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00:00:55,445\n不好意思啦因為時間有限所以一起請你們上來謝謝啦我想從我們這一次的預算其實我看到我們有把這一次風災所造成的問題大概都有編入可是有幾個比較重要的就是說我們要麻煩我們內政部的部分就是我們的防水加護防水閘門的部分這個很重要因為在過去所有的風災都有\n\n3\n00:00:56,266 --> 00:01:13,545\n大概都有編我們的專案補助那這一次一直遲遲沒有看到所以這個部分那個部長這個部分怎麼處理因為大家非常的期待因為從這一次的丹納斯我們看到之前所有的家戶防水閘門都有發揮作用\n\n4\n00:01:14,085 --> 00:01:34,667\n所以大家非常的期待趕快而且上一次因為預算太少了所以大家都是爭取然後做了之後跟我們區公所市政府來說的時候已經是賣糊了因為他說錢已經贏了所以這次可能我們要依照地方的需求給予更多的預算這可以嗎\n\n5\n00:01:35,188 --> 00:01:59,873\n是謝謝委員委員也多次關心我們現在的做法是這樣第一個如果有列到我們這個特別預算裡面的話我們會比照就是在山陀爾颱風裡面要申請這個水閘門補助的方案一致一視同仁來辦理那但是可能要請縣市政府要提這個案子讓我們內政部的國土署可以來做專案的審查那就可以按照這樣的方式來列入補助的方案\n\n6\n00:02:00,393 --> 00:02:22,458\n那這一次是不是可以由市政府先來做調查就是說在各區來做調查然後有需要的像我們內政部來專案申請可以是這樣嗎就是縣市政府提出一個補助辦法送到我們內政部國土署的話我們就會通案來辦理那還是有預算的問題預算因為這次在審查剛好是屬於我們這個風災的特別條例\n\n7\n00:02:23,838 --> 00:02:43,139\n那風災特別條例如果有列進去是屬於特定的項目的話我們還是會按照風災特別條例所需要的預算編列然後請求這600億裡面看怎麼樣做比較有效的支出因為現在還沒有一個大致上需要多少經費的這樣的認定所以我們就先從辦法程序上先打通以後就比較好辦理\n\n8\n00:02:43,499 --> 00:03:07,348\n好所以就是請台南市政府各縣市政府來擬定所謂的補助辦法送到我們內政部來處理針對家戶的防水閘門的部分做一個辦法來做審議的部分對不對好謝謝謝謝我們的部長那我再請教就是說我們的農民其實農民還有勞工\n\n9\n00:03:09,929 --> 00:03:28,160\n農民勞工待會請我們勞動部就勞工農民他們的一開始我就已經有要求就是紓困貸款因為其實我們這一次補貼雖然說真的很感謝我們行政院以最快的速度都給予過去所沒有的\n\n10\n00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:51,961\n以前都是救助辦法這次都多了補助所以用了補助來彌補了我們在法令上的不足所以真的很感謝我們的行政團隊可是呢總是還是有一些需要幫忙然後再推波助瀾一下所以我們認為農民勞工的紓困貸款是必要的那部長這部分呢\n\n11\n00:03:53,498 --> 00:04:16,969\n我跟委員報告就是我們在一般的天然災害的貸款已經有了那個已經處理那我們現在正在設計所謂的加計的週轉金是那這個加計週轉金的概念就好像過去的那個就是紓困啦對啦只是改變一個名字啦對紓困的概念就改變一個名字那我們希望說用這種方式來協助他用比較低的利率能夠讓他渡過這個難關\n\n12\n00:04:18,109 --> 00:04:39,776\n因為我們在過年的時候我們本身就都會有紓困貸款就是讓農民讓勞工喝粿泥所以我覺得這個部分只是我們改變了一個名詞可是我們一定要趕快辦因為現在開始都要經理署訂了所以經理署訂的當中就需要這些錢所以這個部分要拜託那勞工的勞動部馬上辦法就會出來勞工的部分勞工的部分\n\n13\n00:04:51,869 --> 00:05:04,694\n我們希望農民部然後勞工的部分因為其實有很多他也是必須是有勞工來做紓困貸款所以我們拜託我們財主單位回去轉告一下我們的勞工的部分\n\n14\n00:05:05,794 --> 00:05:34,271\n我們要在治水的部分就是經濟部經濟部的部分其實我們已經在這一次都幫你們盤整了這一次從我們安南去北區其實我們都剩最後一里路從我們六塊寮排水然後新寮新寮中陶寮13天我們其實都幫你們盤整過一次在802的時候我寮水寮幾天了所以有關鍵性像這個新寮中陶寮還有13天就是安中町水長\n\n15\n00:05:35,071 --> 00:05:51,077\n我們發現我們有抽水站但是整個排水系統沒有拉近抽水站所以湘涵非常重要就加上了內政部的湘涵還有排水系統所以這個部分甚至是我們長溪路安中路這個部分都是延續湘涵還有我們的\n\n16\n00:05:53,398 --> 00:06:16,870\n這個淨流崩洪的滯洪池公園下面的還有我們內政部的淺頓市這個一起淺頓市的我們的壓力相含因為我們現在所有的地下管線都已經被阻了你要去刷公所是有困難的所以就要拜託我們內政部就是說在我們的這個潛水壓力相含怎麼跟經濟部來做調配在治水的部分\n\n17\n00:06:17,330 --> 00:06:31,943\n然後另外就是我們交通部在這一次有我們的這個省道縣道鄉道然後市道的一個補助所以當我們管線這一次管線的部分我們知道\n\n18\n00:06:32,403 --> 00:06:59,500\n你又要鋪路又要挖管線在這一次我們經濟部的管線又有補了電力自來水瓦斯燃氣的系統然後還有相關的一些管線的部分所以你們要怎麼去搭配我覺得這是很重要的因為我們錢編了很多因為我們有一個重點我們要拜託在這一次在我們的所有的預算當中一定要做好我們如何做電纜地下化還有地下管線的共構\n\n19\n00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:18,395\n還有我們通訊防災的SOP剛剛NCC有就是我們的事前跟事後防災的SOP這一次非常的混亂所以要拜託NCC的主委這個部分要拜託我們的整個防災通訊的SOP一定要訂定出來謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n11184\t25665\t謝謝主席我是不是可以請內政部農業部交通部然後經濟部這四個部還有我們的NCC好來NCC內政部經濟部農業部交通部\n27003\t55445\t不好意思啦 因為時間有限所以一起請你們上來謝謝啦 我想從我們這一次的預算其實我看到我們有把這一次風災所造成的問題大概都有編入可是有幾個比較重要的就是說我們要麻煩我們內政部的部分就是我們的防水 加護防水閘門的部分這個很重要因為在過去所有的風災都有\n56266\t73545\t大概都有編我們的專案補助那這一次一直遲遲沒有看到所以這個部分那個部長這個部分怎麼處理因為大家非常的期待因為從這一次的丹納斯我們看到之前所有的家戶防水閘門都有發揮作用\n74085\t94667\t所以大家非常的期待趕快而且上一次因為預算太少了所以大家都是爭取然後做了之後跟我們區公所市政府來說的時候已經是賣糊了因為他說錢已經贏了所以這次可能我們要依照地方的需求給予更多的預算這可以嗎\n95188\t119873\t是 謝謝委員 委員也多次關心我們現在的做法是這樣第一個如果有列到我們這個特別預算裡面的話我們會比照就是在山陀爾颱風裡面要申請這個水閘門補助的方案一致一視同仁來辦理那但是可能要請縣市政府要提這個案子讓我們內政部的國土署可以來做專案的審查那就可以按照這樣的方式來列入補助的方案\n120393\t142458\t那這一次是不是可以由市政府先來做調查就是說在各區來做調查然後有需要的像我們內政部來專案申請可以是這樣嗎就是縣市政府提出一個補助辦法送到我們內政部國土署的話我們就會通案來辦理那還是有預算的問題預算因為這次在審查剛好是屬於我們這個風災的特別條例\n143838\t163139\t那風災特別條例如果有列進去是屬於特定的項目的話我們還是會按照風災特別條例所需要的預算編列然後請求這600億裡面看怎麼樣做比較有效的支出因為現在還沒有一個大致上需要多少經費的這樣的認定所以我們就先從辦法程序上先打通以後就比較好辦理\n163499\t187348\t好所以就是請台南市政府各縣市政府來擬定所謂的補助辦法送到我們內政部來處理針對家戶的防水閘門的部分做一個辦法來做審議的部分對不對好謝謝謝謝我們的部長那我再請教就是說我們的農民其實農民還有勞工\n189929\t208160\t農民勞工待會請我們勞動部就勞工農民他們的一開始我就已經有要求就是紓困貸款因為其實我們這一次補貼雖然說真的很感謝我們行政院以最快的速度都給予過去所沒有的\n208960\t231961\t以前都是救助辦法這次都多了補助所以用了補助來彌補了我們在法令上的不足所以真的很感謝我們的行政團隊可是呢總是還是有一些需要幫忙然後再推波助瀾一下所以我們認為農民勞工的紓困貸款是必要的那部長這部分呢\n233498\t256969\t我跟委員報告 就是我們在一般的天然災害的貸款已經有了 那個已經處理那我們現在正在設計所謂的加計的週轉金 是那這個加計週轉金的概念就好像過去的那個 就是紓困啦對啦 只是改變一個名字啦 對 紓困的概念 就改變一個名字那我們希望說用這種方式來協助他用比較低的利率能夠讓他渡過這個難關\n258109\t279776\t因為我們在過年的時候我們本身就都會有紓困貸款就是讓農民 讓勞工喝粿泥所以我覺得這個部分只是我們改變了一個名詞可是我們一定要趕快辦因為現在開始都要經理署訂了所以經理署訂的當中就需要這些錢所以這個部分要拜託 那勞工的勞動部馬上辦法就會出來勞工的部分勞工的部分\n291869\t304694\t我們希望農民部然後勞工的部分因為其實有很多他也是必須是有勞工來做紓困貸款所以我們拜託我們財主單位回去轉告一下我們的勞工的部分\n305794\t334271\t我們要在治水的部分就是經濟部經濟部的部分其實我們已經在這一次都幫你們盤整了這一次從我們安南去北區其實我們都剩最後一里路從我們六塊寮排水然後新寮 新寮 中陶寮13天我們其實都幫你們盤整過一次在802的時候我寮水 寮幾天了所以有關鍵性像這個新寮 中陶寮還有13天就是安中町水長\n335071\t351077\t我們發現我們有抽水站但是整個排水系統沒有拉近抽水站所以湘涵非常重要就加上了內政部的湘涵還有排水系統所以這個部分甚至是我們長溪路安中路這個部分都是延續湘涵還有我們的\n353398\t376870\t這個淨流崩洪的滯洪池公園下面的還有我們內政部的淺頓市這個一起淺頓市的我們的壓力相含因為我們現在所有的地下管線都已經被阻了你要去刷公所是有困難的所以就要拜託我們內政部就是說在我們的這個潛水壓力相含怎麼跟經濟部來做調配在治水的部分\n377330\t391943\t然後另外就是我們交通部在這一次有我們的這個省道縣道鄉道然後市道的一個補助所以當我們管線這一次管線的部分我們知道\n392403\t419500\t你又要鋪路又要挖管線在這一次我們經濟部的管線又有補了電力自來水瓦斯燃氣的系統然後還有相關的一些管線的部分所以你們要怎麼去搭配我覺得這是很重要的因為我們錢編了很多因為我們有一個重點我們要拜託在這一次在我們的所有的預算當中一定要做好我們如何做電纜地下化還有地下管線的共構\n420360\t438395\t還有我們通訊防災的SOP剛剛NCC有就是我們的事前跟事後防災的SOP這一次非常的混亂所以要拜託NCC的主委這個部分要拜託我們的整個防災通訊的SOP一定要訂定出來謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席我是不是可以請內政部農業部交通部然後經濟部這四個部還有我們的NCC好來NCC內政部經濟部農業部交通部\n不好意思啦 因為時間有限所以一起請你們上來謝謝啦 我想從我們這一次的預算其實我看到我們有把這一次風災所造成的問題大概都有編入可是有幾個比較重要的就是說我們要麻煩我們內政部的部分就是我們的防水 加護防水閘門的部分這個很重要因為在過去所有的風災都有\n大概都有編我們的專案補助那這一次一直遲遲沒有看到所以這個部分那個部長這個部分怎麼處理因為大家非常的期待因為從這一次的丹納斯我們看到之前所有的家戶防水閘門都有發揮作用\n所以大家非常的期待趕快而且上一次因為預算太少了所以大家都是爭取然後做了之後跟我們區公所市政府來說的時候已經是賣糊了因為他說錢已經贏了所以這次可能我們要依照地方的需求給予更多的預算這可以嗎\n是 謝謝委員 委員也多次關心我們現在的做法是這樣第一個如果有列到我們這個特別預算裡面的話我們會比照就是在山陀爾颱風裡面要申請這個水閘門補助的方案一致一視同仁來辦理那但是可能要請縣市政府要提這個案子讓我們內政部的國土署可以來做專案的審查那就可以按照這樣的方式來列入補助的方案\n那這一次是不是可以由市政府先來做調查就是說在各區來做調查然後有需要的像我們內政部來專案申請可以是這樣嗎就是縣市政府提出一個補助辦法送到我們內政部國土署的話我們就會通案來辦理那還是有預算的問題預算因為這次在審查剛好是屬於我們這個風災的特別條例\n那風災特別條例如果有列進去是屬於特定的項目的話我們還是會按照風災特別條例所需要的預算編列然後請求這600億裡面看怎麼樣做比較有效的支出因為現在還沒有一個大致上需要多少經費的這樣的認定所以我們就先從辦法程序上先打通以後就比較好辦理\n好所以就是請台南市政府各縣市政府來擬定所謂的補助辦法送到我們內政部來處理針對家戶的防水閘門的部分做一個辦法來做審議的部分對不對好謝謝謝謝我們的部長那我再請教就是說我們的農民其實農民還有勞工\n農民勞工待會請我們勞動部就勞工農民他們的一開始我就已經有要求就是紓困貸款因為其實我們這一次補貼雖然說真的很感謝我們行政院以最快的速度都給予過去所沒有的\n以前都是救助辦法這次都多了補助所以用了補助來彌補了我們在法令上的不足所以真的很感謝我們的行政團隊可是呢總是還是有一些需要幫忙然後再推波助瀾一下所以我們認為農民勞工的紓困貸款是必要的那部長這部分呢\n我跟委員報告 就是我們在一般的天然災害的貸款已經有了 那個已經處理那我們現在正在設計所謂的加計的週轉金 是那這個加計週轉金的概念就好像過去的那個 就是紓困啦對啦 只是改變一個名字啦 對 紓困的概念 就改變一個名字那我們希望說用這種方式來協助他用比較低的利率能夠讓他渡過這個難關\n因為我們在過年的時候我們本身就都會有紓困貸款就是讓農民 讓勞工喝粿泥所以我覺得這個部分只是我們改變了一個名詞可是我們一定要趕快辦因為現在開始都要經理署訂了所以經理署訂的當中就需要這些錢所以這個部分要拜託 那勞工的勞動部馬上辦法就會出來勞工的部分勞工的部分\n我們希望農民部然後勞工的部分因為其實有很多他也是必須是有勞工來做紓困貸款所以我們拜託我們財主單位回去轉告一下我們的勞工的部分\n我們要在治水的部分就是經濟部經濟部的部分其實我們已經在這一次都幫你們盤整了這一次從我們安南去北區其實我們都剩最後一里路從我們六塊寮排水然後新寮 新寮 中陶寮13天我們其實都幫你們盤整過一次在802的時候我寮水 寮幾天了所以有關鍵性像這個新寮 中陶寮還有13天就是安中町水長\n我們發現我們有抽水站但是整個排水系統沒有拉近抽水站所以湘涵非常重要就加上了內政部的湘涵還有排水系統所以這個部分甚至是我們長溪路安中路這個部分都是延續湘涵還有我們的\n這個淨流崩洪的滯洪池公園下面的還有我們內政部的淺頓市這個一起淺頓市的我們的壓力相含因為我們現在所有的地下管線都已經被阻了你要去刷公所是有困難的所以就要拜託我們內政部就是說在我們的這個潛水壓力相含怎麼跟經濟部來做調配在治水的部分\n然後另外就是我們交通部在這一次有我們的這個省道縣道鄉道然後市道的一個補助所以當我們管線這一次管線的部分我們知道\n你又要鋪路又要挖管線在這一次我們經濟部的管線又有補了電力自來水瓦斯燃氣的系統然後還有相關的一些管線的部分所以你們要怎麼去搭配我覺得這是很重要的因為我們錢編了很多因為我們有一個重點我們要拜託在這一次在我們的所有的預算當中一定要做好我們如何做電纜地下化還有地下管線的共構\n還有我們通訊防災的SOP剛剛NCC有就是我們的事前跟事後防災的SOP這一次非常的混亂所以要拜託NCC的主委這個部分要拜託我們的整個防災通訊的SOP一定要訂定出來謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:11.184 --> 00:25.665\n謝謝主席我是不是可以請內政部農業部交通部然後經濟部這四個部還有我們的NCC好來NCC內政部經濟部農業部交通部\n\n00:27.003 --> 00:55.445\n不好意思啦因為時間有限所以一起請你們上來謝謝啦我想從我們這一次的預算其實我看到我們有把這一次風災所造成的問題大概都有編入可是有幾個比較重要的就是說我們要麻煩我們內政部的部分就是我們的防水加護防水閘門的部分這個很重要因為在過去所有的風災都有\n\n00:56.266 --> 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