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00:01:21,152\n我想第一時間我也約他到我們這個林邊家東跟我們養殖的一個漁民座談那當時大家關心的議題就是電纜地下化的一個設置的一個時程跟一個方式那當時我知道當然曾董事長這個有一些的思考的想法跟做法啦那尤其是\n\n5\n00:01:22,152 --> 00:01:41,292\n今年我看今年8月16號我們卓院長也正式在對外有講說請我們這個經濟部跟台電針對全國電纜地下化的先行評估的作業我想有做這樣的一個宣示那請問一下市長或董事長目前我們規劃的期程怎麼進行\n\n6\n00:01:42,213 --> 00:01:58,612\n那個跟委員報告就是說那個電網強盛的事情我們一直我們會更加速的來做那其實我們在沿海餘溫的一些做法上其實去年我們做了一些新的變化我想你應該有感受到就是最近這次颱風來\n\n7\n00:01:59,793 --> 00:02:22,425\n其實更換過的電感其實就有擋住颱風意思是說我們用不同的方法做但整體的規劃早上我有承諾過我們會在兩個月內提一個初步的整體的規劃出來但它不是全部地下化就整個強韌因為包含我們這次提的特別預算也是一部分地下化一部分我們加強電感的強度來減少導斷\n\n8\n00:02:25,006 --> 00:02:50,826\n董事長因為前幾天我們的鄉親還在問我這個問題那當然因為他們看到小琉球也感謝台電的支持小琉球已經先出來了小琉球全線都全島都電纜地下化那包含我們的平俄公路在蘇貞昌院長的時候我想這個都經歷颱風的肆虐之後都確保我們的用電安全所以大家都期待這樣一個電纜地下化的案子能夠持續推動但是當然沿海區域的一個這個低窪的一個問題還有所謂的一個維修的問題\n\n9\n00:02:53,608 --> 00:03:11,935\n當初你有我覺得有問題就要提啦至於說那個企產怎麼規劃路程怎麼樣去進行我想大家都可以來配合但是一定要有進度出來啦要不然特別回到訪台大家就歡樂啦就走路啦那尤其是我們這個養殖區這個目前台17線也在進行這個規劃了嘛我想這部分我們都要持續來做對台17線是我們要規劃的\n\n10\n00:03:19,324 --> 00:03:32,052\n董事長因為我知道我們後來包含訪寮也有一些的案子但是後來因為你們說經費不足那如果現在經費到位之後原本一些規劃的案子能不能持續在推動進行我們整個台17線都會整個來規劃訪寮大莊這邊那個東海這邊那個因為上一次是應該是三坨的時候有傾斜\n\n11\n00:03:41,226 --> 00:03:59,272\n那傾斜的那一個部分的狀況我們如果可以來但是因為它旁邊就是餘溫餘溫通常地下水會比較高但是如果可以坐在路的中間不要靠邊上那這個我們要跟公路單位做一些協調這個我已經請交通部陳部長跟公路局長來協助了我們趕快把介面搭起來趕快來做處理好的好謝謝那我們請陳部長\n\n12\n00:04:04,916 --> 00:04:27,542\n部長我想您的業務很繁重那當然就是我還是特別提到上次我在諮詢院長的時候我們還是要求這個整個治山防洪要整個都在您的部裡面包含從林保署也好水保署也好到這個整個我們區排的部分我想有很多需要農業部大力的支持部長能不能承諾一下我們整個在\n\n13\n00:04:28,522 --> 00:04:51,540\n整個治山防洪的這個部分能夠做一個有效的一個系統的一個整治不要切香腸的處理方式我跟委員報告就是在這次的特別預算裡面我們針對了大概治山防洪農水路還有一些波地土石流防災的部分大概編了大概71到72億然後我們年度的預算跟治山防洪有關的年度預算大概是120億所以我們不會說現在的\n\n14\n00:04:55,223 --> 00:05:06,812\n現在問題是因為風災了就用特別預算其他的不用所以我們會把我們整體的經費做有效的運用然後是以災區的這些相關的土質流崩塌的還有需要去處理的部分我們來優先處理\n\n15\n00:05:08,255 --> 00:05:25,675\n這個我們也會請我們縣政府來做配合把整個從山區到我們平地要做一個完整的處理對我們其中的我剛才說的我們在這支裡面大概有將近76.82億是跟農水路或是跟置山防蚊有關的是會請地方政府來執行\n\n16\n00:05:26,816 --> 00:05:55,776\n另外我還要提一個問題我們放寮北市寮有一個海水供應站是我們屏東縣最早的供應站但是輸用30年了最近因為丹納斯颱風造成這個取水管線斷裂然後大量的泥沙也造成抽水馬達一個損害這部分我們請縣政府提報來補助一下我們的經費好我再請我們的那個應該是水路署去看那個漁業署去看一下看那個經費到底規模多大我們再來看怎麼樣處理\n\n17\n00:05:56,496 --> 00:05:58,158\n好那我最後一個問題要請我們內政部劉部長謝謝陳部長劉部這兩個問題兩個部會都要作出處理\n\n18\n00:06:11,031 --> 00:06:28,084\n兩位部長那個我們橫春有個龍鑾潭它是我們一個很重要的一個濕地也是一個後兩的一個棲地但是它也是一個橫春半島這個滯洪的一個很重要的一個水域因為這一次的颱風我們發現因為它的原本的淤積太過嚴重\n\n19\n00:06:29,025 --> 00:06:58,131\n造成它的這個容量有限所以造成恆春市區大淹水那我們有希望在不影響生態的狀況之下因為這也是農水署很重要的一個灌溉的一個來源能不能由墾管處跟農水署怎麼樣來搭配在不影響到生態狀況之下應該要做有效一個清淤然後能夠協助這樣子一個防洪治洪的一個功能我想這個部分是我們農田水利署在負責管轄特別是在當作灌溉用的所以這個部分的清淤我想我們農\n\n20\n00:06:59,111 --> 00:07:01,874\n農水組這邊會來處理然後需要其他部位的話我們會請其他部位來支援對那個沒有問題我們可以協助\n\n21\n00:07:08,975 --> 00:07:29,427\n那我想這個騎乘因為我們有一些猴鳥的這個生態的他們考量所以我們怎麼樣把騎乘抓好然後在不影響這個生態保育的狀況之下這一定要做要不然我這強降雨這個瞬間雨量那麼大恆春市區大淹水這個小桃不利啦這要特別拜託一下那我也找時間把相關部位都找來我們一起來會勘協調一下\n\n22\n00:07:32,190 --> 00:07:39,720\n好謝謝謝謝護魁謝謝那個農業部長如果是在這一次的災情都那個蓄水池都可以透過那個龍水水\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n89\t15570\t邱毅英委員 魯明哲委員魯明哲委員魯明哲委員不在請邱毅英委員邱毅英委員邱毅英委員不在請黃建斌委員黃建斌委員黃建斌委員不在請徐富奎委員質詢\n26751\t39185\t謝謝主席 有請我們經濟部核次長 台電曾董事長 農業部陳部長好 請經濟部核次長 台電董事長那還有什麼 農業部陳部長\n42631\t60003\t是大家辛苦了那我想這一次我們還是要針對這個整個這個台灣的這個電纜的一個韌性的部分還是要請我們經濟部跟台電要多幫忙那我想曾董事長這個去年我們屏東遭逢好幾個颱風之後\n61184\t81152\t我想第一時間我也約他到我們這個林邊家東跟我們養殖的一個漁民座談那當時大家關心的議題就是電纜地下化的一個設置的一個時程跟一個方式那當時我知道當然曾董事長這個有一些的思考的想法跟做法啦那尤其是\n82152\t101292\t今年我看今年8月16號我們卓院長也正式在對外有講說請我們這個經濟部跟台電針對全國電纜地下化的先行評估的作業我想有做這樣的一個宣示那請問一下市長或董事長目前我們規劃的期程怎麼進行\n102213\t118612\t那個跟委員報告就是說那個電網強盛的事情我們一直我們會更加速的來做那其實我們在沿海餘溫的一些做法上其實去年我們做了一些新的變化我想你應該有感受到就是最近這次颱風來\n119793\t142425\t其實更換過的電感其實就有擋住颱風意思是說我們用不同的方法做但整體的規劃早上我有承諾過我們會在兩個月內提一個初步的整體的規劃出來但它不是全部地下化就整個強韌因為包含我們這次提的特別預算也是一部分地下化一部分我們加強電感的強度來減少導斷\n145006\t170826\t董事長因為前幾天我們的鄉親還在問我這個問題那當然因為他們看到小琉球也感謝台電的支持小琉球已經先出來了小琉球全線都全島都電纜地下化那包含我們的平俄公路在蘇貞昌院長的時候我想這個都經歷颱風的肆虐之後都確保我們的用電安全所以大家都期待這樣一個電纜地下化的案子能夠持續推動但是當然沿海區域的一個這個低窪的一個問題還有所謂的一個維修的問題\n173608\t191935\t當初你有 我覺得有問題就要提啦至於說那個企產怎麼規劃 路程怎麼樣去進行我想大家都可以來配合 但是一定要有進度出來啦要不然特別回到訪台 大家就歡樂啦 就走路啦那尤其是我們這個養殖區這個目前台17線也在進行這個規劃了嘛我想這部分我們都要持續來做對 台17線是我們要規劃的\n199324\t212052\t董事長因為我知道我們後來包含訪寮也有一些的案子但是後來因為你們說經費不足那如果現在經費到位之後原本一些規劃的案子能不能持續在推動進行我們整個台17線都會整個來規劃訪寮大莊這邊那個 東海這邊那個因為上一次是應該是三坨的時候有傾斜\n221226\t239272\t那傾斜的那一個部分的狀況我們如果可以來但是因為它旁邊就是餘溫餘溫通常地下水會比較高但是如果可以坐在路的中間不要靠邊上那這個我們要跟公路單位做一些協調這個我已經請交通部陳部長跟公路局長來協助了我們趕快把介面搭起來趕快來做處理好的好 謝謝那我們請陳部長\n244916\t267542\t部長我想您的業務很繁重那當然就是我還是特別提到上次我在諮詢院長的時候我們還是要求這個整個治山防洪要整個都在您的部裡面包含從林保署也好水保署也好到這個整個我們區排的部分我想有很多需要農業部大力的支持部長能不能承諾一下我們整個在\n268522\t291540\t整個治山防洪的這個部分能夠做一個有效的一個系統的一個整治不要切香腸的處理方式我跟委員報告就是在這次的特別預算裡面我們針對了大概治山防洪農水路還有一些波地土石流防災的部分大概編了大概71到72億然後我們年度的預算跟治山防洪有關的年度預算大概是120億所以我們不會說現在的\n295223\t306812\t現在問題是因為風災了就用特別預算其他的不用所以我們會把我們整體的經費做有效的運用然後是以災區的這些相關的土質流崩塌的還有需要去處理的部分我們來優先處理\n308255\t325675\t這個我們也會請我們縣政府來做配合把整個從山區到我們平地要做一個完整的處理對 我們其中的我剛才說的我們在這支裡面大概有將近76.82億是跟農水路或是跟置山防蚊有關的是會請地方政府來執行\n326816\t355776\t另外我還要提一個問題我們放寮北市寮有一個海水供應站是我們屏東縣最早的供應站但是輸用30年了最近因為丹納斯颱風造成這個取水管線斷裂然後大量的泥沙也造成抽水馬達一個損害這部分我們請縣政府提報來補助一下我們的經費好我再請我們的那個應該是水路署去看那個漁業署去看一下看那個經費到底規模多大我們再來看怎麼樣處理\n356496\t358158\t好那我最後一個問題要請我們內政部劉部長謝謝陳部長劉部這兩個問題兩個部會都要作出處理\n371031\t388084\t兩位部長那個我們橫春有個龍鑾潭它是我們一個很重要的一個濕地也是一個後兩的一個棲地但是它也是一個橫春半島這個滯洪的一個很重要的一個水域因為這一次的颱風我們發現因為它的原本的淤積太過嚴重\n389025\t418131\t造成它的這個容量有限所以造成恆春市區大淹水那我們有希望在不影響生態的狀況之下因為這也是農水署很重要的一個灌溉的一個來源能不能由墾管處跟農水署怎麼樣來搭配在不影響到生態狀況之下應該要做有效一個清淤然後能夠協助這樣子一個防洪治洪的一個功能我想這個部分是我們農田水利署在負責管轄特別是在當作灌溉用的所以這個部分的清淤我想我們農\n419111\t421874\t農水組這邊會來處理然後需要其他部位的話我們會請其他部位來支援對 那個沒有問題我們可以協助\n428975\t449427\t那我想這個騎乘因為我們有一些猴鳥的這個生態的他們考量所以我們怎麼樣把騎乘抓好然後在不影響這個生態保育的狀況之下這一定要做要不然我這強降雨這個瞬間雨量那麼大恆春市區大淹水這個小桃不利啦這要特別拜託一下那我也找時間把相關部位都找來我們一起來會勘協調一下\n452190\t459720\t好謝謝謝謝護魁謝謝那個農業部長如果是在這一次的災情都那個蓄水池都可以透過那個龍水水\n","txt":"邱毅英委員 魯明哲委員魯明哲委員魯明哲委員不在請邱毅英委員邱毅英委員邱毅英委員不在請黃建斌委員黃建斌委員黃建斌委員不在請徐富奎委員質詢\n謝謝主席 有請我們經濟部核次長 台電曾董事長 農業部陳部長好 請經濟部核次長 台電董事長那還有什麼 農業部陳部長\n是大家辛苦了那我想這一次我們還是要針對這個整個這個台灣的這個電纜的一個韌性的部分還是要請我們經濟部跟台電要多幫忙那我想曾董事長這個去年我們屏東遭逢好幾個颱風之後\n我想第一時間我也約他到我們這個林邊家東跟我們養殖的一個漁民座談那當時大家關心的議題就是電纜地下化的一個設置的一個時程跟一個方式那當時我知道當然曾董事長這個有一些的思考的想法跟做法啦那尤其是\n今年我看今年8月16號我們卓院長也正式在對外有講說請我們這個經濟部跟台電針對全國電纜地下化的先行評估的作業我想有做這樣的一個宣示那請問一下市長或董事長目前我們規劃的期程怎麼進行\n那個跟委員報告就是說那個電網強盛的事情我們一直我們會更加速的來做那其實我們在沿海餘溫的一些做法上其實去年我們做了一些新的變化我想你應該有感受到就是最近這次颱風來\n其實更換過的電感其實就有擋住颱風意思是說我們用不同的方法做但整體的規劃早上我有承諾過我們會在兩個月內提一個初步的整體的規劃出來但它不是全部地下化就整個強韌因為包含我們這次提的特別預算也是一部分地下化一部分我們加強電感的強度來減少導斷\n董事長因為前幾天我們的鄉親還在問我這個問題那當然因為他們看到小琉球也感謝台電的支持小琉球已經先出來了小琉球全線都全島都電纜地下化那包含我們的平俄公路在蘇貞昌院長的時候我想這個都經歷颱風的肆虐之後都確保我們的用電安全所以大家都期待這樣一個電纜地下化的案子能夠持續推動但是當然沿海區域的一個這個低窪的一個問題還有所謂的一個維修的問題\n當初你有 我覺得有問題就要提啦至於說那個企產怎麼規劃 路程怎麼樣去進行我想大家都可以來配合 但是一定要有進度出來啦要不然特別回到訪台 大家就歡樂啦 就走路啦那尤其是我們這個養殖區這個目前台17線也在進行這個規劃了嘛我想這部分我們都要持續來做對 台17線是我們要規劃的\n董事長因為我知道我們後來包含訪寮也有一些的案子但是後來因為你們說經費不足那如果現在經費到位之後原本一些規劃的案子能不能持續在推動進行我們整個台17線都會整個來規劃訪寮大莊這邊那個 東海這邊那個因為上一次是應該是三坨的時候有傾斜\n那傾斜的那一個部分的狀況我們如果可以來但是因為它旁邊就是餘溫餘溫通常地下水會比較高但是如果可以坐在路的中間不要靠邊上那這個我們要跟公路單位做一些協調這個我已經請交通部陳部長跟公路局長來協助了我們趕快把介面搭起來趕快來做處理好的好 謝謝那我們請陳部長\n部長我想您的業務很繁重那當然就是我還是特別提到上次我在諮詢院長的時候我們還是要求這個整個治山防洪要整個都在您的部裡面包含從林保署也好水保署也好到這個整個我們區排的部分我想有很多需要農業部大力的支持部長能不能承諾一下我們整個在\n整個治山防洪的這個部分能夠做一個有效的一個系統的一個整治不要切香腸的處理方式我跟委員報告就是在這次的特別預算裡面我們針對了大概治山防洪農水路還有一些波地土石流防災的部分大概編了大概71到72億然後我們年度的預算跟治山防洪有關的年度預算大概是120億所以我們不會說現在的\n現在問題是因為風災了就用特別預算其他的不用所以我們會把我們整體的經費做有效的運用然後是以災區的這些相關的土質流崩塌的還有需要去處理的部分我們來優先處理\n這個我們也會請我們縣政府來做配合把整個從山區到我們平地要做一個完整的處理對 我們其中的我剛才說的我們在這支裡面大概有將近76.82億是跟農水路或是跟置山防蚊有關的是會請地方政府來執行\n另外我還要提一個問題我們放寮北市寮有一個海水供應站是我們屏東縣最早的供應站但是輸用30年了最近因為丹納斯颱風造成這個取水管線斷裂然後大量的泥沙也造成抽水馬達一個損害這部分我們請縣政府提報來補助一下我們的經費好我再請我們的那個應該是水路署去看那個漁業署去看一下看那個經費到底規模多大我們再來看怎麼樣處理\n好那我最後一個問題要請我們內政部劉部長謝謝陳部長劉部這兩個問題兩個部會都要作出處理\n兩位部長那個我們橫春有個龍鑾潭它是我們一個很重要的一個濕地也是一個後兩的一個棲地但是它也是一個橫春半島這個滯洪的一個很重要的一個水域因為這一次的颱風我們發現因為它的原本的淤積太過嚴重\n造成它的這個容量有限所以造成恆春市區大淹水那我們有希望在不影響生態的狀況之下因為這也是農水署很重要的一個灌溉的一個來源能不能由墾管處跟農水署怎麼樣來搭配在不影響到生態狀況之下應該要做有效一個清淤然後能夠協助這樣子一個防洪治洪的一個功能我想這個部分是我們農田水利署在負責管轄特別是在當作灌溉用的所以這個部分的清淤我想我們農\n農水組這邊會來處理然後需要其他部位的話我們會請其他部位來支援對 那個沒有問題我們可以協助\n那我想這個騎乘因為我們有一些猴鳥的這個生態的他們考量所以我們怎麼樣把騎乘抓好然後在不影響這個生態保育的狀況之下這一定要做要不然我這強降雨這個瞬間雨量那麼大恆春市區大淹水這個小桃不利啦這要特別拜託一下那我也找時間把相關部位都找來我們一起來會勘協調一下\n好謝謝謝謝護魁謝謝那個農業部長如果是在這一次的災情都那個蓄水池都可以透過那個龍水水\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.089 --> 00:15.570\n邱毅英委員魯明哲委員魯明哲委員魯明哲委員不在請邱毅英委員邱毅英委員邱毅英委員不在請黃建斌委員黃建斌委員黃建斌委員不在請徐富奎委員質詢\n\n00:26.751 --> 00:39.185\n謝謝主席有請我們經濟部核次長台電曾董事長農業部陳部長好請經濟部核次長台電董事長那還有什麼農業部陳部長\n\n00:42.631 --> 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