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00:00:28,300\n有請嚴主委謝謝主席請嚴主委黃委員好你好今天藉著這個退補會的業務報告來向主委及退補會還有所屬的一個農業體系的表達這個感謝那尤其在這一次我們花蓮光復鄉受到重災\n\n2\n00:00:29,580 --> 00:00:49,410\n而且我們退補會的農業體系在這次的花蓮的光復這個救災中北農育女分業緊急的啟動應變機制那這個收之後送大量的傷患所以並在4小時內就成立了臨時救這個\n\n3\n00:00:51,691 --> 00:01:15,140\n这个医疗战应该是在中央所属部会反应最快速的本席相信能如此最高效的表现一定是在平时的做好充分的这个演练灾情有所的一个警戒所以本席很清楚知道在毅力分院人力非常刺激的情况之下\n\n4\n00:01:15,940 --> 00:01:35,896\n本席之前執行使就曾經指出義理分院在負病比的高達1比12的情況之下有這麼艱困的條件之下那也能夠讓容院體系積極的反應不只是提供災民民生這個\n\n5\n00:01:38,218 --> 00:02:07,349\n生理上的一个医疗支持还有更重要的是当灾民看到荣愿医护人员的时候心理上获得安抚的是最可贵所以在这一次大大减少灾后灾民心理上的重建的难度那心理也感谢在这一次参与医护人员工作人员的无私的付出所以诸位你领导有方感谢我们重复的相信我们应该要做的\n\n6\n00:02:08,710 --> 00:02:25,001\n鄉親感受得到我們農民在這一次的救災當中非常的積極而且在應變機制上非常的好那另外就是我這邊也是感謝在退步會議主委對於只要有農民在\n\n7\n00:02:26,402 --> 00:02:43,149\n農業體系就醫的支持過去有農民在農業體系在醫院就醫的時候獲得在健保部分的負擔補助會按照退伍時進階的區別\n\n8\n00:02:45,431 --> 00:03:01,907\n當時有不少榮民向本席反映是規定的這個規約有點不公平所以在本席在過去在5月22日和去年的5月22日和今年的3月5日以主委會談後轉達榮民的心聲\n\n9\n00:03:05,470 --> 00:03:19,144\n之後也提出執行珍惜有殖農民健保部分負擔全部的全數補助都得到主委及積極正面的回應終於從今年的9月1號\n\n10\n00:03:21,566 --> 00:03:45,709\n榮民不分有無職業進階都能獲得同等照顧所有榮民其一事一利由退補會前額補助的健保部分的負擔所以這個就是全國的榮民感受得到我們在這一次退補會所做的這樣的一個積極的作為的諸位你認為現在的反應如何\n\n11\n00:03:47,644 --> 00:04:15,411\n陳儒剛剛委員所強調的我們9月1號公告了之後就是有職農民可以到各級農業免健保部分負擔當然大家的反應都非常正面但是我們現在不以此為滿足因為這些有職的農民當年都在軍中就診所以在軍中都留有健檢的記錄而且主要是習慣性的問題在軍院都習慣所以我們接續\n\n12\n00:04:18,132 --> 00:04:35,381\n會依照委員的指導跟關心我們會把有志中民能夠擴張到經院就醫免健保部分負擔我們要持續推動我們現在準備也在啟動修法的還有修就醫辦法的工作將來送行政院還有立法院來審議現在再啟動\n\n13\n00:04:36,261 --> 00:04:58,159\n另外就是特别提出来退不费在照顾农民的一个热忱本席非常的肯定不过本席再一次的强调照顾农民要从农民的角度思考这样政策才能真正的触动到农民的心理才能够将预算划在刀口上我这边特别提出是我知道国军有精英\n\n14\n00:04:59,761 --> 00:05:21,557\n國軍有軍醫院軍人的軍旅生涯少者三到五年多的可能到十年到二十年那例如諸位你從軍生涯很長那你在軍中服務期間身體如果有不適應該在優先選擇軍醫就醫的時候那人都知道的習慣有固定的就診的一個地方\n\n15\n00:05:22,097 --> 00:05:43,416\n那熟悉醫生的看診風格或醫院的看診流程後就不太願意選擇新的醫院的環境除了習慣外還有病歷資料的問題大部分的軍人或軍艦都習慣到軍醫的就診那所以病歷也在軍醫軍醫院留存的最完整\n\n16\n00:05:44,176 --> 00:06:11,212\n那所以许多军人结果结束金女生亚或我们为农民后这个还是会回到金医院看病但退不回目前对农民的就医优惠措施仅限于农民体系让农民选择上两难所以这件事本席在之前也询问过当时本席在提出案例在108年5月1号仅消\n\n17\n00:06:12,429 --> 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