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我遭到了民間團體的陳情我發現\n我們現在在這三個月以內就已經有兩起的人船碰撞有一死兩重傷的一個問題那這個問題是怎麼發生的是有潛水客被螺旋槳撞擊\n那這不是一個單一的個案喔這是一個系統性的安全性的一個漏洞我想部長一定非常清楚什麼是風險什麼是危險嘛玩潛水活動本身有一些風險存在沒有錯但是他們現在是被螺旋槳撞擊這就是危險的問題\n那民間呢其實開始呼籲要訂立這個人船必碰規則那我知道我們現在在1977年是有相關的一些海上必碰規則國際公約但是公約處理的就是船跟船人對人沒有處理人對船人船之間的這個問題那觀光署去年其實也有修訂了水域休憩活動管理辦法要求要配置這個潛水旗幟\n可是我想不管你再怎麼清楚的識別只要船隻沒有減速人員還是會受傷就像是我們畫的人行道一樣你畫了這些白馬線你沒有 你只有去勸導只有去宣導你沒有一些相對的規定那坦白說我們還是很難去避免這樣子的一個問題那現在呢美國 澳洲 紐西蘭 日本\n我想聽聽看部長您的態度是什麼\n報告委員確實這個議題轄管的單位相當多包含交通部包含農業部也都有還有地方政府也有光交通部裡面觀光署也有然後航港局也有確實這個議題我們必須要去面對因為已經發生事件了我們在船員法裡面對於駕駛船舶如何避免碰撞這個部分我們有明確的規範這個是針對商船跟航港局所管理\n對 那這個部分我們也會提供給漁業署對於這個規範的部分提供給他們這個部分我們都會提供這個沒有問題但是後續啦我覺得應該大家要來討論一下就是說是不是民團這邊也可以協助一下我們針對有在潛水的熱區我們除了航港局要掌握之外漁業署那邊也要掌握也要對漁船做宣導讓他們先知道說我們的熱區大概在哪些地方部長因為時間有限啦我想我是不是可以要求啦就是說\n交通部是不是可以來折騰來協調好不好來協調各縣市政府我們是不是可以提出一份草案那我們這邊也請民間團體一起來協助我們來提出一個草案然後來試試看像小琉球縣已經有劃定樂區了是不是可以有些範圍先試行看看是不是可以這樣子三個月內好不好我們來協調三個月好謝謝那運安會主委抱歉因為時間很有限抱歉我先對不起運安會主委下一個好了我先叫體育署\n體育署 抱歉喔 因為時間很有限體育署 我想確認一下喔因為我之前一直在要求有關於狼師 狼教練應該要公告8月15號你們開會 那決議是什麼我可能會後再更為現在直接告訴我好不好 決議是什麼因為我沒有參與決議是不是會公告 會不會公告應該還在討論當中嘛不對吧 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