除了這個之外那些同仁在山區搶秀的時候有些時候一待就是數十個小時那包含他的餐飲住宿條件都很克難所以如果可以的話可不可以把這些同仁第一線的同仁特別是在這個緊急專案的同仁他的津貼標準把這個也納入考量\n\n9\n00:02:58,576 --> 00:03:18,141\n因為就是山區部分其實是沒有休息的地方的那有的時候我看到有一些台電人員因為路況的關係那有的時候甚至還要做維修包含他們自己的車輛都出現問題所以這些如果都能夠劃入考量的話那我想對這些員工會有比較大的幫助是不是可以通案來處理一下\n\n10\n00:03:18,961 --> 00:03:37,919\n謝謝委員長這個我們通案來檢討我們在此也感謝很多的民間的包括旅館業者提供相關的住宿的地點給台電的搶修的員工那還有一點就是這一次在搶修的過程當中有些時候是道路道路的問題事先要排除\n\n11\n00:03:39,540 --> 00:04:06,467\n變成台電能源可能它的時間就變成一方面要排除路障一方面要排除各種狀況然後還要再去負責附電的工作所以未來是不是可以請經濟部跟國防部還有交通部就是有沒有辦法一個更完整的平台就是一出入的時候就是先把交通的部分立刻恢復之後台電能源就可以專注在它的本業未來在訓練演練的時候是不是可以請麻煩協調另外兩個部會\n\n12\n00:04:08,847 --> 00:04:19,978\n這次我們在災害應變的部分就依照委員的這個建議但是事實上因為它這次從嘉義直接登錄它的影響的程度\n\n13\n00:04:21,417 --> 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次長好 次長我延續剛才劉委員的這個針對電力 海電的同仁的部分我們在特別的希望說經濟部可以規劃特別的危險津貼還有這個激難救助金那因為我們在江南地區昨天應該是在晚上的時候有一位同仁那他也是因為遭受到這個很重要很重很重大的這個\n傷痛啦我們就是現在好像還在加護病房那我想這個也不是單一個案那在這種特別緊湊的形成之下那特別還有很多災民那都會很\n希望是台電盡快復原的時候所以台電的員工他當然是更硬硬的更努力的來去做修復那做修復的過程中他所造成的危險的佳績我是希望說經濟部這邊可以跟台電公司來討論一下特別是這次的專案喔因為已經連續數天快要10天了那這些台電人他們的休息的時間也相對的短喔那我是希望說經濟部可不可以跟台電公司就\n特別規劃危險津貼跟這個急難救助金就可以比過去的專案再多一些謝謝委員指導那昨天發生意外的這個台電的同仁他事實上他是連續的9天搶修他去搶修了嘉義的山區搶修完了之後到海線來支援\n那昨天傍晚差不多4點56分的時候發生這個意外那現在正在加護病房急救中那目前為止當然我們看到除了透過葉克膜然後恢復他心跳之外然後透過低溫的處理我們希望他趕快的恢復意識那剛剛\n委員所指導的這個部分包括在搶修的所謂的津貼的部分或是救助的部分是不是容我們經濟部回去再做投案的這個檢討那麻煩就是包含外包廠商的這些人員因為這次不是只是台電的人員全部都是在一起第一線去搶修\n那除了這個之外那些同仁在山區搶秀的時候有些時候一待就是數十個小時那包含他的餐飲住宿條件都很克難所以如果可以的話可不可以把這些同仁第一線的同仁特別是在這個緊急專案的同仁他的津貼標準把這個也納入考量\n因為就是山區部分其實是沒有休息的地方的那有的時候我看到有一些台電人員因為路況的關係那有的時候甚至還要做維修包含他們自己的車輛都出現問題所以這些如果都能夠劃入考量的話那我想對這些員工會有比較大的幫助是不是可以通案來處理一下\n謝謝委員長 這個我們通案來檢討我們在此也感謝很多的民間的 包括旅館業者提供相關的住宿的地點給台電的搶修的員工那還有一點 就是這一次在搶修的過程當中有些時候是道路道路的問題 事先要排除\n變成台電能源可能它的時間就變成一方面要排除路障一方面要排除各種狀況然後還要再去負責附電的工作所以未來是不是可以請經濟部跟國防部還有交通部就是有沒有辦法一個更完整的平台就是一出入的時候就是先把交通的部分立刻恢復之後台電能源就可以專注在它的本業未來在訓練演練的時候是不是可以請麻煩協調另外兩個部會\n這次我們在災害應變的部分就依照委員的這個建議但是事實上因為它這次從嘉義直接登錄它的影響的程度\n超乎我們的想像所以也感謝陳委員包括蔡益委員在這個中間幫我們去協調包括地方政府還有鄉鎮公所他做侵入的部分就不用浪費我們台電專業的這個機具或是人力去做這樣的一個事情好那這個吧這最後再請您再回去再檢討一下那最後我還是要講關於電纜地下化那電纜地下化在海區的話它有它的\n可能說第一個地層下陷第二個可能地下水那可能會導致他比較沒有辦法作為首要的考量但是現在在我們山區那其實他沒有上述的這些問題包含中浦鄉中浦鄉的我們地產地下化他目前是暫時停歌的狀態那主要是因為\n台電他們認為說現在如果是為了適容美觀它可能會把它排序往後面演但是問題是現在這一次的風災證明了說它不是美觀的問題它是有防災的功能性在那是不是針對沒有上述這些問題的地段來加速我們這樣子電能地下化然後把它的優先持續再往上提一點\n台電電網強韌計畫\n公司一起來努力好謝謝那最後針對環境部我簡單一個問題就好了部長好部長這一次的災後的清潔人員還有這些幸運的同仁我們當然是致上最高的敬意但是這一次的風災已經產生超過6萬噸災害廢棄戶這個數量其實已經超過我們嘉義永續循環中心好幾個月的處理量\n那我是想說針對這一次的部分這些清潔隊員他必須要加班加點所以能不能也是同剛才我們跟經濟部討論的部分一樣這次參與風災廢棄物的這些輕易的第一線人員有沒有提供額外的危險加急或者是特別的進貼\n因為那個按照地方自治法這個是屬於地方我知道這是涉及地方政府的人事權但是因為環境部作為中央主管機關是不是可以訂定災害清理人員特別津貼的指導原則來一個給地方政府一個方向不知道部長的看法是\n我們來研議一下啦好不好那這個部分就麻煩研議一下因為我們知道這是地方的權責但是中央作為指導機關的話他把它法制化的話可能會讓地方更加有機會來提供給這些輕運人員因為輕運人員他都有加班費啦\n我知道就算這次台電人員也有但是就是這次是連續10場10天甚至15天都還會有那所以這種長期在過勞的狀況之下那我認為這次要轉案啦轉案但是都是屬於行政院自己的職權所在我們提供建議包含經濟部跟環境部都可以加入考量好謝謝好謝謝好謝謝部長市長謝謝陳委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.289 --> 00:07.440\n陳冠廷委員質詢你好我們請經濟部\n\n00:17.591 --> 00:45.399\n好委員好次長好次長我延續剛才劉委員的這個針對電力海電的同仁的部分我們在特別的希望說經濟部可以規劃特別的危險津貼還有這個激難救助金那因為我們在江南地區昨天應該是在晚上的時候有一位同仁那他也是因為遭受到這個很重要很重很重大的這個\n\n00:47.891 --> 01:01.819\n傷痛啦我們就是現在好像還在加護病房那我想這個也不是單一個案那在這種特別緊湊的形成之下那特別還有很多災民那都會很\n\n01:03.380 --> 01:32.119\n希望是台電盡快復原的時候所以台電的員工他當然是更硬硬的更努力的來去做修復那做修復的過程中他所造成的危險的佳績我是希望說經濟部這邊可以跟台電公司來討論一下特別是這次的專案喔因為已經連續數天快要10天了那這些台電人他們的休息的時間也相對的短喔那我是希望說經濟部可不可以跟台電公司就\n\n01:33.399 --> 01:56.188\n特別規劃危險津貼跟這個急難救助金就可以比過去的專案再多一些謝謝委員指導那昨天發生意外的這個台電的同仁他事實上他是連續的9天搶修他去搶修了嘉義的山區搶修完了之後到海線來支援\n\n01:57.188 --> 02:17.429\n那昨天傍晚差不多4點56分的時候發生這個意外那現在正在加護病房急救中那目前為止當然我們看到除了透過葉克膜然後恢復他心跳之外然後透過低溫的處理我們希望他趕快的恢復意識那剛剛\n\n02:18.690 --> 02:38.380\n委員所指導的這個部分包括在搶修的所謂的津貼的部分或是救助的部分是不是容我們經濟部回去再做投案的這個檢討那麻煩就是包含外包廠商的這些人員因為這次不是只是台電的人員全部都是在一起第一線去搶修\n\n02:39.000 --> 02:57.435\n那除了這個之外那些同仁在山區搶秀的時候有些時候一待就是數十個小時那包含他的餐飲住宿條件都很克難所以如果可以的話可不可以把這些同仁第一線的同仁特別是在這個緊急專案的同仁他的津貼標準把這個也納入考量\n\n02:58.576 --> 03:18.141\n因為就是山區部分其實是沒有休息的地方的那有的時候我看到有一些台電人員因為路況的關係那有的時候甚至還要做維修包含他們自己的車輛都出現問題所以這些如果都能夠劃入考量的話那我想對這些員工會有比較大的幫助是不是可以通案來處理一下\n\n03:18.961 --> 03:37.919\n謝謝委員長這個我們通案來檢討我們在此也感謝很多的民間的包括旅館業者提供相關的住宿的地點給台電的搶修的員工那還有一點就是這一次在搶修的過程當中有些時候是道路道路的問題事先要排除\n\n03:39.540 --> 04:06.467\n變成台電能源可能它的時間就變成一方面要排除路障一方面要排除各種狀況然後還要再去負責附電的工作所以未來是不是可以請經濟部跟國防部還有交通部就是有沒有辦法一個更完整的平台就是一出入的時候就是先把交通的部分立刻恢復之後台電能源就可以專注在它的本業未來在訓練演練的時候是不是可以請麻煩協調另外兩個部會\n\n04:08.847 --> 04:19.978\n這次我們在災害應變的部分就依照委員的這個建議但是事實上因為它這次從嘉義直接登錄它的影響的程度\n\n04:21.417 --> 04:48.293\n超乎我們的想像所以也感謝陳委員包括蔡益委員在這個中間幫我們去協調包括地方政府還有鄉鎮公所他做侵入的部分就不用浪費我們台電專業的這個機具或是人力去做這樣的一個事情好那這個吧這最後再請您再回去再檢討一下那最後我還是要講關於電纜地下化那電纜地下化在海區的話它有它的\n\n04:49.494 --> 05:08.494\n可能說第一個地層下陷第二個可能地下水那可能會導致他比較沒有辦法作為首要的考量但是現在在我們山區那其實他沒有上述的這些問題包含中浦鄉中浦鄉的我們地產地下化他目前是暫時停歌的狀態那主要是因為\n\n05:10.336 --> 05:33.695\n台電他們認為說現在如果是為了適容美觀它可能會把它排序往後面演但是問題是現在這一次的風災證明了說它不是美觀的問題它是有防災的功能性在那是不是針對沒有上述這些問題的地段來加速我們這樣子電能地下化然後把它的優先持續再往上提一點\n\n05:34.400 --> 05:34.420\n台電電網強韌計畫\n\n06:04.360 --> 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