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00:03:15,697\n這種是好的模式像外國的模式是財政上一筆錢這樣的投資的方式那我們是廠商去設廠的一種方式這對我們來講是廠商剛剛您說延伸或者是全球布局的一種但是他在那邊的生產跟國內的生產當然國內的這個領先的地位我們會維持住我們over這些\n\n9\n00:03:16,917 --> 00:03:30,097\n目標就是說我們232條款能夠得到更好的條件然後疊加稅率不要再疊加或者原額關稅可以再降低這是我們努力的目標你有沒有信心達到這個目標\n\n10\n00:03:31,837 --> 00:03:58,998\n我覺得以我們國家現在的科技發展實力以及我們跟美方之間未來透過更正常的一些採購方面來看我們可以就我們雙方的貿易平衡做很多的努力這個我們也在做如果這樣的話我們有在做貿易平衡的努力我們有我們產業上的優勢我們應該可以得到更合理的待遇接下來就是說這個月底11月初在APEC在韓國慶周\n\n11\n00:04:00,595 --> 00:04:12,939\n當然川普是在上第二個任期第一次在亞洲所以我們的這個領袖代表已經決定了嗎是不是跟半導體有關係\n\n12\n00:04:15,035 --> 00:04:41,472\n這個是釜放在作業一定要先跟APEC主辦方去有一些默契我期待是有半導體方面的領導者或者在全球有聲望的半導體高層或者有威望的半導體權威人士因為很難的機會可以跟各國領袖特別是川普能夠當面的做一些建議或者做一些會談也有可能\n\n13\n00:04:42,960 --> 00:05:05,131\n所以人選已經決定了委員這樣的建議府方一定會非常重視我現在應該是從半導體來切入一個有國際聲望領袖級的半導體的權威人士代表台灣的領袖的會議這個應該APEC主辦方應該會接受吧我們提出的\n\n14\n00:05:06,472 --> 00:05:34,860\n適當的人選我們都會經過正常的管道來表達我們參與這個的意願跟他的公安心這個月底應該就會確定了好那另外提到這個整個產業的因應我想這個國務長您9月3號也去跟我們這個岡山岡山是六四困啦六四困現在面臨最嚴峻的挑戰就是說全球六大洲市場現在只有北美市場不是北美市場全部加拿大也沒有了墨西哥也沒有了\n\n15\n00:05:35,945 --> 00:05:54,281\n其他州也沒有因為中國的銷價競爭嘛中國的這個扣件都比我們這個便宜三成到四成所以我們只有美國的轟入美國市場因為美國沒有市場所以我們美國的市場很重要你看什麼協助金屬扣件大型的我覺得他有因應中小型的\n\n16\n00:05:55,441 --> 00:06:10,194\n你們怎麼讓他能夠繼續來保持一定的經營能力一定的競爭力幾項的建議我想包括人力勞動力不足包括他們的下屆巔峰的電力成本\n\n17\n00:06:10,894 --> 00:06:22,479\n是不是有可能去考量這些都是當場給您有提出建議也包括檢討或廢除5%的未分配盈餘加深因索稅制部分以減輕他們所謂的企業資金的壓力\n\n18\n00:06:26,801 --> 00:06:44,764\n另外也希望央行跟財政部啊經管會能設出更多的資金來協助這個相關的這個中小型的這個擴建業者取得資金這是當天的會議的結論吧那我覺得這部分不曉得這個經濟部有沒有相關的看法\n\n19\n00:06:45,945 --> 00:07:14,292\n報告委員像金融支持的部分我們一再的強調就是雨天一定不收傘甚至於還要撐大更大的傘所以在新的貸款部分我們還提供信保的部分而且在額度以下是10成10的保證而且利息呢事實上是有減免的來協助企業如果他需要資金的話我的感受他們告訴我啊這個他們並沒有特別有感覺啦這個都是現在已經正在做的\n\n20\n00:07:15,270 --> 00:07:23,387\n特別情形特別時期有特別的做法讓這些中小型產業能夠維持生存維持競爭力讓他們有感很重要\n\n21\n00:07:24,324 --> 00:07:45,356\n是我們跟公股航庫也好甚至於金管會還有銀行公衛都一再的講說雨天不能收產也就是說旧貸一定可以展延是沒有條件是繳息要正常而且可以展延半年然後利息還可以做一些節目9月3號你跟這些螺絲葉子做過座談到這邊一個月了對不對\n\n22\n00:07:46,036 --> 00:07:59,390\n一個月他們所提出的事項你要很具體的答覆這些擴建業者讓他們了解我們政府有在做事有在協助產業發展這部分還沒有得到經濟部的相關訊息我們輔導團馬上組好就要下去了\n\n23\n00:08:04,495 --> 00:08:21,473\n全台灣會在扣件是全台灣全球排名前三名的這個而且扣件都是很多的產業都需要扣件但是我們很希望說這個特別預算可以趕快通過我們才有辦法擴大實施要不然我們現在只能用以晚計期的方式以晚計期\n\n24\n00:08:23,294 --> 00:08:44,214\n規模有限預算當然會過但是你要怎麼用對地方提供他們有感的政策有感的協助這點很重要再請國務部長再去深思另外有關於內政部跟國防部就是說內政部也編列加強反恐維安能量的這些以及關鍵基礎設施的防護效能\n\n25\n00:08:45,595 --> 00:09:12,183\n竟然編了34億國防部也針對基礎設施關鍵的這些設施國外能量大概也編了大概428億特別提到國境國門我們出入境要維護國人旅搭機安全旅客安全第一個院長安檢是不是很重要\n\n26\n00:09:14,024 --> 00:09:41,046\n行李的安檢第一個要充足人力第二個要有先進的設備要有專業的人員行警我常常從不管是從雄山桃園或者是小港我出境的時候發現一個問題人力非常非常不夠一個安檢線兩名同仁因為是行警同仁他要看monitor\n\n27\n00:09:41,926 --> 00:10:10,532\n我們現在的行李輸送袋你的行李要放在那個要進去那個X光機他是用人工拿那個環子去只有一個保全公司人員一條安全線一個保全公司人員他還要拿行李然後還要告訴你說衣服要脫然後帽子要脫那個口袋要拿出來iPad要拿出來兩個人然後另外一個行情局還要專心看這個monitor看有沒有違禁品查到違禁品誰去看\n\n28\n00:10:12,266 --> 00:10:25,096\n應當是有中巡力執法人員去看應該是行警局行警人力去看看的是誰是保全公司保全公司有這專業就發現這個違禁品到底是不是可以登記嗎\n\n29\n00:10:27,304 --> 00:10:54,814\n追根就離啊就是第一個我們花那麼多的錢包括這個農業部那個安檢不是安檢就是朱溫一年編了這個2億然後我們要協助行警能力的部分一年編了11億這些我們可以為什麼不招募更多的這個我們行警能力補充行警能力有專業去執勤\n\n30\n00:10:56,297 --> 00:11:25,212\n而不是這些保全公司保全公司一年一聘他專業怎麼去執行說每天搭飛機我每次搭飛機我都提心吊膽一條線竟然只有兩位而且你心裡有問題是保全公司能去看這樣國人搭機怎麼會安心呢所以我想請部長一定要請院長一定要支持行警能力部署現任的造局長行警造局長\n\n31\n00:11:26,463 --> 00:11:54,674\n剛到了一個月我立即跟他反映還有立即去改善最最重要的問題人力不足然後你這個保全公司一年一聘花了12億為什麼你不用設備更新呢你又自動的這個轉盤輸送帶空間不是不夠我覺得台灣的安檢整體的品質在國際上是倒數\n\n32\n00:11:56,397 --> 00:12:23,817\n人力也好專業也好我們用那麼多的這個所謂S光機然後那麼多的這個人身的安安檢設備很少有使用一台要440萬總共買了21台有沒有人力去執行比如說你要經過S光機你要手機舉起來你要經過這個安檢或者它逼的時候你要用那個掃描器看一下\n\n33\n00:12:25,052 --> 00:12:54,077\n這個很少執行因為什麼因為沒有能力空有設備沒有能力這國際安全我非常憂慮主要是能力不夠這能力不夠我想這個劉部長也了解也跟行政院反映過但是能力補充一直沒有辦法到位同樣非洲豬瘟只有台灣跟日本是非豬瘟國對不對日本有聘用每年用兩億去做一個安檢設施嗎\n\n34\n00:12:56,434 --> 00:13:21,575\n我跟委員報告因為日本我們在機場會比較加強檢疫就是最主要我們國內養豬還有廚餘的養豬系統我瞭解你要嘛你就全面做不要只有桃園機場做桃園機場你是外聘的然後小港機場你是用海關去卡這個牽涉到場地我也跟委員報告您剛才講人力的部分那特別行政特別是院長也有支持在檢疫的人員的部分\n\n35\n00:13:22,276 --> 00:13:43,312\n那行政院人事總署那邊已經有多合配的一些人為了應用第三期的部分而且你那個看那個檢驗人員要專業那也是保全公司在看後續我們保全我們正職的人員我們會做調整公權力的行使不能用民間的保全業者市委員行警人員的問題我再請劉部長能夠確實的去了解\n\n36\n00:13:43,672 --> 00:14:05,618\n如果真的是行警人員不足這個保全的專業不足還有就是各種安檢的這個品質也不足的話我會發現年紀差距也蠻大的我看也有四五十歲也有二三十幾歲明年我們把發展觀光列為擴大內需重要的一環那既然這樣我們希望更多人進來流程要快也希望安檢的檢查要能夠徹底這個我們來檢討我寧願慢一點\n\n37\n00:14:08,699 --> 00:14:31,191\n檢查仔細精確一點安全一點我們搭機才會安心嘛我們來檢討整個流程我離遠慢一點你根本就是如果留意形勢的話那這樣子對旅客這個飛行安全旅行安全是非常非常大的威脅我們會同時並進我們希望外國的旅客多來我也希望在程序上能夠讓他們覺得說台灣是一個親近的國家因為根據你就是人力不夠人力不夠你就來辦事\n\n38\n00:14:32,472 --> 00:14:49,152\n然後這個設備你要更新不要還是用到這個二次世界大戰以後的那個行李行李轉盤還用人力去搬啊你那個放行李那個S光機的轉盤那個看慕林的行警人員有時候還要去幫忙拿盤子\n\n39\n00:14:52,145 --> 00:15:19,226\n日本是在前面就用一個音箱廣播請你用日文英文還有中文韓文它廣播你什麼東西要拿出來什麼東西拿出來這個我們都可以學習嘛最起碼你行李輸送帶要讓它現代化一點它可以自動輸送嘛這不是沒有預算嗎是國境的安全這也是非常重要好謝謝委員這個提醒我們來檢討這個過程\n\n40\n00:15:21,761 --> 00:15:26,168\n每次質詢時間都過得很快好謝謝謝謝委員謝謝院長謝謝部長謝謝邱委員謝謝卓院長\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n13851\t42884\t好 謝謝主席有請行政院卓院長請卓院長備詢邱委員好卓院長你辛苦了站了一整天不會謝謝你對國家付出那麼多的努力跟奉獻特別這一陣子面臨到國際情勢的變化還有國內的這些災情行政團隊全力以赴\n44117\t68486\t先對行政團隊表示肯定感謝現在還沒進行關稅第五輪談判美方提出他的offer 提出他的訴求他訴求 我想他不是個人意見不是商務部長尼克的個人意見誤差人對分 一定是美國政府的立場對我們而言 這是一個很大的挑戰所以\n70612\t96241\t日軍副院長必須去美國提出我們的offer G to G用政府協助用民間企業去佈局我們提供財政協助希望美國提供土地水電然後我們把這個竹科的經驗能夠複製到美國但美國不是完全沒有配合美國要配合土地水電我們用我們的經驗\n98001\t102249\t所以這種我想居土區的方式這並不是供應鏈產業的轉移這是供應鏈的擴大\n108758\t134646\t我想我這樣陳述代表行政團隊的立場我這樣陳述應該是正確的我比較認為他應該不叫一個園區而是一個服務園區服務我們的廠商去做一些工作真的未來要成立一個大的園區廠商要自述過去我們提供所謂財政協助或者行政資源美方也要配合這種情況之下居土區的方式美國能不能接受呢\n135923\t151035\t這個就是我們要善用到現在我們發展這麼多年的科學研究的經驗當世界各國尤其美方希望來學習複製的時候我們可以提供給他的是什麼程度但是剛剛部長也講了我們維持國家的產業的領導的關鍵地位\n154017\t172630\t一定要跟著台灣我們的核心技術一定要跟著台灣這種情況之下我們有別於日本模式跟韓國模式日本是擴大投資日本好像是5500億 南韓是3500億我們是台灣模式台灣模式複製我們成功的協助在建築產業園區我們廠商也過去 美國也配合\n175952\t195697\t這種是好的模式像外國的模式是財政上一筆錢這樣的投資的方式那我們是廠商去設廠的一種方式這對我們來講是廠商剛剛您說延伸或者是全球布局的一種但是他在那邊的生產跟國內的生產當然國內的這個領先的地位我們會維持住我們over這些\n196917\t210097\t目標就是說我們232條款能夠得到更好的條件然後疊加稅率不要再疊加或者原額關稅可以再降低這是我們努力的目標你有沒有信心達到這個目標\n211837\t238998\t我覺得以我們國家現在的科技發展實力以及我們跟美方之間未來透過更正常的一些採購方面來看我們可以就我們雙方的貿易平衡做很多的努力這個我們也在做如果這樣的話我們有在做貿易平衡的努力我們有我們產業上的優勢我們應該可以得到更合理的待遇接下來就是說這個月底11月初在APEC在韓國慶周\n240595\t252939\t當然川普是在上第二個任期第一次在亞洲所以我們的這個領袖代表已經決定了嗎是不是跟半導體有關係\n255035\t281472\t這個是釜放在作業一定要先跟APEC主辦方去有一些默契我期待是有半導體方面的領導者或者在全球有聲望的半導體高層或者有威望的半導體權威人士因為很難的機會可以跟各國領袖特別是川普能夠當面的做一些建議或者做一些會談也有可能\n282960\t305131\t所以人選已經決定了委員這樣的建議 府方一定會非常重視我現在應該是從半導體來切入一個有國際聲望領袖級的半導體的權威人士代表台灣的領袖的會議這個應該APEC主辦方應該會接受吧我們提出的\n306472\t334860\t適當的人選我們都會經過正常的管道來表達我們參與這個的意願跟他的公安心這個月底應該就會確定了好 那另外提到這個整個產業的因應我想這個國務長您9月3號也去跟我們這個岡山 岡山是六四困啦六四困現在面臨最嚴峻的挑戰就是說全球六大洲市場現在只有北美市場不是北美市場全部加拿大也沒有了 墨西哥也沒有了\n335945\t354281\t其他州也沒有 因為中國的銷價競爭嘛中國的這個扣件都比我們這個便宜三成到四成所以我們只有美國的 轟入美國市場因為美國沒有市場所以我們美國的市場很重要你看什麼協助金屬扣件大型的 我覺得他有因應中小型的\n355441\t370194\t你們怎麼讓他能夠繼續來保持一定的經營能力一定的競爭力幾項的建議我想包括人力 勞動力不足包括他們的下屆巔峰的電力成本\n370894\t382479\t是不是有可能去考量這些都是當場給您有提出建議也包括檢討或廢除5%的未分配盈餘加深因索稅制部分以減輕他們所謂的企業資金的壓力\n386801\t404764\t另外也希望央行跟財政部啊經管會能設出更多的資金來協助這個相關的這個中小型的這個擴建業者取得資金這是當天的會議的結論吧那我覺得這部分不曉得這個經濟部有沒有相關的看法\n405945\t434292\t報告委員像金融支持的部分我們一再的強調就是雨天一定不收傘甚至於還要撐大更大的傘所以在新的貸款部分我們還提供信保的部分而且在額度以下是10成10的保證而且利息呢事實上是有減免的來協助企業如果他需要資金的話我的感受他們告訴我啊這個他們並沒有特別有感覺啦這個都是現在已經正在做的\n435270\t443387\t特別情形 特別時期有特別的做法讓這些中小型產業能夠維持生存 維持競爭力讓他們有感很重要\n444324\t465356\t是我們跟公股航庫也好甚至於金管會還有銀行公衛都一再的講說雨天不能收產也就是說旧貸一定可以展延是沒有條件是繳息要正常而且可以展延半年然後利息還可以做一些節目9月3號你跟這些螺絲葉子做過座談到這邊一個月了對不對\n466036\t479390\t一個月他們所提出的事項你要很具體的答覆這些擴建業者讓他們了解我們政府有在做事有在協助產業發展這部分還沒有得到經濟部的相關訊息我們輔導團馬上組好就要下去了\n484495\t501473\t全台灣會在扣件是全台灣全球排名前三名的這個而且扣件都是很多的產業都需要扣件但是我們很希望說這個特別預算可以趕快通過我們才有辦法擴大實施要不然我們現在只能用以晚計期的方式以晚計期\n503294\t524214\t規模有限預算當然會過但是你要怎麼用對地方提供他們有感的政策有感的協助這點很重要再請國務部長再去深思另外有關於內政部跟國防部就是說內政部也編列加強反恐維安能量的這些以及關鍵基礎設施的防護效能\n525595\t552183\t竟然編了34億國防部也針對基礎設施關鍵的這些設施國外能量大概也編了大概428億特別提到國境 國門我們出入境要維護國人旅搭機安全 旅客安全第一個 院長安檢是不是很重要\n554024\t581046\t行李的安檢第一個要充足人力第二個要有先進的設備要有專業的人員行警我常常從不管是從雄山桃園或者是小港我出境的時候發現一個問題人力非常非常不夠一個安檢線兩名同仁因為是行警同仁他要看monitor\n581926\t610532\t我們現在的行李輸送袋你的行李要放在那個要進去那個X光機他是用人工拿那個環子去只有一個保全公司人員一條安全線一個保全公司人員他還要拿行李然後還要告訴你說衣服要脫然後帽子要脫那個口袋要拿出來iPad要拿出來兩個人然後另外一個行情局還要專心看這個monitor看有沒有違禁品查到違禁品誰去看\n612266\t625096\t應當是有中巡力執法人員去看應該是行警局 行警人力去看看的是誰 是保全公司保全公司有這專業就發現這個違禁品到底是不是可以登記嗎\n627304\t654814\t追根就離啊 就是第一個我們花那麼多的錢包括這個農業部那個安檢不是安檢就是朱溫一年編了這個2億然後我們要協助行警能力的部分一年編了11億這些我們可以為什麼不招募更多的這個我們行警能力補充行警能力有專業去執勤\n656297\t685212\t而不是這些保全公司保全公司一年一聘他專業怎麼去執行說每天搭飛機我每次搭飛機我都提心吊膽一條線竟然只有兩位而且你心裡有問題是保全公司能去看這樣國人搭機怎麼會安心呢所以我想請部長一定要請院長一定要支持行警能力部署現任的造局長 行警造局長\n686463\t714674\t剛到了一個月我立即跟他反映還有立即去改善最最重要的問題人力不足然後你這個保全公司一年一聘花了12億為什麼你不用設備更新呢你又自動的這個轉盤輸送帶空間不是不夠我覺得台灣的安檢整體的品質在國際上是倒數\n716397\t743817\t人力也好 專業也好我們用那麼多的這個所謂S光機然後那麼多的這個人身的安安檢設備很少有使用一台要440萬總共買了21台有沒有人力去執行比如說你要經過S光機你要手機舉起來你要經過這個安檢或者它逼的時候你要用那個掃描器看一下\n745052\t774077\t這個很少執行因為什麼 因為沒有能力空有設備 沒有能力這國際安全我非常憂慮 主要是能力不夠這能力不夠我想這個劉部長也了解也跟行政院反映過但是能力補充一直沒有辦法到位同樣非洲豬瘟只有台灣跟日本是非豬瘟國對不對日本有聘用每年用兩億去做一個安檢設施嗎\n776434\t801575\t我跟委員報告 因為日本我們在機場會比較加強檢疫就是最主要我們國內養豬還有廚餘的養豬系統我瞭解 你要嘛 你就全面做不要只有桃園機場做 桃園機場你是外聘的然後小港機場你是用海關去卡這個牽涉到場地 我也跟委員報告您剛才講人力的部分那特別行政特別是院長也有支持在檢疫的人員的部分\n802276\t823312\t那行政院人事總署那邊已經有多合配的一些人為了應用第三期的部分而且你那個看那個檢驗人員要專業那也是保全公司在看後續我們保全我們正職的人員我們會做調整公權力的行使不能用民間的保全業者市委員 行警人員的問題我再請劉部長能夠確實的去了解\n823672\t845618\t如果真的是行警人員不足這個保全的專業不足還有就是各種安檢的這個品質也不足的話我會發現年紀差距也蠻大的我看也有四五十歲也有二三十幾歲明年我們把發展觀光列為擴大內需重要的一環那既然這樣我們希望更多人進來流程要快也希望安檢的檢查要能夠徹底這個我們來檢討我寧願慢一點\n848699\t871191\t檢查仔細 精確一點 安全一點我們搭機才會安心嘛我們來檢討整個流程我離遠慢一點你根本就是如果留意形勢的話那這樣子對旅客這個飛行安全旅行安全是非常非常大的威脅我們會同時並進我們希望外國的旅客多來我也希望在程序上能夠讓他們覺得說台灣是一個親近的國家因為根據你就是人力不夠人力不夠你就來辦事\n872472\t889152\t然後這個設備你要更新不要還是用到這個二次世界大戰以後的那個行李行李轉盤還用人力去搬啊你那個放行李那個S光機的轉盤那個看慕林的行警人員有時候還要去幫忙拿盤子\n892145\t919226\t日本是在前面就用一個音箱廣播請你用日文 英文還有中文 韓文它廣播你什麼東西要拿出來什麼東西拿出來這個我們都可以學習嘛最起碼你行李輸送帶要讓它現代化一點它可以自動輸送嘛這不是沒有預算嗎是國境的安全這也是非常重要好 謝謝委員這個提醒我們來檢討這個過程\n921761\t926168\t每次質詢時間都過得很快好 謝謝謝謝委員謝謝院長 謝謝部長謝謝邱委員 謝謝卓院長\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席有請行政院卓院長請卓院長備詢邱委員好卓院長你辛苦了站了一整天不會謝謝你對國家付出那麼多的努力跟奉獻特別這一陣子面臨到國際情勢的變化還有國內的這些災情行政團隊全力以赴\n先對行政團隊表示肯定感謝現在還沒進行關稅第五輪談判美方提出他的offer 提出他的訴求他訴求 我想他不是個人意見不是商務部長尼克的個人意見誤差人對分 一定是美國政府的立場對我們而言 這是一個很大的挑戰所以\n日軍副院長必須去美國提出我們的offer G to G用政府協助用民間企業去佈局我們提供財政協助希望美國提供土地水電然後我們把這個竹科的經驗能夠複製到美國但美國不是完全沒有配合美國要配合土地水電我們用我們的經驗\n所以這種我想居土區的方式這並不是供應鏈產業的轉移這是供應鏈的擴大\n我想我這樣陳述代表行政團隊的立場我這樣陳述應該是正確的我比較認為他應該不叫一個園區而是一個服務園區服務我們的廠商去做一些工作真的未來要成立一個大的園區廠商要自述過去我們提供所謂財政協助或者行政資源美方也要配合這種情況之下居土區的方式美國能不能接受呢\n這個就是我們要善用到現在我們發展這麼多年的科學研究的經驗當世界各國尤其美方希望來學習複製的時候我們可以提供給他的是什麼程度但是剛剛部長也講了我們維持國家的產業的領導的關鍵地位\n一定要跟著台灣我們的核心技術一定要跟著台灣這種情況之下我們有別於日本模式跟韓國模式日本是擴大投資日本好像是5500億 南韓是3500億我們是台灣模式台灣模式複製我們成功的協助在建築產業園區我們廠商也過去 美國也配合\n這種是好的模式像外國的模式是財政上一筆錢這樣的投資的方式那我們是廠商去設廠的一種方式這對我們來講是廠商剛剛您說延伸或者是全球布局的一種但是他在那邊的生產跟國內的生產當然國內的這個領先的地位我們會維持住我們over這些\n目標就是說我們232條款能夠得到更好的條件然後疊加稅率不要再疊加或者原額關稅可以再降低這是我們努力的目標你有沒有信心達到這個目標\n我覺得以我們國家現在的科技發展實力以及我們跟美方之間未來透過更正常的一些採購方面來看我們可以就我們雙方的貿易平衡做很多的努力這個我們也在做如果這樣的話我們有在做貿易平衡的努力我們有我們產業上的優勢我們應該可以得到更合理的待遇接下來就是說這個月底11月初在APEC在韓國慶周\n當然川普是在上第二個任期第一次在亞洲所以我們的這個領袖代表已經決定了嗎是不是跟半導體有關係\n這個是釜放在作業一定要先跟APEC主辦方去有一些默契我期待是有半導體方面的領導者或者在全球有聲望的半導體高層或者有威望的半導體權威人士因為很難的機會可以跟各國領袖特別是川普能夠當面的做一些建議或者做一些會談也有可能\n所以人選已經決定了委員這樣的建議 府方一定會非常重視我現在應該是從半導體來切入一個有國際聲望領袖級的半導體的權威人士代表台灣的領袖的會議這個應該APEC主辦方應該會接受吧我們提出的\n適當的人選我們都會經過正常的管道來表達我們參與這個的意願跟他的公安心這個月底應該就會確定了好 那另外提到這個整個產業的因應我想這個國務長您9月3號也去跟我們這個岡山 岡山是六四困啦六四困現在面臨最嚴峻的挑戰就是說全球六大洲市場現在只有北美市場不是北美市場全部加拿大也沒有了 墨西哥也沒有了\n其他州也沒有 因為中國的銷價競爭嘛中國的這個扣件都比我們這個便宜三成到四成所以我們只有美國的 轟入美國市場因為美國沒有市場所以我們美國的市場很重要你看什麼協助金屬扣件大型的 我覺得他有因應中小型的\n你們怎麼讓他能夠繼續來保持一定的經營能力一定的競爭力幾項的建議我想包括人力 勞動力不足包括他們的下屆巔峰的電力成本\n是不是有可能去考量這些都是當場給您有提出建議也包括檢討或廢除5%的未分配盈餘加深因索稅制部分以減輕他們所謂的企業資金的壓力\n另外也希望央行跟財政部啊經管會能設出更多的資金來協助這個相關的這個中小型的這個擴建業者取得資金這是當天的會議的結論吧那我覺得這部分不曉得這個經濟部有沒有相關的看法\n報告委員像金融支持的部分我們一再的強調就是雨天一定不收傘甚至於還要撐大更大的傘所以在新的貸款部分我們還提供信保的部分而且在額度以下是10成10的保證而且利息呢事實上是有減免的來協助企業如果他需要資金的話我的感受他們告訴我啊這個他們並沒有特別有感覺啦這個都是現在已經正在做的\n特別情形 特別時期有特別的做法讓這些中小型產業能夠維持生存 維持競爭力讓他們有感很重要\n是我們跟公股航庫也好甚至於金管會還有銀行公衛都一再的講說雨天不能收產也就是說旧貸一定可以展延是沒有條件是繳息要正常而且可以展延半年然後利息還可以做一些節目9月3號你跟這些螺絲葉子做過座談到這邊一個月了對不對\n一個月他們所提出的事項你要很具體的答覆這些擴建業者讓他們了解我們政府有在做事有在協助產業發展這部分還沒有得到經濟部的相關訊息我們輔導團馬上組好就要下去了\n全台灣會在扣件是全台灣全球排名前三名的這個而且扣件都是很多的產業都需要扣件但是我們很希望說這個特別預算可以趕快通過我們才有辦法擴大實施要不然我們現在只能用以晚計期的方式以晚計期\n規模有限預算當然會過但是你要怎麼用對地方提供他們有感的政策有感的協助這點很重要再請國務部長再去深思另外有關於內政部跟國防部就是說內政部也編列加強反恐維安能量的這些以及關鍵基礎設施的防護效能\n竟然編了34億國防部也針對基礎設施關鍵的這些設施國外能量大概也編了大概428億特別提到國境 國門我們出入境要維護國人旅搭機安全 旅客安全第一個 院長安檢是不是很重要\n行李的安檢第一個要充足人力第二個要有先進的設備要有專業的人員行警我常常從不管是從雄山桃園或者是小港我出境的時候發現一個問題人力非常非常不夠一個安檢線兩名同仁因為是行警同仁他要看monitor\n我們現在的行李輸送袋你的行李要放在那個要進去那個X光機他是用人工拿那個環子去只有一個保全公司人員一條安全線一個保全公司人員他還要拿行李然後還要告訴你說衣服要脫然後帽子要脫那個口袋要拿出來iPad要拿出來兩個人然後另外一個行情局還要專心看這個monitor看有沒有違禁品查到違禁品誰去看\n應當是有中巡力執法人員去看應該是行警局 行警人力去看看的是誰 是保全公司保全公司有這專業就發現這個違禁品到底是不是可以登記嗎\n追根就離啊 就是第一個我們花那麼多的錢包括這個農業部那個安檢不是安檢就是朱溫一年編了這個2億然後我們要協助行警能力的部分一年編了11億這些我們可以為什麼不招募更多的這個我們行警能力補充行警能力有專業去執勤\n而不是這些保全公司保全公司一年一聘他專業怎麼去執行說每天搭飛機我每次搭飛機我都提心吊膽一條線竟然只有兩位而且你心裡有問題是保全公司能去看這樣國人搭機怎麼會安心呢所以我想請部長一定要請院長一定要支持行警能力部署現任的造局長 行警造局長\n剛到了一個月我立即跟他反映還有立即去改善最最重要的問題人力不足然後你這個保全公司一年一聘花了12億為什麼你不用設備更新呢你又自動的這個轉盤輸送帶空間不是不夠我覺得台灣的安檢整體的品質在國際上是倒數\n人力也好 專業也好我們用那麼多的這個所謂S光機然後那麼多的這個人身的安安檢設備很少有使用一台要440萬總共買了21台有沒有人力去執行比如說你要經過S光機你要手機舉起來你要經過這個安檢或者它逼的時候你要用那個掃描器看一下\n這個很少執行因為什麼 因為沒有能力空有設備 沒有能力這國際安全我非常憂慮 主要是能力不夠這能力不夠我想這個劉部長也了解也跟行政院反映過但是能力補充一直沒有辦法到位同樣非洲豬瘟只有台灣跟日本是非豬瘟國對不對日本有聘用每年用兩億去做一個安檢設施嗎\n我跟委員報告 因為日本我們在機場會比較加強檢疫就是最主要我們國內養豬還有廚餘的養豬系統我瞭解 你要嘛 你就全面做不要只有桃園機場做 桃園機場你是外聘的然後小港機場你是用海關去卡這個牽涉到場地 我也跟委員報告您剛才講人力的部分那特別行政特別是院長也有支持在檢疫的人員的部分\n那行政院人事總署那邊已經有多合配的一些人為了應用第三期的部分而且你那個看那個檢驗人員要專業那也是保全公司在看後續我們保全我們正職的人員我們會做調整公權力的行使不能用民間的保全業者市委員 行警人員的問題我再請劉部長能夠確實的去了解\n如果真的是行警人員不足這個保全的專業不足還有就是各種安檢的這個品質也不足的話我會發現年紀差距也蠻大的我看也有四五十歲也有二三十幾歲明年我們把發展觀光列為擴大內需重要的一環那既然這樣我們希望更多人進來流程要快也希望安檢的檢查要能夠徹底這個我們來檢討我寧願慢一點\n檢查仔細 精確一點 安全一點我們搭機才會安心嘛我們來檢討整個流程我離遠慢一點你根本就是如果留意形勢的話那這樣子對旅客這個飛行安全旅行安全是非常非常大的威脅我們會同時並進我們希望外國的旅客多來我也希望在程序上能夠讓他們覺得說台灣是一個親近的國家因為根據你就是人力不夠人力不夠你就來辦事\n然後這個設備你要更新不要還是用到這個二次世界大戰以後的那個行李行李轉盤還用人力去搬啊你那個放行李那個S光機的轉盤那個看慕林的行警人員有時候還要去幫忙拿盤子\n日本是在前面就用一個音箱廣播請你用日文 英文還有中文 韓文它廣播你什麼東西要拿出來什麼東西拿出來這個我們都可以學習嘛最起碼你行李輸送帶要讓它現代化一點它可以自動輸送嘛這不是沒有預算嗎是國境的安全這也是非常重要好 謝謝委員這個提醒我們來檢討這個過程\n每次質詢時間都過得很快好 謝謝謝謝委員謝謝院長 謝謝部長謝謝邱委員 謝謝卓院長\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:13.851 --> 00:42.884\n好謝謝主席有請行政院卓院長請卓院長備詢邱委員好卓院長你辛苦了站了一整天不會謝謝你對國家付出那麼多的努力跟奉獻特別這一陣子面臨到國際情勢的變化還有國內的這些災情行政團隊全力以赴\n\n00:44.117 --> 01:08.486\n先對行政團隊表示肯定感謝現在還沒進行關稅第五輪談判美方提出他的offer提出他的訴求他訴求我想他不是個人意見不是商務部長尼克的個人意見誤差人對分一定是美國政府的立場對我們而言這是一個很大的挑戰所以\n\n01:10.612 --> 01:36.241\n日軍副院長必須去美國提出我們的offerGtoG用政府協助用民間企業去佈局我們提供財政協助希望美國提供土地水電然後我們把這個竹科的經驗能夠複製到美國但美國不是完全沒有配合美國要配合土地水電我們用我們的經驗\n\n01:38.001 --> 01:42.249\n所以這種我想居土區的方式這並不是供應鏈產業的轉移這是供應鏈的擴大\n\n01:48.758 --> 02:14.646\n我想我這樣陳述代表行政團隊的立場我這樣陳述應該是正確的我比較認為他應該不叫一個園區而是一個服務園區服務我們的廠商去做一些工作真的未來要成立一個大的園區廠商要自述過去我們提供所謂財政協助或者行政資源美方也要配合這種情況之下居土區的方式美國能不能接受呢\n\n02:15.923 --> 02:31.035\n這個就是我們要善用到現在我們發展這麼多年的科學研究的經驗當世界各國尤其美方希望來學習複製的時候我們可以提供給他的是什麼程度但是剛剛部長也講了我們維持國家的產業的領導的關鍵地位\n\n02:34.017 --> 02:52.630\n一定要跟著台灣我們的核心技術一定要跟著台灣這種情況之下我們有別於日本模式跟韓國模式日本是擴大投資日本好像是5500億南韓是3500億我們是台灣模式台灣模式複製我們成功的協助在建築產業園區我們廠商也過去美國也配合\n\n02:55.952 --> 03:15.697\n這種是好的模式像外國的模式是財政上一筆錢這樣的投資的方式那我們是廠商去設廠的一種方式這對我們來講是廠商剛剛您說延伸或者是全球布局的一種但是他在那邊的生產跟國內的生產當然國內的這個領先的地位我們會維持住我們over這些\n\n03:16.917 --> 03:30.097\n目標就是說我們232條款能夠得到更好的條件然後疊加稅率不要再疊加或者原額關稅可以再降低這是我們努力的目標你有沒有信心達到這個目標\n\n03:31.837 --> 03:58.998\n我覺得以我們國家現在的科技發展實力以及我們跟美方之間未來透過更正常的一些採購方面來看我們可以就我們雙方的貿易平衡做很多的努力這個我們也在做如果這樣的話我們有在做貿易平衡的努力我們有我們產業上的優勢我們應該可以得到更合理的待遇接下來就是說這個月底11月初在APEC在韓國慶周\n\n04:00.595 --> 04:12.939\n當然川普是在上第二個任期第一次在亞洲所以我們的這個領袖代表已經決定了嗎是不是跟半導體有關係\n\n04:15.035 --> 04:41.472\n這個是釜放在作業一定要先跟APEC主辦方去有一些默契我期待是有半導體方面的領導者或者在全球有聲望的半導體高層或者有威望的半導體權威人士因為很難的機會可以跟各國領袖特別是川普能夠當面的做一些建議或者做一些會談也有可能\n\n04:42.960 --> 05:05.131\n所以人選已經決定了委員這樣的建議府方一定會非常重視我現在應該是從半導體來切入一個有國際聲望領袖級的半導體的權威人士代表台灣的領袖的會議這個應該APEC主辦方應該會接受吧我們提出的\n\n05:06.472 --> 05:34.860\n適當的人選我們都會經過正常的管道來表達我們參與這個的意願跟他的公安心這個月底應該就會確定了好那另外提到這個整個產業的因應我想這個國務長您9月3號也去跟我們這個岡山岡山是六四困啦六四困現在面臨最嚴峻的挑戰就是說全球六大洲市場現在只有北美市場不是北美市場全部加拿大也沒有了墨西哥也沒有了\n\n05:35.945 --> 05:54.281\n其他州也沒有因為中國的銷價競爭嘛中國的這個扣件都比我們這個便宜三成到四成所以我們只有美國的轟入美國市場因為美國沒有市場所以我們美國的市場很重要你看什麼協助金屬扣件大型的我覺得他有因應中小型的\n\n05:55.441 --> 06:10.194\n你們怎麼讓他能夠繼續來保持一定的經營能力一定的競爭力幾項的建議我想包括人力勞動力不足包括他們的下屆巔峰的電力成本\n\n06:10.894 --> 06:22.479\n是不是有可能去考量這些都是當場給您有提出建議也包括檢討或廢除5%的未分配盈餘加深因索稅制部分以減輕他們所謂的企業資金的壓力\n\n06:26.801 --> 06:44.764\n另外也希望央行跟財政部啊經管會能設出更多的資金來協助這個相關的這個中小型的這個擴建業者取得資金這是當天的會議的結論吧那我覺得這部分不曉得這個經濟部有沒有相關的看法\n\n06:45.945 --> 07:14.292\n報告委員像金融支持的部分我們一再的強調就是雨天一定不收傘甚至於還要撐大更大的傘所以在新的貸款部分我們還提供信保的部分而且在額度以下是10成10的保證而且利息呢事實上是有減免的來協助企業如果他需要資金的話我的感受他們告訴我啊這個他們並沒有特別有感覺啦這個都是現在已經正在做的\n\n07:15.270 --> 07:23.387\n特別情形特別時期有特別的做法讓這些中小型產業能夠維持生存維持競爭力讓他們有感很重要\n\n07:24.324 --> 07:45.356\n是我們跟公股航庫也好甚至於金管會還有銀行公衛都一再的講說雨天不能收產也就是說旧貸一定可以展延是沒有條件是繳息要正常而且可以展延半年然後利息還可以做一些節目9月3號你跟這些螺絲葉子做過座談到這邊一個月了對不對\n\n07:46.036 --> 07:59.390\n一個月他們所提出的事項你要很具體的答覆這些擴建業者讓他們了解我們政府有在做事有在協助產業發展這部分還沒有得到經濟部的相關訊息我們輔導團馬上組好就要下去了\n\n08:04.495 --> 08:21.473\n全台灣會在扣件是全台灣全球排名前三名的這個而且扣件都是很多的產業都需要扣件但是我們很希望說這個特別預算可以趕快通過我們才有辦法擴大實施要不然我們現在只能用以晚計期的方式以晚計期\n\n08:23.294 --> 08:44.214\n規模有限預算當然會過但是你要怎麼用對地方提供他們有感的政策有感的協助這點很重要再請國務部長再去深思另外有關於內政部跟國防部就是說內政部也編列加強反恐維安能量的這些以及關鍵基礎設施的防護效能\n\n08:45.595 --> 09:12.183\n竟然編了34億國防部也針對基礎設施關鍵的這些設施國外能量大概也編了大概428億特別提到國境國門我們出入境要維護國人旅搭機安全旅客安全第一個院長安檢是不是很重要\n\n09:14.024 --> 09:41.046\n行李的安檢第一個要充足人力第二個要有先進的設備要有專業的人員行警我常常從不管是從雄山桃園或者是小港我出境的時候發現一個問題人力非常非常不夠一個安檢線兩名同仁因為是行警同仁他要看monitor\n\n09:41.926 --> 10:10.532\n我們現在的行李輸送袋你的行李要放在那個要進去那個X光機他是用人工拿那個環子去只有一個保全公司人員一條安全線一個保全公司人員他還要拿行李然後還要告訴你說衣服要脫然後帽子要脫那個口袋要拿出來iPad要拿出來兩個人然後另外一個行情局還要專心看這個monitor看有沒有違禁品查到違禁品誰去看\n\n10:12.266 --> 10:25.096\n應當是有中巡力執法人員去看應該是行警局行警人力去看看的是誰是保全公司保全公司有這專業就發現這個違禁品到底是不是可以登記嗎\n\n10:27.304 --> 10:54.814\n追根就離啊就是第一個我們花那麼多的錢包括這個農業部那個安檢不是安檢就是朱溫一年編了這個2億然後我們要協助行警能力的部分一年編了11億這些我們可以為什麼不招募更多的這個我們行警能力補充行警能力有專業去執勤\n\n10:56.297 --> 11:25.212\n而不是這些保全公司保全公司一年一聘他專業怎麼去執行說每天搭飛機我每次搭飛機我都提心吊膽一條線竟然只有兩位而且你心裡有問題是保全公司能去看這樣國人搭機怎麼會安心呢所以我想請部長一定要請院長一定要支持行警能力部署現任的造局長行警造局長\n\n11:26.463 --> 11:54.674\n剛到了一個月我立即跟他反映還有立即去改善最最重要的問題人力不足然後你這個保全公司一年一聘花了12億為什麼你不用設備更新呢你又自動的這個轉盤輸送帶空間不是不夠我覺得台灣的安檢整體的品質在國際上是倒數\n\n11:56.397 --> 12:23.817\n人力也好專業也好我們用那麼多的這個所謂S光機然後那麼多的這個人身的安安檢設備很少有使用一台要440萬總共買了21台有沒有人力去執行比如說你要經過S光機你要手機舉起來你要經過這個安檢或者它逼的時候你要用那個掃描器看一下\n\n12:25.052 --> 12:54.077\n這個很少執行因為什麼因為沒有能力空有設備沒有能力這國際安全我非常憂慮主要是能力不夠這能力不夠我想這個劉部長也了解也跟行政院反映過但是能力補充一直沒有辦法到位同樣非洲豬瘟只有台灣跟日本是非豬瘟國對不對日本有聘用每年用兩億去做一個安檢設施嗎\n\n12:56.434 --> 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專業也好我們用那麼多的這個所謂S光機然後那麼多的這個人身的安安檢設備很少有使用一台要440萬總共買了21台有沒有人力去執行比如說你要經過S光機你要手機舉起來你要經過這個安檢或者它逼的時候你要用那個掃描器看一下"},{"start":745.052,"end":774.077,"text":"這個很少執行因為什麼 因為沒有能力空有設備 沒有能力這國際安全我非常憂慮 主要是能力不夠這能力不夠我想這個劉部長也了解也跟行政院反映過但是能力補充一直沒有辦法到位同樣非洲豬瘟只有台灣跟日本是非豬瘟國對不對日本有聘用每年用兩億去做一個安檢設施嗎"},{"start":776.434,"end":801.575,"text":"我跟委員報告 因為日本我們在機場會比較加強檢疫就是最主要我們國內養豬還有廚餘的養豬系統我瞭解 你要嘛 你就全面做不要只有桃園機場做 桃園機場你是外聘的然後小港機場你是用海關去卡這個牽涉到場地 我也跟委員報告您剛才講人力的部分那特別行政特別是院長也有支持在檢疫的人員的部分"},{"start":802.276,"end":823.312,"text":"那行政院人事總署那邊已經有多合配的一些人為了應用第三期的部分而且你那個看那個檢驗人員要專業那也是保全公司在看後續我們保全我們正職的人員我們會做調整公權力的行使不能用民間的保全業者市委員 行警人員的問題我再請劉部長能夠確實的去了解"},{"start":823.672,"end":845.618,"text":"如果真的是行警人員不足這個保全的專業不足還有就是各種安檢的這個品質也不足的話我會發現年紀差距也蠻大的我看也有四五十歲也有二三十幾歲明年我們把發展觀光列為擴大內需重要的一環那既然這樣我們希望更多人進來流程要快也希望安檢的檢查要能夠徹底這個我們來檢討我寧願慢一點"},{"start":848.699,"end":871.191,"text":"檢查仔細 精確一點 安全一點我們搭機才會安心嘛我們來檢討整個流程我離遠慢一點你根本就是如果留意形勢的話那這樣子對旅客這個飛行安全旅行安全是非常非常大的威脅我們會同時並進我們希望外國的旅客多來我也希望在程序上能夠讓他們覺得說台灣是一個親近的國家因為根據你就是人力不夠人力不夠你就來辦事"},{"start":872.472,"end":889.152,"text":"然後這個設備你要更新不要還是用到這個二次世界大戰以後的那個行李行李轉盤還用人力去搬啊你那個放行李那個S光機的轉盤那個看慕林的行警人員有時候還要去幫忙拿盤子"},{"start":892.145,"end":919.226,"text":"日本是在前面就用一個音箱廣播請你用日文 英文還有中文 韓文它廣播你什麼東西要拿出來什麼東西拿出來這個我們都可以學習嘛最起碼你行李輸送帶要讓它現代化一點它可以自動輸送嘛這不是沒有預算嗎是國境的安全這也是非常重要好 謝謝委員這個提醒我們來檢討這個過程"},{"start":921.761,"end":926.168,"text":"每次質詢時間都過得很快好 謝謝謝謝委員謝謝院長 謝謝部長謝謝邱委員 謝謝卓院長"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":438,"blocks":[["邱委員志偉：（15時34分）謝謝主席，有請行政院卓院長。"],["主席：請卓院長備詢。"],["卓院長榮泰：邱委員好。"],["邱委員志偉：卓院長，你辛苦了！站了一整天。"],["卓院長榮泰：不會、不會、不會。"],["邱委員志偉：謝謝你對國家付出那麼多的努力和奉獻，特別這一陣子面臨到國際情勢的變化，還有國內的這些災情，行政團隊全力以赴，先對行政團隊表示肯定和感謝！","現在臺美進行關稅第五輪談判，美方當然提出他的訴求，他的訴求我想不是個人意見，不是商務部長Lutnick的個人意見，產能五五對分一定是美國政府的立場，但是對我們而言，這是一個很大的挑戰，所以鄭麗君副院長必須去美國，提出我們的offer……"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["邱委員志偉：G2G，用政府協助，用民間企業去布局，我們提供財政協助，希望美國提供土地、水電，然後我們把竹科的經驗能夠複製到美國，但美國不是完全沒有配合，美國要配合土地、水電，我們用我們的經驗，所以我想這種G2G的方式並不是供應鏈產業的轉移，這是供應鏈的擴大，就行政團隊的立場，我這樣陳述應該是正確的。"],["卓院長榮泰：我比較認為他應該不叫一個園區，而是一個服務園區，服務我們的廠商去做一些工作，真的未來要成立一個大的園區，還要相當的努力……"],["邱委員志偉：廠商要自主過去，我們提供所謂財政協助或者行政資源……"],["卓院長榮泰：是、是、是。"],["邱委員志偉：美方也要配合……"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["邱委員志偉：在這種情況之下，這個G2G的方式，美國能不能接受呢？"],["卓院長榮泰：這個就是我們要善用現在發展這麼多年科學園區的經驗，當世界各國，尤其美方，希望來學習、複製的時候，我們可以提供給他的是什麼程度，但是剛剛部長也講了，我們維持國家產業領導的關鍵地位，這個絕對要把握……"],["邱委員志偉：沒有錯，一定要根留臺灣，我們的核心技術一定要根留臺灣……"],["卓院長榮泰：是、是。"],["邱委員志偉：好，這種情況之下，我們有別於日本模式及韓國模式，日本是擴大投資，日本好像是5,500億，南韓是3,500億，我們是臺灣模式，臺灣模式是複製我們成功的經驗協助建立產業園區，對不對？我們廠商也過去，美國也配合，這種是好的模式。"],["卓院長榮泰：外國的模式是財政上一筆錢這樣投資的方式，我們是廠商去設廠的方式，對我們來講，這是剛剛您說的廠商延伸或者是全球布局的一種，但是他在那邊的生產和國內的生產相比，當然國內的領先地位，我們會維持住。"],["邱委員志偉：我們offer這些的目標就是我們232條款能夠得到更好的條件，對不對？然後疊加的稅率不要再疊加……"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["邱委員志偉：或者原有的關稅可以再降低，這是我們努力的目標……"],["卓院長榮泰：這都是努力的，對。"],["邱委員志偉：你有沒有信心達到這個目標？"],["卓院長榮泰：我覺得依我們國家現在的科技發展實力，以及我們跟美方之間未來透過更正常的一些採購方面來看，我們可以就雙方的貿易平衡做很多的努力，這個我們也在做，如果這樣的話，我們有在做貿易平衡的努力，我們有我們產業上的優勢，我們應該可以得到更合理的待遇。"],["邱委員志偉：好。接下來就是這個月底、11月初APEC在韓國慶州登場，當然川普第二個任期，APEC一直在亞洲舉行，所以我們這個領袖代表已經決定了嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：應該是決定了。"],["邱委員志偉：是不是跟半導體有關係？"],["卓院長榮泰：這個是府方在作業。"],["邱委員志偉：還在作業，好……"],["卓院長榮泰：府方在作業。"],["邱委員志偉：因為一定要先跟APEC主辦方有一些默契嘛！我期待是由半導體方面的領導者，或者在全球有聲望的半導體高層，或者有威望的半導體權威人士，因為是很難得的機會可以跟各國領袖，特別是川普，當面做一些建議，或者做一些會談也有可能。所以人選已經決定了？"],["卓院長榮泰：委員這樣的建議，府方一定會非常重視。"],["邱委員志偉：我期待應該是從半導體來切入，由一個有國際聲望、領袖級、半導體的權威人士代表臺灣參加這個領袖的會議，APEC主辦方應該會接受吧！"],["卓院長榮泰：就我們提出的適當人選，我們都會經過正常的管道，表達我們參與這個的意願及他的功能性……"],["邱委員志偉：這個月底應該就會確定了，好。","另外，提到整個產業的因應，龔部長9月3號也去跟我們岡山……岡山是螺絲窟，螺絲窟現在面臨最嚴峻的挑戰就是，全球六大洲市場現在只有北美市場，而且不是北美市場全部，加拿大也沒有了，墨西哥也沒有了，其他洲也沒有了，因為中國的削價競爭，中國的扣件都比我們便宜三成到四成，所以我們只有美國的通路、美國市場，因為美國沒有設廠，所以美國的市場對我們很重要，你要怎麼協助金屬扣件廠商？大型的，我覺得它能因應，中小型的，你要怎麼讓它能夠繼續保持一定的經營能力、一定的競爭力？有幾項建議，我想包括人力、勞動力不足，包括他們夏季巔峰的電力成本，是不是有可能去考量？這些當場都有向您提出建議嘛！也包括檢討或廢除未分配盈餘加徵5%營所稅的部分，以減輕他們企業資金的壓力，另外，也希望央行跟財政部、金管會能釋出更多的資金，來協助相關中小型的扣件業者取得資金，這些就是當天的會議結論嘛！這部分不曉得經濟部有沒有相關的看法？"],["龔部長明鑫：是，報告委員，像金融支持的部分，我們一再的強調，就是雨天一定不收傘，甚至於還要撐更大的傘，所以在新的貸款部分，我們還提供信保，在一定額度以下是十成十的保證，而且利息是有減免的，以協助企業，如果它需要資金的話……"],["邱委員志偉：他們告訴我，他們並沒有特別有感覺，這個都是現在已經正在做的，特別情形、特別時期有特別的作法，要讓這些中小型產業能夠維持生存、維持競爭力，讓他們有感很重要。"],["龔部長明鑫：是，我們跟公股行庫也好，甚至於金管會還有銀行公會都一再的講，雨天不能收傘，也就是舊貸只要繳息正常，一定可以展延，而且可以展延半年，然後利息還可以有一些減免。"],["邱委員志偉：部長，9月3號你跟這些螺絲業者做過座談，到今天已經一個月了，他們所提出的事項你要很具體的答復這些扣件業者，讓他們了解我們政府有在做事，有在協助產業發展。"],["龔部長明鑫：是。"],["邱委員志偉：這部分還沒有得到經濟部的相關訊息。"],["龔部長明鑫：我們的輔導團馬上組好就要下去了，全臺灣會在……"],["邱委員志偉：部長，扣件是全臺灣排名前三名的產業，而且很多的產業都需要扣件。"],["龔部長明鑫：是，但是我們很希望這個特別預算可以趕快通過，我們才有辦法擴大實施，要不然我們現在只能用移緩濟急的方式，移緩濟急規模有限。"],["邱委員志偉：預算當然會過，但是你要怎麼用對地方，提供給他們有感的政策、有感的協助，這點很重要，請龔部長再去深思。"],["龔部長明鑫：是。"],["邱委員志偉：另外，有關於內政部跟國防部，內政部也編列加強反恐維安能量以及提升關鍵基礎設施防護效能的經費，今年編了34億；國防部針對提升關鍵基礎設施、國安能量大概也編列428億。我特別提到國境、國門，出入境時要維護國人搭機安全、旅客安全，院長，第一個，安檢是不是很重要？"],["卓院長榮泰：是。"],["邱委員志偉：行李的安檢，第一個，要有充足人力；第二個，要有先進的設備，要有專業的人員、航警。我不管是從松山、桃園或者是小港出境的時候，常常發現一個問題，人力非常非常不夠，一個安檢線兩名同仁，因為航警同仁要看monitor，我們現在的行李輸送帶，你的行李要進去X光機，是用人工拿盤子去，一條安檢線只有一個保全公司人員，他還要拿行李，然後還要告訴你說，衣服要脫、帽子要脫、口袋的東西要拿出來、iPad要拿出來，總共只有兩個人，然後另外一個航警還要專心看monitor，看有沒有違禁品，查到違禁品時，誰去看？應該是有公權力的執法人員去看，應該是航警的人力去看，但看的人是誰？是保全公司，保全公司有這個專業去發現那個違禁品到底可不可以登機嗎？追根究柢就是，第一個，我們花那麼多的錢，包括農業部針對非洲豬瘟，一年也編了2億，然後我們要協助航警人力的部分，一年編了11億，這些經費為什麼不用來招募更多的航警人力？可以補充航警人力，由專業去執行，而不是請保全公司，保全公司一年一聘，專業的部分他要怎麼去執行？我每次搭飛機時都提心吊膽，一條線竟然只有兩位，而且行李有問題時，是保全公司的人去看，這樣國人搭機怎麼會安心？所以請院長一定要支持航警人力不足。現任的航警局趙局長剛到任一個月，我立即跟他反映，他有立即去改善，最重要的問題是人力不足，然後保全公司一年一聘，花了12億，為什麼你不用在設備更新呢？你用自動的轉盤輸送帶，空間不是不夠！我覺得臺灣的安檢品質在國際上是倒數的，人力也好，專業也好，我們用那麼多的X光機，那麼多的人身安檢設備，卻很少使用，一台要440萬，總共買了21台，有沒有人力去執行？比方說你經過X光機時，你的手要舉起來，你要經過安檢，或者它「嗶」的時候，你要用掃描器看一下，這個很少執行，為什麼？因為沒有人力，空有設備卻沒有人力，對於國境安全，我非常憂慮，主要是人力不夠。有關人力不夠，我想劉部長也了解，也跟行政院反映過，但是人力補充一直沒有辦法到位。","同樣地，非洲豬瘟的部分，只有臺灣跟日本是非豬瘟國，對不對？"],["陳部長駿季：是。"],["邱委員志偉：日本有聘用，每年用2億去做一個安檢設施嗎？日本好像也沒有。"],["陳部長駿季：跟委員報告，我們在機場會比較加強檢疫，最主要是因為我們國內養豬及廚餘的養豬系統，所以這個……"],["邱委員志偉：我瞭解，要嘛你就全面做，不要只有桃園機場做，桃園機場是外聘的，然後小港機場是用海關去查……"],["陳部長駿季：這個牽扯到場地，我也跟委員報告，您剛才講人力的部分，行政院方面，特別是院長也有支持，在檢疫人員的部分，行政院人事總處已經有多核配一些人，為了因應第三期的部分。"],["邱委員志偉：而且看那個的檢疫人員要專業，但也是保全公司在看。"],["陳部長駿季：對，後續對於正職的人員，我們會做調整。"],["邱委員志偉：公權力的行使不能用民間的保全業者。"],["卓院長榮泰：是，委員，航警人員的問題，我請劉部長再確實去了解，如果真的航警人員不足，保全的專業不足，還有各種安檢的品質也不足的話，我們會全面來看。"],["邱委員志偉：我發現年紀差距也滿大的，我看有4、50歲的，也有2、30歲的。"],["卓院長榮泰：報告委員，明年我們把發展觀光列為擴大內需重要的一環，既然我們希望更多的人進來，那麼流程就要快，也希望安檢能夠澈底，這個我們來檢討。"],["邱委員志偉：我寧願慢一點，檢查仔細一點、精確一點、安全一點，我們搭機才會安心嘛！"],["卓院長榮泰：是，我們來檢討整個流程。"],["邱委員志偉：我寧願慢一點，如果流於形式的話，這樣對旅客的飛行安全、旅行安全是非常非常大的威脅。"],["卓院長榮泰：我們會同時並進，我們希望外國旅客多來，也希望在程序上能夠讓他們覺得臺灣是一個親近的國家。"],["邱委員志偉：追根究柢就是人力不夠，人力不夠就很難辦事。"],["卓院長榮泰：好，我們來檢討。"],["邱委員志偉：然後設備要更新，不要還是用二次世界大戰以後的行李轉盤，還要用人力去搬，放行李的X光機轉盤，有時候看monitor的航警人員還要去幫忙拿盤子，日本是在前面就放一個音響，然後用日文、英文、中文、韓文廣播，請旅客要把什麼東西拿出來，這個我們都可以學習嘛！最起碼行李輸送帶要現代化一點，它可以自動輸送，這不是沒有預算啊！這關乎國境的安全，這也是非常重要的。"],["卓院長榮泰：好，謝謝委員的提醒，我們來檢討這個過程。"],["邱委員志偉：每次質詢時間都過得很快。"],["卓院長榮泰：謝謝委員。"],["邱委員志偉：謝謝院長，謝謝部長。"],["主席：謝謝邱委員，謝謝卓院長。","下一位請林德福委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":214,"meet_id":"院會-11-4-3","speakers":["韓國瑜","江啟臣","張啓楷","吳思瑤","楊瓊瓔","林憶君","莊瑞雄","葉元之","王定宇","翁曉玲","陳亭妃","廖先翔","鍾佳濱","黃健豪","邱志偉","林德福","林岱樺","賴士葆","陳冠廷","洪孟楷","李坤城","徐欣瑩","賴瑞隆","謝衣鳯"],"page_start":98,"meetingDate":["2025-10-03"],"gazette_id":"1147801","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1147801_00007","1147801_00008"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第4會期第3次會議紀錄","content":"行政院院長、主計長、財政部部長、經濟部部長及相關部會首長列席報告「中央政府因應國際情\n勢強化經濟社會及民生國安韌性特別預算案」編製經過並備質詢─詢答完畢─","agenda_id":"1147801_00013"}}}