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00:01:44,401\n委員任滿三個月前也就是8月3號應該就要提出了但到現在都還沒提出的原因您剛說是為了要積極的尋找那如果他到了12月還尋找不到的話那請問這中間的話您11月3號就卸任那12月他如果還找不到的話那請問一下中選會要怎麼來運作\n\n6\n00:01:46,563 --> 00:02:15,747\n我们期待这种情形不会发生那这个可能行政跟立法两院之间大家那行政院到现在都还没有提出是不是为了整个国家民主政治的能够这个完整的运作大家能够互相合作让这个人事案所以对于国家的民主运作能够完善的话应该是要在8月3号之前就要提出嘛但现在都还没有提出所以说呢\n\n7\n00:02:16,492 --> 00:02:32,177\n當然今天您也做了一個今天的報告那接下來我們要審中選會的預算那請問一下您現在所提的報告跟未來新任的主委上來之後如果你們的目標不一致的話那今天的報告算數嗎\n\n8\n00:02:34,065 --> 00:02:47,920\n今天的報告是我在主委的這個任期裡面按照大院所指示的我們所提出的有關業務方面的報告就大大的這個方向所提出的一些說明\n\n9\n00:02:48,801 --> 00:03:14,919\n我想這樣子的一個方向也是經過現在有效的委員會大家所做成的這個決議但是有六位就是馬上要到任了有六位都跟您一樣11月3號也就是說只剩四位有沒有辦法能夠代表未來的委員會他如果依照這個合法的方式能夠做一些政策的調整依照合法的方式的話我也想請教一下那個李主委\n\n10\n00:03:15,539 --> 00:03:25,450\n就是依這個中選會的組織法認滿這個前三個月應該要提名這個新任的委員那這個到底是屬於強制的義務還是努力的義務\n\n11\n00:03:27,949 --> 00:03:55,490\n這個應該有一些空間事實上現在是還沒有提出來所以這樣行政院算違法嗎我不認為它是違法那應該是怎樣我不認為它是違法但是銜接的問題我想行政院那請問一下中選會有發函給行政院要求他應該要立即提出人選嗎這個是行政院長的直言我的意思是說中選會有沒有發函提醒院長\n\n12\n00:03:57,123 --> 00:04:20,456\n應該要在這個8月3號之前提出其實院裡面相當了解這種狀況那你們有發函提醒他們嗎我們不會發函你們不會發函所以院裡相當了解可是就是不提出那所以我可不可以理解成在8月3號之前沒有提出是因為當時有這個726跟823的這個公投的這個我們罷免的這個案子所以他在當時不提出可不可以理解成這樣\n\n13\n00:04:21,953 --> 00:04:37,643\n這個我們不理評論這是我的理解啦但是我認為到現在還沒有提出的話應該要積極的提醒行政院應該是要在8月3號之前就要提出那另外呢再想請教一下這個李主委\n\n14\n00:04:38,303 --> 00:05:03,076\n就是我們依照公職員選舉罷免法第35條跟37條的規定立法委員的選舉區應該每10年檢討一次並在本屆任期前兩年兩個月的人口統計為準那我會請教您這個就是最近我們有在媒體報導看到說好像會提早來檢討這個選區的變更那想請教李主委有沒有這回事\n\n15\n00:05:05,138 --> 00:05:24,490\n这个我们跟内政部之间大家有交换过意见那可能现在的共识是在116年的时候我们会来进行检讨116年会进行检讨就是因为10年检讨一次第一次是96年96年第7任对\n\n16\n00:05:27,232 --> 00:05:46,219\n第七屆再上一次是106年所以下一次是106年所以你們現在會依表定的時間就是106年的11月左右要提出這個當時任期前兩年兩個月的人口數所以是依表定的目前的2027年的時間是嗎\n\n17\n00:05:51,485 --> 00:06:02,074\n116年我們會開始啟動檢討因為上一次是106年是這樣所以還是會依照表定的時間沒有錯那所以呢依照這樣子的話可能就是會在2027年啟動檢討然後在20大概三\n\n18\n00:06:06,598 --> 00:06:32,995\n2029年11月应该适用到第13届对就是等于2032年那一届现在11届12届13届就是2032年的届所以目前你们大概还是依照我们的法律规定的我们按照既定的行程法定的行程就10年检讨一次好谢谢谢谢李主委然后最后要请教您的就是这个公投的部分因为其实现在很多的民众都希望能够公投绑大选\n\n19\n00:06:35,837 --> 00:06:57,550\n在新國會智庫也有做一個民調就是有高達66.3%的民眾是支持要公投綁大選當然不外乎就是希望能夠節省我們的公帑能夠節省我們的選務的作業經費尤其是今年的一岸的公投綁大選就公投和三演繹就花了10億多那如果能夠在跟大選綁在一起的話這筆錢勢必一定能夠節省很多\n\n20\n00:07:01,773 --> 00:07:05,877\n所以現在大概大家都在探討這樣的一個時間那當然剛剛我有聽到主委在講說2018年的這個公投延宕造成我們整個的這個因為選務的工作會延長時間所以建議不綁大選可是\n\n21\n00:07:19,858 --> 00:07:35,519\n事實上有43.2%的民眾認為是中選會沒有規劃周延才會導致當年的一個亂象所以這個部分的話我覺得可能我們中選會要好好的來檢討一下既然民意所趨勢公投綁大選\n\n22\n00:07:37,031 --> 00:07:54,167\n應該來好好的檢討是不是要恢復過去這樣尤其我們剛剛也可以看到這個投票率你看我們以往如果公投綁大選大概都可以到五成五以上但這一次核三研議的這個公投在8月23提出這個它的投票率才29.53\n\n23\n00:07:56,249 --> 00:08:17,117\n那也就是說未來如果公投不綁大選事實上公投案要成案其實相對的都非常的不容易事實也是這樣所以說為什麼民眾期待是能夠公投綁大選第一個能夠充分的展現民意第二個也能夠節省公帑節省不必要的浪費那這是我想這是民眾大家普遍的一個\n\n24\n00:08:17,897 --> 00:08:41,905\n想法那當然在這邊因為時間的關係我也請主委要好好的演你這個公投綁大選如果說民意的話民意調查固然可以參考但是正式的公民投票在2021年的這個公投綁大選的公民投票他是沒有通過的那這個民意應該是更清楚就是那當時有公投綁大選嗎\n\n25\n00:08:44,093 --> 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從沒到這個月您的任期到11月3號那我想依照中選會的組織法第3條委員的任期是4年嘛您已經連任一次所以到11月3號就是您會卸任的時間\n33527\t60068\t那當然依照我們這個中選會的組織法也有提出行政院長因為任滿期前三個月提名新任委員這個並不提出缺那中選會現在有十位委員因為有一位委員之前就已經請辭了那其中六位都跟您一樣會在11月3號任期屆滿那請問一下行政院到現在有提名新任的委員嗎\n61549\t80141\t我們知道行政院他們很積極在尋找這個適當的人選那什麼時候可以提出來我想也會考慮到我們選務的這個運作所以我們也期待這個案子所以就是還沒嗎他們很積極在尋找適當的人選所以說依照我們中選會的組織法的話\n84984\t104401\t委員任滿三個月前也就是8月3號應該就要提出了但到現在都還沒提出的原因您剛說是為了要積極的尋找那如果他到了12月還尋找不到的話那請問這中間的話您11月3號就卸任那12月他如果還找不到的話那請問一下中選會要怎麼來運作\n106563\t135747\t我们期待这种情形不会发生那这个可能行政跟立法两院之间大家那行政院到现在都还没有提出是不是为了整个国家民主政治的能够这个完整的运作大家能够互相合作让这个人事案所以对于国家的民主运作能够完善的话应该是要在8月3号之前就要提出嘛但现在都还没有提出所以说呢\n136492\t152177\t當然今天您也做了一個今天的報告那接下來我們要審中選會的預算那請問一下您現在所提的報告跟未來新任的主委上來之後如果你們的目標不一致的話那今天的報告算數嗎\n154065\t167920\t今天的報告是我在主委的這個任期裡面按照大院所指示的我們所提出的有關業務方面的報告就大大的這個方向所提出的一些說明\n168801\t194919\t我想這樣子的一個方向也是經過現在有效的委員會大家所做成的這個決議但是有六位就是馬上要到任了有六位都跟您一樣11月3號也就是說只剩四位有沒有辦法能夠代表未來的委員會他如果依照這個合法的方式能夠做一些政策的調整依照合法的方式的話我也想請教一下那個李主委\n195539\t205450\t就是依這個中選會的組織法認滿這個前三個月應該要提名這個新任的委員那這個到底是屬於強制的義務還是努力的義務\n207949\t235490\t這個應該有一些空間事實上現在是還沒有提出來所以這樣行政院算違法嗎我不認為它是違法那應該是怎樣我不認為它是違法但是銜接的問題我想行政院那請問一下中選會有發函給行政院要求他應該要立即提出人選嗎這個是行政院長的直言我的意思是說中選會有沒有發函提醒院長\n237123\t260456\t應該要在這個8月3號之前提出其實院裡面相當了解這種狀況那你們有發函提醒他們嗎我們不會發函你們不會發函所以院裡相當了解可是就是不提出那所以我可不可以理解成在8月3號之前沒有提出是因為當時有這個726跟823的這個公投的這個我們罷免的這個案子所以他在當時不提出可不可以理解成這樣\n261953\t277643\t這個我們不理評論這是我的理解啦但是我認為到現在還沒有提出的話應該要積極的提醒行政院應該是要在8月3號之前就要提出那另外呢再想請教一下這個李主委\n278303\t303076\t就是我們依照公職員選舉罷免法第35條跟37條的規定立法委員的選舉區應該每10年檢討一次並在本屆任期前兩年兩個月的人口統計為準那我會請教您這個就是最近我們有在媒體報導看到說好像會提早來檢討這個選區的變更那想請教李主委有沒有這回事\n305138\t324490\t这个我们跟内政部之间大家有交换过意见那可能现在的共识是在116年的时候我们会来进行检讨116年会进行检讨就是因为10年检讨一次第一次是96年96年第7任对\n327232\t346219\t第七屆再上一次是106年所以下一次是106年所以你們現在會依表定的時間就是106年的11月左右要提出這個當時任期前兩年兩個月的人口數所以是依表定的目前的2027年的時間是嗎\n351485\t362074\t116年我們會開始啟動檢討因為上一次是106年是這樣所以還是會依照表定的時間沒有錯那所以呢依照這樣子的話可能就是會在2027年啟動檢討然後在20大概三\n366598\t392995\t2029年11月应该适用到第13届对 就是等于2032年那一届现在11届 12届 13届就是2032年的届所以目前你们大概还是依照我们的法律规定的我们按照既定的行程法定的行程就10年检讨一次好 谢谢 谢谢李主委然后最后要请教您的就是这个公投的部分因为其实现在很多的民众都希望能够公投绑大选\n395837\t417550\t在新國會智庫也有做一個民調就是有高達66.3%的民眾是支持要公投綁大選當然不外乎就是希望能夠節省我們的公帑能夠節省我們的選務的作業經費尤其是今年的一岸的公投綁大選就公投和三演繹就花了10億多那如果能夠在跟大選綁在一起的話這筆錢勢必一定能夠節省很多\n421773\t425877\t所以現在大概大家都在探討這樣的一個時間那當然剛剛我有聽到主委在講說2018年的這個公投延宕造成我們整個的這個因為選務的工作會延長時間所以建議不綁大選可是\n439858\t455519\t事實上有43.2%的民眾認為是中選會沒有規劃周延才會導致當年的一個亂象所以這個部分的話我覺得可能我們中選會要好好的來檢討一下既然民意所趨勢公投綁大選\n457031\t474167\t應該來好好的檢討是不是要恢復過去這樣尤其我們剛剛也可以看到這個投票率你看我們以往如果公投綁大選大概都可以到五成五以上但這一次核三研議的這個公投在8月23提出這個它的投票率才29.53\n476249\t497117\t那也就是說未來如果公投不綁大選事實上公投案要成案其實相對的都非常的不容易事實也是這樣所以說為什麼民眾期待是能夠公投綁大選第一個能夠充分的展現民意第二個也能夠節省公帑節省不必要的浪費那這是我想這是民眾大家普遍的一個\n497897\t521905\t想法那當然在這邊因為時間的關係我也請主委要好好的演你這個公投綁大選如果說民意的話民意調查固然可以參考但是正式的公民投票在2021年的這個公投綁大選的公民投票他是沒有通過的那這個民意應該是更清楚就是那當時有公投綁大選嗎\n524093\t553076\t就是公投没有过嘛公投有没有绑大选就没有嘛当然不会过如果公投绑大选这个提案就一定会过当时是因为公投没有绑大选所以他的投票率才41%当然不会过啊大家痛在心里那个心都还痛主委我觉得你导果为因啦所以这个部分我觉得公投绑大选如果可以好好的充分展现民意才是民众所需求的我站在选务机关的立场我要代表我全国的选务同仁他们不愿意\n553957\t567247\t在蒙受那麼大的一個災難我站在人民的立場我代表全國人民告訴您人民希望的是公投綁大選除了選務人員的心聲之外我們代表的是全國人民選務人員很辛苦我知道但是我們代表的是全國人民請您尊重民意 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從沒到這個月您的任期到11月3號那我想依照中選會的組織法第3條委員的任期是4年嘛您已經連任一次所以到11月3號就是您會卸任的時間\n那當然依照我們這個中選會的組織法也有提出行政院長因為任滿期前三個月提名新任委員這個並不提出缺那中選會現在有十位委員因為有一位委員之前就已經請辭了那其中六位都跟您一樣會在11月3號任期屆滿那請問一下行政院到現在有提名新任的委員嗎\n我們知道行政院他們很積極在尋找這個適當的人選那什麼時候可以提出來我想也會考慮到我們選務的這個運作所以我們也期待這個案子所以就是還沒嗎他們很積極在尋找適當的人選所以說依照我們中選會的組織法的話\n委員任滿三個月前也就是8月3號應該就要提出了但到現在都還沒提出的原因您剛說是為了要積極的尋找那如果他到了12月還尋找不到的話那請問這中間的話您11月3號就卸任那12月他如果還找不到的話那請問一下中選會要怎麼來運作\n我们期待这种情形不会发生那这个可能行政跟立法两院之间大家那行政院到现在都还没有提出是不是为了整个国家民主政治的能够这个完整的运作大家能够互相合作让这个人事案所以对于国家的民主运作能够完善的话应该是要在8月3号之前就要提出嘛但现在都还没有提出所以说呢\n當然今天您也做了一個今天的報告那接下來我們要審中選會的預算那請問一下您現在所提的報告跟未來新任的主委上來之後如果你們的目標不一致的話那今天的報告算數嗎\n今天的報告是我在主委的這個任期裡面按照大院所指示的我們所提出的有關業務方面的報告就大大的這個方向所提出的一些說明\n我想這樣子的一個方向也是經過現在有效的委員會大家所做成的這個決議但是有六位就是馬上要到任了有六位都跟您一樣11月3號也就是說只剩四位有沒有辦法能夠代表未來的委員會他如果依照這個合法的方式能夠做一些政策的調整依照合法的方式的話我也想請教一下那個李主委\n就是依這個中選會的組織法認滿這個前三個月應該要提名這個新任的委員那這個到底是屬於強制的義務還是努力的義務\n這個應該有一些空間事實上現在是還沒有提出來所以這樣行政院算違法嗎我不認為它是違法那應該是怎樣我不認為它是違法但是銜接的問題我想行政院那請問一下中選會有發函給行政院要求他應該要立即提出人選嗎這個是行政院長的直言我的意思是說中選會有沒有發函提醒院長\n應該要在這個8月3號之前提出其實院裡面相當了解這種狀況那你們有發函提醒他們嗎我們不會發函你們不會發函所以院裡相當了解可是就是不提出那所以我可不可以理解成在8月3號之前沒有提出是因為當時有這個726跟823的這個公投的這個我們罷免的這個案子所以他在當時不提出可不可以理解成這樣\n這個我們不理評論這是我的理解啦但是我認為到現在還沒有提出的話應該要積極的提醒行政院應該是要在8月3號之前就要提出那另外呢再想請教一下這個李主委\n就是我們依照公職員選舉罷免法第35條跟37條的規定立法委員的選舉區應該每10年檢討一次並在本屆任期前兩年兩個月的人口統計為準那我會請教您這個就是最近我們有在媒體報導看到說好像會提早來檢討這個選區的變更那想請教李主委有沒有這回事\n这个我们跟内政部之间大家有交换过意见那可能现在的共识是在116年的时候我们会来进行检讨116年会进行检讨就是因为10年检讨一次第一次是96年96年第7任对\n第七屆再上一次是106年所以下一次是106年所以你們現在會依表定的時間就是106年的11月左右要提出這個當時任期前兩年兩個月的人口數所以是依表定的目前的2027年的時間是嗎\n116年我們會開始啟動檢討因為上一次是106年是這樣所以還是會依照表定的時間沒有錯那所以呢依照這樣子的話可能就是會在2027年啟動檢討然後在20大概三\n2029年11月应该适用到第13届对 就是等于2032年那一届现在11届 12届 13届就是2032年的届所以目前你们大概还是依照我们的法律规定的我们按照既定的行程法定的行程就10年检讨一次好 谢谢 谢谢李主委然后最后要请教您的就是这个公投的部分因为其实现在很多的民众都希望能够公投绑大选\n在新國會智庫也有做一個民調就是有高達66.3%的民眾是支持要公投綁大選當然不外乎就是希望能夠節省我們的公帑能夠節省我們的選務的作業經費尤其是今年的一岸的公投綁大選就公投和三演繹就花了10億多那如果能夠在跟大選綁在一起的話這筆錢勢必一定能夠節省很多\n所以現在大概大家都在探討這樣的一個時間那當然剛剛我有聽到主委在講說2018年的這個公投延宕造成我們整個的這個因為選務的工作會延長時間所以建議不綁大選可是\n事實上有43.2%的民眾認為是中選會沒有規劃周延才會導致當年的一個亂象所以這個部分的話我覺得可能我們中選會要好好的來檢討一下既然民意所趨勢公投綁大選\n應該來好好的檢討是不是要恢復過去這樣尤其我們剛剛也可以看到這個投票率你看我們以往如果公投綁大選大概都可以到五成五以上但這一次核三研議的這個公投在8月23提出這個它的投票率才29.53\n那也就是說未來如果公投不綁大選事實上公投案要成案其實相對的都非常的不容易事實也是這樣所以說為什麼民眾期待是能夠公投綁大選第一個能夠充分的展現民意第二個也能夠節省公帑節省不必要的浪費那這是我想這是民眾大家普遍的一個\n想法那當然在這邊因為時間的關係我也請主委要好好的演你這個公投綁大選如果說民意的話民意調查固然可以參考但是正式的公民投票在2021年的這個公投綁大選的公民投票他是沒有通過的那這個民意應該是更清楚就是那當時有公投綁大選嗎\n就是公投没有过嘛公投有没有绑大选就没有嘛当然不会过如果公投绑大选这个提案就一定会过当时是因为公投没有绑大选所以他的投票率才41%当然不会过啊大家痛在心里那个心都还痛主委我觉得你导果为因啦所以这个部分我觉得公投绑大选如果可以好好的充分展现民意才是民众所需求的我站在选务机关的立场我要代表我全国的选务同仁他们不愿意\n在蒙受那麼大的一個災難我站在人民的立場我代表全國人民告訴您人民希望的是公投綁大選除了選務人員的心聲之外我們代表的是全國人民選務人員很辛苦我知道但是我們代表的是全國人民請您尊重民意 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.261 --> 00:07.174\n謝謝主席我們請中選會李主委南京上主委\n\n00:12.321 --> 00:32.387\n主委好主委好主委我想請教您您的任期是到什麼時候11月3號從沒到這個月您的任期到11月3號那我想依照中選會的組織法第3條委員的任期是4年嘛您已經連任一次所以到11月3號就是您會卸任的時間\n\n00:33.527 --> 01:00.068\n那當然依照我們這個中選會的組織法也有提出行政院長因為任滿期前三個月提名新任委員這個並不提出缺那中選會現在有十位委員因為有一位委員之前就已經請辭了那其中六位都跟您一樣會在11月3號任期屆滿那請問一下行政院到現在有提名新任的委員嗎\n\n01:01.549 --> 01:20.141\n我們知道行政院他們很積極在尋找這個適當的人選那什麼時候可以提出來我想也會考慮到我們選務的這個運作所以我們也期待這個案子所以就是還沒嗎他們很積極在尋找適當的人選所以說依照我們中選會的組織法的話\n\n01:24.984 --> 01:44.401\n委員任滿三個月前也就是8月3號應該就要提出了但到現在都還沒提出的原因您剛說是為了要積極的尋找那如果他到了12月還尋找不到的話那請問這中間的話您11月3號就卸任那12月他如果還找不到的話那請問一下中選會要怎麼來運作\n\n01:46.563 --> 02:15.747\n我们期待这种情形不会发生那这个可能行政跟立法两院之间大家那行政院到现在都还没有提出是不是为了整个国家民主政治的能够这个完整的运作大家能够互相合作让这个人事案所以对于国家的民主运作能够完善的话应该是要在8月3号之前就要提出嘛但现在都还没有提出所以说呢\n\n02:16.492 --> 02:32.177\n當然今天您也做了一個今天的報告那接下來我們要審中選會的預算那請問一下您現在所提的報告跟未來新任的主委上來之後如果你們的目標不一致的話那今天的報告算數嗎\n\n02:34.065 --> 02:47.920\n今天的報告是我在主委的這個任期裡面按照大院所指示的我們所提出的有關業務方面的報告就大大的這個方向所提出的一些說明\n\n02:48.801 --> 03:14.919\n我想這樣子的一個方向也是經過現在有效的委員會大家所做成的這個決議但是有六位就是馬上要到任了有六位都跟您一樣11月3號也就是說只剩四位有沒有辦法能夠代表未來的委員會他如果依照這個合法的方式能夠做一些政策的調整依照合法的方式的話我也想請教一下那個李主委\n\n03:15.539 --> 03:25.450\n就是依這個中選會的組織法認滿這個前三個月應該要提名這個新任的委員那這個到底是屬於強制的義務還是努力的義務\n\n03:27.949 --> 03:55.490\n這個應該有一些空間事實上現在是還沒有提出來所以這樣行政院算違法嗎我不認為它是違法那應該是怎樣我不認為它是違法但是銜接的問題我想行政院那請問一下中選會有發函給行政院要求他應該要立即提出人選嗎這個是行政院長的直言我的意思是說中選會有沒有發函提醒院長\n\n03:57.123 --> 04:20.456\n應該要在這個8月3號之前提出其實院裡面相當了解這種狀況那你們有發函提醒他們嗎我們不會發函你們不會發函所以院裡相當了解可是就是不提出那所以我可不可以理解成在8月3號之前沒有提出是因為當時有這個726跟823的這個公投的這個我們罷免的這個案子所以他在當時不提出可不可以理解成這樣\n\n04:21.953 --> 04:37.643\n這個我們不理評論這是我的理解啦但是我認為到現在還沒有提出的話應該要積極的提醒行政院應該是要在8月3號之前就要提出那另外呢再想請教一下這個李主委\n\n04:38.303 --> 05:03.076\n就是我們依照公職員選舉罷免法第35條跟37條的規定立法委員的選舉區應該每10年檢討一次並在本屆任期前兩年兩個月的人口統計為準那我會請教您這個就是最近我們有在媒體報導看到說好像會提早來檢討這個選區的變更那想請教李主委有沒有這回事\n\n05:05.138 --> 05:24.490\n这个我们跟内政部之间大家有交换过意见那可能现在的共识是在116年的时候我们会来进行检讨116年会进行检讨就是因为10年检讨一次第一次是96年96年第7任对\n\n05:27.232 --> 05:46.219\n第七屆再上一次是106年所以下一次是106年所以你們現在會依表定的時間就是106年的11月左右要提出這個當時任期前兩年兩個月的人口數所以是依表定的目前的2027年的時間是嗎\n\n05:51.485 --> 06:02.074\n116年我們會開始啟動檢討因為上一次是106年是這樣所以還是會依照表定的時間沒有錯那所以呢依照這樣子的話可能就是會在2027年啟動檢討然後在20大概三\n\n06:06.598 --> 06:32.995\n2029年11月应该适用到第13届对就是等于2032年那一届现在11届12届13届就是2032年的届所以目前你们大概还是依照我们的法律规定的我们按照既定的行程法定的行程就10年检讨一次好谢谢谢谢李主委然后最后要请教您的就是这个公投的部分因为其实现在很多的民众都希望能够公投绑大选\n\n06:35.837 --> 06:57.550\n在新國會智庫也有做一個民調就是有高達66.3%的民眾是支持要公投綁大選當然不外乎就是希望能夠節省我們的公帑能夠節省我們的選務的作業經費尤其是今年的一岸的公投綁大選就公投和三演繹就花了10億多那如果能夠在跟大選綁在一起的話這筆錢勢必一定能夠節省很多\n\n07:01.773 --> 07:05.877\n所以現在大概大家都在探討這樣的一個時間那當然剛剛我有聽到主委在講說2018年的這個公投延宕造成我們整個的這個因為選務的工作會延長時間所以建議不綁大選可是\n\n07:19.858 --> 07:35.519\n事實上有43.2%的民眾認為是中選會沒有規劃周延才會導致當年的一個亂象所以這個部分的話我覺得可能我們中選會要好好的來檢討一下既然民意所趨勢公投綁大選\n\n07:37.031 --> 07:54.167\n應該來好好的檢討是不是要恢復過去這樣尤其我們剛剛也可以看到這個投票率你看我們以往如果公投綁大選大概都可以到五成五以上但這一次核三研議的這個公投在8月23提出這個它的投票率才29.53\n\n07:56.249 --> 08:17.117\n那也就是說未來如果公投不綁大選事實上公投案要成案其實相對的都非常的不容易事實也是這樣所以說為什麼民眾期待是能夠公投綁大選第一個能夠充分的展現民意第二個也能夠節省公帑節省不必要的浪費那這是我想這是民眾大家普遍的一個\n\n08:17.897 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就是等于2032年那一届现在11届 12届 13届就是2032年的届所以目前你们大概还是依照我们的法律规定的我们按照既定的行程法定的行程就10年检讨一次好 谢谢 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