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00:01:14,693\n那另外我們看到政府對公共資源的這個挹注是舉世皆然德國預計明年起還要投入65億歐元相當於台幣2000\n\n5\n00:01:17,554 --> 00:01:33,140\n80億元來補貼輸電的費用來透過降低電力輸送成本那渴望讓家庭的平均電價會下降4%那這項補貼的計畫將由德國的四大輸電業者共同執行而且這筆錢也會用來投資電網基礎的建設那我們反觀台灣部長我們又有什麼樣的計畫來支持電網韌性和民生用電\n\n6\n00:01:46,542 --> 00:02:04,501\n就像剛剛委員有提到的我們本來是希望因為當初台電在無二戰爭開始的時候那時候成本大幅上升所以台電公司也吸收了這個差價累積起來有好幾千億我們希望透過政府可以撥補的狀況把他這個財政的狀況可以做改善\n\n7\n00:02:07,904 --> 00:02:24,581\n那如果這個財政沒改善的話我們也希望說電網韌性的部分有些預算可以來加強那這一次本來提的這個韌性條例裡面我們事實上有編了200億但是後來也被刪掉了那如果在這樣情況之下就像委員講的我們就只能就既有的這個預算金額\n\n8\n00:02:27,423 --> 00:02:54,419\n就是等於是很減緩的來做沒有辦法像快速的大規模來因應這些可能的災害比較大規模急速的來辦理變成這樣子所以我們也懇請大院如果可以讓台電的財務更健全的話那他在施作這個部分他的規模跟速度就可以加快跟加大好謝謝部長那接下來本席想請教海委會就有關於海巡署有辦理這個\n\n9\n00:02:55,780 --> 00:03:14,710\n海域徵收海域徵收及巡防這個籌借的這個計畫有關於無人機應用的部分我們看到這個無人機無人艇的應用可說是進來的世界潮流那不僅廣泛運用在軍事佈局當然也運用在我們海巡署的海岸巡防\n\n10\n00:03:15,751 --> 00:03:37,480\n我想請教師說那無人機的應用有幾個問題喔譬如說飛行的續航力或者是環境的適應那最重要的是目前喔我們我國操作的這個人手不足的問題那請問在這筆特別預算裡面有沒有把握來補足遇到目前遇到的這些問題那怎麼樣去運用這樣的經費\n\n11\n00:03:39,020 --> 00:03:57,114\n各位委員報告我們第一批完成授訓考照已經在前兩天考完了所以人才的問題培訓我們都已經前瞻部署都已經超前部署考照前兩天就第一批考了那我相信應該成績會不錯\n\n12\n00:03:59,936 --> 00:04:28,235\n所以請委員放心我們有各種不同類型的無人機根據它的耐風性還有根據它的續航力還有它的距離都有不一樣的部署最重要的是希望說空中的量能一定要完成好謝謝主委那我們再來請教勞動部有一個推動植物在設計服務計畫這個其實是為了減緩身心障礙者工作上的障礙\n\n13\n00:04:29,816 --> 00:04:36,363\n然後勞動部的這個推動植物再設計服務計畫它可以補助相關的輔具那本席對於這項計畫的輔具費用的補助設計有點疑問\n\n14\n00:04:39,554 --> 00:05:07,162\n我舉例來說以申請補助這個點字觸摸顯示器為例高階一點的這個點字觸摸顯示器超過差不多10萬塊那網路上查到有超過12萬那我們就以12萬元來看點字觸摸顯示器在身心障礙者輔具費用補助基準表裡面最高補助是7萬元那如果不是低收跟中低收那輔助費用\n\n15\n00:05:07,862 --> 00:05:27,133\n最高補助是50%也就是3萬5千元那代表一般的民眾還要負擔8萬5千那依照勞動部喔這個推動植物再設計服務計畫第11點的規定補助額度應先扣除身心障礙者之社政補助最高額等於是你購買12萬還要扣掉這個社政補助最高7萬那勞動部只補助5萬那而且條文中我提到說再就其餘額據以評估\n\n16\n00:05:36,499 --> 00:05:55,444\n也就是說扣掉社增的最高補助勞動部不一定會補滿因為時間的關係所以要請教說那像這樣子的話有沒有所謂改善的空間因為以日本為例的話日本是補助九成九成是政府負擔一成才是自行負擔所以如果按照這樣的話他三吃十那我們有改善的空間嗎\n\n17\n00:05:56,564 --> 00:06:15,954\n謝謝委員,我們基本上應該這樣看,聲音障礙朋友就業是一個重點,我們認為在合理調整都是需要的,政府機關能夠協助的部分,一個重點就是輔具的提供,有關於相關輔具的一些規定或者資格條件,這部分我們會回過頭來,再來仔細看。\n\n18\n00:06:17,295 --> 00:06:26,463\n再檢討看看啦你看日本就補助九成也是輔具啊OK好謝謝次長謝謝主席好謝謝我們林委員接下來請李昆城委員發言\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n330\t2073\t還有勞動部陳次長勞動部陳次長陳明仁陳次長另外一位好\n9468\t27842\t好 先請教經濟部長我想今天討論的是有關國家韌性我想一個有韌性的國家平時就讓各部會要發揮最佳的動能才不會在緊急的狀況的時候應變不來可是我們卻看到在野黨多次刪除政府對台電撥補的預算嚴重傷害國家韌性\n33106\t60727\t我想台電大家都知道他不是一般的私人公司他是公用事業喔那平時承擔穩定電價強化電網韌性保障民生的責任遇上天災還要趕上第一線去搶修那這些公共服務並不會從天而降那都需要公共投資喔所以待會要請經濟部長一併說明就如果長期在野黨持續阻擋撥補台電的預算那經濟部你評估國家會受到哪些的衝擊喔\n61448\t74693\t那另外我們看到政府對公共資源的這個挹注是舉世皆然德國預計明年起還要投入65億歐元相當於台幣2000\n77554\t93140\t80億元來補貼輸電的費用來透過降低電力輸送成本那渴望讓家庭的平均電價會下降4%那這項補貼的計畫將由德國的四大輸電業者共同執行而且這筆錢也會用來投資電網基礎的建設那我們反觀台灣部長我們又有什麼樣的計畫來支持電網韌性和民生用電\n106542\t124501\t就像剛剛委員有提到的我們本來是希望因為當初台電在無二戰爭開始的時候那時候成本大幅上升所以台電公司也吸收了這個差價累積起來有好幾千億我們希望透過政府可以撥補的狀況把他這個財政的狀況可以做改善\n127904\t144581\t那如果這個財政沒改善的話我們也希望說電網韌性的部分有些預算可以來加強那這一次本來提的這個韌性條例裡面我們事實上有編了200億但是後來也被刪掉了那如果在這樣情況之下就像委員講的我們就只能就既有的這個預算金額\n147423\t174419\t就是等於是很減緩的來做沒有辦法像快速的大規模來因應這些可能的災害比較大規模急速的來辦理變成這樣子所以我們也懇請大院如果可以讓台電的財務更健全的話那他在施作這個部分他的規模跟速度就可以加快跟加大好 謝謝部長那接下來本席想請教海委會就有關於海巡署有辦理這個\n175780\t194710\t海域徵收海域徵收及巡防這個籌借的這個計畫有關於無人機應用的部分我們看到這個無人機無人艇的應用可說是進來的世界潮流那不僅廣泛運用在軍事佈局當然也運用在我們海巡署的海岸巡防\n195751\t217480\t我想請教師說那無人機的應用有幾個問題喔譬如說飛行的續航力或者是環境的適應那最重要的是目前喔我們我國操作的這個人手不足的問題那請問在這筆特別預算裡面有沒有把握來補足遇到目前遇到的這些問題那怎麼樣去運用這樣的經費\n219020\t237114\t各位委員報告我們第一批完成授訓考照已經在前兩天考完了所以人才的問題培訓我們都已經前瞻部署都已經超前部署考照前兩天就第一批考了那我相信應該成績會不錯\n239936\t268235\t所以請委員放心我們有各種不同類型的無人機根據它的耐風性還有根據它的續航力還有它的距離都有不一樣的部署最重要的是希望說空中的量能一定要完成好 謝謝主委那我們再來請教勞動部有一個推動植物在設計服務計畫這個其實是為了減緩身心障礙者 工作上的障礙\n269816\t276363\t然後勞動部的這個推動植物再設計服務計畫它可以補助相關的輔具那本席對於這項計畫的輔具費用的補助設計有點疑問\n279554\t307162\t我舉例來說以申請補助這個點字觸摸顯示器為例高階一點的這個點字觸摸顯示器超過差不多10萬塊那網路上查到有超過12萬那我們就以12萬元來看點字觸摸顯示器在身心障礙者輔具費用補助基準表裡面最高補助是7萬元那如果不是低收跟中低收那輔助費用\n307862\t327133\t最高補助是50%也就是3萬5千元那代表一般的民眾還要負擔8萬5千那依照勞動部喔這個推動植物再設計服務計畫第11點的規定補助額度應先扣除身心障礙者之社政補助最高額等於是你購買12萬還要扣掉這個社政補助最高7萬那勞動部只補助5萬那而且條文中我提到說再就其餘額據以評估\n336499\t355444\t也就是說扣掉社增的最高補助勞動部不一定會補滿因為時間的關係所以要請教說那像這樣子的話有沒有所謂改善的空間因為以日本為例的話日本是補助九成九成是政府負擔一成才是自行負擔所以如果按照這樣的話他三吃十那我們有改善的空間嗎\n356564\t375954\t謝謝委員,我們基本上應該這樣看,聲音障礙朋友就業是一個重點,我們認為在合理調整都是需要的,政府機關能夠協助的部分,一個重點就是輔具的提供,有關於相關輔具的一些規定或者資格條件,這部分我們會回過頭來,再來仔細看。\n377295\t386463\t再檢討看看啦 你看日本就補助九成也是輔具啊 OK好 謝謝次長 謝謝主席好 謝謝我們林委員接下來請李昆城委員發言\n","txt":"還有勞動部陳次長勞動部陳次長陳明仁陳次長另外一位好\n好 先請教經濟部長我想今天討論的是有關國家韌性我想一個有韌性的國家平時就讓各部會要發揮最佳的動能才不會在緊急的狀況的時候應變不來可是我們卻看到在野黨多次刪除政府對台電撥補的預算嚴重傷害國家韌性\n我想台電大家都知道他不是一般的私人公司他是公用事業喔那平時承擔穩定電價強化電網韌性保障民生的責任遇上天災還要趕上第一線去搶修那這些公共服務並不會從天而降那都需要公共投資喔所以待會要請經濟部長一併說明就如果長期在野黨持續阻擋撥補台電的預算那經濟部你評估國家會受到哪些的衝擊喔\n那另外我們看到政府對公共資源的這個挹注是舉世皆然德國預計明年起還要投入65億歐元相當於台幣2000\n80億元來補貼輸電的費用來透過降低電力輸送成本那渴望讓家庭的平均電價會下降4%那這項補貼的計畫將由德國的四大輸電業者共同執行而且這筆錢也會用來投資電網基礎的建設那我們反觀台灣部長我們又有什麼樣的計畫來支持電網韌性和民生用電\n就像剛剛委員有提到的我們本來是希望因為當初台電在無二戰爭開始的時候那時候成本大幅上升所以台電公司也吸收了這個差價累積起來有好幾千億我們希望透過政府可以撥補的狀況把他這個財政的狀況可以做改善\n那如果這個財政沒改善的話我們也希望說電網韌性的部分有些預算可以來加強那這一次本來提的這個韌性條例裡面我們事實上有編了200億但是後來也被刪掉了那如果在這樣情況之下就像委員講的我們就只能就既有的這個預算金額\n就是等於是很減緩的來做沒有辦法像快速的大規模來因應這些可能的災害比較大規模急速的來辦理變成這樣子所以我們也懇請大院如果可以讓台電的財務更健全的話那他在施作這個部分他的規模跟速度就可以加快跟加大好 謝謝部長那接下來本席想請教海委會就有關於海巡署有辦理這個\n海域徵收海域徵收及巡防這個籌借的這個計畫有關於無人機應用的部分我們看到這個無人機無人艇的應用可說是進來的世界潮流那不僅廣泛運用在軍事佈局當然也運用在我們海巡署的海岸巡防\n我想請教師說那無人機的應用有幾個問題喔譬如說飛行的續航力或者是環境的適應那最重要的是目前喔我們我國操作的這個人手不足的問題那請問在這筆特別預算裡面有沒有把握來補足遇到目前遇到的這些問題那怎麼樣去運用這樣的經費\n各位委員報告我們第一批完成授訓考照已經在前兩天考完了所以人才的問題培訓我們都已經前瞻部署都已經超前部署考照前兩天就第一批考了那我相信應該成績會不錯\n所以請委員放心我們有各種不同類型的無人機根據它的耐風性還有根據它的續航力還有它的距離都有不一樣的部署最重要的是希望說空中的量能一定要完成好 謝謝主委那我們再來請教勞動部有一個推動植物在設計服務計畫這個其實是為了減緩身心障礙者 工作上的障礙\n然後勞動部的這個推動植物再設計服務計畫它可以補助相關的輔具那本席對於這項計畫的輔具費用的補助設計有點疑問\n我舉例來說以申請補助這個點字觸摸顯示器為例高階一點的這個點字觸摸顯示器超過差不多10萬塊那網路上查到有超過12萬那我們就以12萬元來看點字觸摸顯示器在身心障礙者輔具費用補助基準表裡面最高補助是7萬元那如果不是低收跟中低收那輔助費用\n最高補助是50%也就是3萬5千元那代表一般的民眾還要負擔8萬5千那依照勞動部喔這個推動植物再設計服務計畫第11點的規定補助額度應先扣除身心障礙者之社政補助最高額等於是你購買12萬還要扣掉這個社政補助最高7萬那勞動部只補助5萬那而且條文中我提到說再就其餘額據以評估\n也就是說扣掉社增的最高補助勞動部不一定會補滿因為時間的關係所以要請教說那像這樣子的話有沒有所謂改善的空間因為以日本為例的話日本是補助九成九成是政府負擔一成才是自行負擔所以如果按照這樣的話他三吃十那我們有改善的空間嗎\n謝謝委員,我們基本上應該這樣看,聲音障礙朋友就業是一個重點,我們認為在合理調整都是需要的,政府機關能夠協助的部分,一個重點就是輔具的提供,有關於相關輔具的一些規定或者資格條件,這部分我們會回過頭來,再來仔細看。\n再檢討看看啦 你看日本就補助九成也是輔具啊 OK好 謝謝次長 謝謝主席好 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