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00:00:46,254\n這個發布就是說有一些可能傳染病也好或者是水災過後可能會有一些這個疾病的一個發生那我想請教部長就是說針對這個中南部這個水災過後那我們衛福部有做什麼樣的就是說預防這個傳染病或者是可能未來也有這個登革任因為今天開始天氣放晴那像這樣子的話我們衛福部做了什麼樣的\n\n4\n00:01:01,677 --> 00:01:21,184\n或者是說協助中南部縣市怎麼樣去讓我們的整個環境能夠更好那也許這個傳染病大家會覺得最近今天的這個報紙有提到就是說我們這個因為有汙水或者是汙泥那如果接觸的話會有一些譬如說那個\n\n5\n00:01:22,724 --> 00:01:36,056\n類BG這樣的一個疾病或者是登革熱或者是屈弓病這個是外來的境外的那我想請教部長針對這樣子的一些傳染疾病你們有做什麼樣的處置\n\n6\n00:01:37,250 --> 00:01:50,040\n好謝謝委員的催省只要每次有像颱風或豪雨這樣撐災的一個情況我們疫情除了說應變中心它有整體的一個處理我們也會報告醫療的狀況跟還有收容的狀況以外我們特別關心到\n\n7\n00:01:59,367 --> 00:02:16,445\n一個疫情的緩緩那也就是環境的恢復整潔這是我們最重視的那我們也會對針對譬如說積水沒有清之下可能會產生就是說還有剛剛委員所提的類BG病還有\n\n8\n00:02:17,767 --> 00:02:32,166\n燈火熱等等的這些那甚至沒人進沒人可能傳達的疾病的病毒這個都是要處理所以我們當然我們第一時間除了說在台北這邊\n\n9\n00:02:34,828 --> 00:02:52,073\n幾萬時會針對疫情的時候發表說請當地的居民要注意哪些事情你們是用宣傳的或者是你們有什麼樣的協助莊仁祥市長也親自下到南部去指揮當地的一個我們各個地方都有防疫的中心\n\n10\n00:02:52,973 --> 00:03:19,393\n然後跟衛生局跟環保局來討論怎麼共同來討論怎麼樣做後續的一個清潔的工作那最重要的是要先導出去比如說我們要裝你去清理的時候裝備一定要齊全還有當然飲食要注意還有清除滋生源這個部分這三個部分我們一直在先導也一直在請當地的一個負責的不管是衛生或環保這個部分來努力\n\n11\n00:03:21,814 --> 00:03:35,518\n最主要是想要提醒衛福部因為前兩三個禮拜淹水今天天氣開始放晴放晴可能會有一些淹水過後可能會有一些傳染病或者是病沒穩或者是蚊蟲會出來\n\n12\n00:03:38,039 --> 00:04:04,954\n所以我希望就是說衛福部不只是只有宣傳而已可能也要有一些實際的行動協助地方政府那我今天也看到就是說這個新聞有說疾管署這個副署長也有對外也有針對這個可能中南部淹水的地區要怎麼要去做一個防護或者是我們現在境外的這個屈公病的這個部分那我覺得說未來這個也是一個挑戰\n\n13\n00:04:06,075 --> 00:04:23,505\n如果說可以這個短時間內將這個家園恢復那讓大家過著一個正常的生活我覺得衛福部也扮演一個非常重要的一個角色所以我在這邊要再次的提醒部長就是說不只是只有宣傳啦應該也是要有一些實際的行動\n\n14\n00:04:25,649 --> 00:04:39,410\n好的我們也會督導消毒藥水也都會充分的來提供那當地的一個如果任何在環境的清潔清消各方面有問題\n\n15\n00:04:40,356 --> 00:04:47,243\n我想我們二部這邊一定全力支持縣市來做相關的工作另外部長我想請教就是說審計部在113年這個總決算的審核報告裡面就特別提到就是說\n\n16\n00:04:57,113 --> 00:05:23,207\n衛福部針對這個國家關鍵基礎設施是主要的這個領域最主要的一個協調機關那這個審計部這邊說好像都沒有看到這個衛福部這邊有什麼樣的這個會議那我想請教就是說部長針對這部分你們都已經被審計部這邊做一些修這個糾正那另外就是說我們要怎麼去\n\n17\n00:05:24,768 --> 00:05:43,363\n做一個這個補救另外就是說目前在前些陣子就是說有一些部分的醫院他們發生這個勒索軟體的攻擊事件那其實這個也是一個關鍵基礎設施安全防護的一個這個最主要如果說我們做得好的話\n\n18\n00:05:44,204 --> 00:06:11,647\n也許這樣的一個醫院的這個軟體被攻擊的部分也許會減少因為醫院裡面所有的這個個資都非常的重要那我想請教部長就是針對這一部分你們到底有做什麼樣的補救或者是針對這一部分你們到底有沒有開會為什麼審計部說沒有那你們到底有沒有開會召集其他的這個次要的這些相關主管機關一起來\n\n19\n00:06:12,287 --> 00:06:34,500\n好的審計部這個部分我們分兩大概兩方面來報告第一個就是在資安方面資安的防疫方面其實我們衛福部已經擴大將378家的醫院納入資安的防疫網那當時一開始就我們根據一發生相關的資安的事情我們就開始\n\n20\n00:06:35,601 --> 00:07:00,742\n幾家大醫院就自通安全管理法來盤點我國重度級以上的急救醫院共55家那所謂這個就是CriticalInfrastructure就是關鍵基礎設施這個部分我們都給他完全治安的集合同時也成立了教戰總則用到所有的七八十家的醫院這個部分應該是算還算\n\n21\n00:07:03,058 --> 00:07:17,370\n在國際級的一個水準那另外一個部分是有關於那個國土行政院的國土安全辦這個部分因為是這樣子他原來有一個107年有一個鋼藥那在114年7月21號召開會議決定匯除這個協調的機關設置朝向\n\n22\n00:07:28,471 --> 00:07:44,660\n現在現行的執行三級的模式這個來簡化的一個運作的維基運作的成績所以我們是按照國土的一個決議會含文到審計部跟他說明那這一另外特別\n\n23\n00:07:45,715 --> 00:08:00,290\n二部發了很多的力量在做醫療照護關鍵設施的一個特別是在基礎設施所以我們有成立67個CI就是關鍵的基礎設施包括疾管署\n\n24\n00:08:00,851 --> 00:08:04,633\n如果你們有做的話也要說不要讓外界認為這個審計部都跟你們糾正了我們除了會給回覆審計部以外我們也會把整理好發新聞稿來說明因為這個都是很重要的工作\n\n25\n00:08:24,241 --> 00:08:51,228\n另外部長請教就是說今天很多委員特別提到就是說有關我們發這個保護令所以保護令出來之後那確實會有一個時間差會有一個時間的一個落差那到底這個保護令它是不是真的能夠保護到這個被害人那其實我們也會遇到一個問題如果是一個加害人他根本不甩這個保護令的話好像也沒有什麼\n\n26\n00:08:52,188 --> 00:09:20,149\n好像也沒有什麼更積極的一個作為來做處置那我想請教部長就是說針對這一部分如果這個加害人他完全就不甩這個保護令的話那我們要怎麼辦是的我想保護令的還是有它的應該有的話有功能啦包括有八成的加害人就不會再施保但是問題是面對那另外你說八成那另外兩成的部分有前科的啦精神病啦或嚴重暴力脅迫的這些\n\n27\n00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:47,965\n行為其實特別在離婚開庭裁判前後那種可能情緒的一個部分那如果像這樣子的話我們要怎麼做呢第一個我們要加強刑事司法的技術力第二個就是我們各個部會網絡的共同來落實相關的安全的計畫我想這個部分就是我們在精進的也是委員所關心的那至於在空窗期的時候我們\n\n28\n00:09:49,224 --> 00:10:14,463\n其實不只空中其他人,任何時刻我們都希望防治網絡的成員應該提高敏感度加害人如果有特別行為,像是追蹤、騷擾警方就要依法對加害人進行查訪、告誡或者是視危機程度來測驗所以如果像類似這個狀況,一方面可能會請警方協助那另外一方面就是社工,社工也會去協助嘛對不對\n\n29\n00:10:15,043 --> 00:10:40,357\n那這樣子的話未來這個社工的這個案量或者是他的這個工作也更多所以我想請教部長就是如果類似這樣的一個問題那這個社工的這個部分是不是人力也要再增加要不然確實如果說你又要這個警方來協助然後社工又要到訪又要去訪視的話其實我覺得這個人力確實會\n\n30\n00:10:42,619 --> 00:11:00,309\n會比原本的可能還要再更多人來協助那我想請教部長未來這部分社工的人力的部分那你們是不是會因為譬如說這個縣市的這樣子的案量比較多的話那我社工的人力就要再增加是不是會有這樣的一個比例的調整\n\n31\n00:11:01,657 --> 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或者是你們有什麼樣的協助莊仁祥市長也親自下到南部去指揮當地的一個我們各個地方都有防疫的中心\n172973\t199393\t然後跟衛生局跟環保局來討論怎麼 共同來討論怎麼樣做後續的一個清潔的工作那最重要的是要先導出去比如說我們要裝 你去清理的時候裝備一定要齊全還有當然飲食要注意 還有清除滋生源這個部分這三個部分我們一直在先導也一直在請當地的一個負責的不管是衛生或環保這個部分來努力\n201814\t215518\t最主要是想要提醒衛福部因為前兩三個禮拜淹水今天天氣開始放晴放晴可能會有一些淹水過後可能會有一些傳染病或者是病沒穩或者是蚊蟲會出來\n218039\t244954\t所以我希望就是說衛福部不只是只有宣傳而已可能也要有一些實際的行動協助地方政府那我今天也看到就是說這個新聞有說疾管署這個副署長也有對外也有針對這個可能中南部淹水的地區要怎麼要去做一個防護或者是我們現在境外的這個屈公病的這個部分那我覺得說未來這個也是一個挑戰\n246075\t263505\t如果說可以這個短時間內將這個家園恢復那讓大家過著一個正常的生活我覺得衛福部也扮演一個非常重要的一個角色所以我在這邊要再次的提醒部長就是說不只是只有宣傳啦應該也是要有一些實際的行動\n265649\t279410\t好的 我們也會督導消毒藥水也都會充分的來提供那當地的一個如果任何在環境的清潔 清消各方面有問題\n280356\t287243\t我想我們二部這邊一定全力支持縣市來做相關的工作另外部長我想請教就是說審計部在113年這個總決算的審核報告裡面就特別提到就是說\n297113\t323207\t衛福部針對這個國家關鍵基礎設施是主要的這個領域最主要的一個協調機關那這個審計部這邊說好像都沒有看到這個衛福部這邊有什麼樣的這個會議那我想請教就是說部長針對這部分你們都已經被審計部這邊做一些修這個糾正那另外就是說我們要怎麼去\n324768\t343363\t做一個這個補救另外就是說目前在前些陣子就是說有一些部分的醫院他們發生這個勒索軟體的攻擊事件那其實這個也是一個關鍵基礎設施安全防護的一個這個最主要如果說我們做得好的話\n344204\t371647\t也許這樣的一個醫院的這個軟體被攻擊的部分也許會減少因為醫院裡面所有的這個個資都非常的重要那我想請教部長就是針對這一部分你們到底有做什麼樣的補救或者是針對這一部分你們到底有沒有開會為什麼審計部說沒有那你們到底有沒有開會召集其他的這個次要的這些相關主管機關一起來\n372287\t394500\t好的 審計部這個部分我們分兩大概兩方面來報告第一個就是在資安方面資安的防疫方面其實我們衛福部已經擴大將378家的醫院納入資安的防疫網那當時一開始就我們根據一發生相關的資安的事情我們就開始\n395601\t420742\t幾家大醫院就自通安全管理法來盤點我國重度級以上的急救醫院共55家那所謂這個就是Critical Infrastructure就是關鍵基礎設施這個部分我們都給他完全治安的集合同時也成立了教戰總則用到所有的七八十家的醫院這個部分應該是算還算\n423058\t437370\t在國際級的一個水準那另外一個部分是有關於那個國土行政院的國土安全辦這個部分因為是這樣子他原來有一個107年有一個鋼藥那在114年7月21號召開會議決定匯除這個協調的機關設置朝向\n448471\t464660\t現在現行的執行三級的模式這個來簡化的一個運作的維基運作的成績所以我們是按照國土的一個決議會含文到審計部跟他說明那這一另外特別\n465715\t480290\t二部發了很多的力量在做醫療照護關鍵設施的一個特別是在基礎設施所以我們有成立67個CI就是關鍵的基礎設施包括疾管署\n480851\t484633\t如果你們有做的話也要說不要讓外界認為這個審計部都跟你們糾正了我們除了會給回覆審計部以外我們也會把整理好發新聞稿來說明因為這個都是很重要的工作\n504241\t531228\t另外部長請教就是說今天很多委員特別提到就是說有關我們發這個保護令所以保護令出來之後那確實會有一個時間差會有一個時間的一個落差那到底這個保護令它是不是真的能夠保護到這個被害人那其實我們也會遇到一個問題如果是一個加害人他根本不甩這個保護令的話好像也沒有什麼\n532188\t560149\t好像也沒有什麼更積極的一個作為來做處置那我想請教部長就是說針對這一部分如果這個加害人他完全就不甩這個保護令的話那我們要怎麼辦是的 我想保護令的還是有它的應該有的話 有功能啦包括有八成的加害人就不會再施保但是問題是面對那另外 你說八成那另外兩成的部分有前科的啦 精神病啦或嚴重暴力脅迫的這些\n561110\t587965\t行為其實特別在離婚開庭裁判前後那種可能情緒的一個部分那如果像這樣子的話我們要怎麼做呢第一個我們要加強刑事司法的技術力第二個就是我們各個部會網絡的共同來落實相關的安全的計畫我想這個部分就是我們在精進的也是委員所關心的那至於在空窗期的時候我們\n589224\t614463\t其實不只空中其他人,任何時刻我們都希望防治網絡的成員應該提高敏感度加害人如果有特別行為,像是追蹤、騷擾警方就要依法對加害人進行查訪、告誡或者是視危機程度來測驗所以如果像類似這個狀況,一方面可能會請警方協助那另外一方面就是社工,社工也會去協助嘛對不對\n615043\t640357\t那這樣子的話未來這個社工的這個案量或者是他的這個工作也更多所以我想請教部長就是如果類似這樣的一個問題那這個社工的這個部分是不是人力也要再增加要不然確實如果說你又要這個警方來協助然後社工又要到訪又要去訪視的話其實我覺得這個人力確實會\n642619\t660309\t會比原本的可能還要再更多人來協助那我想請教部長未來這部分社工的人力的部分那你們是不是會因為譬如說這個縣市的這樣子的案量比較多的話那我社工的人力就要再增加是不是會有這樣的一個比例的調整\n661657\t687323\t隨委員隨行 報告委員就是只要人民安全需要的我想我們各部會一定要全力來配合沒有人力的我們就來增加人力在社工的人力 在社會安全網方面會去做增加的一個工作那會看任務的一個繁重我想這個部分我們也會在社會安全網這個部分來努力\n688885\t696091\t好 我們不希望有再下一個這樣的一個悲劇發生我們絕對要努力讓它不要再這個問題發生好 謝謝\n","txt":"現在請黃秀文委員來做詢問謝謝主席,我們請部長來,有請邱部長\n部長好 部長從7月初到現在這個將近三個禮拜的時間颱風過後那中南部淹水算是還蠻嚴重的那我想請教就是說最近我們看到疾管署這邊也有特別\n這個發布就是說有一些可能傳染病也好或者是水災過後可能會有一些這個疾病的一個發生那我想請教部長就是說針對這個中南部這個水災過後那我們衛福部有做什麼樣的就是說預防這個傳染病或者是可能未來也有這個登革任因為今天開始天氣放晴那像這樣子的話我們衛福部做了什麼樣的\n或者是說協助中南部縣市怎麼樣去讓我們的整個環境能夠更好那也許這個傳染病大家會覺得最近今天的這個報紙有提到就是說我們這個因為有汙水或者是汙泥那如果接觸的話會有一些譬如說那個\n類BG這樣的一個疾病或者是登革熱或者是屈弓病這個是外來的境外的那我想請教部長針對這樣子的一些傳染疾病你們有做什麼樣的處置\n好 謝謝委員的催省只要每次有像颱風或豪雨這樣撐災的一個情況我們疫情除了說應變中心它有整體的一個處理我們也會報告醫療的狀況跟還有收容的狀況以外我們特別關心到\n一個疫情的緩緩那也就是環境的恢復整潔這是我們最重視的那我們也會對針對譬如說積水沒有清之下可能會產生就是說還有剛剛委員所提的類BG病還有\n燈火熱等等的這些那甚至沒人進沒人可能傳達的疾病的病毒這個都是要處理所以我們當然我們第一時間除了說在台北這邊\n幾萬時會針對疫情的時候發表說請當地的居民要注意哪些事情你們是用宣傳的 或者是你們有什麼樣的協助莊仁祥市長也親自下到南部去指揮當地的一個我們各個地方都有防疫的中心\n然後跟衛生局跟環保局來討論怎麼 共同來討論怎麼樣做後續的一個清潔的工作那最重要的是要先導出去比如說我們要裝 你去清理的時候裝備一定要齊全還有當然飲食要注意 還有清除滋生源這個部分這三個部分我們一直在先導也一直在請當地的一個負責的不管是衛生或環保這個部分來努力\n最主要是想要提醒衛福部因為前兩三個禮拜淹水今天天氣開始放晴放晴可能會有一些淹水過後可能會有一些傳染病或者是病沒穩或者是蚊蟲會出來\n所以我希望就是說衛福部不只是只有宣傳而已可能也要有一些實際的行動協助地方政府那我今天也看到就是說這個新聞有說疾管署這個副署長也有對外也有針對這個可能中南部淹水的地區要怎麼要去做一個防護或者是我們現在境外的這個屈公病的這個部分那我覺得說未來這個也是一個挑戰\n如果說可以這個短時間內將這個家園恢復那讓大家過著一個正常的生活我覺得衛福部也扮演一個非常重要的一個角色所以我在這邊要再次的提醒部長就是說不只是只有宣傳啦應該也是要有一些實際的行動\n好的 我們也會督導消毒藥水也都會充分的來提供那當地的一個如果任何在環境的清潔 清消各方面有問題\n我想我們二部這邊一定全力支持縣市來做相關的工作另外部長我想請教就是說審計部在113年這個總決算的審核報告裡面就特別提到就是說\n衛福部針對這個國家關鍵基礎設施是主要的這個領域最主要的一個協調機關那這個審計部這邊說好像都沒有看到這個衛福部這邊有什麼樣的這個會議那我想請教就是說部長針對這部分你們都已經被審計部這邊做一些修這個糾正那另外就是說我們要怎麼去\n做一個這個補救另外就是說目前在前些陣子就是說有一些部分的醫院他們發生這個勒索軟體的攻擊事件那其實這個也是一個關鍵基礎設施安全防護的一個這個最主要如果說我們做得好的話\n也許這樣的一個醫院的這個軟體被攻擊的部分也許會減少因為醫院裡面所有的這個個資都非常的重要那我想請教部長就是針對這一部分你們到底有做什麼樣的補救或者是針對這一部分你們到底有沒有開會為什麼審計部說沒有那你們到底有沒有開會召集其他的這個次要的這些相關主管機關一起來\n好的 審計部這個部分我們分兩大概兩方面來報告第一個就是在資安方面資安的防疫方面其實我們衛福部已經擴大將378家的醫院納入資安的防疫網那當時一開始就我們根據一發生相關的資安的事情我們就開始\n幾家大醫院就自通安全管理法來盤點我國重度級以上的急救醫院共55家那所謂這個就是Critical Infrastructure就是關鍵基礎設施這個部分我們都給他完全治安的集合同時也成立了教戰總則用到所有的七八十家的醫院這個部分應該是算還算\n在國際級的一個水準那另外一個部分是有關於那個國土行政院的國土安全辦這個部分因為是這樣子他原來有一個107年有一個鋼藥那在114年7月21號召開會議決定匯除這個協調的機關設置朝向\n現在現行的執行三級的模式這個來簡化的一個運作的維基運作的成績所以我們是按照國土的一個決議會含文到審計部跟他說明那這一另外特別\n二部發了很多的力量在做醫療照護關鍵設施的一個特別是在基礎設施所以我們有成立67個CI就是關鍵的基礎設施包括疾管署\n如果你們有做的話也要說不要讓外界認為這個審計部都跟你們糾正了我們除了會給回覆審計部以外我們也會把整理好發新聞稿來說明因為這個都是很重要的工作\n另外部長請教就是說今天很多委員特別提到就是說有關我們發這個保護令所以保護令出來之後那確實會有一個時間差會有一個時間的一個落差那到底這個保護令它是不是真的能夠保護到這個被害人那其實我們也會遇到一個問題如果是一個加害人他根本不甩這個保護令的話好像也沒有什麼\n好像也沒有什麼更積極的一個作為來做處置那我想請教部長就是說針對這一部分如果這個加害人他完全就不甩這個保護令的話那我們要怎麼辦是的 我想保護令的還是有它的應該有的話 有功能啦包括有八成的加害人就不會再施保但是問題是面對那另外 你說八成那另外兩成的部分有前科的啦 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01:21.184\n或者是說協助中南部縣市怎麼樣去讓我們的整個環境能夠更好那也許這個傳染病大家會覺得最近今天的這個報紙有提到就是說我們這個因為有汙水或者是汙泥那如果接觸的話會有一些譬如說那個\n\n01:22.724 --> 01:36.056\n類BG這樣的一個疾病或者是登革熱或者是屈弓病這個是外來的境外的那我想請教部長針對這樣子的一些傳染疾病你們有做什麼樣的處置\n\n01:37.250 --> 01:50.040\n好謝謝委員的催省只要每次有像颱風或豪雨這樣撐災的一個情況我們疫情除了說應變中心它有整體的一個處理我們也會報告醫療的狀況跟還有收容的狀況以外我們特別關心到\n\n01:59.367 --> 02:16.445\n一個疫情的緩緩那也就是環境的恢復整潔這是我們最重視的那我們也會對針對譬如說積水沒有清之下可能會產生就是說還有剛剛委員所提的類BG病還有\n\n02:17.767 --> 02:32.166\n燈火熱等等的這些那甚至沒人進沒人可能傳達的疾病的病毒這個都是要處理所以我們當然我們第一時間除了說在台北這邊\n\n02:34.828 --> 02:52.073\n幾萬時會針對疫情的時候發表說請當地的居民要注意哪些事情你們是用宣傳的或者是你們有什麼樣的協助莊仁祥市長也親自下到南部去指揮當地的一個我們各個地方都有防疫的中心\n\n02:52.973 --> 03:19.393\n然後跟衛生局跟環保局來討論怎麼共同來討論怎麼樣做後續的一個清潔的工作那最重要的是要先導出去比如說我們要裝你去清理的時候裝備一定要齊全還有當然飲食要注意還有清除滋生源這個部分這三個部分我們一直在先導也一直在請當地的一個負責的不管是衛生或環保這個部分來努力\n\n03:21.814 --> 03:35.518\n最主要是想要提醒衛福部因為前兩三個禮拜淹水今天天氣開始放晴放晴可能會有一些淹水過後可能會有一些傳染病或者是病沒穩或者是蚊蟲會出來\n\n03:38.039 --> 04:04.954\n所以我希望就是說衛福部不只是只有宣傳而已可能也要有一些實際的行動協助地方政府那我今天也看到就是說這個新聞有說疾管署這個副署長也有對外也有針對這個可能中南部淹水的地區要怎麼要去做一個防護或者是我們現在境外的這個屈公病的這個部分那我覺得說未來這個也是一個挑戰\n\n04:06.075 --> 04:23.505\n如果說可以這個短時間內將這個家園恢復那讓大家過著一個正常的生活我覺得衛福部也扮演一個非常重要的一個角色所以我在這邊要再次的提醒部長就是說不只是只有宣傳啦應該也是要有一些實際的行動\n\n04:25.649 --> 04:39.410\n好的我們也會督導消毒藥水也都會充分的來提供那當地的一個如果任何在環境的清潔清消各方面有問題\n\n04:40.356 --> 04:47.243\n我想我們二部這邊一定全力支持縣市來做相關的工作另外部長我想請教就是說審計部在113年這個總決算的審核報告裡面就特別提到就是說\n\n04:57.113 --> 05:23.207\n衛福部針對這個國家關鍵基礎設施是主要的這個領域最主要的一個協調機關那這個審計部這邊說好像都沒有看到這個衛福部這邊有什麼樣的這個會議那我想請教就是說部長針對這部分你們都已經被審計部這邊做一些修這個糾正那另外就是說我們要怎麼去\n\n05:24.768 --> 05:43.363\n做一個這個補救另外就是說目前在前些陣子就是說有一些部分的醫院他們發生這個勒索軟體的攻擊事件那其實這個也是一個關鍵基礎設施安全防護的一個這個最主要如果說我們做得好的話\n\n05:44.204 --> 06:11.647\n也許這樣的一個醫院的這個軟體被攻擊的部分也許會減少因為醫院裡面所有的這個個資都非常的重要那我想請教部長就是針對這一部分你們到底有做什麼樣的補救或者是針對這一部分你們到底有沒有開會為什麼審計部說沒有那你們到底有沒有開會召集其他的這個次要的這些相關主管機關一起來\n\n06:12.287 --> 06:34.500\n好的審計部這個部分我們分兩大概兩方面來報告第一個就是在資安方面資安的防疫方面其實我們衛福部已經擴大將378家的醫院納入資安的防疫網那當時一開始就我們根據一發生相關的資安的事情我們就開始\n\n06:35.601 --> 07:00.742\n幾家大醫院就自通安全管理法來盤點我國重度級以上的急救醫院共55家那所謂這個就是CriticalInfrastructure就是關鍵基礎設施這個部分我們都給他完全治安的集合同時也成立了教戰總則用到所有的七八十家的醫院這個部分應該是算還算\n\n07:03.058 --> 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