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00:02:04,531\n我先問一下主委好了好不好主委最近在也在負責很多的山區的一些這個部分包括交通部的也可以一起上來像很多山區這部分這一次遇到很多的一些豪大雨之後那像一些重要的一些道路跟橋樑特別是有一個那馬下的這個民生橋那當時他主委應該也都了解問題了就當時他其實是有比較多的淤積那變成了現在只要遇到了豪大雨\n\n6\n00:02:05,171 --> 00:02:29,127\n到零了之後他幾乎等於是要被幾乎是等於完全被封掉了啦齁那我問一下主委包括部長好不好交通部長這一塊的橋的部分這個會納入到這一次的整個預算裡面給予來新建的經費嗎呃報告委員這次交通部有一個道路與交通啦那是不是請部長來跟你說明好那部長講一下好了謝謝報告委員這個部分有放進來了\n\n7\n00:02:32,608 --> 00:02:58,790\n有放進來了齁那預定什麼時候可以來開始來我們都已經進入在設計了那大概什麼時候可以來開始來動工這個我會後再提供給委員這個盡快加速好不好因為現在納馬蝦這邊很辛苦啦因為它這個橋面主委跟部長應該也都看過它橋面變成淤積的非常厲害了所以只要好大雨甚至颱風來幾乎等於是整個村子幾乎是沒辦法進出\n\n8\n00:02:59,210 --> 00:03:24,844\n因為安全性的考量不敢讓他進出啦那變成整個就會影響到他幾乎是被封在那個地方那唯一能夠改善的方法大概只有興建橋樑而已那我希望這一塊請部長跟主委啦因為主委負責總統籌的也請部長能夠加速來這個興建啦好不好讓他們這個新的橋能夠來來進速來興建完成要不然的話恐怕在未來的\n\n9\n00:03:26,565 --> 00:03:49,438\n只要遇到好大雨只要遇到颱風幾乎大概這個橋段都要封的啦那幾乎等於他們進出都受到很大影響所以這個很優先啦所以再拜託部長有納進來來拜託主委再大力的督促加快整個工程的進行這對納馬蝦原鄉會非常的重要啦那再來我是不是也問一下農業部好了不好農業部這邊也請教一下\n\n10\n00:03:51,122 --> 00:04:19,156\n這次我們在看到很多地方的它的一些災情的時候其實它是整個野溪包括周邊的一些整個坍塌下來所導致的狀況我在這個位置上面它其實本來是一條溪流啦那基本上是整個完全兩側的部分幾乎是整個坍塌掉了部長這未來用什麼方式比較好的一個處理我想我們在這次特別預算裡面針對農水路還有這些土石流造成的這些波地的一些我們都有便利預算去處理\n\n11\n00:04:20,296 --> 00:04:35,692\n那整個預算的編列如果是在土石流的部分大概是51億左右然後如果說包括如果說水利設施的話大概25億所以加起來大概有70多億來處理這個部分所以後續我們會根據地方政府報也好或是我們\n\n12\n00:04:36,573 --> 00:05:03,229\n不同的委員有建議的部分我們都會去限干然後公共公眾委員會之前也針對縣市政府的需求提出來了所以這個部分我們會盡快來處理因為像這個部分看到現在兩邊的連房子幾乎都淹沒了所以我覺得這一塊面對這種極端氣候的話這個未來要能夠再來優先來思考做一些處理因為這邊的里長跟我說每次只要好大雨大概幾乎都這樣\n\n13\n00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:31,209\n蘇郡挖完了再挖堆到旁邊去然後如果沒有清蘇下來的話那一樣在那個地點那一樣下次豪大雨來一樣就繼續沖刷掉所以整條野溪完全失去了功能好不好這個我希望部長把這幾個地點這六龜的幾個地點把它能夠確切的在現場做一些處理我們希望能夠有效的去根治這些問題好這個部分我想我們會盡快的來看怎麼樣現勘的部分以後再來因為極端氣候的因素現在幾次的颱風\n\n14\n00:05:34,530 --> 00:05:53,114\n不管是整個這一次颱風從台南嘉義上來造成重大的一些損害都很異常包括好大雨也造成很多的一些中南部的農損的一些狀況我也希望未來這一塊能夠依照當時賴總統所講的原則從寬從幽從速從簡的原則來處理這次有幾個我也拜託部長加速來處理\n\n15\n00:05:58,515 --> 00:06:23,761\n農民的感受就很深刻啦你遇到災難的時候像有一個是已經截止了要這個要登記截止了然後我們請部長就延後那包括有幾個是沒有納進來的我們請部長之後能夠加快地方政府的速度啦甚至由中央直接認定而做處理那個對於農民都很有感那現在極端氣候下我們也希望未來在這樣的施政上面能夠更加的有感好不好\n\n16\n00:06:24,532 --> 00:06:42,019\n我想跟委員報告這次從丹大寺颱風到楊柳颱風整個農業的災損如果是樹暴的部分已經將近43億那推估實際的損失大概是超過100多億所以我們是用同理心的角度去協助來農民能夠快我們就盡量來處理\n\n17\n00:06:44,360 --> 00:07:12,759\n謝謝那最後一個山區的部分原鄉的山區它的簡易自來水這次也受到很大的一些重創這經濟部這邊我也希望這一塊他們三個區都已經有報計畫上來的我也希望能夠加速來協助如果連基本的民生的自來水這個至少該給予他們協助的要盡快來完成好不好沒有水沒有自來水可用是很麻煩的一件事情好不好這我也希望計畫都報上來的請經濟部能夠大力來支持好不好好謝謝\n\n18\n00:07:14,462 --> 00:07:15,524\n謝謝賴瑞榮委員那下一位請賴慧媛委員質詢\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n9\t1169\t好謝謝召委我先請一下包括經濟部跟農業然後公共工程委員會好嗎好公共工程委員會還有經濟農業經濟那個經濟次長還有農業部部長\n27469\t44987\t好 謝謝主委辛苦了 次長 部長辛苦了這一次的這個728的雨量下得相當大光整個在高雄8天就累積了2800毫米的這樣一個雨量這樣的雨量其實\n45928\t73402\t比之巴巴風災也非常的幾乎是毫不遜色的那我認為其實在面對這種極端氣候下的時候恐怕未來政府在這一塊要給予更多的一些支持當然要有更新的一些思考包括不管是人員的安全或者是整個包括道路橋樑等等這個在極端氣候下的思考恐怕都必須要有更多新的一些思維那我們也看到了整個這個\n75723\t94493\t呃因為整個山區特別雨量相當巨大包括像昨天高雄臨時又下一場很大的一個好雨然後現在這種極端氣候我面對的挑戰都越來越大但是也更加的考驗呃政府的一些應變跟能力的然後那我知道最近幾位都很辛苦那我想先問一下好像呃這個\n97748\t124531\t我先問一下主委好了好不好主委最近在也在負責很多的山區的一些這個部分包括交通部的也可以一起上來像很多山區這部分這一次遇到很多的一些豪大雨之後那像一些重要的一些道路跟橋樑特別是有一個那馬下的這個民生橋那當時他主委應該也都了解問題了就當時他其實是有比較多的淤積那變成了現在只要遇到了豪大雨\n125171\t149127\t到零了之後他幾乎等於是要被幾乎是等於完全被封掉了啦齁那我問一下主委包括部長好不好 交通部長這一塊的橋的部分這個會納入到這一次的整個預算裡面給予來新建的經費嗎呃 報告委員這次交通部有一個道路與交通啦那是不是請部長來跟你說明好 那部長講一下好了 謝謝報告委員這個部分有放進來了\n152608\t178790\t有放進來了齁 那預定什麼時候可以來開始來我們都已經進入在設計了那大概什麼時候可以來開始來動工這個我會後再提供給委員這個盡快加速好不好 因為現在納馬蝦這邊很辛苦啦因為它這個橋面 主委跟部長應該也都看過它橋面變成淤積的非常厲害了所以只要好大雨 甚至颱風來幾乎等於是整個村子幾乎是沒辦法進出\n179210\t204844\t因為安全性的考量不敢讓他進出啦那變成整個就會影響到他幾乎是被封在那個地方那唯一能夠改善的方法大概只有興建橋樑而已那我希望這一塊請部長跟主委啦因為主委負責總統籌的也請部長能夠加速來這個興建啦好不好讓他們這個新的橋能夠來來進速來興建完成要不然的話恐怕在未來的\n206565\t229438\t只要遇到好大雨只要遇到颱風幾乎大概這個橋段都要封的啦那幾乎等於他們進出都受到很大影響所以這個很優先啦所以再拜託部長有納進來來拜託主委再大力的督促加快整個工程的進行這對納馬蝦原鄉會非常的重要啦那再來我是不是也問一下農業部好了不好農業部這邊也請教一下\n231122\t259156\t這次我們在看到很多地方的它的一些災情的時候其實它是整個野溪包括周邊的一些整個坍塌下來所導致的狀況我在這個位置上面它其實本來是一條溪流啦那基本上是整個完全兩側的部分幾乎是整個坍塌掉了部長這未來用什麼方式比較好的一個處理我想我們在這次特別預算裡面針對農水路還有這些土石流造成的這些波地的一些我們都有便利預算去處理\n260296\t275692\t那整個預算的編列如果是在土石流的部分大概是51億左右然後如果說包括如果說水利設施的話大概25億所以加起來大概有70多億來處理這個部分所以後續我們會根據地方政府報也好或是我們\n276573\t303229\t不同的委員有建議的部分我們都會去限干然後公共公眾委員會之前也針對縣市政府的需求提出來了所以這個部分我們會盡快來處理因為像這個部分看到現在兩邊的連房子幾乎都淹沒了所以我覺得這一塊面對這種極端氣候的話這個未來要能夠再來優先來思考做一些處理因為這邊的里長跟我說每次只要好大雨大概幾乎都這樣\n304390\t331209\t蘇郡挖完了再挖堆到旁邊去然後如果沒有清蘇下來的話那一樣在那個地點那一樣下次豪大雨來一樣就繼續沖刷掉所以整條野溪完全失去了功能好不好 這個我希望部長把這幾個地點這六龜的幾個地點把它能夠確切的在現場做一些處理我們希望能夠有效的去根治這些問題好 這個部分我想我們會盡快的來看怎麼樣現勘的部分以後再來因為極端氣候的因素現在幾次的颱風\n334530\t353114\t不管是整個這一次颱風從台南嘉義上來造成重大的一些損害都很異常包括好大雨也造成很多的一些中南部的農損的一些狀況我也希望未來這一塊能夠依照當時賴總統所講的原則從寬從幽從速從簡的原則來處理這次有幾個我也拜託部長加速來處理\n358515\t383761\t農民的感受就很深刻啦你遇到災難的時候像有一個是已經截止了要這個要登記截止了然後我們請部長就延後那包括有幾個是沒有納進來的我們請部長之後能夠加快地方政府的速度啦甚至由中央直接認定而做處理那個對於農民都很有感那現在極端氣候下我們也希望未來在這樣的施政上面能夠更加的有感好不好\n384532\t402019\t我想跟委員報告這次從丹大寺颱風到楊柳颱風整個農業的災損如果是樹暴的部分已經將近43億那推估實際的損失大概是超過100多億所以我們是用同理心的角度去協助來農民能夠快我們就盡量來處理\n404360\t432759\t謝謝那最後一個山區的部分原鄉的山區它的簡易自來水這次也受到很大的一些重創這經濟部這邊我也希望這一塊他們三個區都已經有報計畫上來的我也希望能夠加速來協助如果連基本的民生的自來水這個至少該給予他們協助的要盡快來完成好不好沒有水沒有自來水可用是很麻煩的一件事情好不好這我也希望計畫都報上來的請經濟部能夠大力來支持好不好好 謝謝\n434462\t435524\t謝謝賴瑞榮委員那下一位請賴慧媛委員質詢\n","txt":"好謝謝召委我先請一下包括經濟部跟農業然後公共工程委員會好嗎好公共工程委員會還有經濟農業經濟那個經濟次長還有農業部部長\n好 謝謝主委辛苦了 次長 部長辛苦了這一次的這個728的雨量下得相當大光整個在高雄8天就累積了2800毫米的這樣一個雨量這樣的雨量其實\n比之巴巴風災也非常的幾乎是毫不遜色的那我認為其實在面對這種極端氣候下的時候恐怕未來政府在這一塊要給予更多的一些支持當然要有更新的一些思考包括不管是人員的安全或者是整個包括道路橋樑等等這個在極端氣候下的思考恐怕都必須要有更多新的一些思維那我們也看到了整個這個\n呃因為整個山區特別雨量相當巨大包括像昨天高雄臨時又下一場很大的一個好雨然後現在這種極端氣候我面對的挑戰都越來越大但是也更加的考驗呃政府的一些應變跟能力的然後那我知道最近幾位都很辛苦那我想先問一下好像呃這個\n我先問一下主委好了好不好主委最近在也在負責很多的山區的一些這個部分包括交通部的也可以一起上來像很多山區這部分這一次遇到很多的一些豪大雨之後那像一些重要的一些道路跟橋樑特別是有一個那馬下的這個民生橋那當時他主委應該也都了解問題了就當時他其實是有比較多的淤積那變成了現在只要遇到了豪大雨\n到零了之後他幾乎等於是要被幾乎是等於完全被封掉了啦齁那我問一下主委包括部長好不好 交通部長這一塊的橋的部分這個會納入到這一次的整個預算裡面給予來新建的經費嗎呃 報告委員這次交通部有一個道路與交通啦那是不是請部長來跟你說明好 那部長講一下好了 謝謝報告委員這個部分有放進來了\n有放進來了齁 那預定什麼時候可以來開始來我們都已經進入在設計了那大概什麼時候可以來開始來動工這個我會後再提供給委員這個盡快加速好不好 因為現在納馬蝦這邊很辛苦啦因為它這個橋面 主委跟部長應該也都看過它橋面變成淤積的非常厲害了所以只要好大雨 甚至颱風來幾乎等於是整個村子幾乎是沒辦法進出\n因為安全性的考量不敢讓他進出啦那變成整個就會影響到他幾乎是被封在那個地方那唯一能夠改善的方法大概只有興建橋樑而已那我希望這一塊請部長跟主委啦因為主委負責總統籌的也請部長能夠加速來這個興建啦好不好讓他們這個新的橋能夠來來進速來興建完成要不然的話恐怕在未來的\n只要遇到好大雨只要遇到颱風幾乎大概這個橋段都要封的啦那幾乎等於他們進出都受到很大影響所以這個很優先啦所以再拜託部長有納進來來拜託主委再大力的督促加快整個工程的進行這對納馬蝦原鄉會非常的重要啦那再來我是不是也問一下農業部好了不好農業部這邊也請教一下\n這次我們在看到很多地方的它的一些災情的時候其實它是整個野溪包括周邊的一些整個坍塌下來所導致的狀況我在這個位置上面它其實本來是一條溪流啦那基本上是整個完全兩側的部分幾乎是整個坍塌掉了部長這未來用什麼方式比較好的一個處理我想我們在這次特別預算裡面針對農水路還有這些土石流造成的這些波地的一些我們都有便利預算去處理\n那整個預算的編列如果是在土石流的部分大概是51億左右然後如果說包括如果說水利設施的話大概25億所以加起來大概有70多億來處理這個部分所以後續我們會根據地方政府報也好或是我們\n不同的委員有建議的部分我們都會去限干然後公共公眾委員會之前也針對縣市政府的需求提出來了所以這個部分我們會盡快來處理因為像這個部分看到現在兩邊的連房子幾乎都淹沒了所以我覺得這一塊面對這種極端氣候的話這個未來要能夠再來優先來思考做一些處理因為這邊的里長跟我說每次只要好大雨大概幾乎都這樣\n蘇郡挖完了再挖堆到旁邊去然後如果沒有清蘇下來的話那一樣在那個地點那一樣下次豪大雨來一樣就繼續沖刷掉所以整條野溪完全失去了功能好不好 這個我希望部長把這幾個地點這六龜的幾個地點把它能夠確切的在現場做一些處理我們希望能夠有效的去根治這些問題好 這個部分我想我們會盡快的來看怎麼樣現勘的部分以後再來因為極端氣候的因素現在幾次的颱風\n不管是整個這一次颱風從台南嘉義上來造成重大的一些損害都很異常包括好大雨也造成很多的一些中南部的農損的一些狀況我也希望未來這一塊能夠依照當時賴總統所講的原則從寬從幽從速從簡的原則來處理這次有幾個我也拜託部長加速來處理\n農民的感受就很深刻啦你遇到災難的時候像有一個是已經截止了要這個要登記截止了然後我們請部長就延後那包括有幾個是沒有納進來的我們請部長之後能夠加快地方政府的速度啦甚至由中央直接認定而做處理那個對於農民都很有感那現在極端氣候下我們也希望未來在這樣的施政上面能夠更加的有感好不好\n我想跟委員報告這次從丹大寺颱風到楊柳颱風整個農業的災損如果是樹暴的部分已經將近43億那推估實際的損失大概是超過100多億所以我們是用同理心的角度去協助來農民能夠快我們就盡量來處理\n謝謝那最後一個山區的部分原鄉的山區它的簡易自來水這次也受到很大的一些重創這經濟部這邊我也希望這一塊他們三個區都已經有報計畫上來的我也希望能夠加速來協助如果連基本的民生的自來水這個至少該給予他們協助的要盡快來完成好不好沒有水沒有自來水可用是很麻煩的一件事情好不好這我也希望計畫都報上來的請經濟部能夠大力來支持好不好好 謝謝\n謝謝賴瑞榮委員那下一位請賴慧媛委員質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.009 --> 00:01.169\n好謝謝召委我先請一下包括經濟部跟農業然後公共工程委員會好嗎好公共工程委員會還有經濟農業經濟那個經濟次長還有農業部部長\n\n00:27.469 --> 00:44.987\n好謝謝主委辛苦了次長部長辛苦了這一次的這個728的雨量下得相當大光整個在高雄8天就累積了2800毫米的這樣一個雨量這樣的雨量其實\n\n00:45.928 --> 01:13.402\n比之巴巴風災也非常的幾乎是毫不遜色的那我認為其實在面對這種極端氣候下的時候恐怕未來政府在這一塊要給予更多的一些支持當然要有更新的一些思考包括不管是人員的安全或者是整個包括道路橋樑等等這個在極端氣候下的思考恐怕都必須要有更多新的一些思維那我們也看到了整個這個\n\n01:15.723 --> 01:34.493\n呃因為整個山區特別雨量相當巨大包括像昨天高雄臨時又下一場很大的一個好雨然後現在這種極端氣候我面對的挑戰都越來越大但是也更加的考驗呃政府的一些應變跟能力的然後那我知道最近幾位都很辛苦那我想先問一下好像呃這個\n\n01:37.748 --> 02:04.531\n我先問一下主委好了好不好主委最近在也在負責很多的山區的一些這個部分包括交通部的也可以一起上來像很多山區這部分這一次遇到很多的一些豪大雨之後那像一些重要的一些道路跟橋樑特別是有一個那馬下的這個民生橋那當時他主委應該也都了解問題了就當時他其實是有比較多的淤積那變成了現在只要遇到了豪大雨\n\n02:05.171 --> 02:29.127\n到零了之後他幾乎等於是要被幾乎是等於完全被封掉了啦齁那我問一下主委包括部長好不好交通部長這一塊的橋的部分這個會納入到這一次的整個預算裡面給予來新建的經費嗎呃報告委員這次交通部有一個道路與交通啦那是不是請部長來跟你說明好那部長講一下好了謝謝報告委員這個部分有放進來了\n\n02:32.608 --> 02:58.790\n有放進來了齁那預定什麼時候可以來開始來我們都已經進入在設計了那大概什麼時候可以來開始來動工這個我會後再提供給委員這個盡快加速好不好因為現在納馬蝦這邊很辛苦啦因為它這個橋面主委跟部長應該也都看過它橋面變成淤積的非常厲害了所以只要好大雨甚至颱風來幾乎等於是整個村子幾乎是沒辦法進出\n\n02:59.210 --> 03:24.844\n因為安全性的考量不敢讓他進出啦那變成整個就會影響到他幾乎是被封在那個地方那唯一能夠改善的方法大概只有興建橋樑而已那我希望這一塊請部長跟主委啦因為主委負責總統籌的也請部長能夠加速來這個興建啦好不好讓他們這個新的橋能夠來來進速來興建完成要不然的話恐怕在未來的\n\n03:26.565 --> 03:49.438\n只要遇到好大雨只要遇到颱風幾乎大概這個橋段都要封的啦那幾乎等於他們進出都受到很大影響所以這個很優先啦所以再拜託部長有納進來來拜託主委再大力的督促加快整個工程的進行這對納馬蝦原鄉會非常的重要啦那再來我是不是也問一下農業部好了不好農業部這邊也請教一下\n\n03:51.122 --> 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