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00:03:08,561\n那90天你在講什麼呢你328天沒有啦你們要自己要跟董事長講清楚啦就不是這麼回事啦什麼時候可以竣工什麼時候拿到使用執照才能夠開始使用但是我是覺得這個東西太離譜了其中我會請董事長稍微注意一下其中包括了\n\n9\n00:03:09,221 --> 00:03:38,097\n分項計畫施工圖材料設備審查總共九項計畫其中六項遭審退啊外人一聽我的天哪是不是說建管處桃園市政府在怎麼樣啊結果一查這全部都是你們透過建築師出審到你們資產運營部你們做一個複審你們自己都打槍自己的到底在做什麼我告訴你喔如果像我在這中壢的黃金地段\n\n10\n00:03:39,478 --> 00:03:51,748\n所有的市民都在看都在期待我希望董事長可以回去能夠把這個事情能夠追蹤進度好不好剛才我們同仁特別談到\n\n11\n00:03:52,182 --> 00:04:17,166\n他們在尤其材料設備的審查中有一些從大陸那邊過來的一些設備所以他們的確在審查過程中花了一些時間但是這些問題已經慢慢都克服了所以找到一家很差的廠商趕快把它完成是最重要的好吧你要創造那個歷史喔看看到底要多久好那個王董董事長請入座那個部長是\n\n12\n00:04:21,314 --> 00:04:44,480\n中方交友道謝謝你前一陣子也去看了解一下相關的進度因為我們過去兩年包括你還沒上任部長的時候我要謝謝王國才之前的部長大家一起一段一段來推動這樣一個工作那我聽到跟民眾很開心的就是我們現在目標還是不變114年年底能夠完工通車嘛我看到你的你有PO嘛好那\n\n13\n00:04:48,061 --> 00:05:00,887\n這個114年通車然後你說115年完工因為如果在建築的角度會很怪你沒有完工怎麼拿到石灶你怎麼竣工水電怎麼進來你怎麼可以使用可是在交通建設的話\n\n14\n00:05:02,128 --> 00:05:19,817\n交通建設的話我了解一下聽懂是主線道先通車嗎是不是是報告委員他其實114年底就完工了但是我們的計畫的完工日期是115年的6月所以我們等於是有提早提早完工我們就提早讓他通車\n\n15\n00:05:21,089 --> 00:05:35,574\n好現在我們現在了解的是主線道通車OK民眾覺得讓早一天通車地方交通方便但是我也建議你包括了我了解的115年靠右邊\n\n16\n00:05:37,074 --> 00:05:59,147\n當年通車之後你們還有後續收尾的工程包括周邊的5條比較小的路因為現在有很多因為要施工不管所搭的所建的所圍的後面才要陸續去拆第二個景觀植栽工程第三個全線排水溝等等的所謂的115年的後續工程但是我還是希望\n\n17\n00:05:59,787 --> 00:06:23,379\n局長這個部分細部你要去了解你不要說好不容易我們主線道通了結果兩個月之後又開始圍了為什麼抱歉我要做職災又圍三個月整整完全了解清楚在現在三個月如果有一些主線道我講主線道就第一個麻煩特別這個是局長的工作第一入口號誌\n\n18\n00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:45,428\n這個高架橋下來因為是靠內側到現在為止這紅綠燈還有左轉對不對因為他沒辦法左轉外面車流根本你最內側是高速公路的交流道他靠不過來所以這個東西要跟這個桃園市政府的燈號怎麼樣去改善那第二是要上去\n\n19\n00:06:46,827 --> 00:07:09,976\n這個下來的第二個部分車道如何分流如何分流第二個是右邊那個耳朵要怎麼樣去分流現在這個道路因為你們還是圍的所以我覺得已經研究好了拜託這很重要第三個就是青浦往市區這個順向因為我們只坐北上他要透過一個迴轉迴轉的部分那我就請教這件好\n\n20\n00:07:10,936 --> 00:07:27,368\n青浦來的地區要迴轉靠內側高架橋上去要不要停等紅綠燈還是直接有迴轉道可以上去我們有迴轉道就是說會一併通車這樣子迴轉道的部分迴轉道有沒有紅綠燈因為我們要迴轉是要先停到\n\n21\n00:07:32,939 --> 00:07:48,539\n會堵到後面的車還是直接可以順著過去目前規劃就是相關如果說紅綠燈的部分我們會跟桃園市政府再做相關的一個最後的確認因為回轉的時候基本上是直接回轉不過就是說你再了解一下\n\n22\n00:07:49,660 --> 00:08:12,230\n所有的配合措施希望一次做好不要高速公路通了大家擠在市區道路那這個桃園市政府應該配合的拜託盡快跟他們講他們也要一兩個月的時間來做處理那最後啊這個部長這個問題其實比較多但是就做個結尾了因為我們特別看到你接受專訪的時候其實我們整個聽過一遍啊聽了覺得是滿有特色滿有趣的\n\n23\n00:08:17,612 --> 00:08:44,717\n因為到最後怎麼解救國旅最後再談怎麼解救墾丁當然可能因為主持人問的方式但是這個部分包括你談的部分下次有空再跟你說第四項包括我們的局長陳局長也特別有說希望能夠多辦活動因為像高雄很多的演唱會確實吸引觀光所以你們要多辦活動那你們辦活動你是中華民國的交通部長\n\n24\n00:08:45,777 --> 00:09:00,449\n你的轄具是台灣包括外島本島都是吧還是只有南部的交通部長還是只有北部還是外島都是嗎所以都辦活動我跟你講這我們都很需要但桃園你辦了什麼活動還是署長你來講一下吧桃園辦了什麼活動\n\n25\n00:09:06,462 --> 00:09:25,365\n桃園在你多辦活動因為我們部長特別說在節目上講說我們靠南部大鵬灣那邊有19個大活動來帶動觀光不是大鵬灣是整個南部我知道南部的三個區塊加起來19個活動我也看到了那在今年度有總共幾個活動署長有知道嗎\n\n26\n00:09:27,788 --> 00:09:56,978\n是是委員委員指的是說桃園還是說全台灣全台灣全台灣的活動很多上次我們應該在委員的諮詢的資料裡面有提供我們現在目前觀光署自己能辦的活動裡面大概是以13個風景觀點區為主其他的各地方政府大概我們都是用採取補助跟合作好的那署長這個全國我們的全國的交通部長中華民國的在13個風景區為主的補助模式之下有哪些是13不管地帶\n\n27\n00:09:59,793 --> 00:10:29,236\n好啦我做個結論這個部長這個很嚴重每一年這樣的搞你們說的大型活動就有我們觀光署主導的活動我告訴你你自己去看都以國家風景區為主對不對所以哪個縣市沒有國家風景區算你倒霉啊你就不算台灣的啦再見啦我觀光署一毛你也沒有就是我主辦的沒有東西在你那我覺得有點莫名其妙你自己看嘛\n\n28\n00:10:31,001 --> 00:10:48,496\n今年現在在辦的活動70大的活動你們表列70大70個耶應該是遍地開花嘛大家都很開心結果我們鼓掌鼓了半天啊你看從北關東北延誤到南邊你說南部19個活動我們都很恭喜啊結果桃園\n\n29\n00:10:50,439 --> 00:11:05,974\n所有活動十三不管啊部長我給你最後一個建議不能這樣我們在省國家預算的時候你說補助我們地方辦觀光我們大家都以為有桃竹大概都非常少我們大家都以為一定\n\n30\n00:11:06,955 --> 00:11:29,567\n會有分到你們主導的一些活動結果到最後我看了今年沒有明年也沒有我希望明年今年過年的時候您也有爭取很多的那個燈會我知道其實我們觀光署也都有幫忙這個大型活動它不在這個歷年的燈會它明年就走了所以明年就是零我跟你講你們明年計畫已經出來了61個活動桃園是零今年也是零我覺得不應該\n\n31\n00:11:30,467 --> 00:11:57,724\n部長我要拜託你署長我要拜託你像這樣的三不管地帶它也是我們要推動觀光的特色的城市我要拜託它這筆錢也許不在風景管理區它必須呈現在署裡面或者交通部我要拜託從明年開始能不能研究一下我們來跟市政府這邊來討論看怎麼樣大家一起來合辦好這個部分是可以做的好這要拜託啦因為你們補助的錢都很少你等他的計畫我上次爭取一個50萬\n\n32\n00:11:59,225 --> 00:12:16,776\n我是說真的真的拜託你從明年開始不要告訴我風景區沒有編那我不怪他他管那轄區不在這那這種山不管地帶幾個城市我要拜託部長跟署長你要用其他預算來關注好不好我們跟地方政府來討論好謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4696\t12103\t好謝謝主席有請我們交通部陳部長請陳部長還有我們中華郵政王董事長好部長好前部長好\n23841\t51078\t這個第一件事直接切入主題不要兜圈子了中立郵局因為我們之前聽說我們淡江大橋可以講說因為過去不敢發包覺得很多的挑戰這麼艱難的工程結果不知道還有比淡江大橋現階段還要更艱難的工程叫做中華郵局蓋地下四層地上九層這一般的建商看了都在那邊笑各位那個王董事長我先問董事長\n52372\t81332\t那110年10月20號你是交通部部長正好是在你任內開的工本來上個禮拜我們要一起去剪彩了你是董事長因為預定在10月6號今年10月6號就完工了差不多4年的時間啦我覺得私人的以這樣的蓋2700平樓地板面積的我問了很多的民間的建商\n82773\t103922\t因為地下試程他說稍微久一點大概他說再怎麼慢兩年半三年也要完成那就請教一下本來你交通部長開的工你現在本來要完工典禮現在沒參加到現在為止應該進度是完成的現在進度只到41%那王董事長你說一下\n105713\t126679\t跟委員報告就是說壯麗油的確在新建過程中包括臨防有波及到臨防的這些包括補償這些補救的一些問題然後他在整個這個過程跟委員報告明年1月就可以完工來使用跟委員做一個確定報告明年1月嘛確定喔\n128920\t144359\t你們是宮崎延三百二十八天來你們是哪個承辦人出來講講好不好現在明年一月就可以完工你為什麼要給他延將近一年宮崎喔宮崎展延了三百二十八天喔為什麼這樣展延\n149258\t170332\t是跟委員報告 供期展延有包括英語的天數也包括那個施工廠商在那個送繩的過程之中我知道你展延 所以現在展延不是到明年1月嘛現在10月到明年1月就剩下90天嘛\n171112\t188561\t那90天你在講什麼呢你328天沒有啦你們要自己要跟董事長講清楚啦就不是這麼回事啦什麼時候可以竣工什麼時候拿到使用執照才能夠開始使用但是我是覺得這個東西太離譜了其中我會請董事長稍微注意一下其中包括了\n189221\t218097\t分項計畫施工圖材料設備審查總共九項計畫其中六項遭審退啊外人一聽我的天哪是不是說建管處桃園市政府在怎麼樣啊結果一查這全部都是你們透過建築師出審到你們資產運營部你們做一個複審你們自己都打槍自己的到底在做什麼我告訴你喔如果像我在這中壢的黃金地段\n219478\t231748\t所有的市民都在看都在期待我希望董事長可以回去能夠把這個事情能夠追蹤進度好不好剛才我們同仁特別談到\n232182\t257166\t他們在尤其材料設備的審查中有一些從大陸那邊過來的一些設備所以他們的確在審查過程中花了一些時間但是這些問題已經慢慢都克服了所以找到一家很差的廠商趕快把它完成是最重要的好吧你要創造那個歷史喔看看到底要多久好那個王董董事長請入座那個部長是\n261314\t284480\t中方交友道謝謝你前一陣子也去看了解一下相關的進度因為我們過去兩年包括你還沒上任部長的時候我要謝謝王國才之前的部長大家一起一段一段來推動這樣一個工作那我聽到跟民眾很開心的就是我們現在目標還是不變114年年底能夠完工通車嘛我看到你的你有PO嘛好那\n288061\t300887\t這個114年通車然後你說115年完工因為如果在建築的角度會很怪你沒有完工怎麼拿到石灶你怎麼竣工水電怎麼進來你怎麼可以使用可是在交通建設的話\n302128\t319817\t交通建設的話我了解一下聽懂是主線道先通車嗎 是不是是 報告委員他其實114年底就完工了但是我們的計畫的完工日期是115年的6月所以我們等於是有提早提早完工我們就提早讓他通車\n321089\t335574\t好現在我們現在了解的是主線道通車OK民眾覺得讓早一天通車地方交通方便但是我也建議你包括了我了解的115年靠右邊\n337074\t359147\t當年通車之後你們還有後續收尾的工程包括周邊的5條比較小的路因為現在有很多因為要施工不管所搭的所建的所圍的後面才要陸續去拆第二個景觀植栽工程第三個全線排水溝等等的所謂的115年的後續工程但是我還是希望\n359787\t383379\t局長 這個部分細部你要去了解你不要說好不容易我們主線道通了結果兩個月之後又開始圍了為什麼 抱歉我要做職災又圍三個月整 整 完全了解清楚在現在三個月如果有一些主線道我講主線道就第一個麻煩特別這個是局長的工作第一 入口號誌\n385020\t405428\t這個高架橋下來因為是靠內側到現在為止這紅綠燈還有左轉對不對因為他沒辦法左轉外面車流根本你最內側是高速公路的交流道他靠不過來所以這個東西要跟這個桃園市政府的燈號怎麼樣去改善那第二是要上去\n406827\t429976\t這個下來的第二個部分車道如何分流如何分流第二個是右邊那個耳朵要怎麼樣去分流現在這個道路因為你們還是圍的所以我覺得已經研究好了拜託這很重要第三個就是青浦往市區這個順向因為我們只坐北上他要透過一個迴轉迴轉的部分那我就請教這件好\n430936\t447368\t青浦來的地區要迴轉靠內側高架橋上去要不要停等紅綠燈還是直接有迴轉道可以上去我們有迴轉道就是說會一併通車這樣子迴轉道的部分迴轉道有沒有紅綠燈因為我們要迴轉是要先停到\n452939\t468539\t會堵到後面的車還是直接可以順著過去目前規劃就是相關如果說紅綠燈的部分我們會跟桃園市政府再做相關的一個最後的確認因為回轉的時候基本上是直接回轉不過就是說你再了解一下\n469660\t492230\t所有的配合措施希望一次做好不要高速公路通了大家擠在市區道路那這個桃園市政府應該配合的 拜託盡快跟他們講他們也要一兩個月的時間來做處理那最後啊 這個部長這個問題其實比較多但是就做個結尾了因為我們特別看到你接受專訪的時候其實我們整個聽過一遍啊聽了覺得是滿有特色 滿有趣的\n497612\t524717\t因為到最後怎麼解救國旅最後再談怎麼解救墾丁當然可能因為主持人問的方式但是這個部分包括你談的部分下次有空再跟你說第四項包括我們的局長陳局長也特別有說希望能夠多辦活動因為像高雄很多的演唱會確實吸引觀光所以你們要多辦活動那你們辦活動你是中華民國的交通部長\n525777\t540449\t你的轄具是台灣包括外島本島都是吧還是只有南部的交通部長還是只有北部還是外島都是嗎所以都辦活動我跟你講這我們都很需要但桃園你辦了什麼活動還是署長你來講一下吧桃園辦了什麼活動\n546462\t565365\t桃園在你多辦活動因為我們部長特別說在節目上講說我們靠南部大鵬灣那邊有19個大活動來帶動觀光不是大鵬灣是整個南部我知道南部的三個區塊加起來19個活動我也看到了那在今年度有總共幾個活動署長有知道嗎\n567788\t596978\t是是委員委員指的是說桃園還是說全台灣全台灣全台灣的活動很多上次我們應該在委員的諮詢的資料裡面有提供我們現在目前觀光署自己能辦的活動裡面大概是以13個風景觀點區為主其他的各地方政府大概我們都是用採取補助跟合作好的那署長這個全國我們的全國的交通部長中華民國的在13個風景區為主的補助模式之下有哪些是13不管地帶\n599793\t629236\t好啦 我做個結論這個部長這個很嚴重每一年這樣的搞你們說的大型活動就有我們觀光署主導的活動我告訴你 你自己去看都以國家風景區為主 對不對所以哪個縣市沒有國家風景區算你倒霉啊你就不算台灣的啦再見啦我觀光署一毛你也沒有就是我主辦的沒有東西在你那我覺得有點莫名其妙 你自己看嘛\n631001\t648496\t今年現在在辦的活動 70大的活動你們表列 70大 70個耶應該是遍地開花嘛 大家都很開心結果我們鼓掌鼓了半天啊你看 從北關東北延誤到南邊 你說南部19個活動 我們都很恭喜啊結果 桃園\n650439\t665974\t所有活動 十三不管啊部長 我給你最後一個建議不能這樣我們在省國家預算的時候你說補助我們地方辦觀光我們大家都以為有桃竹大概都非常少我們大家都以為一定\n666955\t689567\t會有分到你們主導的一些活動結果到最後我看了今年沒有明年也沒有我希望明年今年過年的時候您也有爭取很多的那個燈會我知道其實我們觀光署也都有幫忙這個大型活動它不在這個歷年的燈會它明年就走了所以明年就是零我跟你講你們明年計畫已經出來了61個活動桃園是零今年也是零我覺得不應該\n690467\t717724\t部長我要拜託你 署長我要拜託你像這樣的三不管地帶它也是我們要推動觀光的特色的城市我要拜託它這筆錢也許不在風景管理區它必須呈現在署裡面或者交通部我要拜託從明年開始能不能研究一下我們來跟市政府這邊來討論看怎麼樣大家一起來合辦好 這個部分是可以做的好 這要拜託啦因為你們補助的錢都很少你等他的計畫我上次爭取一個50萬\n719225\t736776\t我是說真的真的拜託你從明年開始不要告訴我風景區沒有編那我不怪他他管那轄區不在這那這種山不管地帶幾個城市我要拜託部長跟署長你要用其他預算來關注好不好我們跟地方政府來討論好 謝謝主席\n","txt":"好謝謝主席有請我們交通部陳部長請陳部長還有我們中華郵政王董事長好部長好前部長好\n這個第一件事直接切入主題不要兜圈子了中立郵局因為我們之前聽說我們淡江大橋可以講說因為過去不敢發包覺得很多的挑戰這麼艱難的工程結果不知道還有比淡江大橋現階段還要更艱難的工程叫做中華郵局蓋地下四層地上九層這一般的建商看了都在那邊笑各位那個王董事長我先問董事長\n那110年10月20號你是交通部部長正好是在你任內開的工本來上個禮拜我們要一起去剪彩了你是董事長因為預定在10月6號今年10月6號就完工了差不多4年的時間啦我覺得私人的以這樣的蓋2700平樓地板面積的我問了很多的民間的建商\n因為地下試程他說稍微久一點大概他說再怎麼慢兩年半三年也要完成那就請教一下本來你交通部長開的工你現在本來要完工典禮現在沒參加到現在為止應該進度是完成的現在進度只到41%那王董事長你說一下\n跟委員報告就是說壯麗油的確在新建過程中包括臨防有波及到臨防的這些包括補償這些補救的一些問題然後他在整個這個過程跟委員報告明年1月就可以完工來使用跟委員做一個確定報告明年1月嘛確定喔\n你們是宮崎延三百二十八天來你們是哪個承辦人出來講講好不好現在明年一月就可以完工你為什麼要給他延將近一年宮崎喔宮崎展延了三百二十八天喔為什麼這樣展延\n是跟委員報告 供期展延有包括英語的天數也包括那個施工廠商在那個送繩的過程之中我知道你展延 所以現在展延不是到明年1月嘛現在10月到明年1月就剩下90天嘛\n那90天你在講什麼呢你328天沒有啦你們要自己要跟董事長講清楚啦就不是這麼回事啦什麼時候可以竣工什麼時候拿到使用執照才能夠開始使用但是我是覺得這個東西太離譜了其中我會請董事長稍微注意一下其中包括了\n分項計畫施工圖材料設備審查總共九項計畫其中六項遭審退啊外人一聽我的天哪是不是說建管處桃園市政府在怎麼樣啊結果一查這全部都是你們透過建築師出審到你們資產運營部你們做一個複審你們自己都打槍自己的到底在做什麼我告訴你喔如果像我在這中壢的黃金地段\n所有的市民都在看都在期待我希望董事長可以回去能夠把這個事情能夠追蹤進度好不好剛才我們同仁特別談到\n他們在尤其材料設備的審查中有一些從大陸那邊過來的一些設備所以他們的確在審查過程中花了一些時間但是這些問題已經慢慢都克服了所以找到一家很差的廠商趕快把它完成是最重要的好吧你要創造那個歷史喔看看到底要多久好那個王董董事長請入座那個部長是\n中方交友道謝謝你前一陣子也去看了解一下相關的進度因為我們過去兩年包括你還沒上任部長的時候我要謝謝王國才之前的部長大家一起一段一段來推動這樣一個工作那我聽到跟民眾很開心的就是我們現在目標還是不變114年年底能夠完工通車嘛我看到你的你有PO嘛好那\n這個114年通車然後你說115年完工因為如果在建築的角度會很怪你沒有完工怎麼拿到石灶你怎麼竣工水電怎麼進來你怎麼可以使用可是在交通建設的話\n交通建設的話我了解一下聽懂是主線道先通車嗎 是不是是 報告委員他其實114年底就完工了但是我們的計畫的完工日期是115年的6月所以我們等於是有提早提早完工我們就提早讓他通車\n好現在我們現在了解的是主線道通車OK民眾覺得讓早一天通車地方交通方便但是我也建議你包括了我了解的115年靠右邊\n當年通車之後你們還有後續收尾的工程包括周邊的5條比較小的路因為現在有很多因為要施工不管所搭的所建的所圍的後面才要陸續去拆第二個景觀植栽工程第三個全線排水溝等等的所謂的115年的後續工程但是我還是希望\n局長 這個部分細部你要去了解你不要說好不容易我們主線道通了結果兩個月之後又開始圍了為什麼 抱歉我要做職災又圍三個月整 整 完全了解清楚在現在三個月如果有一些主線道我講主線道就第一個麻煩特別這個是局長的工作第一 入口號誌\n這個高架橋下來因為是靠內側到現在為止這紅綠燈還有左轉對不對因為他沒辦法左轉外面車流根本你最內側是高速公路的交流道他靠不過來所以這個東西要跟這個桃園市政府的燈號怎麼樣去改善那第二是要上去\n這個下來的第二個部分車道如何分流如何分流第二個是右邊那個耳朵要怎麼樣去分流現在這個道路因為你們還是圍的所以我覺得已經研究好了拜託這很重要第三個就是青浦往市區這個順向因為我們只坐北上他要透過一個迴轉迴轉的部分那我就請教這件好\n青浦來的地區要迴轉靠內側高架橋上去要不要停等紅綠燈還是直接有迴轉道可以上去我們有迴轉道就是說會一併通車這樣子迴轉道的部分迴轉道有沒有紅綠燈因為我們要迴轉是要先停到\n會堵到後面的車還是直接可以順著過去目前規劃就是相關如果說紅綠燈的部分我們會跟桃園市政府再做相關的一個最後的確認因為回轉的時候基本上是直接回轉不過就是說你再了解一下\n所有的配合措施希望一次做好不要高速公路通了大家擠在市區道路那這個桃園市政府應該配合的 拜託盡快跟他們講他們也要一兩個月的時間來做處理那最後啊 這個部長這個問題其實比較多但是就做個結尾了因為我們特別看到你接受專訪的時候其實我們整個聽過一遍啊聽了覺得是滿有特色 滿有趣的\n因為到最後怎麼解救國旅最後再談怎麼解救墾丁當然可能因為主持人問的方式但是這個部分包括你談的部分下次有空再跟你說第四項包括我們的局長陳局長也特別有說希望能夠多辦活動因為像高雄很多的演唱會確實吸引觀光所以你們要多辦活動那你們辦活動你是中華民國的交通部長\n你的轄具是台灣包括外島本島都是吧還是只有南部的交通部長還是只有北部還是外島都是嗎所以都辦活動我跟你講這我們都很需要但桃園你辦了什麼活動還是署長你來講一下吧桃園辦了什麼活動\n桃園在你多辦活動因為我們部長特別說在節目上講說我們靠南部大鵬灣那邊有19個大活動來帶動觀光不是大鵬灣是整個南部我知道南部的三個區塊加起來19個活動我也看到了那在今年度有總共幾個活動署長有知道嗎\n是是委員委員指的是說桃園還是說全台灣全台灣全台灣的活動很多上次我們應該在委員的諮詢的資料裡面有提供我們現在目前觀光署自己能辦的活動裡面大概是以13個風景觀點區為主其他的各地方政府大概我們都是用採取補助跟合作好的那署長這個全國我們的全國的交通部長中華民國的在13個風景區為主的補助模式之下有哪些是13不管地帶\n好啦 我做個結論這個部長這個很嚴重每一年這樣的搞你們說的大型活動就有我們觀光署主導的活動我告訴你 你自己去看都以國家風景區為主 對不對所以哪個縣市沒有國家風景區算你倒霉啊你就不算台灣的啦再見啦我觀光署一毛你也沒有就是我主辦的沒有東西在你那我覺得有點莫名其妙 你自己看嘛\n今年現在在辦的活動 70大的活動你們表列 70大 70個耶應該是遍地開花嘛 大家都很開心結果我們鼓掌鼓了半天啊你看 從北關東北延誤到南邊 你說南部19個活動 我們都很恭喜啊結果 桃園\n所有活動 十三不管啊部長 我給你最後一個建議不能這樣我們在省國家預算的時候你說補助我們地方辦觀光我們大家都以為有桃竹大概都非常少我們大家都以為一定\n會有分到你們主導的一些活動結果到最後我看了今年沒有明年也沒有我希望明年今年過年的時候您也有爭取很多的那個燈會我知道其實我們觀光署也都有幫忙這個大型活動它不在這個歷年的燈會它明年就走了所以明年就是零我跟你講你們明年計畫已經出來了61個活動桃園是零今年也是零我覺得不應該\n部長我要拜託你 署長我要拜託你像這樣的三不管地帶它也是我們要推動觀光的特色的城市我要拜託它這筆錢也許不在風景管理區它必須呈現在署裡面或者交通部我要拜託從明年開始能不能研究一下我們來跟市政府這邊來討論看怎麼樣大家一起來合辦好 這個部分是可以做的好 這要拜託啦因為你們補助的錢都很少你等他的計畫我上次爭取一個50萬\n我是說真的真的拜託你從明年開始不要告訴我風景區沒有編那我不怪他他管那轄區不在這那這種山不管地帶幾個城市我要拜託部長跟署長你要用其他預算來關注好不好我們跟地方政府來討論好 謝謝主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.696 --> 00:12.103\n好謝謝主席有請我們交通部陳部長請陳部長還有我們中華郵政王董事長好部長好前部長好\n\n00:23.841 --> 00:51.078\n這個第一件事直接切入主題不要兜圈子了中立郵局因為我們之前聽說我們淡江大橋可以講說因為過去不敢發包覺得很多的挑戰這麼艱難的工程結果不知道還有比淡江大橋現階段還要更艱難的工程叫做中華郵局蓋地下四層地上九層這一般的建商看了都在那邊笑各位那個王董事長我先問董事長\n\n00:52.372 --> 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07:09.976\n這個下來的第二個部分車道如何分流如何分流第二個是右邊那個耳朵要怎麼樣去分流現在這個道路因為你們還是圍的所以我覺得已經研究好了拜託這很重要第三個就是青浦往市區這個順向因為我們只坐北上他要透過一個迴轉迴轉的部分那我就請教這件好\n\n07:10.936 --> 07:27.368\n青浦來的地區要迴轉靠內側高架橋上去要不要停等紅綠燈還是直接有迴轉道可以上去我們有迴轉道就是說會一併通車這樣子迴轉道的部分迴轉道有沒有紅綠燈因為我們要迴轉是要先停到\n\n07:32.939 --> 07:48.539\n會堵到後面的車還是直接可以順著過去目前規劃就是相關如果說紅綠燈的部分我們會跟桃園市政府再做相關的一個最後的確認因為回轉的時候基本上是直接回轉不過就是說你再了解一下\n\n07:49.660 --> 08:12.230\n所有的配合措施希望一次做好不要高速公路通了大家擠在市區道路那這個桃園市政府應該配合的拜託盡快跟他們講他們也要一兩個月的時間來做處理那最後啊這個部長這個問題其實比較多但是就做個結尾了因為我們特別看到你接受專訪的時候其實我們整個聽過一遍啊聽了覺得是滿有特色滿有趣的\n\n08:17.612 --> 08:44.717\n因為到最後怎麼解救國旅最後再談怎麼解救墾丁當然可能因為主持人問的方式但是這個部分包括你談的部分下次有空再跟你說第四項包括我們的局長陳局長也特別有說希望能夠多辦活動因為像高雄很多的演唱會確實吸引觀光所以你們要多辦活動那你們辦活動你是中華民國的交通部長\n\n08:45.777 --> 09:00.449\n你的轄具是台灣包括外島本島都是吧還是只有南部的交通部長還是只有北部還是外島都是嗎所以都辦活動我跟你講這我們都很需要但桃園你辦了什麼活動還是署長你來講一下吧桃園辦了什麼活動\n\n09:06.462 --> 09:25.365\n桃園在你多辦活動因為我們部長特別說在節目上講說我們靠南部大鵬灣那邊有19個大活動來帶動觀光不是大鵬灣是整個南部我知道南部的三個區塊加起來19個活動我也看到了那在今年度有總共幾個活動署長有知道嗎\n\n09:27.788 --> 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