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專案加損的加成補助這個部分我希望可以帶回去來檢討因為除了我剛才提到說過去的這些成本在提高之外這十年來的成本在提高之外還有一些廢棄物的輕運用還有一些物價等等這些都必須要納入考量這是第二點那第三點就是也請農業部來檢討一下就是多年生的高經濟作物\n那我們剛才提到香蕉或者是其他的你或者是蔬菜葉類等等那些跟這種我們剛提到包含咖啡然後茶或者是荔枝龍眼樹葡萄等作物他們的概念是不一樣的那現在每公頃真正那些是5萬5到6萬兩千元不同的標準可是我希望這種補助可以反映在多年生的這個木本作物的真實災損這不是補助這是救助因為這是特別救助我們還是希望能夠來檢討因為\n有些是七年成素 十年成果那這次它是攔腰有些是攔腰 攔腰或許還有機會有些是整個年根拔起那等於是全面性的這十年都沒有辦法再去生產那這個問題我們去各個鄉鎮重番 鹿鄉 梅山鄉 中埔等等這個還是新港等等都有類似這樣子的問題出現所以再麻煩次長這個也能夠帶回去講\n因為未來性持續性的損失它不是一次的那之前部長來我們加一的時候也有提到說因為連續兩年的災損那現在可能會有尼龍草那為了避免這些尼龍草我剛才提到的從這個一般的這些果物這些果實作物到我們剛才提到的多年生的木本這些作物如果我們不給它一個\n最基本的救助的話我相信這個離農草是會出現的所以我還是要拜託農業部來盡快來去做這些類似的認定那再來就是關於災後貸款抱歉我今天要講比較快一點要再一次請那個次長來統一的回應\n災後的貸款包含六個月的免息我認為利益很好可是我們很多受災的農民他是在災前為了響應政府的政策來提升競爭力像是有時申請了像是輔導農糧這個經營貸款增生網試或者是申請農機貸款來去購買設備可是這些溫室農機等生產的這些工具在一夜之間基本上都成了廢鐵\n所以這個時候還是零收入但是還是要繼續來去償還這些既有貸款的利息所以這個部分政策型的這個相信災前已經申請的各種政策型的貸款是不是能夠比照災後貸款給至少半年的利息減免或者是還繳所以我知道這兩個貸款體系不同但是這是特例我們希望專案來處理可不可以至少給我們簡短的一些回應\n好 簡單三點回應就從最後面來看因為其實現在農損有損失很珠是它救的錢它不會等一下要再繳款不管是利息或是本金都有壓力所以我們現在正在研究就是說不管是到幾種會合作會\n現前借的 現在新借的我們都一致的把他拉長延緩或是免稅期限這樣對農民來說不太會穿開不然很嚴重第二點就是因為他現在就是沒收入嘛那沒收入怎麼辦呢在中間這段的專案補助這個我們也會來想辦法特別是長年生的他現時是正年不在他今年沒辦法收成每年也不知道什麼時候所以這段專案性的我們也會來處理那第三點就是委員第一個提到的\n現在最要緊的 協助農民趕快來親援也好 復援也好 加拿大現場創好後 會讓他們安心 這是第一要緊所以包括在那個 親運啦 協助這個 要協助我們的現場的人去做什麼 補助啦 有料啦 水電啦 這我們都會來做處理\n對 我最開始的問題是說一些像是一些香蕉這種大規模的作物我們會來專案我們專案來處理我們專案來處理專案來處理專案來處理就這一個專案好不好先專案我們先救急我們更快來謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.420 --> 00:06.802\n你好我們勤農業部\n\n00:13.757 --> 00:39.869\n市長好昨天有跟你談到關稅的部分今天先談救災然後我們再補充首先就是這一次我們是全品項這一次風災我們是全品項但是有一些特殊品項的養殖業他們對於一些全品項的一些細部內容可能不是認為說他們有沒有包含在裡面那都還會有一些問題所以這方面我們希望請農業部能夠先帶回去知道這件事情\n\n00:40.189 --> 00:58.620\n那我們其實辦公室已經有先跟農業部的專員先討論過了有一些比較特殊的品項羅類啊或者是少見的這些品項也是有實用性的那這個部分我們希望盡快有一個回應一般的縣府科長他們回應的時候也不太確定所以農業部可能要有一個比較清楚的部分\n\n00:59.981 --> 01:25.979\n然後第二個部分就是這一次像是包含香蕉美工請示救助是八萬元那這是用一般災損去估算的可是我必須要強調這過去十年來這十年來其實沒有什麼大大的變化可是物價已經有很大的變化也就是說這一次強風帶來毀滅性的破壞他們還是用一樣的這種方式去補償的話我覺得可能沒有辦法讓他們能夠去重建\n\n01:26.559 --> 01:39.733\n那一些交農來反映其實過去不管你說肥料啊成本啊資材啊已經至少是百分之一百五十跟過去幾年比較起來所以我是希望說可不可以在現行的額度之上針對當下是颱風啟動一次性的專案\n\n01:43.617 --> 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