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00:00:37,096\n應該今年可以試營運了今年什麼時候試營運呢年底啊日期我不太記得了啦我那天去看它是可以完工而且那天去看的現場已經在裝修要收賣了所以它\n\n3\n00:00:37,856 --> 00:01:05,767\n今年年底看能不能試營運希望很快好讓這個金門有一個這個我們有一個好的門面第二個來你們那天您那天有特別就是上次我在院會總質詢的時候有質詢經濟部部長然後這個卓院長那有提到這個供水的這個問題就是金門供水韌性的問題那我知道您那天特別有去這個開會到這個金門海淡廠去開會有關金門綠島地區供水改善計畫第三期那做了兩個會議記錄\n\n4\n00:01:07,068 --> 00:01:35,984\n你看這個您是主席嘛提升為提升兩個結論一個為了提升金門地區的供水韌性要積極發展多元的水資源及海淡水為優先考量對吧這第一個結論第二個結論喔建議金門地區既有海淡廠設施改善計畫及金門三萬噸海淡廠興建工程的可行性規劃一併納入離島地區供水改善計畫第三級合併辦理對吧沒錯你知道現在金門的這個水是一天大概兩萬多噸對吧\n\n5\n00:01:36,917 --> 00:01:56,365\n金門的水用水民生用水現在依賴對岸的依賴大陸大概兩萬三千噸大概有兩萬噸每一天要從大陸過來這個您知道所以站在這個國家整體的考量那時候我跟卓院長在立法院質詢有提出也問了經濟部郭部長就是說\n\n6\n00:01:59,622 --> 00:02:16,837\n就是金門的也要有自己自足的供水能力嘛就是供水能力我那天講的就是說海水淡化嘛對就是要有供水能力然後你們覺得說要以海水淡化為優先嘛但是還有其他比方說金門有時候會有下強降雨啊所以那個水都流掉了所以應該有一些\n\n7\n00:02:17,918 --> 00:02:40,077\n比較簡歷的設施希望把這個水留住包括流水設施是不是第三個就是那經常有大霧嘛那個大霧應該有一些設施呢可以利用這個霧啊能夠來產生一些水但這是很微量啦你是不是把霧驅除掉變成水吧有這樣科技啊霧噴到一些金屬啊它會凝結在上面水會滴下來這個也有\n\n8\n00:02:41,858 --> 00:03:06,936\n先例可循有現代的技術就對了可以解除解除物的困擾又得到水這樣子嗎不過還是以海水淡化為主都有啦這幾步都要做啦好那這個很好謝謝你們這個是也是我那時候提出來的那雖然我們部長是健康郭部長健康因素要這個請辭不過還是謝謝他當初有也有跟我們肯定的答案說要做這一個啦那但政策還是要延續吧那所以請問啦這個包括剛剛\n\n9\n00:03:09,258 --> 00:03:31,918\n那個陳主委所提的既有海戰場設施改善工程還有興建三萬噸海戰場的可行性計劃什麼時候會開始呢你們的這個時程你們哪個單位可以回答工程會主委有說了吧這個可行性計劃已經要開始了開始了沒什麼時候要開始做這個計劃然後什麼時候可以加快跟委員報告我們會把它納入到這個\n\n10\n00:03:33,980 --> 00:03:50,794\n綜藏這個計畫啦哪個計畫可能要爭取那個離島建設條例的一些相關的離島經費我先告訴你他現在是可行性評估嘛評估可以先開始吧這個工程會陳主委這你提的吧你說要加快加快是什麼時候我們應該是\n\n11\n00:03:54,676 --> 00:04:21,400\n沒關係可以回答那回答什麼時候呢報告委員那這個是列在我們離島供水計畫的第三期計畫剛核定哪一年可以開始什麼時候可以把可行性計畫評估做好可以告訴我嗎我們原則上這個發包的作業因為他做可行性評估那我們會盡快盡快是什麼時候我時間有限告訴我什麼時候我建議就是以現在來看應該是明年大概六月前可以把可行性計畫做好嗎不是\n\n12\n00:04:22,701 --> 00:04:48,373\n可以開始做可行性計畫一年後開始做可行性喔年底發包喔年底發包六月前又有檔案所以原則上是以明年完成為網目標明年六月前完成啦完成可行性評估會明年六月底完成沒問題吧應該年底還要明年年底喔一個計畫要做一年喔這個要加快啦我沒有那麼多時間啦加快加快我們會加快好謝謝來接著環境部喔對不起時間停一下環境部上來一下環境部\n\n13\n00:04:51,176 --> 00:04:51,338\n進步部長\n\n14\n00:05:00,834 --> 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