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00:01:23,242\n施大安爆發以來運科計畫好像落入了法外之地體育署給我的公文還有對外說因為不是研究不適用人體研究法所以一直都沒有清查處理那次部長應該記得衛福部當場就說涉及到未成年絕對是要適用人體研究法無論是不是有出版那我這邊想讓\n\n5\n00:01:28,561 --> 00:01:52,074\n想让部长看到的是运科计划不是只有涉及血液样本有问题因为就在我质询要求之后上个礼拜8月19号终于看到教育部专案小组说明表示现在正在就运科计划涉及血液样本的案件是否符合人体研究法\n\n6\n00:01:52,654 --> 00:02:08,963\n那可是呢教育部要正視這個孕科計畫的問題不是只有涉及血液部長如果只有處理涉及血液這不是大家認知的全面清查我想部長應該同意沒有抽血的案件也可能有違規\n\n7\n00:02:10,103 --> 00:02:19,473\n是的跟委員報告我確實也跟政署長提所有未成年所有的青少年在運科計畫裡邊都應該要有監護人或者當事人年齡有一些同意\n\n8\n00:02:28,721 --> 00:02:51,509\n謝謝部長我知道你認同我上次講的我希望他們未來都要全力來改正你說體育署不應該是法外之地下面的計畫就應該要遵循人體研究法我想下一頁讓部長看一下我後來在我質詢之後終於拿到體育署調查的結果請部長看一下\n\n9\n00:02:52,669 --> 00:03:11,530\n整個案子有289件裡面只有不到一半的有知情同意不到一半的有知情同意裡面有多少未成年289件裡面超過200件是未成年受冊所以這個有多嚴重\n\n10\n00:03:12,915 --> 00:03:36,991\n到現在為止體育署沒有辦法跟我講有多少是強迫未成年學生接受檢測我們體育署署長鎮署長對外說運科補助計畫不能拿去研究發表有研究發表是個別教授不如譬如說個別違規請部長看一下最後一個這不是個別教授研究發表佔了23案8案30幾案不是個案\n\n11\n00:03:39,653 --> 00:03:54,134\n所以體育署長對外說是個案這根本就忽略了當時申請的時候他明明就知道申請書都有說要做國際發表更嚴重的是這是我好不容易要來的資料請部長看一下國體大王翔星\n\n12\n00:03:55,415 --> 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