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00:00:45,320\n委員好主委早主委好主委自從您在這個108年6月3號您的這個中選會主委就職啊到現在已經7年多了6年多6年7年了啦6年6年了嘛好OK那依照這個法律規定您的任期是到今年的11月3號是的是那基本上來講依照法律規定這個\n\n3\n00:00:46,933 --> 00:01:05,594\n應該要在中選會的各個委員任期滿三個月要辦理提名作業可是我們現在看到行政院到目前為止還沒有提出新的中選會委員的名單我們現在很擔心的是說中選會現在總共有十名委員\n\n4\n00:01:06,295 --> 00:01:26,424\n那包含您在內有6位委員的任期會在11月3號屆期期滿那現在行政院的發言人有說在9月2號有說就是在我們立法院開議以後要將中選會的同意權案送到立法院來做審議那請問一下就主委這邊你有收到消息什麼時候會送進來嗎\n\n5\n00:01:28,652 --> 00:01:35,719\n這個提名的人選這是屬於行政院的權限那中選會在這部分並沒有任何的訊息\n\n6\n00:01:37,472 --> 00:02:03,471\n那主委你不會擔心嗎現在10名已經有6名已經快要到期了我們是很擔心因為這個選務不能夠中斷那尤其明年的年底是要辦理地方公職人員選舉有很多選舉的前置作業一些這個應辦事項的期程的規劃都必須要在明年的年初就必須做預約規劃了\n\n7\n00:02:04,972 --> 00:02:18,989\n那這個規劃的事項有很多都是必須經過我們委員會的決議才能夠定案那委員會的決議你開會有一定的人數的門檻那我先請教一下如果這六名的委員到最後如果沒有送進來沒有這個\n\n8\n00:02:21,471 --> 00:02:45,919\n通過的話那中選會有辦法運作嗎我們是不希望看到這種狀況但是如果這種狀況發生的話真的是會使中選會的這個業務會陷於停頓所以在這邊拜託主委要跟行政院拜託因為10月份還有非常多的連假而且連假有些是在禮拜五的連假那這樣的話如果來不及送到立法院或者是送進來人選\n\n9\n00:02:47,439 --> 00:03:06,447\n這個立法院如果有意見的話是沒有辦法去做更改如果更改的話或是有意見的話現在已經有超過半數喔是已經屆滿的一個狀況所以要拜託主委這邊喔是不是也要跟行政院拜託一下趕快把這個名單收起來我們了解行政院有非常積極重視這個問題所以在積極尋覓適當的人選好那再問一個問題那主委你有推薦的人選嗎\n\n10\n00:03:10,307 --> 00:03:38,696\n月我知道你已經兩屆任滿了你有推薦新的中選會主委的沒有沒有我們尊重行政院長的提名權好謝謝那月主委你也即將齊滿在這邊先感謝你謝謝委員對於選務的支持好那第二個我還是要跟你請教就是有關於中選會在這次歷史上第一次我們看到整個台灣史上歷史上的一個大罷免\n\n11\n00:03:39,529 --> 00:04:07,437\n這個有32比0的這個一個狀況所以我還是要跟主委報告就是中選會在不管是選舉罷免是在選務機關是負責非常重要的職責那我這次在大罷免結束我個人有認為主要還是這個大罷免的這樣的狀況造成社會的分裂而其實是整個連署期間真的是太長了造成人民的對立有時候在街頭都看到人民跟人民互相針對一些不同的意見有紛爭\n\n12\n00:04:09,103 --> 00:04:13,940\n過去我們常說台灣最靦的風景是人可是這個大罷免就會造成人民的這個\n\n13\n00:04:15,650 --> 00:04:41,250\n對立跟撕裂的一個狀況那我個人本席個人覺得就是連署的期間過長那當時我有問請教過你說未滿一年不得罷免的這樣子的一個規定那當時你就是我們發現當然很多的民眾他們會認為說就是在那個立委任期剛滿的時候就已經開始有開始發起連署事實上有連署的這樣的一個我認為是漏洞的一個問題啊\n\n14\n00:04:42,196 --> 00:05:06,119\n那之前主委的回覆給我說是法無明文規定中選會管不到那現在大罷免已經結束了那我想要請問主委您的看法還是一樣嗎因為法律條文的規定是未滿一年不得提出不得提出所謂提出它是一個具體的一個動作就是向我們中選會來提出這個罷免的案子\n\n15\n00:05:07,190 --> 00:05:35,857\n那現在你有沒有覺得我們相關現在的法律的確是有一些疏漏的地方是可以來做調整的或者是你在解釋上是不是可以不要造成那個人民對立撕裂那麼嚴重這個恐怕不是中選會能夠去擔起你個人的意見我個人的意見是根據法律的規定我們能夠依法行政把這個選務能夠穩定的辦好這是我們的責任至於像侏儒\n\n16\n00:05:36,957 --> 00:06:05,181\n所謂的大罷免這個高度政治性的一個對立的狀況我們選務人員一定要嚴守中立而不能夠隨意的去評論我要跟主委報告這個意思就是說在我們的選舉投票選舉的時候是有很明確的法律規定什麼時候能做什麼事情都非常清楚可是罷免的這個部分就是很沒有很明確的一些什麼時候到底能做什麼事情導致大家各自解讀都不一樣所以我今天才趁主委\n\n17\n00:06:05,717 --> 00:06:17,195\n在的时候来进行请教啦那看起来主委还是没有很明确的一个想法当然你们在预算书里面是写说实务上因为不知道有没有人在联署所以很难查核啦\n\n18\n00:06:17,628 --> 00:06:43,941\n所以就是說跟你現在講的方式其實是有一點點的落差啦所謂預算書上面的這個說法應該是指的如果你用法律條文來限制在一年以前不得用任何的方式來做連署如果是這樣子的話那查核有困難但是就目前的法律條文的規定根本我們也沒有權利去查核\n\n19\n00:06:44,381 --> 00:07:04,137\n因為那是屬於言論自由行動自由的一個範圍好所以主委現在的意思還是法無明文規定所以就是大家自由新政是好謝謝第三個我要請教有關於這個您上任來您推的一直在推的一個非常重要有關於人民行使權利就是電子連署的一個部分\n\n20\n00:07:04,830 --> 00:07:29,281\n在去年上線了以後其實現在使用的狀況不是非常的熱絡現在我們是有公投的電子連署已經上線了可是人家我們一直說不管是公投連署跟你最近在我們的報告裡面有寫我們的罷免系統的部分還沒有上線就你而言你覺得什麼時候會上線\n\n21\n00:07:30,171 --> 00:07:59,385\n我們已經是建制完成了但是因為這個牽涉的這個關係比較重大所以我們是很期待一旦上線的話不能夠出任何的差錯所以現在公投已經是上線了我們希望看公投上線之後實際運作的這個狀況有沒有什麼地方是需要再去加強的那我們作為這個罷免上線的一個參考\n\n22\n00:07:59,824 --> 00:08:15,710\n好謝謝那最後一個問題那就請教其實我在今天看到你的報告書裡面沒有提到就是有關於不在籍投票的一個部分那不在籍投票因為其實我相信很多民眾這是行使投票的一個權利那就目前我本期有所了解只有選務人員\n\n23\n00:08:16,997 --> 00:08:41,026\n可以做不在籍投票的一個部分那就很多本席的我們很多的委員都有提到說有關於原住民或是錦囂其他的像錦囂一些老師這樣的公務人員有沒有機會未來來推不在籍投票請問主委你的意見是什麼公民投票的部分全國性公民投票的不在籍投票的草案我們已經第二度送到立法院來了\n\n24\n00:08:41,980 --> 00:09:07,158\n那我们是采取的这个移转投票的方式那这个移转投票的话他并没有限制什么样子的类别大家都可以有投票权人的国民就可以去申请所以这部分应该没有至于这个选举的部分这个是涉涉到这个内政部他们的权责这个我们也尊重内政部他们的规划\n\n25\n00:09:08,837 --> 00:09:11,109\n好好那好謝謝主委那謝謝謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3829\t10519\t好各位委員主席各位委員各位官員大家早有請李靜友主委加主委\n16738\t45320\t委員好主委早主委好主委自從您在這個108年6月3號您的這個中選會主委就職啊到現在已經7年多了6年多6年7年了啦6年6年了嘛好OK那依照這個法律規定您的任期是到今年的11月3號是的是那基本上來講依照法律規定這個\n46933\t65594\t應該要在中選會的各個委員任期滿三個月要辦理提名作業可是我們現在看到行政院到目前為止還沒有提出新的中選會委員的名單我們現在很擔心的是說中選會現在總共有十名委員\n66295\t86424\t那包含您在內有6位委員的任期會在11月3號屆期期滿那現在行政院的發言人有說在9月2號有說就是在我們立法院開議以後要將中選會的同意權案送到立法院來做審議那請問一下就主委這邊你有收到消息什麼時候會送進來嗎\n88652\t95719\t這個提名的人選這是屬於行政院的權限那中選會在這部分並沒有任何的訊息\n97472\t123471\t那主委你不會擔心嗎現在10名已經有6名已經快要到期了我們是很擔心因為這個選務不能夠中斷那尤其明年的年底是要辦理地方公職人員選舉有很多選舉的前置作業一些這個應辦事項的期程的規劃都必須要在明年的年初就必須做預約規劃了\n124972\t138989\t那這個規劃的事項有很多都是必須經過我們委員會的決議才能夠定案那委員會的決議你開會有一定的人數的門檻那我先請教一下如果這六名的委員到最後如果沒有送進來沒有這個\n141471\t165919\t通過的話那中選會有辦法運作嗎我們是不希望看到這種狀況但是如果這種狀況發生的話真的是會使中選會的這個業務會陷於停頓所以在這邊拜託主委要跟行政院拜託因為10月份還有非常多的連假而且連假有些是在禮拜五的連假那這樣的話如果來不及送到立法院或者是送進來人選\n167439\t186447\t這個立法院如果有意見的話是沒有辦法去做更改如果更改的話或是有意見的話現在已經有超過半數喔是已經屆滿的一個狀況所以要拜託主委這邊喔是不是也要跟行政院拜託一下趕快把這個名單收起來我們了解行政院有非常積極重視這個問題所以在積極尋覓適當的人選好那再問一個問題那主委你有推薦的人選嗎\n190307\t218696\t月我知道你已經兩屆任滿了你有推薦新的中選會主委的沒有沒有我們尊重行政院長的提名權好謝謝那月主委你也即將齊滿在這邊先感謝你謝謝委員對於選務的支持好那第二個我還是要跟你請教就是有關於中選會在這次歷史上第一次我們看到整個台灣史上歷史上的一個大罷免\n219529\t247437\t這個有32比0的這個一個狀況所以我還是要跟主委報告就是中選會在不管是選舉罷免是在選務機關是負責非常重要的職責那我這次在大罷免結束我個人有認為主要還是這個大罷免的這樣的狀況造成社會的分裂而其實是整個連署期間真的是太長了造成人民的對立有時候在街頭都看到人民跟人民互相針對一些不同的意見有紛爭\n249103\t253940\t過去我們常說台灣最靦的風景是人可是這個大罷免就會造成人民的這個\n255650\t281250\t對立跟撕裂的一個狀況那我個人本席個人覺得就是連署的期間過長那當時我有問請教過你說未滿一年不得罷免的這樣子的一個規定那當時你就是我們發現當然很多的民眾他們會認為說就是在那個立委任期剛滿的時候就已經開始有開始發起連署事實上有連署的這樣的一個我認為是漏洞的一個問題啊\n282196\t306119\t那之前主委的回覆給我說是法無明文規定中選會管不到那現在大罷免已經結束了那我想要請問主委您的看法還是一樣嗎因為法律條文的規定是未滿一年不得提出不得提出所謂提出它是一個具體的一個動作就是向我們中選會來提出這個罷免的案子\n307190\t335857\t那現在你有沒有覺得我們相關現在的法律的確是有一些疏漏的地方是可以來做調整的或者是你在解釋上是不是可以不要造成那個人民對立撕裂那麼嚴重這個恐怕不是中選會能夠去擔起你個人的意見我個人的意見是根據法律的規定我們能夠依法行政把這個選務能夠穩定的辦好這是我們的責任至於像侏儒\n336957\t365181\t所謂的大罷免這個高度政治性的一個對立的狀況我們選務人員一定要嚴守中立而不能夠隨意的去評論我要跟主委報告這個意思就是說在我們的選舉投票選舉的時候是有很明確的法律規定什麼時候能做什麼事情都非常清楚可是罷免的這個部分就是很沒有很明確的一些什麼時候到底能做什麼事情導致大家各自解讀都不一樣所以我今天才趁主委\n365717\t377195\t在的时候来进行请教啦那看起来主委还是没有很明确的一个想法当然你们在预算书里面是写说实务上因为不知道有没有人在联署所以很难查核啦\n377628\t403941\t所以就是說跟你現在講的方式其實是有一點點的落差啦所謂預算書上面的這個說法應該是指的如果你用法律條文來限制在一年以前不得用任何的方式來做連署如果是這樣子的話那查核有困難但是就目前的法律條文的規定根本我們也沒有權利去查核\n404381\t424137\t因為那是屬於言論自由行動自由的一個範圍好所以主委現在的意思還是法無明文規定所以就是大家自由新政是好謝謝第三個我要請教有關於這個您上任來您推的一直在推的一個非常重要有關於人民行使權利就是電子連署的一個部分\n424830\t449281\t在去年上線了以後其實現在使用的狀況不是非常的熱絡現在我們是有公投的電子連署已經上線了可是人家我們一直說不管是公投連署跟你最近在我們的報告裡面有寫我們的罷免系統的部分還沒有上線就你而言你覺得什麼時候會上線\n450171\t479385\t我們已經是建制完成了但是因為這個牽涉的這個關係比較重大所以我們是很期待一旦上線的話不能夠出任何的差錯所以現在公投已經是上線了我們希望看公投上線之後實際運作的這個狀況有沒有什麼地方是需要再去加強的那我們作為這個罷免上線的一個參考\n479824\t495710\t好謝謝那最後一個問題那就請教其實我在今天看到你的報告書裡面沒有提到就是有關於不在籍投票的一個部分那不在籍投票因為其實我相信很多民眾這是行使投票的一個權利那就目前我本期有所了解只有選務人員\n496997\t521026\t可以做不在籍投票的一個部分 那就很多本席的我們很多的委員都有提到說有關於原住民或是錦囂其他的像錦囂一些老師這樣的公務人員有沒有機會未來來推不在籍投票 請問主委你的意見是什麼公民投票的部分 全國性公民投票的不在籍投票的草案我們已經第二度送到立法院來了\n521980\t547158\t那我们是采取的这个移转投票的方式那这个移转投票的话他并没有限制什么样子的类别大家都可以有投票权人的国民就可以去申请所以这部分应该没有至于这个选举的部分这个是涉涉到这个内政部他们的权责这个我们也尊重内政部他们的规划\n548837\t551109\t好好那好謝謝主委那謝謝謝謝\n","txt":"好各位委員主席各位委員各位官員大家早有請李靜友主委加主委\n委員好主委早主委好主委自從您在這個108年6月3號您的這個中選會主委就職啊到現在已經7年多了6年多6年7年了啦6年6年了嘛好OK那依照這個法律規定您的任期是到今年的11月3號是的是那基本上來講依照法律規定這個\n應該要在中選會的各個委員任期滿三個月要辦理提名作業可是我們現在看到行政院到目前為止還沒有提出新的中選會委員的名單我們現在很擔心的是說中選會現在總共有十名委員\n那包含您在內有6位委員的任期會在11月3號屆期期滿那現在行政院的發言人有說在9月2號有說就是在我們立法院開議以後要將中選會的同意權案送到立法院來做審議那請問一下就主委這邊你有收到消息什麼時候會送進來嗎\n這個提名的人選這是屬於行政院的權限那中選會在這部分並沒有任何的訊息\n那主委你不會擔心嗎現在10名已經有6名已經快要到期了我們是很擔心因為這個選務不能夠中斷那尤其明年的年底是要辦理地方公職人員選舉有很多選舉的前置作業一些這個應辦事項的期程的規劃都必須要在明年的年初就必須做預約規劃了\n那這個規劃的事項有很多都是必須經過我們委員會的決議才能夠定案那委員會的決議你開會有一定的人數的門檻那我先請教一下如果這六名的委員到最後如果沒有送進來沒有這個\n通過的話那中選會有辦法運作嗎我們是不希望看到這種狀況但是如果這種狀況發生的話真的是會使中選會的這個業務會陷於停頓所以在這邊拜託主委要跟行政院拜託因為10月份還有非常多的連假而且連假有些是在禮拜五的連假那這樣的話如果來不及送到立法院或者是送進來人選\n這個立法院如果有意見的話是沒有辦法去做更改如果更改的話或是有意見的話現在已經有超過半數喔是已經屆滿的一個狀況所以要拜託主委這邊喔是不是也要跟行政院拜託一下趕快把這個名單收起來我們了解行政院有非常積極重視這個問題所以在積極尋覓適當的人選好那再問一個問題那主委你有推薦的人選嗎\n月我知道你已經兩屆任滿了你有推薦新的中選會主委的沒有沒有我們尊重行政院長的提名權好謝謝那月主委你也即將齊滿在這邊先感謝你謝謝委員對於選務的支持好那第二個我還是要跟你請教就是有關於中選會在這次歷史上第一次我們看到整個台灣史上歷史上的一個大罷免\n這個有32比0的這個一個狀況所以我還是要跟主委報告就是中選會在不管是選舉罷免是在選務機關是負責非常重要的職責那我這次在大罷免結束我個人有認為主要還是這個大罷免的這樣的狀況造成社會的分裂而其實是整個連署期間真的是太長了造成人民的對立有時候在街頭都看到人民跟人民互相針對一些不同的意見有紛爭\n過去我們常說台灣最靦的風景是人可是這個大罷免就會造成人民的這個\n對立跟撕裂的一個狀況那我個人本席個人覺得就是連署的期間過長那當時我有問請教過你說未滿一年不得罷免的這樣子的一個規定那當時你就是我們發現當然很多的民眾他們會認為說就是在那個立委任期剛滿的時候就已經開始有開始發起連署事實上有連署的這樣的一個我認為是漏洞的一個問題啊\n那之前主委的回覆給我說是法無明文規定中選會管不到那現在大罷免已經結束了那我想要請問主委您的看法還是一樣嗎因為法律條文的規定是未滿一年不得提出不得提出所謂提出它是一個具體的一個動作就是向我們中選會來提出這個罷免的案子\n那現在你有沒有覺得我們相關現在的法律的確是有一些疏漏的地方是可以來做調整的或者是你在解釋上是不是可以不要造成那個人民對立撕裂那麼嚴重這個恐怕不是中選會能夠去擔起你個人的意見我個人的意見是根據法律的規定我們能夠依法行政把這個選務能夠穩定的辦好這是我們的責任至於像侏儒\n所謂的大罷免這個高度政治性的一個對立的狀況我們選務人員一定要嚴守中立而不能夠隨意的去評論我要跟主委報告這個意思就是說在我們的選舉投票選舉的時候是有很明確的法律規定什麼時候能做什麼事情都非常清楚可是罷免的這個部分就是很沒有很明確的一些什麼時候到底能做什麼事情導致大家各自解讀都不一樣所以我今天才趁主委\n在的时候来进行请教啦那看起来主委还是没有很明确的一个想法当然你们在预算书里面是写说实务上因为不知道有没有人在联署所以很难查核啦\n所以就是說跟你現在講的方式其實是有一點點的落差啦所謂預算書上面的這個說法應該是指的如果你用法律條文來限制在一年以前不得用任何的方式來做連署如果是這樣子的話那查核有困難但是就目前的法律條文的規定根本我們也沒有權利去查核\n因為那是屬於言論自由行動自由的一個範圍好所以主委現在的意思還是法無明文規定所以就是大家自由新政是好謝謝第三個我要請教有關於這個您上任來您推的一直在推的一個非常重要有關於人民行使權利就是電子連署的一個部分\n在去年上線了以後其實現在使用的狀況不是非常的熱絡現在我們是有公投的電子連署已經上線了可是人家我們一直說不管是公投連署跟你最近在我們的報告裡面有寫我們的罷免系統的部分還沒有上線就你而言你覺得什麼時候會上線\n我們已經是建制完成了但是因為這個牽涉的這個關係比較重大所以我們是很期待一旦上線的話不能夠出任何的差錯所以現在公投已經是上線了我們希望看公投上線之後實際運作的這個狀況有沒有什麼地方是需要再去加強的那我們作為這個罷免上線的一個參考\n好謝謝那最後一個問題那就請教其實我在今天看到你的報告書裡面沒有提到就是有關於不在籍投票的一個部分那不在籍投票因為其實我相信很多民眾這是行使投票的一個權利那就目前我本期有所了解只有選務人員\n可以做不在籍投票的一個部分 那就很多本席的我們很多的委員都有提到說有關於原住民或是錦囂其他的像錦囂一些老師這樣的公務人員有沒有機會未來來推不在籍投票 請問主委你的意見是什麼公民投票的部分 全國性公民投票的不在籍投票的草案我們已經第二度送到立法院來了\n那我们是采取的这个移转投票的方式那这个移转投票的话他并没有限制什么样子的类别大家都可以有投票权人的国民就可以去申请所以这部分应该没有至于这个选举的部分这个是涉涉到这个内政部他们的权责这个我们也尊重内政部他们的规划\n好好那好謝謝主委那謝謝謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.829 --> 00:10.519\n好各位委員主席各位委員各位官員大家早有請李靜友主委加主委\n\n00:16.738 --> 00:45.320\n委員好主委早主委好主委自從您在這個108年6月3號您的這個中選會主委就職啊到現在已經7年多了6年多6年7年了啦6年6年了嘛好OK那依照這個法律規定您的任期是到今年的11月3號是的是那基本上來講依照法律規定這個\n\n00:46.933 --> 01:05.594\n應該要在中選會的各個委員任期滿三個月要辦理提名作業可是我們現在看到行政院到目前為止還沒有提出新的中選會委員的名單我們現在很擔心的是說中選會現在總共有十名委員\n\n01:06.295 --> 01:26.424\n那包含您在內有6位委員的任期會在11月3號屆期期滿那現在行政院的發言人有說在9月2號有說就是在我們立法院開議以後要將中選會的同意權案送到立法院來做審議那請問一下就主委這邊你有收到消息什麼時候會送進來嗎\n\n01:28.652 --> 01:35.719\n這個提名的人選這是屬於行政院的權限那中選會在這部分並沒有任何的訊息\n\n01:37.472 --> 02:03.471\n那主委你不會擔心嗎現在10名已經有6名已經快要到期了我們是很擔心因為這個選務不能夠中斷那尤其明年的年底是要辦理地方公職人員選舉有很多選舉的前置作業一些這個應辦事項的期程的規劃都必須要在明年的年初就必須做預約規劃了\n\n02:04.972 --> 02:18.989\n那這個規劃的事項有很多都是必須經過我們委員會的決議才能夠定案那委員會的決議你開會有一定的人數的門檻那我先請教一下如果這六名的委員到最後如果沒有送進來沒有這個\n\n02:21.471 --> 02:45.919\n通過的話那中選會有辦法運作嗎我們是不希望看到這種狀況但是如果這種狀況發生的話真的是會使中選會的這個業務會陷於停頓所以在這邊拜託主委要跟行政院拜託因為10月份還有非常多的連假而且連假有些是在禮拜五的連假那這樣的話如果來不及送到立法院或者是送進來人選\n\n02:47.439 --> 03:06.447\n這個立法院如果有意見的話是沒有辦法去做更改如果更改的話或是有意見的話現在已經有超過半數喔是已經屆滿的一個狀況所以要拜託主委這邊喔是不是也要跟行政院拜託一下趕快把這個名單收起來我們了解行政院有非常積極重視這個問題所以在積極尋覓適當的人選好那再問一個問題那主委你有推薦的人選嗎\n\n03:10.307 --> 03:38.696\n月我知道你已經兩屆任滿了你有推薦新的中選會主委的沒有沒有我們尊重行政院長的提名權好謝謝那月主委你也即將齊滿在這邊先感謝你謝謝委員對於選務的支持好那第二個我還是要跟你請教就是有關於中選會在這次歷史上第一次我們看到整個台灣史上歷史上的一個大罷免\n\n03:39.529 --> 04:07.437\n這個有32比0的這個一個狀況所以我還是要跟主委報告就是中選會在不管是選舉罷免是在選務機關是負責非常重要的職責那我這次在大罷免結束我個人有認為主要還是這個大罷免的這樣的狀況造成社會的分裂而其實是整個連署期間真的是太長了造成人民的對立有時候在街頭都看到人民跟人民互相針對一些不同的意見有紛爭\n\n04:09.103 --> 04:13.940\n過去我們常說台灣最靦的風景是人可是這個大罷免就會造成人民的這個\n\n04:15.650 --> 04:41.250\n對立跟撕裂的一個狀況那我個人本席個人覺得就是連署的期間過長那當時我有問請教過你說未滿一年不得罷免的這樣子的一個規定那當時你就是我們發現當然很多的民眾他們會認為說就是在那個立委任期剛滿的時候就已經開始有開始發起連署事實上有連署的這樣的一個我認為是漏洞的一個問題啊\n\n04:42.196 --> 05:06.119\n那之前主委的回覆給我說是法無明文規定中選會管不到那現在大罷免已經結束了那我想要請問主委您的看法還是一樣嗎因為法律條文的規定是未滿一年不得提出不得提出所謂提出它是一個具體的一個動作就是向我們中選會來提出這個罷免的案子\n\n05:07.190 --> 05:35.857\n那現在你有沒有覺得我們相關現在的法律的確是有一些疏漏的地方是可以來做調整的或者是你在解釋上是不是可以不要造成那個人民對立撕裂那麼嚴重這個恐怕不是中選會能夠去擔起你個人的意見我個人的意見是根據法律的規定我們能夠依法行政把這個選務能夠穩定的辦好這是我們的責任至於像侏儒\n\n05:36.957 --> 06:05.181\n所謂的大罷免這個高度政治性的一個對立的狀況我們選務人員一定要嚴守中立而不能夠隨意的去評論我要跟主委報告這個意思就是說在我們的選舉投票選舉的時候是有很明確的法律規定什麼時候能做什麼事情都非常清楚可是罷免的這個部分就是很沒有很明確的一些什麼時候到底能做什麼事情導致大家各自解讀都不一樣所以我今天才趁主委\n\n06:05.717 --> 06:17.195\n在的时候来进行请教啦那看起来主委还是没有很明确的一个想法当然你们在预算书里面是写说实务上因为不知道有没有人在联署所以很难查核啦\n\n06:17.628 --> 06:43.941\n所以就是說跟你現在講的方式其實是有一點點的落差啦所謂預算書上面的這個說法應該是指的如果你用法律條文來限制在一年以前不得用任何的方式來做連署如果是這樣子的話那查核有困難但是就目前的法律條文的規定根本我們也沒有權利去查核\n\n06:44.381 --> 07:04.137\n因為那是屬於言論自由行動自由的一個範圍好所以主委現在的意思還是法無明文規定所以就是大家自由新政是好謝謝第三個我要請教有關於這個您上任來您推的一直在推的一個非常重要有關於人民行使權利就是電子連署的一個部分\n\n07:04.830 --> 07:29.281\n在去年上線了以後其實現在使用的狀況不是非常的熱絡現在我們是有公投的電子連署已經上線了可是人家我們一直說不管是公投連署跟你最近在我們的報告裡面有寫我們的罷免系統的部分還沒有上線就你而言你覺得什麼時候會上線\n\n07:30.171 --> 07:59.385\n我們已經是建制完成了但是因為這個牽涉的這個關係比較重大所以我們是很期待一旦上線的話不能夠出任何的差錯所以現在公投已經是上線了我們希望看公投上線之後實際運作的這個狀況有沒有什麼地方是需要再去加強的那我們作為這個罷免上線的一個參考\n\n07:59.824 --> 08:15.710\n好謝謝那最後一個問題那就請教其實我在今天看到你的報告書裡面沒有提到就是有關於不在籍投票的一個部分那不在籍投票因為其實我相信很多民眾這是行使投票的一個權利那就目前我本期有所了解只有選務人員\n\n08:16.997 --> 08:41.026\n可以做不在籍投票的一個部分那就很多本席的我們很多的委員都有提到說有關於原住民或是錦囂其他的像錦囂一些老師這樣的公務人員有沒有機會未來來推不在籍投票請問主委你的意見是什麼公民投票的部分全國性公民投票的不在籍投票的草案我們已經第二度送到立法院來了\n\n08:41.980 --> 09:07.158\n那我们是采取的这个移转投票的方式那这个移转投票的话他并没有限制什么样子的类别大家都可以有投票权人的国民就可以去申请所以这部分应该没有至于这个选举的部分这个是涉涉到这个内政部他们的权责这个我们也尊重内政部他们的规划\n\n09:08.837 --> 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