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00:03:06,096\n天然在不可抗拒的对他的许多的授课上这个权益上的一些这可能的一些影响谢谢部长那唯有预算案我们就一起处理谢谢您的承诺好那再来呢也是跟一个教师权有关的下一页那我想部长应该知道我一直关心代理教师的问题因为代理教师如果没有被照顾到那他们等于很可能就是未来的教师流失之后对我们教育现场非常的不好\n\n9\n00:03:06,756 --> 00:03:23,807\n那本周一就是8月25号教育部有发一个新闻稿回应媒体就是媒体报道说全国目前有2600个教师职缺的问题那教育部的新闻稿说缺额没有那么多那实质上是你们说是1429位\n\n10\n00:03:37,196 --> 00:03:51,909\n新聞稿寫得很好很有道理但是我要提醒的是這一個月來在大法官釋憲之後代理教師原本就依照年資可以採取血腥制度這個制度上路以來\n\n11\n00:03:52,589 --> 00:04:10,039\n基層教師蓄心爭議頻傳可是國教署一直沒有處理我認為這個新聞稿跟實質上國教署的我們看到的行為好像沒有在處理誘因因為你今天讓代理教師沒有一個公平的制度蓄心\n\n12\n00:04:11,139 --> 00:04:27,904\n當不下去了你反而就流失了未來的正職老師權益保障很重要我們來看一下我辦公室接到多少成錢有這些狀況明明你們的虛心辦法說跨縣市代理私校年資都被採記可是他們都被拒絕\n\n13\n00:04:28,624 --> 00:04:28,664\n還有呢\n\n14\n00:04:48,585 --> 00:05:04,306\n就是當年沒有成績優良證明就變成不予採記那你們的辦法說幼兒園研資也是可是基層的人士不知道為什麼都看不到你們的公文完全拒絕他們那我要講的事情是為什麼我今天要來質詢夏業\n\n15\n00:05:06,567 --> 00:05:32,969\n如果我的辦公室詢問你們可以解決的話我今天就不用再提出來了我們辦公室詢問你們國教署是不是發一個統一說明認定基準譬如有個案例事宜嘛案例事宜結果你們的回答是說提敘相關制度已施行多年因不深認定爭議這麼多爭議了你們說沒有認定爭議我們辦公室詢問說現在有大量認定爭議是否有減變的申訴機制\n\n16\n00:05:34,870 --> 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