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00:00:45,669\n院長大家辛苦了請息怒誰在硬拗誰在強詞奪理社會自有公斷負責任的執政黨我們努力做到只是可惜忠誠的在野黨在台灣現在還沒有看到我多次的說\n\n3\n00:00:47,137 --> 00:01:03,051\n國家是大家的預算是全民的預算沒有顏色但是藍白主導的國會卻讓114年以及來年115年的中央財政都陷入了黑暗期\n\n4\n00:01:04,954 --> 00:01:20,083\n114年是審查總預算史上最混亂刪減最多凍結最嚴格這是史上未見的一個總預算之亂我們都在全民持續的受苦\n\n5\n00:01:21,038 --> 00:01:36,258\n但是來年要編列也即將送出的115年總預算我更要說是中央財政有史以來最最黑暗的時期而且這是史上最難編列的一次總預算\n\n6\n00:01:37,379 --> 00:02:03,645\n稍後我會就追加預算任性特別預算跟年度新的總預算來就教於您我要再次呼籲國會縱使應當嚴格審查但也要合理監督不是胡扯硬凹以為要癱瘓傷害執政黨卻是傷害了自己的國家下一頁\n\n7\n00:02:04,795 --> 00:02:30,433\n今天我先跟您講文化講文化會讓我們更優雅一點我也期待我卸任幹事長之後我可以回到文化立委的身份去投入我最熱愛也最專業的文化的政策首先在2018年吳斯堯是國會第一位我倡議台灣的國家軟實力就是文化力要善用國際的MegaEvent\n\n8\n00:02:31,233 --> 00:02:55,662\n讓台灣的國家品牌跟上國際的賽會賽事讓世界看見台灣所以當我2018年倡議的時候我那時候的聚焦就是優先從2020年的東京奧運再來2024年的巴黎奧運乃至於2025今年的大阪世博都讓台灣組成文化國家隊讓世界看見台灣下一頁\n\n9\n00:02:56,562 --> 00:03:13,321\n於是當時的行政院長賴清德他就同意拍板成為我們文化外交的新模式因此2021年我們在東京奧運啟動的台灣Now就是一個最好的開端下一頁\n\n10\n00:03:14,321 --> 00:03:40,421\n接著在巴黎的奧運上我們又用文化台灣呈現台灣的文化藝術力也獲得世界的掌聲他不只表演藝術視覺藝術我們的策展我們的閱讀所有的文化人集結邁向讓世界看到利用運動賽會的奧運舞台他也是台灣的文化盛會下一頁\n\n11\n00:03:41,403 --> 00:03:56,423\n所以今年的大阪是博我們的文化部門也是這樣雄心壯志乘勝追擊但是就因為在野黨二砍二刪預算而且鎖定特定的預算就是國際的沒宣費\n\n12\n00:03:58,105 --> 00:04:18,465\n讓台灣的國際宣傳沒了錢就是形同讓台灣的文化力台灣的聲音在世界背勁聲勒住了脖子勒住台灣自己脖子的人是自己的立法委員自己的國會所以承受了惡果啊今年的大阪市博就是現在八月\n\n13\n00:04:19,673 --> 00:04:36,230\n然後呢國際沒宣費被在野黨惡砍之後文化人站出來由楊大正由吳念真老師發起民間募資要推動我們前進大阪的活動因為要強化宣傳\n\n14\n00:04:37,301 --> 00:04:52,686\n我們的文化藝術表演界都準備好但沒有文化宣傳費所以發起了民間募資在登場的這一系列35組藝術人超過140場的文化展演共募資光37小時就募資600萬\n\n15\n00:04:54,491 --> 00:05:23,871\n所以這已經上路的三週的文化展演在大阪獲得無限的掌聲這是第一階段的募資第二階段的募資下一頁就是現在即將要利用如果大阪市博未來要卸幕的時候文化人再啟動一次的募資到現在也有700萬的民間的善款我們要在閉幕的時候WeTaiwan這個文化運動要在大阪所有的地鐵\n\n16\n00:05:25,031 --> 00:05:53,214\n來感謝世界各國支持台灣的力量再一次的行銷台灣而國家沒有錢被國民黨民眾黨惡砍了只好讓民間的文化人來募資韓國瑜院長打算安排朝野的立委九月可以到大阪去見證台灣文化力的實力展現但我要說院長你不覺得國會對不起文化人嗎\n\n17\n00:05:55,373 --> 00:06:14,760\n國會對不起文化人嗎當我們帶著大批的立委跨黨派的立委要去大阪沾光的時候國會卻是扼砍我們文化國際宣傳的元兇我不曉得韓院長帶著草野的立委去大阪的時候是要抱著什麼心情\n\n18\n00:06:15,936 --> 00:06:33,468\n我認為國會欠文化人一個道歉文化人站出來搶救文化預算到現在被國民黨的立法委員秋後算帳進行政治的追殺這就是一個惡果啊所以我從文化的事件開始下一頁\n\n19\n00:06:34,628 --> 00:07:03,189\n所有的惡果都在這一張通宣9391不明就裡還砍過頭國務委員我能回答一句話好請回答為了向委員學習對文化的重視我們明年文化部的預算跟今年一樣我堅持超過300億元我們也達到了這是第一個再來文化部明年有一個計畫要把大阪博覽會相關文化預算回來台灣沒錯我知道你們先去看我們在台灣等\n\n20\n00:07:03,885 --> 00:07:25,504\n我希望在野黨的立委不要再為難文化了我也支持在新年度的預算國家支持文化軟實力國會不要再惡砍當然非常好大阪這個140場的文化展演確實文化部打算讓它移回台灣讓台灣人也能受惠我絕對支持政府這樣的做法謝謝委員\n\n21\n00:07:26,405 --> 00:07:49,486\n但是不要再上演去年通山9391還砍過頭還找不到明目砍要行政院自己去調節就產生了6361的這個惡果剛剛在野黨的委員還在這裡大聲指責您我真的是覺得沒有看過這種加害者一再的譴責受害人\n\n22\n00:07:50,347 --> 00:08:07,808\n而當受害的一方行政團隊想方設法提出解方也就是追加預算來解套來挽救國家的財政推動國家的政務的時候現在這些在野黨的委員還在那邊轉移焦點想要洗白自己的罪行下一頁\n\n23\n00:08:08,869 --> 00:08:31,650\n追加預算我們即將安排審議明後天的委員會跟週五的院會這也是韓國瑜院長所拋書的就讓砍過頭的預算用追加預算來恢復補回這也是泛藍陣營地方執政的縣市首長共同的呼籲所以呢下一頁\n\n24\n00:08:32,671 --> 00:08:52,885\n我在這裡說讓施政回歸正軌藍白的立委如果想要洗白自己二彈總預算的罪行不要再擋追加預算了他除了有636億地方補助款之外更有我剛剛說的很重要的中央施政必要的預算下一頁\n\n25\n00:08:54,321 --> 00:09:12,823\n這些是中央時政各部會真的需要用錢的部分我剛剛講的WeTaiwan在大阪的文化行動下一頁我們同樣受到重傷的就是媒體宣傳費不只對外對國際行銷台灣被自己的立法委員掐住了脖子\n\n26\n00:09:15,176 --> 00:09:25,140\n對內當政策需要對國人進行宣導的時候也被砍光光怎麼做譬如說政策的宣導有什麼風災之後要宣導災民怎麼樣來\n\n27\n00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:52,748\n加入政府給的協助措施對不對當我們要打詐需要沒宣費告訴政府告訴人民現在政府有哪些打詐的做法包括馬上要普發現金了如果在野黨不要在黨任性特別條例修正案的話發現金的過程這是史上花最多的一次現金他當然需要去宣傳告訴國人怎麼執行不要被詐騙嘛對不對\n\n28\n00:09:54,758 --> 00:10:12,421\n院長給您最後的時間喊話一下在野黨的委員這是你們真真切切去洗白你們二砍總預算的機會就是支持追加預算院長再次喊話吧在總統指示下我們願意而且會主動的來調整兩院互動關係\n\n29\n00:10:13,542 --> 00:10:42,501\n所以為了追加預算為了特別預算為了明年度總預算我們會主動積極來進行溝通協調我也希望大院給我們這個機會但是如果牽涉到是憲法的問題那沒有什麼可以討論的憲法的標準是有一套所以剛剛也許我的語氣比較激動因為委員對於憲政的秩序要了解對於釋憲對於暫時處分的公用要了解才能在這裡對話\n\n30\n00:10:43,862 --> 00:11:06,458\n所以我並不願意用一種比較激烈的態度來講話我還是誠誠懇懇拜託大院這一次的中央政府總預算的追加限制到各部會目前的困難自在難行我們更希望一起中央地方來解決現在所遇到的財政問題這個一解決今年度我們解決明年度的中央政府總預算我們回到\n\n31\n00:11:07,383 --> 00:11:14,552\n合理正常的朝野行商我們該怎麼做包括警消包括軍人如果釋憲出來我們這個條例沒有違憲\n\n32\n00:11:18,814 --> 00:11:47,148\n我們就補回來追溯回來如果違憲我們現在發了我請問委員我們現在發了一個違憲的執行是立法院違憲還是行政院違憲還是我們共同違憲我們都不要承擔這個責任我是用這樣的方式跟態度我也請韓院長理解各位委員理解謝謝所以其實院長您不用覺得對於剛剛可能動了一點氣覺得sorry事實上面對這種在野黨的立委不懂憲政\n\n33\n00:11:48,228 --> 00:12:12,602\n不懂法律也不懂自己國會基於權力分立的原則沒有立院最大這件事在野黨的委員如果沒有辦法清楚的掌握真的秀才遇見兵有理說不清不要說是您啊我每一次朝野協商都氣到火冒三丈啊但我們都在忍辱負重我們都在為國家的前進持續的不放棄溝通\n\n34\n00:12:13,906 --> 00:12:32,411\n我們要提高自己的修養是還好我們都很優雅下一頁講到任性特別預算我們透過修正案的部分停產業顧民生助弱勢也要發現金這都是產業要的救命錢更是弱勢期待的及時雨下一頁\n\n35\n00:12:33,411 --> 00:13:02,014\n所以說讓違憲成為核憲我們提出特別條例的修正案增加到5900億的預算然後呢我非常期待這個週末也就是週五讓這個史上最常研會也最沒有意義的研會至少交出起碼合格的成績單就是讓任性特別條例的預算案能夠對不起修正案能夠順利通過我相信韓院長也會做出努力來進行朝野協商\n\n36\n00:13:02,654 --> 00:13:30,587\n所以如果8月底我們能夠讓特別條例違憲成為合憲立法院通過之後9月就可以編出預算送出預算國會審查最快最快10月可望來執行相關的預算停產業顧名聲發現金駐弱市這是我們共同的期待希望藍白的立委不要再找任何的方式來做\n\n37\n00:13:31,547 --> 00:13:47,291\n為反對而反對的作為下一頁我們對於預算提出調整因為我們需要擴大加碼挺弱勢跟支持產業下一頁我非常不能接受當中有一筆200億強化台電電力設施的預算\n\n38\n00:13:51,892 --> 00:14:11,018\n這200億是用在全台灣的產業園區乃至於工業區要協助產業能夠有穩定的供電更強韌的電網韌性來幫助產業的發展但是目前為止據說在野黨尤其民眾黨的委員似乎磨刀霍霍不給這筆預算\n\n39\n00:14:13,019 --> 00:14:34,085\n吳斯堯來自台北市北市科是北台灣科技狼帶最後一塊拼圖也是我們期待輝達可以進駐如果在野黨的委員何況柯文哲前市長一再把北市科當作他的政績但事實上我要說這是郝龍斌市長任內就殿下的基礎包括吳斯堯擔任市議員我們一起來催生\n\n40\n00:14:37,113 --> 00:15:01,366\n如果現在這200億被民眾黨的委員揚言要砍了我希望不是事實喔那麼對於北市科的發展對於輝達的進駐乃至於其他台灣的工業區產業區的產業的需求就會大受傷害下一頁所以輝達落腳北市科除了黃仁勳說請蔣萬事長加把勁\n\n41\n00:15:03,647 --> 00:15:31,795\n我也希望請藍白的立委不要為反對而反對最後的時間請您來進行說明謝謝委員而且台電的這個預算我已經請他啟動全國電纜地下化的評估他會在初期也把這些評估甚至選定一些發電所需要技術可行的要先行做一些工作出來所以這個預算如果通過早日朝電纜地下化整個電纜韌性安全來做不僅台北受益\n\n42\n00:15:34,787 --> 00:16:02,348\n支持台電電網韌性強化的預算這兩百億是全台灣的產業園區工業區所需要的是我們因應美國的關稅抽集我們停產業不止產業的非常重要的珍貴的預算我也希望不要迷難北市科不要成為北市科發展的絆腳石不要成為歸雜進駐北市科的阻礙我再呼籲再也講說\n\n43\n00:16:04,619 --> 00:16:09,564\n好謝謝好謝謝吳思瑤委員執行謝謝卓院長相關部會首長的備詢謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n7628\t19118\t接下來我們請吳思瑤委員諮詢請侯孟凱委員準備謝謝主席有請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢吳委員好\n28391\t45669\t院長大家辛苦了請息怒誰在硬拗誰在強詞奪理社會自有公斷負責任的執政黨我們努力做到只是可惜忠誠的在野黨在台灣現在還沒有看到我多次的說\n47137\t63051\t國家是大家的預算是全民的預算沒有顏色但是藍白主導的國會卻讓114年以及來年115年的中央財政都陷入了黑暗期\n64954\t80083\t114年是審查總預算史上最混亂刪減最多 凍結最嚴格這是史上未見的一個總預算之亂我們都在全民持續的受苦\n81038\t96258\t但是來年要編列也即將送出的115年總預算我更要說是中央財政有史以來最最黑暗的時期而且這是史上最難編列的一次總預算\n97379\t123645\t稍後我會就追加預算任性特別預算跟年度新的總預算來就教於您我要再次呼籲國會縱使應當嚴格審查但也要合理監督不是胡扯硬凹以為要癱瘓傷害執政黨卻是傷害了自己的國家下一頁\n124795\t150433\t今天我先跟您講文化講文化會讓我們更優雅一點我也期待我卸任幹事長之後我可以回到文化立委的身份去投入我最熱愛也最專業的文化的政策首先在2018年吳斯堯是國會第一位我倡議台灣的國家軟實力就是文化力要善用國際的Mega Event\n151233\t175662\t讓台灣的國家品牌跟上國際的賽會賽事讓世界看見台灣所以當我2018年倡議的時候我那時候的聚焦就是優先從2020年的東京奧運再來2024年的巴黎奧運乃至於2025今年的大阪世博都讓台灣組成文化國家隊讓世界看見台灣下一頁\n176562\t193321\t於是當時的行政院長賴清德他就同意拍板成為我們文化外交的新模式因此2021年我們在東京奧運啟動的台灣Now就是一個最好的開端下一頁\n194321\t220421\t接著在巴黎的奧運上我們又用文化台灣呈現台灣的文化藝術力也獲得世界的掌聲他不只表演藝術視覺藝術我們的策展我們的閱讀所有的文化人集結邁向讓世界看到利用運動賽會的奧運舞台他也是台灣的文化盛會下一頁\n221403\t236423\t所以今年的大阪是博我們的文化部門也是這樣雄心壯志乘勝追擊但是就因為在野黨二砍二刪預算而且鎖定特定的預算就是國際的沒宣費\n238105\t258465\t讓台灣的國際宣傳沒了錢就是形同讓台灣的文化力台灣的聲音在世界背勁聲勒住了脖子勒住台灣自己脖子的人是自己的立法委員自己的國會所以承受了惡果啊今年的大阪市博就是現在八月\n259673\t276230\t然後呢 國際沒宣費被在野黨惡砍之後文化人站出來由楊大正 由吳念真老師發起民間募資要推動我們前進大阪的活動因為要強化宣傳\n277301\t292686\t我們的文化藝術表演界都準備好但沒有文化宣傳費所以發起了民間募資在登場的這一系列35組藝術人超過140場的文化展演共募資光37小時就募資600萬\n294491\t323871\t所以這已經上路的三週的文化展演在大阪獲得無限的掌聲這是第一階段的募資第二階段的募資下一頁就是現在即將要利用如果大阪市博未來要卸幕的時候文化人再啟動一次的募資到現在也有700萬的民間的善款我們要在閉幕的時候We Taiwan這個文化運動要在大阪所有的地鐵\n325031\t353214\t來感謝世界各國支持台灣的力量再一次的行銷台灣而國家沒有錢被國民黨民眾黨惡砍了只好讓民間的文化人來募資韓國瑜院長打算安排朝野的立委九月可以到大阪去見證台灣文化力的實力展現但我要說院長你不覺得國會對不起文化人嗎\n355373\t374760\t國會對不起文化人嗎當我們帶著大批的立委跨黨派的立委要去大阪沾光的時候國會卻是扼砍我們文化國際宣傳的元兇我不曉得韓院長帶著草野的立委去大阪的時候是要抱著什麼心情\n375936\t393468\t我認為國會欠文化人一個道歉文化人站出來搶救文化預算到現在被國民黨的立法委員秋後算帳進行政治的追殺這就是一個惡果啊所以我從文化的事件開始下一頁\n394628\t423189\t所有的惡果都在這一張通宣9391不明就裡還砍過頭國務委員我能回答一句話好請回答為了向委員學習對文化的重視我們明年文化部的預算跟今年一樣我堅持超過300億元我們也達到了這是第一個再來文化部明年有一個計畫要把大阪博覽會相關文化預算回來台灣沒錯我知道你們先去看我們在台灣等\n423885\t445504\t我希望在野黨的立委不要再為難文化了我也支持在新年度的預算國家支持文化軟實力國會不要再惡砍當然非常好大阪這個140場的文化展演確實文化部打算讓它移回台灣讓台灣人也能受惠我絕對支持政府這樣的做法謝謝委員\n446405\t469486\t但是不要再上演去年通山9391還砍過頭還找不到明目砍要行政院自己去調節就產生了6361的這個惡果剛剛在野黨的委員還在這裡大聲指責您我真的是覺得沒有看過這種加害者一再的譴責受害人\n470347\t487808\t而當受害的一方行政團隊想方設法提出解方也就是追加預算來解套來挽救國家的財政推動國家的政務的時候現在這些在野黨的委員還在那邊轉移焦點想要洗白自己的罪行下一頁\n488869\t511650\t追加預算我們即將安排審議明後天的委員會跟週五的院會這也是韓國瑜院長所拋書的就讓砍過頭的預算用追加預算來恢復補回這也是泛藍陣營地方執政的縣市首長共同的呼籲所以呢下一頁\n512671\t532885\t我在這裡說讓施政回歸正軌藍白的立委如果想要洗白自己二彈總預算的罪行不要再擋追加預算了他除了有636億地方補助款之外更有我剛剛說的很重要的中央施政必要的預算下一頁\n534321\t552823\t這些是中央時政各部會真的需要用錢的部分我剛剛講的We Taiwan在大阪的文化行動下一頁我們同樣受到重傷的就是媒體宣傳費不只對外對國際行銷台灣被自己的立法委員掐住了脖子\n555176\t565140\t對內當政策需要對國人進行宣導的時候也被砍光光怎麼做譬如說政策的宣導有什麼風災之後要宣導災民怎麼樣來\n566519\t592748\t加入政府給的協助措施對不對當我們要打詐需要沒宣費告訴政府告訴人民現在政府有哪些打詐的做法包括馬上要普發現金了如果在野黨不要在黨任性特別條例修正案的話發現金的過程這是史上花最多的一次現金他當然需要去宣傳告訴國人怎麼執行不要被詐騙嘛對不對\n594758\t612421\t院長給您最後的時間喊話一下在野黨的委員這是你們真真切切去洗白你們二砍總預算的機會就是支持追加預算院長再次喊話吧在總統指示下我們願意而且會主動的來調整兩院互動關係\n613542\t642501\t所以為了追加預算 為了特別預算為了明年度總預算我們會主動積極來進行溝通協調我也希望大院給我們這個機會但是如果牽涉到是憲法的問題那沒有什麼可以討論的憲法的標準是有一套所以剛剛也許我的語氣比較激動因為委員對於憲政的秩序要了解對於釋憲 對於暫時處分的公用要了解才能在這裡對話\n643862\t666458\t所以我並不願意用一種比較激烈的態度來講話我還是誠誠懇懇拜託大院這一次的中央政府總預算的追加限制到各部會目前的困難自在難行我們更希望一起中央地方來解決現在所遇到的財政問題這個一解決今年度我們解決明年度的中央政府總預算我們回到\n667383\t674552\t合理正常的朝野行商我們該怎麼做包括警消包括軍人如果釋憲出來我們這個條例沒有違憲\n678814\t707148\t我們就補回來 追溯回來如果違憲我們現在發了我請問委員我們現在發了一個違憲的執行是立法院違憲還是行政院違憲還是我們共同違憲我們都不要承擔這個責任我是用這樣的方式跟態度我也請韓院長理解各位委員理解 謝謝所以其實院長您不用覺得對於剛剛可能動了一點氣覺得sorry事實上面對這種在野黨的立委不懂憲政\n708228\t732602\t不懂法律也不懂自己國會基於權力分立的原則沒有立院最大這件事在野黨的委員如果沒有辦法清楚的掌握真的秀才遇見兵有理說不清不要說是您啊我每一次朝野協商都氣到火冒三丈啊但我們都在忍辱負重我們都在為國家的前進持續的不放棄溝通\n733906\t752411\t我們要提高自己的修養是還好我們都很優雅下一頁講到任性特別預算我們透過修正案的部分停產業顧民生助弱勢也要發現金這都是產業要的救命錢更是弱勢期待的及時雨下一頁\n753411\t782014\t所以說讓違憲成為核憲我們提出特別條例的修正案增加到5900億的預算然後呢我非常期待這個週末也就是週五讓這個史上最常研會也最沒有意義的研會至少交出起碼合格的成績單就是讓任性特別條例的預算案能夠對不起修正案能夠順利通過我相信韓院長也會做出努力來進行朝野協商\n782654\t810587\t所以如果8月底我們能夠讓特別條例違憲成為合憲立法院通過之後9月就可以編出預算送出預算國會審查最快最快10月可望來執行相關的預算停產業顧名聲發現金駐弱市這是我們共同的期待希望藍白的立委不要再找任何的方式來做\n811547\t827291\t為反對而反對的作為下一頁我們對於預算提出調整因為我們需要擴大加碼挺弱勢跟支持產業下一頁我非常不能接受當中有一筆200億強化台電電力設施的預算\n831892\t851018\t這200億是用在全台灣的產業園區乃至於工業區要協助產業能夠有穩定的供電更強韌的電網韌性來幫助產業的發展但是目前為止據說在野黨尤其民眾黨的委員似乎磨刀霍霍不給這筆預算\n853019\t874085\t吳斯堯來自台北市北市科是北台灣科技狼帶最後一塊拼圖也是我們期待輝達可以進駐如果在野黨的委員何況柯文哲前市長一再把北市科當作他的政績但事實上我要說這是郝龍斌市長任內就殿下的基礎包括吳斯堯擔任市議員我們一起來催生\n877113\t901366\t如果現在這200億被民眾黨的委員揚言要砍了我希望不是事實喔那麼對於北市科的發展對於輝達的進駐乃至於其他台灣的工業區產業區的產業的需求就會大受傷害下一頁所以輝達落腳北市科除了黃仁勳說請蔣萬事長加把勁\n903647\t931795\t我也希望請藍白的立委不要為反對而反對最後的時間請您來進行說明謝謝委員而且台電的這個預算我已經請他啟動全國電纜地下化的評估他會在初期也把這些評估甚至選定一些發電所需要技術可行的要先行做一些工作出來所以這個預算如果通過早日朝電纜地下化整個電纜韌性安全來做不僅台北受益\n934787\t962348\t支持台電電網韌性強化的預算這兩百億是全台灣的產業園區工業區所需要的是我們因應美國的關稅抽集我們停產業不止產業的非常重要的珍貴的預算我也希望不要迷難北市科不要成為北市科發展的絆腳石不要成為歸雜進駐北市科的阻礙我再呼籲再也講說\n964619\t969564\t好謝謝好謝謝吳思瑤委員執行謝謝卓院長相關部會首長的備詢謝謝\n","txt":"接下來我們請吳思瑤委員諮詢請侯孟凱委員準備謝謝主席有請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢吳委員好\n院長大家辛苦了請息怒誰在硬拗誰在強詞奪理社會自有公斷負責任的執政黨我們努力做到只是可惜忠誠的在野黨在台灣現在還沒有看到我多次的說\n國家是大家的預算是全民的預算沒有顏色但是藍白主導的國會卻讓114年以及來年115年的中央財政都陷入了黑暗期\n114年是審查總預算史上最混亂刪減最多 凍結最嚴格這是史上未見的一個總預算之亂我們都在全民持續的受苦\n但是來年要編列也即將送出的115年總預算我更要說是中央財政有史以來最最黑暗的時期而且這是史上最難編列的一次總預算\n稍後我會就追加預算任性特別預算跟年度新的總預算來就教於您我要再次呼籲國會縱使應當嚴格審查但也要合理監督不是胡扯硬凹以為要癱瘓傷害執政黨卻是傷害了自己的國家下一頁\n今天我先跟您講文化講文化會讓我們更優雅一點我也期待我卸任幹事長之後我可以回到文化立委的身份去投入我最熱愛也最專業的文化的政策首先在2018年吳斯堯是國會第一位我倡議台灣的國家軟實力就是文化力要善用國際的Mega Event\n讓台灣的國家品牌跟上國際的賽會賽事讓世界看見台灣所以當我2018年倡議的時候我那時候的聚焦就是優先從2020年的東京奧運再來2024年的巴黎奧運乃至於2025今年的大阪世博都讓台灣組成文化國家隊讓世界看見台灣下一頁\n於是當時的行政院長賴清德他就同意拍板成為我們文化外交的新模式因此2021年我們在東京奧運啟動的台灣Now就是一個最好的開端下一頁\n接著在巴黎的奧運上我們又用文化台灣呈現台灣的文化藝術力也獲得世界的掌聲他不只表演藝術視覺藝術我們的策展我們的閱讀所有的文化人集結邁向讓世界看到利用運動賽會的奧運舞台他也是台灣的文化盛會下一頁\n所以今年的大阪是博我們的文化部門也是這樣雄心壯志乘勝追擊但是就因為在野黨二砍二刪預算而且鎖定特定的預算就是國際的沒宣費\n讓台灣的國際宣傳沒了錢就是形同讓台灣的文化力台灣的聲音在世界背勁聲勒住了脖子勒住台灣自己脖子的人是自己的立法委員自己的國會所以承受了惡果啊今年的大阪市博就是現在八月\n然後呢 國際沒宣費被在野黨惡砍之後文化人站出來由楊大正 由吳念真老師發起民間募資要推動我們前進大阪的活動因為要強化宣傳\n我們的文化藝術表演界都準備好但沒有文化宣傳費所以發起了民間募資在登場的這一系列35組藝術人超過140場的文化展演共募資光37小時就募資600萬\n所以這已經上路的三週的文化展演在大阪獲得無限的掌聲這是第一階段的募資第二階段的募資下一頁就是現在即將要利用如果大阪市博未來要卸幕的時候文化人再啟動一次的募資到現在也有700萬的民間的善款我們要在閉幕的時候We Taiwan這個文化運動要在大阪所有的地鐵\n來感謝世界各國支持台灣的力量再一次的行銷台灣而國家沒有錢被國民黨民眾黨惡砍了只好讓民間的文化人來募資韓國瑜院長打算安排朝野的立委九月可以到大阪去見證台灣文化力的實力展現但我要說院長你不覺得國會對不起文化人嗎\n國會對不起文化人嗎當我們帶著大批的立委跨黨派的立委要去大阪沾光的時候國會卻是扼砍我們文化國際宣傳的元兇我不曉得韓院長帶著草野的立委去大阪的時候是要抱著什麼心情\n我認為國會欠文化人一個道歉文化人站出來搶救文化預算到現在被國民黨的立法委員秋後算帳進行政治的追殺這就是一個惡果啊所以我從文化的事件開始下一頁\n所有的惡果都在這一張通宣9391不明就裡還砍過頭國務委員我能回答一句話好請回答為了向委員學習對文化的重視我們明年文化部的預算跟今年一樣我堅持超過300億元我們也達到了這是第一個再來文化部明年有一個計畫要把大阪博覽會相關文化預算回來台灣沒錯我知道你們先去看我們在台灣等\n我希望在野黨的立委不要再為難文化了我也支持在新年度的預算國家支持文化軟實力國會不要再惡砍當然非常好大阪這個140場的文化展演確實文化部打算讓它移回台灣讓台灣人也能受惠我絕對支持政府這樣的做法謝謝委員\n但是不要再上演去年通山9391還砍過頭還找不到明目砍要行政院自己去調節就產生了6361的這個惡果剛剛在野黨的委員還在這裡大聲指責您我真的是覺得沒有看過這種加害者一再的譴責受害人\n而當受害的一方行政團隊想方設法提出解方也就是追加預算來解套來挽救國家的財政推動國家的政務的時候現在這些在野黨的委員還在那邊轉移焦點想要洗白自己的罪行下一頁\n追加預算我們即將安排審議明後天的委員會跟週五的院會這也是韓國瑜院長所拋書的就讓砍過頭的預算用追加預算來恢復補回這也是泛藍陣營地方執政的縣市首長共同的呼籲所以呢下一頁\n我在這裡說讓施政回歸正軌藍白的立委如果想要洗白自己二彈總預算的罪行不要再擋追加預算了他除了有636億地方補助款之外更有我剛剛說的很重要的中央施政必要的預算下一頁\n這些是中央時政各部會真的需要用錢的部分我剛剛講的We Taiwan在大阪的文化行動下一頁我們同樣受到重傷的就是媒體宣傳費不只對外對國際行銷台灣被自己的立法委員掐住了脖子\n對內當政策需要對國人進行宣導的時候也被砍光光怎麼做譬如說政策的宣導有什麼風災之後要宣導災民怎麼樣來\n加入政府給的協助措施對不對當我們要打詐需要沒宣費告訴政府告訴人民現在政府有哪些打詐的做法包括馬上要普發現金了如果在野黨不要在黨任性特別條例修正案的話發現金的過程這是史上花最多的一次現金他當然需要去宣傳告訴國人怎麼執行不要被詐騙嘛對不對\n院長給您最後的時間喊話一下在野黨的委員這是你們真真切切去洗白你們二砍總預算的機會就是支持追加預算院長再次喊話吧在總統指示下我們願意而且會主動的來調整兩院互動關係\n所以為了追加預算 為了特別預算為了明年度總預算我們會主動積極來進行溝通協調我也希望大院給我們這個機會但是如果牽涉到是憲法的問題那沒有什麼可以討論的憲法的標準是有一套所以剛剛也許我的語氣比較激動因為委員對於憲政的秩序要了解對於釋憲 對於暫時處分的公用要了解才能在這裡對話\n所以我並不願意用一種比較激烈的態度來講話我還是誠誠懇懇拜託大院這一次的中央政府總預算的追加限制到各部會目前的困難自在難行我們更希望一起中央地方來解決現在所遇到的財政問題這個一解決今年度我們解決明年度的中央政府總預算我們回到\n合理正常的朝野行商我們該怎麼做包括警消包括軍人如果釋憲出來我們這個條例沒有違憲\n我們就補回來 追溯回來如果違憲我們現在發了我請問委員我們現在發了一個違憲的執行是立法院違憲還是行政院違憲還是我們共同違憲我們都不要承擔這個責任我是用這樣的方式跟態度我也請韓院長理解各位委員理解 謝謝所以其實院長您不用覺得對於剛剛可能動了一點氣覺得sorry事實上面對這種在野黨的立委不懂憲政\n不懂法律也不懂自己國會基於權力分立的原則沒有立院最大這件事在野黨的委員如果沒有辦法清楚的掌握真的秀才遇見兵有理說不清不要說是您啊我每一次朝野協商都氣到火冒三丈啊但我們都在忍辱負重我們都在為國家的前進持續的不放棄溝通\n我們要提高自己的修養是還好我們都很優雅下一頁講到任性特別預算我們透過修正案的部分停產業顧民生助弱勢也要發現金這都是產業要的救命錢更是弱勢期待的及時雨下一頁\n所以說讓違憲成為核憲我們提出特別條例的修正案增加到5900億的預算然後呢我非常期待這個週末也就是週五讓這個史上最常研會也最沒有意義的研會至少交出起碼合格的成績單就是讓任性特別條例的預算案能夠對不起修正案能夠順利通過我相信韓院長也會做出努力來進行朝野協商\n所以如果8月底我們能夠讓特別條例違憲成為合憲立法院通過之後9月就可以編出預算送出預算國會審查最快最快10月可望來執行相關的預算停產業顧名聲發現金駐弱市這是我們共同的期待希望藍白的立委不要再找任何的方式來做\n為反對而反對的作為下一頁我們對於預算提出調整因為我們需要擴大加碼挺弱勢跟支持產業下一頁我非常不能接受當中有一筆200億強化台電電力設施的預算\n這200億是用在全台灣的產業園區乃至於工業區要協助產業能夠有穩定的供電更強韌的電網韌性來幫助產業的發展但是目前為止據說在野黨尤其民眾黨的委員似乎磨刀霍霍不給這筆預算\n吳斯堯來自台北市北市科是北台灣科技狼帶最後一塊拼圖也是我們期待輝達可以進駐如果在野黨的委員何況柯文哲前市長一再把北市科當作他的政績但事實上我要說這是郝龍斌市長任內就殿下的基礎包括吳斯堯擔任市議員我們一起來催生\n如果現在這200億被民眾黨的委員揚言要砍了我希望不是事實喔那麼對於北市科的發展對於輝達的進駐乃至於其他台灣的工業區產業區的產業的需求就會大受傷害下一頁所以輝達落腳北市科除了黃仁勳說請蔣萬事長加把勁\n我也希望請藍白的立委不要為反對而反對最後的時間請您來進行說明謝謝委員而且台電的這個預算我已經請他啟動全國電纜地下化的評估他會在初期也把這些評估甚至選定一些發電所需要技術可行的要先行做一些工作出來所以這個預算如果通過早日朝電纜地下化整個電纜韌性安全來做不僅台北受益\n支持台電電網韌性強化的預算這兩百億是全台灣的產業園區工業區所需要的是我們因應美國的關稅抽集我們停產業不止產業的非常重要的珍貴的預算我也希望不要迷難北市科不要成為北市科發展的絆腳石不要成為歸雜進駐北市科的阻礙我再呼籲再也講說\n好謝謝好謝謝吳思瑤委員執行謝謝卓院長相關部會首長的備詢謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.628 --> 00:19.118\n接下來我們請吳思瑤委員諮詢請侯孟凱委員準備謝謝主席有請卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢吳委員好\n\n00:28.391 --> 00:45.669\n院長大家辛苦了請息怒誰在硬拗誰在強詞奪理社會自有公斷負責任的執政黨我們努力做到只是可惜忠誠的在野黨在台灣現在還沒有看到我多次的說\n\n00:47.137 --> 01:03.051\n國家是大家的預算是全民的預算沒有顏色但是藍白主導的國會卻讓114年以及來年115年的中央財政都陷入了黑暗期\n\n01:04.954 --> 01:20.083\n114年是審查總預算史上最混亂刪減最多凍結最嚴格這是史上未見的一個總預算之亂我們都在全民持續的受苦\n\n01:21.038 --> 01:36.258\n但是來年要編列也即將送出的115年總預算我更要說是中央財政有史以來最最黑暗的時期而且這是史上最難編列的一次總預算\n\n01:37.379 --> 02:03.645\n稍後我會就追加預算任性特別預算跟年度新的總預算來就教於您我要再次呼籲國會縱使應當嚴格審查但也要合理監督不是胡扯硬凹以為要癱瘓傷害執政黨卻是傷害了自己的國家下一頁\n\n02:04.795 --> 02:30.433\n今天我先跟您講文化講文化會讓我們更優雅一點我也期待我卸任幹事長之後我可以回到文化立委的身份去投入我最熱愛也最專業的文化的政策首先在2018年吳斯堯是國會第一位我倡議台灣的國家軟實力就是文化力要善用國際的MegaEvent\n\n02:31.233 --> 02:55.662\n讓台灣的國家品牌跟上國際的賽會賽事讓世界看見台灣所以當我2018年倡議的時候我那時候的聚焦就是優先從2020年的東京奧運再來2024年的巴黎奧運乃至於2025今年的大阪世博都讓台灣組成文化國家隊讓世界看見台灣下一頁\n\n02:56.562 --> 03:13.321\n於是當時的行政院長賴清德他就同意拍板成為我們文化外交的新模式因此2021年我們在東京奧運啟動的台灣Now就是一個最好的開端下一頁\n\n03:14.321 --> 03:40.421\n接著在巴黎的奧運上我們又用文化台灣呈現台灣的文化藝術力也獲得世界的掌聲他不只表演藝術視覺藝術我們的策展我們的閱讀所有的文化人集結邁向讓世界看到利用運動賽會的奧運舞台他也是台灣的文化盛會下一頁\n\n03:41.403 --> 03:56.423\n所以今年的大阪是博我們的文化部門也是這樣雄心壯志乘勝追擊但是就因為在野黨二砍二刪預算而且鎖定特定的預算就是國際的沒宣費\n\n03:58.105 --> 04:18.465\n讓台灣的國際宣傳沒了錢就是形同讓台灣的文化力台灣的聲音在世界背勁聲勒住了脖子勒住台灣自己脖子的人是自己的立法委員自己的國會所以承受了惡果啊今年的大阪市博就是現在八月\n\n04:19.673 --> 04:36.230\n然後呢國際沒宣費被在野黨惡砍之後文化人站出來由楊大正由吳念真老師發起民間募資要推動我們前進大阪的活動因為要強化宣傳\n\n04:37.301 --> 04:52.686\n我們的文化藝術表演界都準備好但沒有文化宣傳費所以發起了民間募資在登場的這一系列35組藝術人超過140場的文化展演共募資光37小時就募資600萬\n\n04:54.491 --> 05:23.871\n所以這已經上路的三週的文化展演在大阪獲得無限的掌聲這是第一階段的募資第二階段的募資下一頁就是現在即將要利用如果大阪市博未來要卸幕的時候文化人再啟動一次的募資到現在也有700萬的民間的善款我們要在閉幕的時候WeTaiwan這個文化運動要在大阪所有的地鐵\n\n05:25.031 --> 05:53.214\n來感謝世界各國支持台灣的力量再一次的行銷台灣而國家沒有錢被國民黨民眾黨惡砍了只好讓民間的文化人來募資韓國瑜院長打算安排朝野的立委九月可以到大阪去見證台灣文化力的實力展現但我要說院長你不覺得國會對不起文化人嗎\n\n05:55.373 --> 06:14.760\n國會對不起文化人嗎當我們帶著大批的立委跨黨派的立委要去大阪沾光的時候國會卻是扼砍我們文化國際宣傳的元兇我不曉得韓院長帶著草野的立委去大阪的時候是要抱著什麼心情\n\n06:15.936 --> 06:33.468\n我認為國會欠文化人一個道歉文化人站出來搶救文化預算到現在被國民黨的立法委員秋後算帳進行政治的追殺這就是一個惡果啊所以我從文化的事件開始下一頁\n\n06:34.628 --> 07:03.189\n所有的惡果都在這一張通宣9391不明就裡還砍過頭國務委員我能回答一句話好請回答為了向委員學習對文化的重視我們明年文化部的預算跟今年一樣我堅持超過300億元我們也達到了這是第一個再來文化部明年有一個計畫要把大阪博覽會相關文化預算回來台灣沒錯我知道你們先去看我們在台灣等\n\n07:03.885 --> 07:25.504\n我希望在野黨的立委不要再為難文化了我也支持在新年度的預算國家支持文化軟實力國會不要再惡砍當然非常好大阪這個140場的文化展演確實文化部打算讓它移回台灣讓台灣人也能受惠我絕對支持政府這樣的做法謝謝委員\n\n07:26.405 --> 07:49.486\n但是不要再上演去年通山9391還砍過頭還找不到明目砍要行政院自己去調節就產生了6361的這個惡果剛剛在野黨的委員還在這裡大聲指責您我真的是覺得沒有看過這種加害者一再的譴責受害人\n\n07:50.347 --> 08:07.808\n而當受害的一方行政團隊想方設法提出解方也就是追加預算來解套來挽救國家的財政推動國家的政務的時候現在這些在野黨的委員還在那邊轉移焦點想要洗白自己的罪行下一頁\n\n08:08.869 --> 08:31.650\n追加預算我們即將安排審議明後天的委員會跟週五的院會這也是韓國瑜院長所拋書的就讓砍過頭的預算用追加預算來恢復補回這也是泛藍陣營地方執政的縣市首長共同的呼籲所以呢下一頁\n\n08:32.671 --> 08:52.885\n我在這裡說讓施政回歸正軌藍白的立委如果想要洗白自己二彈總預算的罪行不要再擋追加預算了他除了有636億地方補助款之外更有我剛剛說的很重要的中央施政必要的預算下一頁\n\n08:54.321 --> 09:12.823\n這些是中央時政各部會真的需要用錢的部分我剛剛講的WeTaiwan在大阪的文化行動下一頁我們同樣受到重傷的就是媒體宣傳費不只對外對國際行銷台灣被自己的立法委員掐住了脖子\n\n09:15.176 --> 09:25.140\n對內當政策需要對國人進行宣導的時候也被砍光光怎麼做譬如說政策的宣導有什麼風災之後要宣導災民怎麼樣來\n\n09:26.519 --> 09:52.748\n加入政府給的協助措施對不對當我們要打詐需要沒宣費告訴政府告訴人民現在政府有哪些打詐的做法包括馬上要普發現金了如果在野黨不要在黨任性特別條例修正案的話發現金的過程這是史上花最多的一次現金他當然需要去宣傳告訴國人怎麼執行不要被詐騙嘛對不對\n\n09:54.758 --> 10:12.421\n院長給您最後的時間喊話一下在野黨的委員這是你們真真切切去洗白你們二砍總預算的機會就是支持追加預算院長再次喊話吧在總統指示下我們願意而且會主動的來調整兩院互動關係\n\n10:13.542 --> 10:42.501\n所以為了追加預算為了特別預算為了明年度總預算我們會主動積極來進行溝通協調我也希望大院給我們這個機會但是如果牽涉到是憲法的問題那沒有什麼可以討論的憲法的標準是有一套所以剛剛也許我的語氣比較激動因為委員對於憲政的秩序要了解對於釋憲對於暫時處分的公用要了解才能在這裡對話\n\n10:43.862 --> 11:06.458\n所以我並不願意用一種比較激烈的態度來講話我還是誠誠懇懇拜託大院這一次的中央政府總預算的追加限制到各部會目前的困難自在難行我們更希望一起中央地方來解決現在所遇到的財政問題這個一解決今年度我們解決明年度的中央政府總預算我們回到\n\n11:07.383 --> 11:14.552\n合理正常的朝野行商我們該怎麼做包括警消包括軍人如果釋憲出來我們這個條例沒有違憲\n\n11:18.814 --> 11:47.148\n我們就補回來追溯回來如果違憲我們現在發了我請問委員我們現在發了一個違憲的執行是立法院違憲還是行政院違憲還是我們共同違憲我們都不要承擔這個責任我是用這樣的方式跟態度我也請韓院長理解各位委員理解謝謝所以其實院長您不用覺得對於剛剛可能動了一點氣覺得sorry事實上面對這種在野黨的立委不懂憲政\n\n11:48.228 --> 12:12.602\n不懂法律也不懂自己國會基於權力分立的原則沒有立院最大這件事在野黨的委員如果沒有辦法清楚的掌握真的秀才遇見兵有理說不清不要說是您啊我每一次朝野協商都氣到火冒三丈啊但我們都在忍辱負重我們都在為國家的前進持續的不放棄溝通\n\n12:13.906 --> 12:32.411\n我們要提高自己的修養是還好我們都很優雅下一頁講到任性特別預算我們透過修正案的部分停產業顧民生助弱勢也要發現金這都是產業要的救命錢更是弱勢期待的及時雨下一頁\n\n12:33.411 --> 13:02.014\n所以說讓違憲成為核憲我們提出特別條例的修正案增加到5900億的預算然後呢我非常期待這個週末也就是週五讓這個史上最常研會也最沒有意義的研會至少交出起碼合格的成績單就是讓任性特別條例的預算案能夠對不起修正案能夠順利通過我相信韓院長也會做出努力來進行朝野協商\n\n13:02.654 --> 13:30.587\n所以如果8月底我們能夠讓特別條例違憲成為合憲立法院通過之後9月就可以編出預算送出預算國會審查最快最快10月可望來執行相關的預算停產業顧名聲發現金駐弱市這是我們共同的期待希望藍白的立委不要再找任何的方式來做\n\n13:31.547 --> 13:47.291\n為反對而反對的作為下一頁我們對於預算提出調整因為我們需要擴大加碼挺弱勢跟支持產業下一頁我非常不能接受當中有一筆200億強化台電電力設施的預算\n\n13:51.892 --> 14:11.018\n這200億是用在全台灣的產業園區乃至於工業區要協助產業能夠有穩定的供電更強韌的電網韌性來幫助產業的發展但是目前為止據說在野黨尤其民眾黨的委員似乎磨刀霍霍不給這筆預算\n\n14:13.019 --> 14:34.085\n吳斯堯來自台北市北市科是北台灣科技狼帶最後一塊拼圖也是我們期待輝達可以進駐如果在野黨的委員何況柯文哲前市長一再把北市科當作他的政績但事實上我要說這是郝龍斌市長任內就殿下的基礎包括吳斯堯擔任市議員我們一起來催生\n\n14:37.113 --> 15:01.366\n如果現在這200億被民眾黨的委員揚言要砍了我希望不是事實喔那麼對於北市科的發展對於輝達的進駐乃至於其他台灣的工業區產業區的產業的需求就會大受傷害下一頁所以輝達落腳北市科除了黃仁勳說請蔣萬事長加把勁\n\n15:03.647 --> 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TAIWAN」這個文化運動要在大阪所有的地鐵來感謝世界各國支持臺灣的力量，再一次的行銷臺灣，而國家沒有錢，被國民黨、民眾黨惡砍了，只好讓民間的文化人來募資。韓國瑜院長打算安排朝野的立委在9月份可以到大阪去見證臺灣文化力的實力展現，但我要說：院長，你不覺得國會對不起文化人嗎？國會對不起文化人嗎？當我們帶著大批跨黨派的立委要去大阪沾光的時候，國會卻是惡砍我們文化國際宣傳的元兇。我不曉得韓院長帶著朝野的立委去大阪的時候，是要抱著什麼心情？我認為國會欠文化人一個道歉，文化人站出來搶救文化預算，到現在還被國民黨的立法委員秋後算帳，進行政治的追殺，這就是一個惡果。所以我從文化的事件開始，所有的惡果都在這一張通刪939億的提案，不明就裡還砍過頭。"],["卓院長榮泰：委員，我能回答一句話嗎？"],["吳委員思瑤：好，請回答。"],["卓院長榮泰：為了向委員學習對文化的重視，我們明年文化部的預算跟今年一樣，我堅持超過300億元，我們也達到了，這是第一個。再來，文化部明年有一個計畫是要把大阪博覽會的相關文化展演移回來臺灣……"],["吳委員思瑤：移回來，沒錯！我知道。"],["卓院長榮泰：你們先去看，我們在臺灣等。"],["吳委員思瑤：我希望在野黨的立委不要再為難文化了，我也支持在新年度的預算，國家支持文化軟實力，國會不要再惡砍。當然非常好，大阪這140場的文化展演，確實文化部打算讓它移回臺灣，讓臺灣人也能受惠，我絕對支持政府這樣的作法。"],["卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員。"],["吳委員思瑤：但是不要再上演去年通刪939億、還砍過頭，還找不到名目砍，要行政院自己去調節，結果就產生了636億的這個惡果。剛剛在野黨的委員還在這裡大聲指責您，我真的覺得沒有看過這種加害者一再的譴責受害人，而當受害一方的行政團隊想方設法提出解方，也就是追加預算來解套、來挽救國家的財政及推動國家的政務的時候，現在這些在野黨的委員還在那邊轉移焦點，想要洗白自己的罪行。對於追加預算案，我們即將安排審議，也就是明後天的委員會跟周五的院會，這也是韓國瑜院長所拋出的，就讓砍過頭的預算用追加預算來恢復補回，這也是泛藍陣營地方執政的縣市首長共同的呼籲，所以我在這裡說：讓施政回歸正軌。藍白的立委如果想要洗白自己惡砍總預算的罪行，不要再擋追加預算了，除了有636億地方補助款之外，更有我剛剛提到很重要的中央施政必要的預算。","簡報上的這些項目是中央施政各部會真的需要用錢的部分，我剛剛提到的在大阪的文化行動「We TAIWAN」，我們同樣受到重傷的就是媒體宣傳費，不只對外、對國際行銷臺灣，被自己的立法委員掐住了脖子，對內當政策需要對國人進行宣導的時候，也被砍光光，怎麼做？譬如政策的宣導有什麼？風災之後要宣導，讓災民知道怎麼樣來加入政府給予的協助措施，對不對？當我們要打詐需要媒宣費告訴人民，現在政府有哪些打詐的作法，包括馬上要普發現金了，如果在野黨不要再擋韌性特別條例修正案的話，發現金的過程，這是史上花最多的一次現金，它當然需要去宣傳告訴國人怎麼執行，不要被詐騙嘛，對不對？院長給您最後的時間喊話一下：在野黨的委員，這是你們真真切切去洗白你們惡砍總預算的機會，就是支持追加預算。院長再次喊話吧！"],["卓院長榮泰：在總統指示下，我們願意而且會主動的來調整兩院互動關係，所以為了追加預算、為了特別預算及為了明年度總預算，我們會主動積極來進行溝通協調，我也希望大院給我們這個機會，但是如果牽涉到憲法的問題，那沒有什麼可以討論的。憲法的標準只有一套，所以剛剛也許我的語氣比較激動，因為委員對於憲政的秩序要瞭解，對於釋憲、對於暫時處分的功用要瞭解，才能在這裡對話。我並不願意用一種比較激烈的態度來講話，我還是誠誠懇懇地拜託大院，這一次中央政府總預算的追加，牽涉到各部會目前的困難、窒礙難行，我們更希望中央、地方一起來解決現在所遇到的財政問題。這個部分今年度我們解決了，明年度的中央政府總預算回到合理正常的朝野協商，至於我們該怎麼做，包括警消、包括軍人，如果釋憲出來的結果是這個條例沒有違憲，我們就補回來、追溯回來。"],["吳委員思瑤：沒錯、沒錯！"],["卓院長榮泰：如果違憲而我們現在發了，請問委員……"],["吳委員思瑤：怎麼退回？怎麼追回呢？"],["卓院長榮泰：我們現在發了一個違憲的執行，是立法院違憲？還是行政院違憲？還是我們共同違憲？我們都不要承擔這個責任，我是用這樣的方式跟態度，也請韓院長跟各位委員理解，謝謝。"],["吳委員思瑤：我理解，其實院長您不用對於剛剛可能動了一點氣覺得sorry，事實上，面對這種在野黨的立委不懂憲政、不懂法律，也不懂國會基於權力分立的原則沒有立院最大這件事，在野黨的委員如果沒有辦法清楚的掌握，真的是秀才遇見兵，有理說不清！不要說是您，我在每一次朝野協商都氣到火冒三丈，但我們都在忍辱負重，我們都在為國家的前進持續地不放棄溝通。"],["卓院長榮泰：我們要提高自己的修養。"],["吳委員思瑤：是，還好我們都很優雅。講到韌性特別預算，我們透過修正案挺產業、顧民生、助弱勢，也要發現金，這都是產業要的救命錢，更是弱勢期待的及時雨。為了讓違憲成為合憲，我們提出特別條例的修正案，預算增加到5,900億，我非常期待本週五讓這個史上最長也最沒有意義的延會至少交出起碼合格的成績單，就是讓韌性特別條例的修正案能夠順利通過，我相信韓院長也會做出努力來進行朝野協商。如果8月底能夠讓特別條例違憲成為合憲，立法院通過之後，9月就可以編出預算、送出預算至國會審查，最快10月可望來執行相關的預算。挺產業、顧民生，發現金、助弱勢，這是我們共同的期待，希望藍、白的立委不要再找任何的方式做出為反對而反對的作為。","我們對於預算提出調整，因為需要擴大加碼挺弱勢跟支持產業，我非常不能接受一件事，在當中有一筆200億強化台電電力設施的預算，這200億是用在全臺灣的產業園區，乃至於工業區，要協助產業能夠有穩定的供電，以更強韌的電網韌性來幫助產業的發展。但是目前為止，據說在野黨，尤其是民眾黨的委員，似乎磨刀霍霍不給這筆預算。吳思瑤來自臺北市，北士科是北臺灣科技廊帶最後一塊拼圖，也是我們期待輝達可以進駐於此。何況柯文哲前市長一再把北士科當作他的政績，但事實上我要說這是郝龍斌市長任內就奠下的基礎，包括吳思瑤擔任市議員時一起來催生的。現在這200億被民眾黨的委員揚言要砍了，我希望不是事實，那麼對於北士科的發展、對於輝達的進駐，乃至於其他臺灣的工業區、產業區的產業需求就會大受傷害。所以輝達落腳北士科，除了黃仁勳說請蔣萬安市長加把勁，我也希望藍、白的立委不要為反對而反對。最後的時間，請您來進行說明。"],["卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員，關於台電的這個預算，我已經請他們啟動全國電纜地下化的評估，他們會在初期把這些評估，甚至選定一些發電所需要技術可行的，先行做一些工作出來，所以這個預算如果通過，早日朝電纜地下化、電纜韌性安全來做，不僅臺北受益、全國受益。"],["吳委員思瑤：請在野黨的委員支持台電電網韌性強化預算，這200億是全臺灣的產業園區、工業區所需要的，是我們因應美國關稅衝擊，我們挺產業、扶植產業非常重要的珍貴預算，我也希望不要為難北士科，不要成為北士科發展的絆腳石、不要成為輝達進駐北士科的阻礙。我再一次呼籲在野黨的委員，高抬貴手，支持韌性特別條例跟預算，謝謝。"],["卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝吳思瑤委員質詢，謝謝卓院長及相關部會首長的備詢。","報告院會，現在在議場二樓旁聽的是來自臺中的一群鄉親朋友，我們掌聲歡迎。","接下來請洪孟楷委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":215,"meet_id":"院會-11-3-26","speakers":["韓國瑜","王鴻薇","張啓楷","吳思瑤","洪孟楷","鍾佳濱","許宇甄","陳亭妃","賴士葆","賴惠員","翁曉玲","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe"],"page_start":159,"meetingDate":["2025-08-26"],"gazette_id":"1147401","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1147401_00005"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期第26次會議紀錄","content":"行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長及相關部會首長列席報告「114年度中央政府總預算追加預算\n案」編製經過並備質詢─詢答完畢─","agenda_id":"1147401_00004"}}}