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謝謝主席 我們請台電的曾董事長來 我們請台電曾董事長是 委員長\n好 董事長早喔這一次的丹納斯颱風全台灣大概3500支電桿倒塌全台大概100萬戶來停電那其中其實高雄受影響很重我們從去年的凱米到山豚到今年的丹納斯每一次都因為這個電纜地下化的問題受到重創那這一次呢其實高雄就有3萬多戶停電\n那我在這邊想要再一次的幫我們選區來爭取因為我們選區的古山路跟登山街這兩條其實我從去年的山陀兒之後就已經跟台電爭取完了那好不容易爭取到了這兩條台電也答應我了結果今年初你們又說因為撥補的問題沒有辦法解決財政困難所以這兩條的預算你們又把它移除了\n那移除之後我對選民很難交代啊那到了現在你們又有了這個風災的特別條例可是我看到裡面你們提到的是遷改線路80億架空線路的有22億然後在國安的任性條例裡面有提到科學園區你們要撥131億然後遷改線路也是有61億架空線路有8億總共有302億這麼多的預算那請問這裡面\n有电缆地下化吗有啊那请问你们这里面的电缆地下化的费用用在哪一些路段已经出来了吗目前规划主要是以省道为最主要优先这是这两个特别条例里面这就是我想问的你们这一次拨的这两个条例里面总共302亿里面只有提到省道只有提到科学园区可是你们之前跟我们选区跳票的内容\n要放在哪里那个台电也有我们每年年度有一部分的预算在做地下化的工作那如果这个地方是比较容易遇到就是比较容易遇到啊所以我这两条才争取这么久董事长我跟您报告我们古山路五年跳电了三十次登山街三年跳电了九次\n就是這麼高每一次發生停電的時候選民都問我說我們這裡是不是次等公民為什麼隔了一條街別人都沒停電就我們停電只要每一次風災一來都是這兩個路段在受損所以去年我好不容易跟你們爭取結果你們現在跟我說沒有\n你们跟我说没有委员我这样子讲你刚才说的事情是高雄区处发生的状况那像我们的副总应该也有去跟您的办公室讨论过这件事没有那这一个部分的工作没有你们跟我们说就算有预算也不一定会编\n就算有預算我們過去爭取到的也一樣可能會跳票這就是台電告訴我的所以我今天特別來這邊質詢就是想告訴你說古山路跟山街這兩條什麼時候要編什麼時候要編\n這不太可能要講報告委員你現在講的古山山路的所有的狀況細節上面包括它可能會牽涉到一些軍事設施的圍牆那圍牆要拆除才有辦法開挖我還要拆除圍牆把它裝回來\n我們陪你們會看我們找軍方陪你們會看我們都會看過啦那時候答應我的就是要示範一段然後登山街也是都已經告訴我不是已經做六成了嗎我也沒有說高雄區處不要做\n什麼叫做不要做我們卓院長都說過總署從來沒有說過說有預算也不要做那委員你一定要講說有預算也不要做我覺得這個事情可能是不合理的地下化不是萬靈丹你們現在不只是推卸責任你們還告訴我說不是萬靈丹地下化不是萬靈丹問題是你們現在連止痛藥都不給啊你們就看著選民在你們面前的痛苦啊\n就是這樣我必須要告訴董事長這就是台電一直以來給我的態度我覺得這不是台電全部的狀況如果出現了部分這樣的情形我會去找我們區處的同仁我早就講過啦你們有找嗎高雄區處如果有這樣子的狀況我們會找高雄區處的狀況看高雄區處哪一個主管我們會找他們來檢討\n所以我在這邊要求你檢討並且把這兩條路段到底要放在哪一筆預算明確的告訴我他有好幾個可能性我要講一個事情現在我們省的特別預算提出來的都是主幹線那台電自有的預算能夠優先做我們會來優先做所以馬連風災的特別預算都不能下來處理我們因為受到風災影響的路段只有省道\n委員我們報告我們很清楚知道在有限的時間跟預算的範圍內我們是不是請董事長再跟我們黃姐委員再多做溝通好不好謝謝我們黃姐委員因為時間到了接下來我們請\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.097 --> 00:12.167\n好謝謝主席我們請台電的曾董事長來我們請台電曾董事長是委員長\n\n00:21.633 --> 00:45.240\n好董事長早喔這一次的丹納斯颱風全台灣大概3500支電桿倒塌全台大概100萬戶來停電那其中其實高雄受影響很重我們從去年的凱米到山豚到今年的丹納斯每一次都因為這個電纜地下化的問題受到重創那這一次呢其實高雄就有3萬多戶停電\n\n00:46.940 --> 00:52.904\n那我在這邊想要再一次的幫我們選區來爭取因為我們選區的古山路跟登山街這兩條其實我從去年的山陀兒之後就已經跟台電爭取完了那好不容易爭取到了這兩條台電也答應我了結果今年初你們又說因為撥補的問題沒有辦法解決財政困難所以這兩條的預算你們又把它移除了\n\n01:14.534 --> 01:38.630\n那移除之後我對選民很難交代啊那到了現在你們又有了這個風災的特別條例可是我看到裡面你們提到的是遷改線路80億架空線路的有22億然後在國安的任性條例裡面有提到科學園區你們要撥131億然後遷改線路也是有61億架空線路有8億總共有302億這麼多的預算那請問這裡面\n\n01:44.013 --> 02:12.218\n有电缆地下化吗有啊那请问你们这里面的电缆地下化的费用用在哪一些路段已经出来了吗目前规划主要是以省道为最主要优先这是这两个特别条例里面这就是我想问的你们这一次拨的这两个条例里面总共302亿里面只有提到省道只有提到科学园区可是你们之前跟我们选区跳票的内容\n\n02:13.274 --> 02:37.112\n要放在哪里那个台电也有我们每年年度有一部分的预算在做地下化的工作那如果这个地方是比较容易遇到就是比较容易遇到啊所以我这两条才争取这么久董事长我跟您报告我们古山路五年跳电了三十次登山街三年跳电了九次\n\n02:37.893 --> 02:56.001\n就是這麼高每一次發生停電的時候選民都問我說我們這裡是不是次等公民為什麼隔了一條街別人都沒停電就我們停電只要每一次風災一來都是這兩個路段在受損所以去年我好不容易跟你們爭取結果你們現在跟我說沒有\n\n02:56.997 --> 03:14.313\n你们跟我说没有委员我这样子讲你刚才说的事情是高雄区处发生的状况那像我们的副总应该也有去跟您的办公室讨论过这件事没有那这一个部分的工作没有你们跟我们说就算有预算也不一定会编\n\n03:15.314 --> 03:23.684\n就算有預算我們過去爭取到的也一樣可能會跳票這就是台電告訴我的所以我今天特別來這邊質詢就是想告訴你說古山路跟山街這兩條什麼時候要編什麼時候要編\n\n03:31.873 --> 03:33.415\n這不太可能要講報告委員你現在講的古山山路的所有的狀況細節上面包括它可能會牽涉到一些軍事設施的圍牆那圍牆要拆除才有辦法開挖我還要拆除圍牆把它裝回來\n\n03:50.350 --> 04:03.290\n我們陪你們會看我們找軍方陪你們會看我們都會看過啦那時候答應我的就是要示範一段然後登山街也是都已經告訴我不是已經做六成了嗎我也沒有說高雄區處不要做\n\n04:04.628 --> 04:16.576\n什麼叫做不要做我們卓院長都說過總署從來沒有說過說有預算也不要做那委員你一定要講說有預算也不要做我覺得這個事情可能是不合理的地下化不是萬靈丹你們現在不只是推卸責任你們還告訴我說不是萬靈丹地下化不是萬靈丹問題是你們現在連止痛藥都不給啊你們就看著選民在你們面前的痛苦啊\n\n04:34.668 --> 04:47.176\n就是這樣我必須要告訴董事長這就是台電一直以來給我的態度我覺得這不是台電全部的狀況如果出現了部分這樣的情形我會去找我們區處的同仁我早就講過啦你們有找嗎高雄區處如果有這樣子的狀況我們會找高雄區處的狀況看高雄區處哪一個主管我們會找他們來檢討\n\n04:59.252 --> 05:24.352\n所以我在這邊要求你檢討並且把這兩條路段到底要放在哪一筆預算明確的告訴我他有好幾個可能性我要講一個事情現在我們省的特別預算提出來的都是主幹線那台電自有的預算能夠優先做我們會來優先做所以馬連風災的特別預算都不能下來處理我們因為受到風災影響的路段只有省道\n\n05:25.393 --> 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