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00:01:03,412\n基地台跟基礎的結構等等太過於脆弱那如果相較起來為什麼在旱之下都會區的通訊網路比較不受影響那就是所謂的這個電纜有沒有地下化光纖電纜有沒有地下化就是一個很關鍵的因素嘛\n\n4\n00:01:04,213 --> 00:01:19,307\n那卓鋒泰院長已經有指示經濟部跟台電公司要做全國的電力的電纜的地下化的先期的規劃跟評估那NCC也有請電信院者來規劃這個光線的電纜的地下化或增加感線或鐵塔的抗風指數等等\n\n5\n00:01:23,911 --> 00:01:50,564\n那我想這些規劃對於未來的抗災都至關重要畢竟你如果沒有對外的通訊你外界要怎麼進駐救災啦都很難第一時間得到正確的消息所以我想請教陳代主委的是說那這一次風災通訊韌性不足的地方長期目標當然就是全面的所謂的光電纜地下化可是目前你的規劃的進程如何那短期內要有什麼樣的方案去克服這樣的問題\n\n6\n00:01:51,897 --> 00:02:06,597\n是跟委員回報第一點就是我們在任性的部分我們希望在建設請業者建設更多高抗災的基地台所謂高抗災就是說它的中繼回傳到核心網絡部分\n\n7\n00:02:07,438 --> 00:02:34,244\n可以走微波也可以走衛星這一塊我們跟數位部有密切合作今年度會再三架各撥給他們各三台衛星OneWeb的衛星中繼的行動車這是第二部分高抗災記憶體部分高抗災記憶體有些它的中繼也是走微波也是走衛星所以這一塊我們也是同時來雙管齊下另外剛剛委員講的就非常專業就是說\n\n8\n00:02:35,484 --> 00:03:04,163\n正常情況下的走回合網的中繼是走光纖在都會區其實三大業者幾乎都已經地下化沒問題可是在郊區或比較偏遠的地區地下化有它的實質的一些挑戰比方說它可能會有一些道路會崩塌等等之類的即便是老牌子的中華電信它那邊也是自己立電信桿在那邊弄所以這一塊我們會逐步來討論\n\n9\n00:03:05,484 --> 00:03:25,400\n因為光纜地下化這個其實在十幾年前在我們政府有個M台灣計畫有推行過但是當時效果大概還沒有完全達到我們目前的期待那我們未來會跟相關部會來通力來合作那另外也跟\n\n10\n00:03:26,761 --> 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