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00:00:09,194\n好謝謝主席本席有請邱部長\n\n2\n00:00:14,085 --> 00:00:42,152\n委員好邱部長好辛苦了我們今天要特別來跟您談有關台美關稅談判所以台灣食品安全的相關影響那首先我想國人非常非常關心的就是有關我們在這一次的台美關稅談判中部長可不可以明確的來跟我們國人承諾\n\n3\n00:00:43,092 --> 00:01:00,992\n在整個的談判中我們不會放寬有關美豬或美牛含瘦肉精萊克多巴胺的標準不會放寬標準以及標示義務可不可以明確的來跟我們國人承諾\n\n4\n00:01:02,938 --> 00:01:30,233\n我想我們報告委員因為這個食安這個是絕對是我們衛福部要堅守的那食安的一個根據是在哪裡就是在一個科學的分析科學的根據還有依照國際的規範所以這個部分這是我們衛福部在堅守的那自己在談台美關稅的一個談判是不是有去接觸到這個部分談得怎麼樣因為他還在談\n\n5\n00:01:31,554 --> 00:01:56,725\n但是我們應該有我們的立場我相信我們談的成員一定很清楚一定很清楚我們跟我們衛福部一樣的一個立場你們有溝通過嗎?您跟我們代表談判的談判官代表台灣的你們有溝通過這塊嗎?應該是非常了解到我們國人的需求當然也要看看國家的發展\n\n6\n00:01:59,066 --> 00:02:16,161\n國人的需求食安的堅持因為他們很辛苦在堅持這幾個原則我覺得全國的民眾應該要支持這些談判的人在這幾個原則之下真的費盡了老金從國家的立場和食安的立場\n\n7\n00:02:17,222 --> 00:02:42,534\n那個因為我時間也有限我知道您會特別提這個國際標準就是國際還有科學數據那首先第一個您剛剛提到的我們要支持我們代表國家我們大家全國一體嘛那我們認同但是整個台美談判過程你看我們台積電先走了一步然後接著我們整個的關稅\n\n8\n00:02:44,015 --> 00:02:59,591\n稅率會多少目前還沒公佈但是我們民眾最基本最卑微的要求就是我們不能賠償去食安我們人民的健康還是最基本的所以您既然談到這個科學數據那我想世界各國\n\n9\n00:03:00,672 --> 00:03:14,157\n我們有關這個瘦肉精萊克多巴胺的標準大部分都是還是在0.01ppm以下所以這一次的談判我們希望我們整個的標準不要放寬您可不可以具體承諾\n\n10\n00:03:16,423 --> 00:03:21,346\n有關於訂定標準的部分對於全世界對於收入金的和國際的規範的確如您所言會有一些些的差異的存在\n\n11\n00:03:33,832 --> 00:03:47,084\n那但是不管是差異在哪裡都我們會回歸到我們的市民安全風險分析科學的基礎我們必須要針對我們的飲食對嘛我們目前是0.01ppm肌肉的部分然後內臟是0.04嘛\n\n12\n00:03:49,446 --> 00:04:10,984\n我的意思就是說經過這一次的台美關稅的談判我們不要放寬不可以再放寬了可以嗎其實我是希望部長承諾因為部長你都是你去開行政院會還有跟我們包括我們可能代表的副院長所以我們還是希望衛福部的立場就是要堅守\n\n13\n00:04:12,725 --> 00:04:38,604\n對針對這部分的話我特別提一下因為的確如院長如部長剛才提到的因為談判的過程中在最後的應該是在最後抽傷的階段那麼你看到新聞其實有三次的實體的談也有在媒體上其實有一部分的資訊大家因為它本身是所謂原始的國家所謂的NationalTrade貿易的評估美國所以公開的有很多的議題\n\n14\n00:04:39,625 --> 00:04:56,137\n那這個議題裡面我們針對這個談判的過程其實是不是在這邊我們要的是部長其實您的立場也讓我們民眾安心嘛我們要堅持標準不放寬還有我們的標示也不可以放寬\n\n15\n00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:20,891\n就是有關國內標示的義務也不要放寬還是跟委員報告我們食安一定是按照我們國委的習慣還有科學的分析還有一定是符合安全的規範這個是一定要堅持的然後再來因為台灣人跟美國人的飲食習慣不一樣他們不吃內臟我們台灣人很多人吃內臟所以\n\n16\n00:05:23,213 --> 00:05:32,126\n內臟又是殘存量特高的所以我還要特別強調因為這些民眾的期待我們希望衛福部替民眾把關\n\n17\n00:05:33,883 --> 00:05:59,929\n是的我們一定替民眾在食安的一個把關所以我們希望不知道也許聽說是8月1號整個公布的時候我們希望是不要讓民眾失望最後最後分析我們一定會保障民眾的食安健康好謝謝部長我們替民眾把關我們也全力挺您好那最後我想用一點點的時間就是近期國內的缺藥問題頻傳\n\n18\n00:06:01,969 --> 00:06:27,716\n那新補充錠長期缺貨短效型的胰島素供應也告急民眾用藥權益受損所以很多基層的藥師和專家都呼籲政府要積極備戰所以本席想請問衛福部是否已盤點國內必要藥品的供應現況是否還有對於單一來源或全數仰賴進口的藥品有沒有具體的應對計畫\n\n19\n00:06:29,176 --> 00:06:44,084\n是的我想我們國內的兩個方面一個是缺藥的一個機制因為剛剛您提的譬如說是短效性的胰島素這個都是必要的一個藥品所以它的缺藥的一個機制以及通知以及它的儲存我們都有這樣的機制\n\n20\n00:06:45,646 --> 00:07:01,816\n這個都有盤點第二個就是說我們還是要長年來講推動整個藥品的改革包括支持新藥在地的製造鼓勵國產的學名藥這兩個部分都是增加我們醫藥醫材韌性很重要的工作\n\n21\n00:07:02,216 --> 00:07:16,378\n很好這剛好也是我的問題就是說部長是不是可以提出明確的時程您剛剛講我們可以鼓勵我們國內藥廠自製一些關鍵藥品降低對進口的依賴有沒有明確的時程\n\n22\n00:07:21,724 --> 00:07:47,101\n市長報委員這邊在食藥署對這個規劃其實非常積極的在進行那這個整個計畫在2月就任以來其實對於學名藥廠原料藥廠及國內外的剛才提到的生物理事的用藥的藥廠都進一步的召集很多的相次委員非常精準的提到我們現在必須要建立更強的一個韌性方向那如果我們有更進一步的時間積極的在這邊辦理\n\n23\n00:07:49,723 --> 00:07:59,192\n應該要有明確的時程嘛我們有個目標有個時程才可以去依據來推動所以是不是會後提供給我們好嗎好的謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝好徐委員謝謝好謝謝徐委員謝謝部長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n7131\t9194\t好 謝謝主席 本席有請邱部長\n14085\t42152\t委員好邱部長好辛苦了我們今天要特別來跟您談有關台美關稅談判所以台灣食品安全的相關影響那首先我想國人非常非常關心的就是有關我們在這一次的台美關稅談判中部長可不可以明確的來跟我們國人承諾\n43092\t60992\t在整個的談判中我們不會放寬有關美豬或美牛含瘦肉精萊克多巴胺的標準不會放寬標準以及標示義務可不可以明確的來跟我們國人承諾\n62938\t90233\t我想我們報告委員因為這個食安這個是絕對是我們衛福部要堅守的那食安的一個根據是在哪裡就是在一個科學的分析科學的根據還有依照國際的規範所以這個部分這是我們衛福部在堅守的那自己在談台美關稅的一個談判是不是有去接觸到這個部分談得怎麼樣因為他還在談\n91554\t116725\t但是我們應該有我們的立場我相信我們談的成員一定很清楚一定很清楚我們跟我們衛福部一樣的一個立場你們有溝通過嗎?您跟我們代表談判的談判官代表台灣的你們有溝通過這塊嗎?應該是非常了解到我們國人的需求當然也要看看國家的發展\n119066\t136161\t國人的需求 食安的堅持因為他們很辛苦在堅持這幾個原則我覺得全國的民眾應該要支持這些談判的人在這幾個原則之下真的費盡了老金從國家的立場和食安的立場\n137222\t162534\t那個因為我時間也有限我知道您會特別提這個國際標準就是國際還有科學數據那首先第一個您剛剛提到的我們要支持我們代表國家我們大家全國一體嘛那我們認同但是整個台美談判過程你看我們台積電先走了一步然後接著我們整個的關稅\n164015\t179591\t稅率會多少目前還沒公佈但是我們民眾最基本最卑微的要求就是我們不能賠償去食安我們人民的健康還是最基本的所以您既然談到這個科學數據那我想世界各國\n180672\t194157\t我們有關這個瘦肉精萊克多巴胺的標準大部分都是還是在0.01ppm以下所以這一次的談判我們希望我們整個的標準不要放寬您可不可以具體承諾\n196423\t201346\t有關於訂定標準的部分對於全世界對於收入金的和國際的規範的確如您所言會有一些些的差異的存在\n213832\t227084\t那但是不管是差異在哪裡都我們會回歸到我們的市民安全風險分析科學的基礎我們必須要針對我們的飲食對嘛 我們目前是0.01ppm 肌肉的部分然後內臟是0.04嘛\n229446\t250984\t我的意思就是說經過這一次的台美關稅的談判我們不要放寬不可以再放寬了可以嗎其實我是希望部長承諾因為部長你都是你去開行政院會還有跟我們包括我們可能代表的副院長所以我們還是希望衛福部的立場就是要堅守\n252725\t278604\t對 針對這部分的話我特別提一下因為的確如院長 如部長剛才提到的因為談判的過程中在最後的 應該是在最後抽傷的階段那麼你看到新聞其實有三次的實體的談也有在媒體上其實有一部分的資訊大家因為它本身是所謂原始的國家所謂的National Trade貿易的評估美國所以公開的有很多的議題\n279625\t296137\t那這個議題裡面我們針對這個談判的過程其實是不是在這邊我們要的是部長其實您的立場也讓我們民眾安心嘛我們要堅持標準不放寬還有我們的標示也不可以放寬\n297840\t320891\t就是有關國內標示的義務也不要放寬還是跟委員報告我們食安一定是按照我們國委的習慣還有科學的分析還有一定是符合安全的規範這個是一定要堅持的然後再來因為台灣人跟美國人的飲食習慣不一樣他們不吃內臟我們台灣人很多人吃內臟所以\n323213\t332126\t內臟又是殘存量特高的所以我還要特別強調因為這些民眾的期待我們希望衛福部替民眾把關\n333883\t359929\t是的我們一定替民眾在食安的一個把關所以我們希望不知道也許聽說是8月1號整個公布的時候我們希望是不要讓民眾失望最後最後分析我們一定會保障民眾的食安健康好謝謝部長我們替民眾把關我們也全力挺您好那最後我想用一點點的時間就是近期國內的缺藥問題頻傳\n361969\t387716\t那新補充錠長期缺貨短效型的胰島素供應也告急民眾用藥權益受損所以很多基層的藥師和專家都呼籲政府要積極備戰所以本席想請問衛福部是否已盤點國內必要藥品的供應現況是否還有對於單一來源或全數仰賴進口的藥品有沒有具體的應對計畫\n389176\t404084\t是的我想我們國內的兩個方面一個是缺藥的一個機制因為剛剛您提的譬如說是短效性的胰島素這個都是必要的一個藥品所以它的缺藥的一個機制以及通知以及它的儲存我們都有這樣的機制\n405646\t421816\t這個都有盤點第二個就是說我們還是要長年來講推動整個藥品的改革包括支持新藥在地的製造鼓勵國產的學名藥這兩個部分都是增加我們醫藥醫材韌性很重要的工作\n422216\t436378\t很好這剛好也是我的問題就是說部長是不是可以提出明確的時程您剛剛講我們可以鼓勵我們國內藥廠自製一些關鍵藥品降低對進口的依賴有沒有明確的時程\n441724\t467101\t市長報委員這邊在食藥署對這個規劃其實非常積極的在進行那這個整個計畫在2月就任以來其實對於學名藥廠原料藥廠及國內外的剛才提到的生物理事的用藥的藥廠都進一步的召集很多的相次委員非常精準的提到我們現在必須要建立更強的一個韌性方向那如果我們有更進一步的時間積極的在這邊辦理\n469723\t479192\t應該要有明確的時程嘛我們有個目標有個時程才可以去依據來推動所以是不是會後提供給我們好嗎好的 謝謝 謝謝委員好 謝謝好 徐委員 謝謝好 謝謝徐委員 謝謝部長\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席 本席有請邱部長\n委員好邱部長好辛苦了我們今天要特別來跟您談有關台美關稅談判所以台灣食品安全的相關影響那首先我想國人非常非常關心的就是有關我們在這一次的台美關稅談判中部長可不可以明確的來跟我們國人承諾\n在整個的談判中我們不會放寬有關美豬或美牛含瘦肉精萊克多巴胺的標準不會放寬標準以及標示義務可不可以明確的來跟我們國人承諾\n我想我們報告委員因為這個食安這個是絕對是我們衛福部要堅守的那食安的一個根據是在哪裡就是在一個科學的分析科學的根據還有依照國際的規範所以這個部分這是我們衛福部在堅守的那自己在談台美關稅的一個談判是不是有去接觸到這個部分談得怎麼樣因為他還在談\n但是我們應該有我們的立場我相信我們談的成員一定很清楚一定很清楚我們跟我們衛福部一樣的一個立場你們有溝通過嗎?您跟我們代表談判的談判官代表台灣的你們有溝通過這塊嗎?應該是非常了解到我們國人的需求當然也要看看國家的發展\n國人的需求 食安的堅持因為他們很辛苦在堅持這幾個原則我覺得全國的民眾應該要支持這些談判的人在這幾個原則之下真的費盡了老金從國家的立場和食安的立場\n那個因為我時間也有限我知道您會特別提這個國際標準就是國際還有科學數據那首先第一個您剛剛提到的我們要支持我們代表國家我們大家全國一體嘛那我們認同但是整個台美談判過程你看我們台積電先走了一步然後接著我們整個的關稅\n稅率會多少目前還沒公佈但是我們民眾最基本最卑微的要求就是我們不能賠償去食安我們人民的健康還是最基本的所以您既然談到這個科學數據那我想世界各國\n我們有關這個瘦肉精萊克多巴胺的標準大部分都是還是在0.01ppm以下所以這一次的談判我們希望我們整個的標準不要放寬您可不可以具體承諾\n有關於訂定標準的部分對於全世界對於收入金的和國際的規範的確如您所言會有一些些的差異的存在\n那但是不管是差異在哪裡都我們會回歸到我們的市民安全風險分析科學的基礎我們必須要針對我們的飲食對嘛 我們目前是0.01ppm 肌肉的部分然後內臟是0.04嘛\n我的意思就是說經過這一次的台美關稅的談判我們不要放寬不可以再放寬了可以嗎其實我是希望部長承諾因為部長你都是你去開行政院會還有跟我們包括我們可能代表的副院長所以我們還是希望衛福部的立場就是要堅守\n對 針對這部分的話我特別提一下因為的確如院長 如部長剛才提到的因為談判的過程中在最後的 應該是在最後抽傷的階段那麼你看到新聞其實有三次的實體的談也有在媒體上其實有一部分的資訊大家因為它本身是所謂原始的國家所謂的National Trade貿易的評估美國所以公開的有很多的議題\n那這個議題裡面我們針對這個談判的過程其實是不是在這邊我們要的是部長其實您的立場也讓我們民眾安心嘛我們要堅持標準不放寬還有我們的標示也不可以放寬\n就是有關國內標示的義務也不要放寬還是跟委員報告我們食安一定是按照我們國委的習慣還有科學的分析還有一定是符合安全的規範這個是一定要堅持的然後再來因為台灣人跟美國人的飲食習慣不一樣他們不吃內臟我們台灣人很多人吃內臟所以\n內臟又是殘存量特高的所以我還要特別強調因為這些民眾的期待我們希望衛福部替民眾把關\n是的我們一定替民眾在食安的一個把關所以我們希望不知道也許聽說是8月1號整個公布的時候我們希望是不要讓民眾失望最後最後分析我們一定會保障民眾的食安健康好謝謝部長我們替民眾把關我們也全力挺您好那最後我想用一點點的時間就是近期國內的缺藥問題頻傳\n那新補充錠長期缺貨短效型的胰島素供應也告急民眾用藥權益受損所以很多基層的藥師和專家都呼籲政府要積極備戰所以本席想請問衛福部是否已盤點國內必要藥品的供應現況是否還有對於單一來源或全數仰賴進口的藥品有沒有具體的應對計畫\n是的我想我們國內的兩個方面一個是缺藥的一個機制因為剛剛您提的譬如說是短效性的胰島素這個都是必要的一個藥品所以它的缺藥的一個機制以及通知以及它的儲存我們都有這樣的機制\n這個都有盤點第二個就是說我們還是要長年來講推動整個藥品的改革包括支持新藥在地的製造鼓勵國產的學名藥這兩個部分都是增加我們醫藥醫材韌性很重要的工作\n很好這剛好也是我的問題就是說部長是不是可以提出明確的時程您剛剛講我們可以鼓勵我們國內藥廠自製一些關鍵藥品降低對進口的依賴有沒有明確的時程\n市長報委員這邊在食藥署對這個規劃其實非常積極的在進行那這個整個計畫在2月就任以來其實對於學名藥廠原料藥廠及國內外的剛才提到的生物理事的用藥的藥廠都進一步的召集很多的相次委員非常精準的提到我們現在必須要建立更強的一個韌性方向那如果我們有更進一步的時間積極的在這邊辦理\n應該要有明確的時程嘛我們有個目標有個時程才可以去依據來推動所以是不是會後提供給我們好嗎好的 謝謝 謝謝委員好 謝謝好 徐委員 謝謝好 謝謝徐委員 謝謝部長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.131 --> 00:09.194\n好謝謝主席本席有請邱部長\n\n00:14.085 --> 00:42.152\n委員好邱部長好辛苦了我們今天要特別來跟您談有關台美關稅談判所以台灣食品安全的相關影響那首先我想國人非常非常關心的就是有關我們在這一次的台美關稅談判中部長可不可以明確的來跟我們國人承諾\n\n00:43.092 --> 01:00.992\n在整個的談判中我們不會放寬有關美豬或美牛含瘦肉精萊克多巴胺的標準不會放寬標準以及標示義務可不可以明確的來跟我們國人承諾\n\n01:02.938 --> 01:30.233\n我想我們報告委員因為這個食安這個是絕對是我們衛福部要堅守的那食安的一個根據是在哪裡就是在一個科學的分析科學的根據還有依照國際的規範所以這個部分這是我們衛福部在堅守的那自己在談台美關稅的一個談判是不是有去接觸到這個部分談得怎麼樣因為他還在談\n\n01:31.554 --> 01:56.725\n但是我們應該有我們的立場我相信我們談的成員一定很清楚一定很清楚我們跟我們衛福部一樣的一個立場你們有溝通過嗎?您跟我們代表談判的談判官代表台灣的你們有溝通過這塊嗎?應該是非常了解到我們國人的需求當然也要看看國家的發展\n\n01:59.066 --> 02:16.161\n國人的需求食安的堅持因為他們很辛苦在堅持這幾個原則我覺得全國的民眾應該要支持這些談判的人在這幾個原則之下真的費盡了老金從國家的立場和食安的立場\n\n02:17.222 --> 02:42.534\n那個因為我時間也有限我知道您會特別提這個國際標準就是國際還有科學數據那首先第一個您剛剛提到的我們要支持我們代表國家我們大家全國一體嘛那我們認同但是整個台美談判過程你看我們台積電先走了一步然後接著我們整個的關稅\n\n02:44.015 --> 02:59.591\n稅率會多少目前還沒公佈但是我們民眾最基本最卑微的要求就是我們不能賠償去食安我們人民的健康還是最基本的所以您既然談到這個科學數據那我想世界各國\n\n03:00.672 --> 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trade貿易的評估，所以有很多公開的議題，在這個議題裡面，我們針對談判的過程，其實不是在這邊可以跟委員……"],["徐委員欣瑩：我們要的是部長的承諾，因為您的立場也讓我們民眾安心嘛！我們要堅持標準不放寬，還有我們的標示也不可以放寬，就是有關國內標示的義務也不要放寬。"],["邱部長泰源：還是跟委員報告，我們的食安一定是按照我們國人的習慣以及科學的分析，還有一定是符合安全的規範，這個是一定要堅持的。"],["徐委員欣瑩：再來，因為臺灣人跟美國人的飲食習慣不一樣，他們不吃內臟，我們臺灣很多人吃內臟，而內臟又是殘存量特高的，所以我還是要特別強調，因為這是民眾的期待，我們希望衛福部能替民眾把關。"],["邱部長泰源：是的，我們一定替民眾在食安方面做好把關。"],["徐委員欣瑩：所以我們希望，不知道，聽說也許是8月1號，整個公布的時候，我們希望不要讓民眾失望。","最後，本席……"],["邱部長泰源：你放心，我們一定會保障民眾的食安健康。"],["徐委員欣瑩：好，謝謝部長，你們替民眾把關，我們也全力挺您。","最後，我想用一點點的時間，近期國內缺藥的問題頻傳，鋅補充錠長期缺貨，短效型的胰島素供應也告急，民眾用藥權益受損，所以很多基層的藥師和專家都呼籲政府要積極備戰，本席想請問衛福部是否已盤點國內必要藥品的供應現況？還有，對於單一來源或全數仰賴進口的藥品，有沒有具體的應對計畫？"],["邱部長泰源：是的，我們國內有兩個方面，一個是缺藥的機制，誠如剛剛您提到的，比如短效性的胰島素，這個都是必要的藥品，所以相關缺藥的機制、通知以及貯存，我們都有一定的機制……"],["徐委員欣瑩：已經盤點了嗎？都有？"],["邱部長泰源：有，這個都有盤點。第二個就是說，以長遠來講，我們還是要推動整個藥品的改革，包括支持新藥在地的製造，鼓勵國產的學名藥，這兩個部分都是增加我們醫藥醫材韌性很重要的工作。"],["徐委員欣瑩：很好，這剛好也是我的問題，部長是不是可以提出明確的時程？您剛剛講，我們可以鼓勵國內藥廠自製一些關鍵藥品，降低對進口的依賴，有沒有明確的時程？"],["邱部長泰源：我請署長說明。"],["姜署長至剛：報告委員，食藥署對這個部分的規劃其實是非常積極的在進行，整個計畫從2月我就任以來，對於學名藥廠、原料藥廠，及國內外剛才提到的生物擬似用藥的藥廠，都進一步的召集，很多的項次委員非常精準的提到了，我們現在必須要建立更強韌性的方向，這個部分容我們有更進一步的時間去積極地辦理。謝謝。"],["徐委員欣瑩：應該要有明確的時程嘛！我們有個目標、有個時程，才可以有依據的去推動，所以是不是會後提供給我們，好嗎？"],["姜署長至剛：好的，謝謝委員。"],["徐委員欣瑩：好，謝謝。"],["邱部長泰源：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝徐委員，謝謝部長及署長。","接續我們請王正旭委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":398,"meet_id":"委員會-11-3-26-21","speakers":["蘇清泉","陳昭姿","陳菁徽","王育敏","涂權吉","賴惠員","邱鎮軍","林淑芬","陳冠廷","劉建國","黃秀芳","林月琴","許宇甄","徐欣瑩","王正旭","陳瑩","陳永康","楊曜","廖偉翔","盧縣一"],"page_start":325,"meetingDate":["2025-07-17"],"gazette_id":"1146701","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1146701_00007"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第21次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"邀請衛生福利部部長、勞動部部長、財政部部長、農業部針對「因應嚴重災情、緊急重大事件，\n醫療院所承擔救護量能困境及因應台美關稅談判對台灣食品安全相關影響」進行專題報告，並備\n質詢","agenda_id":"1146701_00006"}}}